The Natchez Democrat

security cams should be around all the project apartments..a lot of drug doings going on there constantly…

Typical “hood”winks of Natchez children. Drive around town at 3:00 in morning and count the number of teenagers on the streets in the neighbor”hoods”. After you have done this, then think about the Natchez crime rate and how it might be brought down.

security cams are a good idea,but why waste money when they eventualy gonna be destroyed.How many projects really have these cams?None.

Have a meeting, and designate one family member per night to watch out. Then rotate them.. On those nights when you cannot sleep take a look outside and just observe what is going on in your neighborhood… Get these people now before they TORCH a house or business…. THESE ARE CALLED FIREBUGS…

It sounds to me like some parents need to start learning what a belt is for and start keeping better watch on their children. Just because they are teenagers does mean they are grown or capable of making their own decisions. If it is adults then they need to be held accountable and anytime they live in government funded housing and are caught with drugs and or doing crimes they should evict them immediately and not allowed to move back. Just because someone is poor does not give mean they have to live filthy or behave poorly and become a problem for the rest of the world to deal with.  From the sounds of it we not only  need new people in local government and school boards but also the police department seems to need an over haul. I realize that crime tends to go up when the economy is bad but, this has been an ongoing problem for some time now and it  is happening a whole lot more than it should for a town this size.

Aaron Wesley to the rescue, he seems as though he was giving the arsonist an attaboy on how to start a fire. I’m sure any thug knows from experience how to destroy something, or just maybe he Googled it. Wesley should’ve said Arsonist beware WE WILL CaTCH YOU, and YOUR TAILS GOIN TO JAIL.

Southernlady, with due respect to you. it is not only government funded housing that contributes to the crime wave in Natchez, I’m sorry to say, you can find “slum thugs” any and everywhere in this age and times. The ’GOVERNMENT’ sat back and allowed trafficking of illegal drugs ( in the 60s) to take complete control of our nation. The war on drugs has become as rampart as the terrorist war, simply because it is more of a terrroist act than we have ever known exisited in our own nation. Illegal drugs have destroyed the wonderful great America we once loved so much. The only way to stop it, is STOP THE DRUG THUGS. But………. 

I find humor in the fact that you people have chosen to start blaming a certain type of person (yes your “hood” comments don’t go unnoticed) instead of looking at your own children first. Take the blinders off and realize that your children are as bad as anyone else’s. You people disgust me. They could’ve easily set fire to these cars as well. 

I agree 200 percent

destinynatchez- I could not agree more it is not only in government assisted housing it can be in the best of neighborhoods as well as the worst and anything in between. I was commenting on the story at hand but you are right it can and is everywhere. I also agree that our government has sat back on their tails and allowed this drug problem to become the enormous issue it has today and it does contribute to our many problems we face both physically and financially. Families need to keep better track of their children and the company they keep, there needs to be stricter guidelines and punishment issued for those who are caught using/ trafficking the stuff and people need to gain self respect and self control over their own lives. Just because someone is poor  or  wealthy does not give them the right to live in filth, anyone can afford soap and water and take some pride in their home, nor does it give them the right to assume because  they are poor or wealthy it is OK for them to take illegal drugs and abuse alcohol. Somehow along the way our society has lost their self respect and morals. Today everyone is worried about keeping up with their neighbors and friends in the newest and latest gadgets they nearly break themselves financially to do so and it is just plain stupid. It is going to take some drastic measures to stop this stuff but it can be done simply by closing all borders, no one comes in, no one goes out except those who are here illegally. Have a shoot to kill order for anyone seen crossing the border illegally. I know this sounds bad and is barbaric to some extent but, this is basically what it has come down to. Everything else that has been tried has not worked long term. This is a desperate situation that calls for some drastic measures that takes out the guess work and gray areas out of the consequences should they break our laws.  I do not think our lives as we know it should be endangered by all this chaos immigrants want to impose on our country. Anyone caught with drugs or transporting into this country for resale will be shot on sight. I know this again sounds barbaric but let’s face facts unless we take some drastic steps this is going to continue to be a problem that plagues our society. One thing to keep in mind, if we went to any other country and committed a crime of this magnitude or caused their countries as much grief as they have ours do you honestly think they would not shoot us or worse? I know they would ! why not return the favor and stop making America out to be the scape goat of the world.

ehh…. Hate to tell you, but statistics speak for themselves.

