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Should Natchez police chief’s salary be raised?

Published 12:03am Sunday, January 29, 2012

Editor’s note: In the original version of this story, Mayor Jake Middleton incorrectly gave the salary range for the information technology director being hired by the city. Middleton said Monday the correct salary range is $45,000 to $55,000.

NATCHEZ — When the 10-year veteran Natchez Police chief walked away from his office this fall, his salary was lower than that of many other chiefs in the state, including those serving smaller communities.

And as the Natchez Board of Aldermen prepares to hire a new chief in the coming month, the mayor and most aldermen say increasing the chief’s salary may simply not be an option.

When former Chief Mike Mullins was asked to retire early in November, he was making $52,300 — the same rate of pay he had made since 2002.

That figure put the Natchez Police Department’s chief salary below nearly every other similarly sized town in Mississippi and even $12,700 lower than the chief’s salary in much smaller Vidalia.

The Natchez Police Department serves approximately 15,700 residents. The department has 63 full-time employees, 44 of which are police officers.

The next closest city in population and department size is Grenada, with an approximate population of 13,000 and 44 officers. Grenada pays its chief $56,000 annually.

Vidalia — which serves only 4,400 and has 24 officers — pays its chief $65,000.

Larger Laurel — population 18,500 — pays its chief $61,000.

McComb — population 12,700 — pays Police Chief Gregory Martin $60,000, a number that he said was lowered from $73,000 because of budget cuts in 2008 when the previous chief retired.

Brookhaven — population 12,500 — pays its chief $62,500.

Room for a raise?

Natchez leaders admit that it’s important to pay the chief — and officers — a good salary, and many admit that the Natchez rate of pay may be low, but few said they were ready to vote for a raise.

Aldermen — who will set the salary — say the dollar amount of the new police chief’s salary will depend on several factors, including the past experience of the new chief and the city’s finances.

Aldermen Ernest “Tony” Fields and Dan Dillard said it would be wise to compare the city’s salary to other similar-sized cities, but also said some of those cities salaries seemed high.

Dillard pointed out that the Natchez chief’s salary wasn’t far behind Grenada, but pointed to the similarities in the rates of pay in larger Laurel — $61,000 — and smaller McComb — $60,000 as an example that perhaps some chiefs are overpaid.

Regardless of what other cities are doing, Alderman James “Rickey” Gray said he doesn’t see much wiggle room for Natchez.

“We’re having to borrow money to make payroll now, so even though they do deserve a raise, I just can’t see it happening now,” he said.

  • Anonymous

    Law enforcement is not nearly paid for the valor and effort that they exhibit every day.  You want a hero, then walk a mile(or even 100 yards) in their shoes.  These guys and gals deal with situations, insults, and danger that you can not imagine and tv diminishes!  They do a primarily thankless job and on the whole stand tall.  I totally admire the guys and gals that risk their lives on the front lines!

  • Anonymous

    The ones in Natchez do not deserve a raise since they can not curtail the crime… just look at the paper every morning someone got robbed shot or home invaded… Natchez is not that big a place so until they step up they do not deserve a raise and from the looks of the financial situation Natchez can’t afford to give them one either… it sounds to me like the police need to get their act together and the city needs to learn how to balance a budget and make some much needed changes. All this police chief has done since in office is ask for money for one thing or the other. Kind of makes one wonder just what he truly needs all this money for?

  • Anonymous

    Our alderman want to pay 55 – 65 to a IT person, only 52 – 55 for police chief. They would rather make sure their computers work good, they have a go-to person when they dont know how to work a program and they have internet service in their meetings rather than pay the guy that protects their life and possesions and the people of Natchez life and possessions. Only in Natchez !!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Supply and demand should set the stage for these situations, including the new Supt. of schools.  In this case, the supply was 10 or so applicants who would be willing to accept the current salary, that list has been pared down to 3 who are willing to accept the current salary, 1 of which says he doesn’t care about the salary.  Why is this being discussed?  Again, Natchez should not be compared to Vidalia since they have millions in hydroelectric income that does not exist on the east side of the river.

    I would prefer that the patrolmen (where there is a high turnover rate) be given some type of raise to encourage their tenure and, yes, someday they may be a chief candidate!

  • Anonymous

    Read my supply and demand comment herein.  There is a huge demand for IT skills and those salaries are in that range or more.  If you read the comments a month or so ago on the IT proposal, you will see that this 1 person will be doing the jobs of about 4-5 people to solve those problems.  Same will apply, if there are multiple applicants (qualified), pay the lowest possible salary to attract the person to accept the job.  There is another sideline to the IT job, his/her recommendations to solve problems will result in spending more money that is not there.

  • Anonymous

    U referring to the Sheriff asking for money rather than the acting Chief of Police?  All the chief has asked for is a bunch of new Chargers.  The sheriff’s shopping list is much longer.

