LAUREN WOOD / THE NATCHEZ DEMOCRAT — Thelma White, 89, rests her hand on her grandfather Irvin Evans’ headstone Saturday evening in the Watkins Street cemetery. White is working to form an organization to preserve the historic cemetery.

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White recalls deep roots, struggles in Natchez

Published 12:34am Sunday, June 17, 2012

NATCHEZ — What Thelma White knows about the end of slavery in Natchez she didn’t read in schoolbooks.

Stories about her grandfather, who worked as a “kitchen boy” when he was a slave at Dunleith, were passed down to White, 89, from her mother.

Though White’s relative just two generations apart from her experienced his first taste of freedom from slavery, the only black person she ever learned about in school was George Washington Carver, who cultivated the peanut.

“There’s a lot of things I don’t know,” said White.

She does know that her grandfather came to Natchez from Virginia with a group of little boys. “He never knew of a mother or father,” White said of her grandfather.

The owners of Dunleith bought Evans at the Forks of the Road, the second-largest slave trade post in the South.

When Evans was freed, he opened a café on Franklin Street just four buildings down from the corner of the former Pine Street, where he sold pastries, baked good and candy, White said.

“As soon as he was freed, he did what he did his whole life — he went home and made pastries,” she said.

White still has the wedding dress her grandmother, a seamstress, wore in 1904. When her grandfather died in 1913, he was a respected businessman.

Though many history books in school don’t include the black history of Natchez, White has made it her mission the past nine years to see that the physical black history of the Natchez past is preserved.

As the founder of the Worthy Women of Watkins Street Cemetery, White continues to encourage the community to form an organization to preserve the cemetery where her grandfather is buried.

She is hosting a meeting at noon Saturday at Rose Hill Baptist Church to discuss options about starting a foundation for the preservation, not just maintenance, of the cemetery.

While the Worthy Women organization works to raise money to provide lawn care at the site, White wants a long-term preservation plan for the cemetery. It’s a place where black people were buried after the Civil War, when the City of Natchez banned blacks in the city cemetery. At that time, the location of the cemetery near Frazier School was outside the city limits.

The cemetery was founded when 10 men raised $500 each to buy 16 acres of land to have a place where blacks could be buried.

The fact that the first black people in Natchez who were freed from slavery are buried in the cemetery is enough it itself to merit preservation, White said.

Evans’ grave at the Watkins Street Cemetery is near the entrance on the north side of the gravel road.

Before visiting her grandfather’s grave and shaking her head at the overgrowth Saturday, White attended a Juneteenth celebration at Melrose.

While at the outdoor barbecue, James Meredith, a famous civil rights activist and the first black student admitted to the University of Mississippi, gave a surprise visit.

“We had a celebrity visit,” Natchez Association for the Preservation of Afro-American Culture Director Darrell White said.

Guest chef Michael Twitty told stories of his relatives in Virginia when they learned they were free.

“One hour, one minute of (my enslaved relative’s) life was harder than all of mine,” Twitty said, as he prodded a whole pig covered in African spices.

White enjoyed the celebration, which was attended by both black and white people, as she sat under a tree and mingled.

“It’s important for (younger generations) to know how far we have come and how important those (newly freed) people were,” White said.

 

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    I believe this is the same cemetary that in the past have had problems getting it cared for because the people couldn’t get the funds up are the people were too laxy to take care of to be blunt! This cemetary formed in 1909 isn’t that old so simple put the people relatives in the cemetary should keep it up and no goverment agency should!! I’m envolved with a cemetary that relatives were buried in the 1700′s that we have to fund to take care of!!!!

  • Anonymous

    What a beautiful lady!

  • Anonymous

    But they just like this lady just look at it and shake their heads and await the city or someone else to take care of it.

  • Anonymous

    Khakjrat stop trying to make a good article into something STUPID!!!!!! You want so badly to make your RACIST comments but you just can’t find anything negative to go on!!!!! You’re a CLOWN to the full!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Great article ND! Thanks for the coverage!

