Vidalia looking at layoffs, hoping to find alternatives

Published 12:03am Wednesday, August 22, 2012

VIDALIA — Several City of Vidalia employees could be laid off as early as today after several weeks of discussing alternatives has left city officials with no other option, they say.

Vidalia Mayor Hyram Copeland said he has been meeting with city officials, department heads and employees for several weeks discussing alternatives to the layoffs.

“I’m doing everything I can to hopefully alleviate the worst outcome,” Copeland said. “People are going to hear that we’re laying people off, but the exact amount of how many people hasn’t been decided.”

Copeland said he would be exploring every option — including talking to federal and state agencies — before making a decision today regarding employee layoffs.

“We’re taking this on a day-to-day basis, because I keep getting new information every day that is helpful and could change our minds,” Copeland said. “The decision we make will naturally affect the entire town.”

Copeland refrained from discussing any exact details of the number of employees being laid off or exact reasons until today, but did mention the river’s effect on the city playing a role.

“Within 15 months, we’ve gone though two major disasters,” Copeland said. “We went from a record 500-year flood to a drought within that short amount of time.

“The last time the drought was this bad up and down the Mississippi River was 70 years ago.”

Alderman Tron McCoy said that the mayor and other city officials approached the board with the city’s dilemma several months ago looking for any other options besides the obvious.

“We’ve been talking about it for a couple of months because we’ve been running the city very carefully for the past couple of months, but we’ve reached our wits end on little solutions to fix a big problem,” McCoy said. “We’re going through some tough financial times right now, and I don’t think there’s ever a good time to lay off people, but the decision had to be made.

“This is the toughest decision that we’ve had to make since I’ve been an alderman.”

In June, the Vidalia Board of Aldermen approved the city’s proposed 2013 budget with approximately $4,000 less in spending than last year’s budget.

The 2012-2013 budget included $32 million in expected expenditures, which included $8.2 million in personal services for salaries and wages, insurance and employee benefits.

The 2011-2012 budget allocated $8.3 million in personal services, which included approximately $5.9 million for the city’s 181 fulltime employees.

In the newest proposed budget, total revenues listed under the “hydro fund,” which are monies generated from the Sidney A. Murray Jr. Hydroelectric Station, totaled $14,600,000. A $10,500,000 utility service is listed in the hydro plant expenditures.

The hydro plant, located 40 miles from Vidalia, relies on the natural flow of the Mississippi River and an elevation drop at the Old River Control complex to generate power and electricity.

On Tuesday, the river level at Natchez was 9.1 feet, but levels are forecasted to drop to as low as 7 feet by mid September, according to the National Weather Service.

Those hydro revenue funds make up 46 percent of the total $31,502,650 in expected revenues for the city.

“The hydro plant plays a tremendous part in what we do daily in the City of Vidalia,” McCoy said. “When the hydro plant is not functioning at 100 percent, we do have difficulties in the city.”

Last year when the river rose to 61.9 feet, the city spent $2.5 million in flood prevention and recovery.

The city had received $952,325 of reimbursement from the Federal Emergency Management Agency in May, and hoped to receive the remainder of it’s $1.8 million eligible funds by the end of the year.

FEMA will reimburse only 75 cents for every dollar the city spent.

The 2012 budget allocated $4,944,000 in capital projects for the new 30,000-square foot Vidalia municipal complex.

The complex was completed earlier this year, and the 2012-2013 budget only allocates $80,000 for capital projects.

“With the economy being so tough, we need to monitor our budget and make sure we have the right amount to meet the expenses of the city,” City Manager Ken Walker said during the June budget meeting.

But the completion of the municipal complex also means the city must start paying the $6.94 million U.S. Department of Agriculture loan that will be paid out over 40 years to finance the complex.

The new loan payment totals a $150,000 increase in the budget’s debt service category.

Rumors throughout the community after department head and employee meetings suggested as many as 30 to 50 employees would lose their jobs.

“I’m still not 100 percent sure on what we’re going to do, but 50 people is not the case,” Copeland said. “If you sit down to talk to three people in a room and make a statement, by the time they leave the room all three of them are going to have a different story of what just happened.

“I can’t stop people from talking, but we’re trying to not take any drastic actions that we don’t have to.”

Attempts to reach other aldermen were unsuccessful.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe HL Irvin can retire from his hard 3 or 4 hours a week for that big salary and stop driving his city car home to Lake St John. There is a lot of dead weight at the Riverwalk that could be cut and help your budget Vidalia.