Let’s not forget the gang of bored, rich white boys who were going around smashing car windows a couple of years ago. Crime can come from any neighborhood.

If you were talking about my comments jalwenz I will stand by them. When my children (4 of them) were in school they had to be in the house by 8:00 pm on school nights unless at a school function. In the summer, they had to be in by 10:00 pm. I see no reason for school aged children to be out later than that unless they are at a function and I was also present. When they graduated, they either went to college or in the Military and they sure didn’t hang around town getting into trouble. All 4 of my children are married and raising there children the same way.

KUDOS!!! I was raised by pretty much the same curfews and restrictions and I hope to do the same when I have children of my own.

Sure, you can’t CONTROL every little thing your kids do– in front of you OR behind your back– but you CAN help guide them in the right way (for some, the word ‘guide’ is more physically enforced than IMPLIED!).

Sure, some kids that come from wonderfully structured homes do leave the path of conformity, but that’s just called a BELL CURVE my friends!! There are also children that fall on the extreme opposite at times.

depends on who is taking the polls

do you really know what they were doing? we all want to believe our children are angels but sadly that is not always the case no matter what “hood” they may be from

 Glad you can find humor in this since it is happening in your “hood”. I remember when I had relatives and friends living in River Oaks. Then what crowd TOOK it over? I remember when you could go around the circle in Mt. Carmel without a basketball goal post sitting in the middle of the street and the little thugs there giving threatening looks before they finally move it to let you pass. That goes for all of Morgantown and Roselawn. I remember when a young man had the decency to not show off red silk underwear with their jeans down around their knees. What is this for? To show they are gay and are available for a rear end collision. I remember when you could shop without hearing teens yelling the “B” word and “MF” across the store. I remember when parents had a little pride and raised their kids with same. The teens are lucky now to have one parent and I think that maybe 10% of those care. Now the teens run around breeding like some kind of animals. Animals know the farmers will take care of them. Well I am not a farmer and I am tired of taking care of such animals so PUT that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

I believe attaboy was saying above if his children were in the house by established curfew hours, they were not outside at early morning hours, thus anything they were getting into only affected his family and surroundings, not those of others, regardless of where the child originates.

This is extremely deviant behavior , aka sociopath/psychopath in nature . Such individuals definitely don’t need to be roaming the streets of no town . They need to be found and permanently removed from normal population . When are people going to realise that everyone who looks like humans are not . There are some real animals out there perpetrating as humans .

Statistics are not “polls”.

You keep telling yourself that.  You can lie to yourself all you want.  When you begin lying to others, don’t be surprised when you are called on it.

Of course we disgust you.  You are a backwards-thinking individual.  Instead of being disgusted at the sociopaths who set these fires, be sure and be “disgusted” at people who point out the problems that folks like you insist on ignoring as the situation continues to get worse.  What is disgusting is that you and yours can’t even face the truth about members of your own “community”.  You’d rather throw out lies and BS than own up to reality.

Some of us grew up when Morgantown and Roselawn were quiet and safe middle class neighborhoods and the local schools were successful.  What changed?  You know good and damn well what changed and your pretending that is not why those places are in such bad shape makes you a liar.