  • Anonymous

    while i sympathize with the plight of the cemetery, i have to ask. does anyone know how many black men are involved in lawn maintenace in Natchez? can they not help with the upkeep of this cemetery? i understand the need of money to assist but until someone finds a grant to assist in preserving the cemetery why won’t the local black community volunteer to see this done? the ladies organization should be commended but they need to be supported by the black men. i persoanlly go out from time to time and clean headstones. no one pays me to do this. i put a little money back from time to time and buy what i need and go do it. i again ask where are our black men (15yrs – 60yres old ) in the community. i believe they just don’t care.

  • Anonymous

    I REALLY FEEL SORRY FOR > MANY, NOT ALL < WHITE PEOPLE. THERE PARENTS DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO EDUCATION THEM ABOUT BLACK HISTORY. MANY BLACKS LIVED THE HISTORY AND PASTED IT ON THREW GENERATIONS. THERE ARE MANY WHITE PEOPLE, MALES AND FEMALES THE SAME AGE AS MS THELMA WHITE. THEY KNOW AS MUCH OR MORE ABOUT THE STRUGGLE AS MS WHITE. THEY DIDN'T PAST IT ON THREW THERE GENERATION FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THEY DIDN'T WANT THEM TO KNOW. IF SOME YOUNGER WHITES WOULD KNOW WHAT THERE ANCESTORS WAS INVOLVED IN DOING THE STRUGGLE, SOME WHITES WOULD BE PROUD OF THEM AND SOME WHITES WOULD BE ASHAME OF THEM. WHAT REALLY BOTHER ME THE MOST IS EVERYTIME RACE COMES UP THE SAME RED NECKS THAT ARE PROUD OF WHAT THERE GENERATION ACCOMPLISHED, THEY ARE TRYING HARD TO HOLD ON TO THOSE SAME  IDEALS. BUT LET ME BE THE FIRST TO TELL YOU "IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN" THE SECOND THING THAT BOTHER ME IS: A IGNORANT WHITE BOY WHEN IT COME TO RACE ISSUES.        

  • Anonymous

    THIS CEMETERY SHOULDN’T BE A PROBLEM AT ALL. IF IT WAS WHITE AND IN THE CITY LIMITS YOU WOULDN’T KNOW IT EXIST. THIS CEMETERY WOULDN’T HAVE EXISTED IF THE CITY WOULDN’T HAVE PRESERVED THE CITY CEMETERY FOR “WHITES ONLY” OR ANY OTHER RACE BUT BLACKS. THERE ARE MANY MORE THINGS WITHIN THE CITY THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING WHEN IT COME TO RACE ISSUES. LET ME GET BACK TO THOSE IGNORAMUS. THEY WILL ALWAYS SAY I HAVE A BLACK FRIEND SO HOW DO THAT MAKE ME A RACIST ? YOU ARE NOT JUST A RACIST, BUT A IGNORGANT RACIST. THEY THINK FOOD STAMPS AND BLACKS HAVE MORE IN COMMON, I HOPE IT DON’T CHOKE YOU TO KNOW, WHITES ARE LEADING THE WAY WHEN IT COME TO THE STAMPS AND IT’S BEEN THAT WAY FOR QUITE SOMETIME. YOU GO TO WALMART TWO OR THREE O’CLOCK DOING THE MORNING HRS. , THERE YOU WILL SEE THEM WITH NOT ONE BUGGIE BUT TWO, PULLING ONE AND PUSHING THE OTHER. I COULD WRITE A BOOK ON HOW THOSE INORAMUS THINK. NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHOT OUT TO THOSE INORAMUS> ” HAPPY FATHER’S DAY < . 

  • Anonymous

    I have relatives buried over there also.  But I really WISH to know my true roots. But I understand it can be very expensive.  Would it be great to know exactly where our(AFRICAN AMERICAN) fore parents originated.

    I am sure some of the graves have no stone.  But records are at West,Mackel,Webb,Curtis and William and Wiliam.
    Natchez has had it trials but it is still home.
     

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    You are the very one and others that need to up keep that cemetary with you helping in or paying to have it up keeped that you have relatives there

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    Pardon, but only throwing the light of the subject that your people are laxy thats factual isn’t saying a thing about racist and you call me a clown shows your intelligents!! You have a good Fathers Day!!