  • Anonymous

    Nope, I’m not an IT person.

  • Anonymous

    They should raise the chief’s money. And, I don’t know where they will find a good IT person for that money. Maybe a new grad. Money is more like 88K for what they want, at least!

  • Anonymous

    Does it matter? state, city, county.? it seems to me that with the crime rate in this city and county that they should have better sense than even ask for money for anything when they have apparently have not done much for what they already get….The bottom line is when are the tax payers going to get off their butts and say ENOUGH! We all read the paper daily and see where they have to borrow money just to make the current payroll… so how are they going to afford to pay out more to anyone? The crime rate is rampant with daily home invasions, shooting, drug activity, vandalism, murder the list is endless and they have the nerve to ask for more money? this is not that big a place the crime rate should definitely not be this high. It sounds to me that they just want to increase their cash flow and could care less if the job is even done… much less right.
    This is the kind of dead weight we need to be rid of and there are many more that fits this criteria…. until we the people get rid of the dead weight and stop all this wasteful spending and find someone with some common sense to run this city right and knows how and where to make cuts things will never change…. I bet anything they do not do is  look at the prices for basic supplies for these offices such as printer paper and other office supplies? chances are they go where they like and buy it without thought to how much it cost. That can become very costly over time… this garbage of hiring a contract person to cut highways and city and county property again is wasteful…. when you have criminals at the rate this place does labor should be free…. everyone has to earn their keep no matter what… why are the inmates getting a free ride? because no one says jack about it that’s why! As long as this kind of crap is ongoing things will always be like this in the red scrimping and praying to make ends meet and barely covering our own butts…. it will eventually lead to our own downfall and the citizens are just as responsible as the morons who are doing the deed because we know it is a problem and no one is doing jack about it!

  • Anonymous

    Not only should the police chief’s salary be increased, but, so should every officer on the force.  That is a DANGEROUS JOB and those men and women should be compensated for putting themselves between the thugs and John Q. Public!!!

  • Anonymous

    don’t they get to split the drug money and drugs that they seize and other contraband?

  • Anonymous

    Back in the days (60s 70s early 80s) there was just as many or more people in natchez and on the best  days there would be only 4 patrol cars on the street but if you called the station with a problem you had better not stand in your drive way waiting because you would have at least 2 there at once and right away. If there was a traffic light failure there would actually be an officer under the light directing traffic not one parked on the side talking on the cell phone. all that was begged for was was a cage across the front seat so the arrested in the rear couldnt head butt and spit on the officer all the way to the

  • Anonymous

    Supply and demand…the educational requirements for holding a policeman’s job is around a high school graduate level which translates into low pay in the real world.  Combined with poor fiscal management by our gov’t officials, these officers are destined to stay low on the ladder.  As long as you can hire warm bodies at the low pay scale, it will not improve much.

  • Anonymous

    Now what would they do with their share of the drugs and other contraband they seized – supplement their income?  Wow, Nashville is liberal!

  • Anonymous

    station. The boa attempted to keep the police dept and fire dept. pay the same and when the kick back from the state fire ins. came in it was split between the fire dept. and police.for a small raise. No there was no kicking and shouting from the fire dept. because at that time they helped on another. If a vehicle was scratched there was hell to pay and they were passed around in the departments untill they could no longer be made to run.  Yes if you wanted the walking beat downtown go scratch a car. The police now have cars and communication that

  • Anonymous

    station. The boa attempted to keep the police dept and fire dept. pay the same and when the kick back from the state fire ins. came in it was split between the fire dept. and police.for a small raise. No there was no kicking and shouting from the fire dept. because at that time they helped on another. If a vehicle was scratched there was hell to pay and they were passed around in the departments untill they could no longer be made to run.  Yes if you wanted the walking beat downtown go scratch a car. The police now have cars and communication that

  • Anonymous

    the men then would have gave their arm for. But the job was done with less cars men and equiptment and to my idea better. 

  • Anonymous

    No!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    No!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I think it should. Not just because a few others (chief’s) in the state get paid more, but because of all the good news (reports) that I read about in the newspaper. Things are looking-up (brighter future).