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t the Hydo plant shut down due to low water levels?  Why did it take the Democrat so long to get this story?  Everyone else knew it last week.

  • Raymond Murray

    the hydro money was not meant to run the city. a 32 million dollar budget for a population of 4000 come on… the mayor and the board of alderman should have never spent hydro money like this, it is time to let go of all the jobs that where just created for friends. when the mayor talked about city payroll he compared us to Natchitoches with a pop of 17,900. we are more like Bunkie pop 4,900 or Church Point 4,700 or Lake Providence 5,100. I wonder what the budget is in those towns. we have a city ordnance for using the hydro money shame on the mayor and alderman for not sticking to it…most citizens are in the dark about this and that is just what  the mayor and his group of yes men want. shame on them.

  • Raymond Murray

    shame
     

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  • Anonymous

    This is a terrible time for anyone to lose their job, and unless they’re retirement age and CAN retire, to have to go out into the current economic climate and have to look for a job, which is a job, in itself.  I can recall some months ago, the salaries of some or all COV employees were posted here.  For a town the size of Vidalia to pay out those types of salaries, the INcome must be available.  If the COV is now looking to lay off some, maybe an alternative they can seek would be to lower those salaries.  I know, I know, NO ONE wants a pay cut now, but unless these are positions that the COV have been looking to end altogether, this alternative of a lower salary, would be far better than NO salary.  If the COV is really serious about not having to lay off any of their employees, either pull the funds from another arena, or look into spreading the salaries a little thinner so that others can keep their jobs.  Not a popular idea, I know, but one nonetheless.

  • Anonymous

    well lets start with all the neww building they got they didnt need they didnt need the new ball parks all the people riding and not doing nothing thats wasting gas and poplice going to their houses thats way they fire people its not because of the river its the people thats in the office instead of putting something in for the kids to have fun they put stuff they dont need so they need to quick blaming the river for the massup

  • Anonymous

    well lets start with all the unnessary buildings the got like the city hall the police station the fire station and the ball parks that is buildings they did not need thats were all the money is going and paying people to work and they dont work instead the come to people house to talk for hours while on the job thats why the need to be fired they get paid to work not talk.and next on the list like your police goes home 5 or more times while they work when they are supose to be working thats not procting the people is it and thats wasting gas thats why the town is going broke.

  • Anonymous

    I have written several comments about this issue when Natchez tries to compare itself to Vidalia when it doesn’t have the hydro income to splurge.  When the hydro plant original investment pays out in the near future, there will be lots more money to hire back double the number of these layoffs. Time to pay the piper for all that envy they have been getting.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    Yea, we got people working in the Natchez Adams county goverments that live in La. and their bosses know it seems the rules are bent so Jammin don’t feel bad people in Natchez doing the same!! People have known about the layoff for a week and just this A/M the ND put it in the paper for it may have been put in the Clarion Ledger before the ND!!  Raymond Murray protect Grandpa’s interest as you should and tell it like it should and as I told you some years ago that you should run for the mayorship for you would be great!!!

  • Anonymous

       Murry was perfectly right, the Hydro-Plant WAS NOT build to run the city.  And what about ALL THE REVENUE that was made all the years that the Hydro-Plant was running wide open ? 
      And IF the citizens of Vidalia remember, the River Park and River Walk was ACTUALLY suppose to be for THE PEOPLE OF VIDALIA !!!!  They took that away from the people and made it a commercial money train for certain ones.
      And let’s talk about the “New Facility “. They said the old building was not usable.  WRONG AGAIN !!! Was nothing wrong with it. Just needed a little work, roof leaked a little ( which it needed anyway ) They claimed it had mold. Heck, what do you expect. Roof leaked a little. You tear out the bad and replace it. That does not cost millions. City has carpenders and maintance workers. Could not cost that much for a few weeks work. Remember, you also have access to work realease labor.
      We have just about the same population as we did years ago, maybe less.  Why did we need to build a BIG office building ? We live in the computer world, we don’t keep records in boxes anymore.  We had a drive up window just like the new building. Why ? And to build it way out there, just don’t make sense.

     Seems like Vidalia did not have all this trouble until they built the riverfront. Turned into a commercial project. Not a community idea .

     And then you have the now famous, VIDALIA POLICE DEPARTMENT.  You have a person,  trying to run it that can barely write his name. He has fired all the officers that had any experiance. Caused more trouble in this community, that it is going to take years and many people to get the Vidalia Police Department
     back like it was before he stepped in. Trust and Faith is gone from that department. All this reflects on the image of the city.  Do you think anybody is going to
     call the VPD if something is needed. You would have more trouble driving up at the scene if you call the VPD.  They have a Recall petition on the roll. Everybody’s
     is signing this recall. There are more copies of the recall petition going around the city, that they have trees. People are stirring like mad ants with a petition in
     their hand, and people are signing it. It is bad ……..