  • Anonymous

    Dave07Deuce07:  I feel the brain cells in my head dying off when I read your remarks full of hatred, and the broken grammar/poor English of Khakirat…. Why in the hell does everything boil down to race????  We aren’t living in the 1800′s anymore— but around her you wouldn’t know it!!! Call Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, or Louis Farakhan you white hater you!!! Quit blaming all your problems on whitey…. It’s getting old, and doesn’t carry any weight…. Why don’t all the “unemployed” “disabled” black males riding around in their suped up 1985 Buicks w/ $5000 dollar paint jobs/wheels get off their free loading butts and help make a difference, other than sleeping with any girl they can, and making babies right and left that my tax dollars support….. No, I’m not racist you bigot….. I’m telling you the honest truth, and you know it!

  • Anonymous

    There= Place: Their= Indicates possession: They’re= Contraction of “they are”. 

  • Anonymous

     He THREW the dictionary THROUGH the wall. 

  • Anonymous

    Your AFRICAN AMERICAN foreparents originated in AFRICA AMERICA.

  • Anonymous

    cemetery

  • Anonymous

    intelligence

  • Anonymous

    cemetery

  • Anonymous

    other than typing errororrorrs, this is well written

  • Anonymous

    You may now begin to agree on something. You’re (you are) welcome. 

  • Anonymous

    can (wink, wink; nod, nod)

  • Anonymous

    You might as well plan to get along with it, it will never be corrected in this lifetime.

  • Anonymous

    If you prefer to be a hyphenated American you need to get out of my America. I am an American. I am red, brown, black, yellow,and white. The country my ancestors came from has nothing to do with me. OR YOU!!!

  • Anonymous

    What is “laxy”?  Rat, are making up words again?  You’re certainly are appearing to be not only ignorant, but pretty racist.   Now go find a second grader to proof your rants.

  • Anonymous

    This is not YOUR America.  YOU don’t get to determine who stays or goes.  YOU may not know or care about or understand how your history affects you, but don’t assume others don’t or shouldn’t.  And until the wrongs are righted, where one came from and how they got here will matter.

  • Anonymous

    Between Deuce and Rat, a visitor would wonder if we even had an educational system here.  If they’re this lazy and sloppy in their writing, how articulately could they possibly speak?

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    Go take a hike you judger of men!! Just hit the wrong key dummy!!

    In a message dated 6/18/2012 12:04:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, notifications@disqus.net writes:

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    MisterRational wrote, in response to khakirat:
    What is “laxy”? Rat, are making up words again? You’re certainly are appearing to be not only ignorant, but pretty racist. Now go find a second grader to proof your rants.

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  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

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    PrincessWhite wrote, in response to khakirat:
    intelligence

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  • Anonymous

    I don’t remember wronging you or anyone else and this is MY America. You just go get your check and cheese.

  • Anonymous

    Their, they’re now….Lightning up and stop fightin’ . .. smile (simile)

  • Anonymous

    I understand, OS Gent. Just trying to interject a little humor. Those red squiggly lines beneath ‘missppelled’ words is worth mentioning though. Cheers.

  • Anonymous

    No, it’s OUR America, and the sooner everyone realizes that, the sooner we can get past race issues. 

  • Anonymous

    Twice?  No proof reading?  That’s laxy!

  • Anonymous

    There are plenty of black people buried in the Natchez City Cemetery.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    People as yourself make me want to throw up and then stangle you!! I hope one day to meet you in person and you can size me up!!!

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    There was only one that was perfect in my Holy Bible!!!

  • Anonymous

    That sounds like a threat, Rat.  Look, your willful ignorance is embarrassing.  You seem to revel in it as though it’s something to be proud of, instead of recognizing that you should be ashamed.  This is a public forum where people from all over the world can view our thoughts.  Your misspelling, horrible grammar, silly punctuation and poorly thought out perspectives reflect on all of us.  Rather than focusing your frustration on me, you should spend thirty seconds and proof read your rants. 

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    You tend to your business and I will like wise!! Have a great day!!
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    MisterRational wrote, in response to khakirat:
    That sounds like a threat, Rat. Look, your willful ignorance is embarrassing. You seem to revel in it as though it’s something to be proud of, instead of recognizing that you should be ashamed. This is a public forum where people from all over the world can view our thoughts. Your misspelling, horrible grammar, silly punctuation and poorly thought out perspectives reflect on all of us. Rather than focusing your frustration on me, you should spend thirty seconds and proof read your rants.

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