Can we agree if the racism slant is taken out of this argument, that blacks can have a more significant influence in solving this issue in their own communities with a grass roots approach, rather than “outsiders” (other than law enforcement) can have (law enforcement has impact through arrest)?  Look at the crime reports daily, compare the percentages of arrests to the percentage of racial mix in Adams County, and it is alarming to see the results.  The comments seem purely racially oriented, however, the statistics point to where the major source of the problem lies.  As Crak noted, these crime statistics are not a poll, they are fact.  While I disagree with the ND publishing this information as arrests, the subject has not been proven guilty even though “indicted” by the publication of the fact of their arrest in the ND.  On the topic, the names are often published multiple times for the same arrest as the case moves from one stage of the legal process to another, thus compounding the “guilt”.

Now, if the public as a whole got over the “racist” thoughts and address the problem WHEREVER it lies, the community benefits and I think we would have a lot of improvement in racial harmony in this area, and probably see major improvement in our schools to further the economic opportunities for Adams.  Take away the negative things being talked about and there is no talk to offend anyone.

You are right but the thought behind this stands sometimes statistics reflect biased data

Change a racist mindset change the world

ND crime reports are not biased, read my reply to your post below.  They report all arrests, you can calculate the percentages since you are degreed in economics. ”Sometimes” is a word used to dodge the “ball”.  Sometimes, you are going to be right, statistically speaking.

Correction, they report all except people who slap waitresses at La Fiesta.

Perhaps a law in the city re:curfew on school nights for anyone under 18, color irrelevant………….Fine the parents, now that’s a start! Suggesting the city due to tighter quarters leading to grouping of the offenders. County roaming in the city limits subject to the same rules as city residents. Cuts down on the traffic so the perps over 18 are more visible. “Curfew” means inside your house, not roaming in the vicinity.

Further thought, those youngsters working on their PHD in criminal activity will have a much more difficult time in future years getting and retaining a real job, thus sentencing themselves to lives below their capability forever.  The record doesn’t disappear when they decide to go straight.  All parents should take this to heart and decide if they want to influence their child’s life positively to improve their chance at success.  Many of those go on to continue their criminal activity as a result of the lesser chance they have in life.  Future incarceration then leads to more “single” parent families thus contributing to the downward spiral we seem to be in.  Getting an educational PHD is a better alternative.

For those of you who don’t seem to get the motivation for torching, the word COWARD is really the word that needs to be thrown around.  Car torching is a “hands off the intended victim” approach to getting even with a person in a domestic dispute. Some of you want to say children this and teens that, but it is really a cowardly act carried out by simple minded young adults.   The details may be unclear to ordinary citizens but believe me, the victim usually knows exactly who did it and why…….or it could just be insurance fraud.

What racist mindset?  Black people are doing this to each other.  The people calling out for it to stop and people be held to account are white people and it seems that makes them racist in some people’s minds somehow.  No, instead of admonishing these acts and the very disproportionally high crime rate within the black community, some folks would rather lash out at white people with blatant falsehoods in some lame and dishonest attempt at moral equivalence.

This is about addressing real problems, not trying to create some fantasy world where all the races have matching crime rates.  They don’t.  Not even close.  That is reality.  I suggest we deal with it in a constructive manner.  I suggest reading Walter Williams.  He has good ideas.

If I’m reading all this properly, most are saying proper upbringing in the early years conditions young adults to know the difference between right and wrong. Also, limiting exposure to improper elements by curfews, etc. help eliminate/reduce the problems down the road when they become young adults and get into domestic disputes since hopefully they are more responsible to society and understand the consequences.  You are right in the current scheme of things.

Imagine that!! By golly, that might just work..

This so called war against drugs has been going on for well over 20 years now and is a joke . Our government knows where every drug manufacturing facility and the king pins who own them lives in Mexico . They are fighting this war on drugs by rules formulated by politicians in Washington who knows absolutely nothing about how real wars are fought . And then you have crazy California liberals who wants to give the country away to Mexican criminals by giving them safe havens in that state , Nancy Pelosi types . Remove the silly thinking of most crooked politicians and put the extermination of drugs in the hands of real men , the military and this war on drugs will be over in less than a week . The U.S. must declare absolute war on Mexican drug lords by flash bombing the h*ll out of their drug facilities and sending in snipers to finish off the drug lords .  Our military is the most technically advanced on the face of the planet . But Washington is working on defunding the military or making drastic operating cuts .  Surely they can eliminate drugs coming into our country via the borders . Crooked politicians in Washington is keeping this from happening . It’s a money thing to them . It keeps the courts full and lawyers with jobs . Such hypocrisy in Washington and politicians in general . They are the ones selling us out !!!