  • Anonymous

    Seriously!!! A full page spread on chief salary. Why not stand up for the patrol officers?  We can all come up with reasons why the N.P.D and N.F.D. can,t get a raise. Lets be real the US goverment spends BILLIONS of dollars for drug enforcement, but has it made a difference. southerlady1916 do you really believe that a local police deptment can stop crime?  The Police in Natchez are doing the best they can and use self motivation to fight crime everyday How would you feel if you went to work for 12 hours wearing a bullet proof vest and carring a gun knowing that your home town exspects you to be paid the lowest and then says “its because of  the educational requirements for holding a policeman’s job is around a high school graduate level which translates into low pay in the real world.” So lets make the polce acadamy to Two years where they can get a degree. then they will have to get paid more. Do not under estimate that UNEDUCATED polce officer he my be smarter than you think. STREET SMART how much would you pay (hearme dont worry about spelling)

  • Anonymous

    “The ones in Natchez do not deserve a raise since they can not curtail the crime…”
    That is not the job of law enforcement.  Their job is to investigate crimes and apprehend people who break the law so they can be brought to trial or otherwise cited.  The police cannot stop someone from breaking in your house, they cannot stop someone from speeding, they cannot stop someone from plotting and committing a murder and they cannot stop the sale of drugs.  They just can’t.  If they could, the crime rate would be zero.  The police are not responsible for the behavior of others.

  • Anonymous

    If the pay is so bad, why don’t they have any trouble filling the position? 

  • Anonymous

    First of all , Chief Danny White has not asked for any money. He did follow up on a previous order for new vehicles. How dare you say the police do not deserve a raise! That’s right…look at the paper every day and see what the police are up against! Thugs who the judges keep turning loose. Convicted felons who are continiously let out of prison because it cost too much to house them. I dare you to look a single police officer in the eye and tell them they don’t deserve a raise, better yet, tell their family members! southernlady1916….you are no lady.

  • Anonymous

    i think you are the one who has this wrong. They are getting paid to keep law and order…. yes people will commit crimes and no one is to blame for that but the one doing the crime. BUT…. there seems to be a lot of crime at the mall, in neighborhoods that are in the downtown section people getting their doors kicked in, women getting their purses snatched from them in broad daylight….Most of this is in very populated areas where are the cops? who knows? It seems to me that if this is all we have for protection we are so screwed!

  • Anonymous

    1st of all, a thousand dollars a week just isn’t a bad salary in Natchez, I don’t care who you are. 2ndly, when we get a new chief, let’s see how he handles the department and if crime goes down before our illustrious leaders start doaling out a raise. 3rdly, if you’re going to compare other cities our size, then YOU MUST compare the crime rate also. Just leave it alone for now.

  • Anonymous

    How dare you defend people who refuse to do their JOB! My tax dollars are paying for a service and I expect service. I do not care if I know them or not they could be a best friend but, so if the shoe fits wear it… if you aint doing your job then you should not expect to get a raise…If you paid the electric bill and came home to no lights would you not be upset? same principle!. I have read the paper that’s why I say they do not deserve a raise… this town is too small for this much crime and numerous times certian areas have been in the paper with numerous problems but do they ever clean the area up? NO! Why do they not? are they afraid to go clean it up ?
    As for their danger on the job any idiot knows that if you are afraid to face criminals and danger in life then you have no business in law enforcement since that is the main purpose of their  job. No one made them sign up to be an officer and they, I am sure while in the academy were told of the stories and scenarios that have or could happen for that matter all you have to do is watch the news on TV.
    As for the criminals being released that is a matter with the courts and politicians… police arrest them that’s about then end of their line with the exception if they are called to court. We have a judge here who is one that needs to be removed from the bench but she keeps on working because no one says jack.
    Dude… you do not want to dare me to do anything because I have no problem telling anyone anything and rank and file means nothing to me. if you messed up, then you messed up,,, I do not care what authority you have. Again as for the families if they did not want to live with the risk of the job their spouse and family members have then they should not have married into it  as for other members then it really was not their choice to make what career  they chose. They knew the pay and the danger when they signed up to work the job if they can’t handle it then they need to find a job with better pay and that is not so dangerous. I agree that some do deserve better pay but not all of them and around here the crime is rampant and nothing is getting done about it… earn your pay!…. it is a required situation not a privileged one.

  • Anonymous

    Police are not for the purpose of keeping law and order.  They get paid to patrol, watch for crime and pursure and aprehend criminals.  They also have secondary roles like directing traffic, etc.  ”Keeping law and order” is an all-encompassing task handled by the entire criminal justice system, of which the police are only a small part.  Police maintain a presence in areas for several reasons. One is an attempt to deter crime by being visible.  That only goes so far.  As soon as the car is a block over, people can continue their crimes.  Another is response times.  They spread out around town so that at least a unit or two will be within a reasonable response time to an incident anywhere in town. 

    Other than physically standing next to your car 24/7, how do you expect police to prevent someone from breaking into it?  They cannot be at all places at all times.  They certainly can’t camp out on other people’s private property, like the mall or people’s homes.  That is why malls and other private businesses hire private security.What you have for protection is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of these United States.  Cops are powerless until a crime is being, or has, been committed.  As it should be.  It sounds to me as though you wish for a police state.  We are all ultimately responsible for our own safety.  That’s part of being free.

  • Anonymous

    And everyone wonders why the system does not work????? this is IT! too many friends of those in office that want to turn a blind eye when it is their friends  or favorites who are doing the wrong but ready to lay anyone else out in fire and brimstone…. Whatever you think is entirely up to you…. BUT the fact remains that there is still way too much crime for a town this size and that can be deterred if they would organize their department so they have someone in certain sections at all times your more troubled areas need more presence and monitoring than those with a much less to no crime rate… it is  just common sense.

  • Anonymous

    “…your more troubled areas need more presence and monitoring than those with a much less to no crime rate… it is  just common sense.”

    On that we do agree.

  • Anonymous

    What ever happened to “community” involvement…as in REPORTING crimes, criminals and suspected illegal and criminal activity???

    Law enforcement cannot protect each and every citizen and their property 24/7. There is a missing component in your arguement…PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

  • Anonymous

    That’s another part of the problem, people in those areas are either afraid to say anything or else they know the people involved or are related to them or know their family so they keep quite out of loyalty… then they are screaming because they got shot at, their home was robbed or some other crap…..I know the police can’t be each and every citizens personal body guard but I do feel that there could be a better plan than this fly by the seat of our pants thing that’s happening now. I do feel if they would go through and do a sting that would at least decrease the crime and by keeping officer patrolling in those big crime areas will deter it to some degree… criminals are in it for the money if you mess that up they have to find another area to make money or will eventually leave and if more people would open their mouth ans speak out about what they see then that would help too BUT  In the mean time if you want protection then you best get your own gun and learn to shoot if you don’t know how because that’s what it’s coming down to.

  • Anonymous

    OK, so how to break the strangle-hold on the “community”…which is the source for a major portion of the crime in the Miss-Lou

  • Anonymous

    Yet some will call “more presence” to be racial profiling and cry foul…

  • Anonymous

    Matters a lot if you are going to say the chief asked for money and he hasn’t. You seem to be the queen of misinformation.

  • Anonymous

    Matters a lot if you are going to say the chief asked for money and he hasn’t. You seem to be the queen of misinformation.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    They knew what the job included as well as the salary and benefits so I feel these folks need to appreciate that they have a job for there are plenty that don’t??!! If they don’t like their job leave and find another for its a free country.

  • Anonymous

    No I am not… Read the story….  You people are nuttier than a tree full of squirrels… everyday I sit here reading comment after comment about how crappy the BOA is, how the city has to borrow money to make payroll, how much crime is out there for a town this size, about how much the property taxes are and lack of work the list is endless, yet when someone actually steps up and makes the solution known those very people cower and  want to all of a sudden defend the very one’s who are doing the dirt? Here is the only common sense solution to all of this either grow a pair and step up to the plate and make these politicians own up to the job in which they were elected and produce some positive results or sit back shut up and be the door mats that you have all been being because you don’t have the never to speak up for yourself. Which means the next time they do something that you do not approve then keep your mouths shut because you are too afraid to make a real stand.

  • Anonymous

    OK that’s the problem there let them cry foul….As long as people use race as a reason to support corruption and crime then they are part of the problem but by turning a blind eye and giving in puts everyone in danger. That is a whole other situation that I am not going to go into here but should it come up I have never nor will I ever back down on my own beliefs just because someone is afraid to make a stand against this kind of crap.

  • Anonymous

    Have you ever considered running for public office? You’re chirping the right tune…

  • Anonymous

    One thing I have learned is that the majority of people want change but yet they want it to stay the same… you can’t have both….I  have thought about it a time or two just nothing definite….would even be willing to help them out if they would actually listen and make the changes needed. But I won’t go sit in there and listen to excuses of why they do this or have to have that… that just more of the same… there needs to be some serious changes and chances are a good many feathers will get ruffled in the process. I am very direct and to the point and If i had the liberty of speaking my mind without being censored by the Democrat everyone would know exactly where I stand and just how direct I can be. I definitely speak my mind.

  • Anonymous

    Once again I refer to my military training….You can complain about anything, but what are YOU doing to fix the problem? Nothing…you even say you dont go to any meetings because you dont want to hear excuses….I say again…do something about it or shut up. Everyone has an opinion…but it takes ACTION to get things done….Run for office, donate your time, call city hall and asked to be put on the agenda for the next Alderman meeting. There you can openly adress any issue you have with the city…or police….please do….I would love to see you there., but until you do…your opinion is just like —holes…everyone has one.

  • Anonymous

    Just yesterday, i again saw the regular charger sitting at the city limits on the north 61 end with the radar gun in high gear. We really don’t need any fast response time from the city police past that city limit sign, so I would suggest they be stationed somewhere in the MIDDLE of their area of coverage rather than the far edge. Same applies to the usual radar traps at Trinity on the south and at the bridge. As a crime deterrent, I propose to sequester all radar guns at the police station until this crime wave is deterred properly by having polce on patrol in the affected areas, not at the city outskirts.

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