You are trying to put the actions of individuals on an entire race and this is called stereotyping

No, I am talking about the comments section of this website and the poster I responded to in particular.  Also, I  used the word “some” three times in reference to the posters here, not “all”.  See, all you seem interested in is painting people as racists.  Big surprise.  It so often done that it has become a comedic mechanism, a joke with no sting anymore.  The lid is off that can.  America can see who the racists are now.

Do you really want me to start posting links to the “Stop Snitchin’” stuff where black folks pressure each other not to report crimes to the police?  You don’t think that all to common mentality is a major contributor to the crime among black people?  Do you really want me to post links to the “flash mobs” of violent black youth attacking white people that have been popping up this summer?  The mainstream, media won’t cover it for some reason.  Imagine, though, how it would lead the news if whites were doing it.  Think Duke LaCrosse.  And those guys didn’t even do anything.

Calling white people who are past fed up with this rampant criminality in the black community racist isn’t going to solve the problem.  Only black people taking action can solve it.  First you all have to actually admit the reality of the situation, that there is a problem.  I’ve YET to see anyone here do that, much less propose any steps to address the issue.  Some of us do.  We get called names for actually bothering to give a damn.

Youre still stereotyping i and my family do not follow this no snitching code and i know of many other blacks who dont please print your comments on this post and ask a random person their facial expression will give you your answer

I meant to say ask their opinion

You know what is sad, bronzebutterfly?  You seem to be so obsessed with your own skin color that you cannot even separate yourself from the collective for the sake of conversation.  You know good and well that “No Snitchin’” campaign exists.  I have no doubt you’ve seen people wearing the shirts in person.  I have.  Yet, when I bring it up, this real thing, you act like I’m stereotyping because YOU don’t do it.  YOU are not every black person.  Just because YOU don’t commit crimes does not mean there isn’t a very real crime problem in Black America.  However, YOU are part of the problem because, as I said earlier, YOU won’t even admit there is a problem. 

Get over being owned by racial identity and reflexively feeling like you have to defend the tribe against reality to the point of dishonesty.  That IS racism at it’s very heart.  I cannot believe you cannot see this.  I’m white.  It matters no more to me than my hair color.  It’s just a feature, yet to many black people race is the end-all be-all of existence.  They write books about it, make movies about it, opine endlessly about it, teach classes on it, hell, have whole departments at liberal arts colleges devoted to what?  Being black.  Dear lord, and you call white folks racists.  Even in the heyday of segregation, white people didn’t do all that.  You need to think about that.

You still cant stop stereotyping you watch too much television it is sad YOU are bothered by people celebrating their culture and heritage this is smallminded of you careful your ignorance is showing

Ps this journey from racism will be hard for you but very much worth it be blessed

You’re COMPLETELY missing the point. What if i, a white female, want to celebrate my heritage? Can I do that publicly? NO. I’ll be called a racist. Is that right? NO.

WE SHALL OVERCOME!!!

I don’t have time to watch TV, I’m too busy arguing with you on the ND website.  :)

You know as well as I we aren’t talking about celebrating one’s culture.  We are talking about a constant obsession with one’s race.  Are you inferring that black people have a homogenous culture?  That would be kind of like stereotyping, no?

My problem is not that I’m a racist, it is that I’m sensitive of racism from others.

I respect you bb but I think you are like the proverbial fish who does not know he is wet.  I think that many black people today have been raised in in an environment where black racism is so prevalent, so ingrained in the culture that they don’t even notice it.  You are the fish and the culture is the water.