     People just want their Vidalia back,
    A laid back community with no drama.

       God Bless America
     
       

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    ND, don’t you think you have enough advertisement than to drown out a article for folks not to read it on line is ridiculous!! People are quit taking your rag at home is this your reason huh’??!!

  • Anonymous

    Yep, meebo across the bottom, ZINC ad down the side, answer stupid question to continue reading, news reporting from days ago, etc…
    What is this paper coming to?
     Soon, it will be like the Clarion Ledger, paid subscription to read online.
    Watch the ND numbers plummet then!

  • Anonymous

    WHEW!  I’m glad(?) you are seeing these same ads that Iam…I thought a bug had gotten ahold of me! Yep, too many ads. Infuriating.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7WLTDRUZF57MMMOYSPTB3GWSMU Southern

    They say they have no other option but to lay people off!!!!!!! but i also recall the COV employees salaries posted on here and if they would CUT down on some of the salaries that would help vidalia right there!!!! some of them salaries were outragious to pay annually!!!!!! NO way should they be getting paid that much for such a small town!!!!! ALSO if they have to layoff people then lay the ones off that havent been there for years and actually WORKED their way up to where they are!!!!!! just saying 

  • Anonymous

    I was thinking the same thing some days ago, but folks, that’s the cost of FREE.  I don’t want to give the ND any ideas, but some online papers are going to paid subscriptions to even view the full articles or most artlcles, because let’s face it, the paper versions of papers across this country, those subscriptions have dwindled.  When and IF that happens, I’m gone, not paying for it, so if I have to take a small survey to read further, I will, rather than pay especially depending upon the charge and for how much or what content.  Also, that Zinc add and the Meebo can be “X’d” out or closed so that they aren’t so intrusive.  Just click on the “X” to the side or underneath it.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t feel bad, Southern. I’ve been screaming about watching expenditures and salaries in Natchez for a while. How can the mayors of Vidalia and Natchez JUSTIFY the amount they get paid? To do WHAT? Cut ribbons? Give opening remarks? Free trips to Washington, DC ( of course it ain’t free- it’s on the taxpayer’s nickle). Preside over meetings? Ride around in a city (aka taxpayers’) car?  HELLLOooo! 

  • Anonymous

    I’d love for you to produce a copy of that ordinance for the people to see!

  • Anonymous

    i was thinking the exact same thing when i was reading this article

  • Anonymous

    spending is catching up with the mayor..jobs for friends,  jobs for votes,  jobs for brown nosers…..it does finally pop the fun

  • Anonymous

    Now, I’m gonna say something that some may not like.( so what’s new?)
    Not too long ago when the ND published-on the front page, no less- the salaries of those employeed with the two cities. And on this blog, several posters were quite smitten with the idea that many of the offices and positions in Vidalia paid MORE than the city of Natchez. Some were so smug in boasting that Vidalia was so far ahead that they were PROUD of how much some got paid, and wished they could get paid more.
    Hmmmmmmm
    Our two citites, like it or not, are strongly tied to each other. I believe in an honest days pay for an honest days work, but I don’t believe in extravagence!!
    Our two mayors get WAY TOO MUCH PAY. I also believe that our aldermen and supervisors get too much for (what should be) a part time job, if that.
    Who do I wish would see a little bonus? The folks who actually keep our cities going. Firemen, police, public works, etc.  The ones who get out in 100 degree heat and fix our sewers, and fill our potholes, and spray for mosquitos, and keep us safeand pick-up after storms, etc.. They do not sit behind desks in comfy chairs in air-conditioned rooms. They WORK, and they work HARD .
    Drop these high-paying executive salaries and do a tad bit of spreading of the wealth and keep people employed. ( I sound like Huey Long, but am a staunch conservative)
    Point is, the administration CAN find ways to preserve jobs, but they have to make cuts on their OWN salaries.
    Don’t hold your breath for that to happen.
    We should expect and demand more for our taxes.

  • Anonymous

    Raymond, you’re a good man, and sensible- just like you grandfather.
    Get active and make a difference! One man can start an avalanche with a good idea. And there are great and decent people all over our area that believe just like you. Make a difference. Hope you do, someday. If I lived over there, I’d vote for you!

  • Anonymous

    Yep, but the ads are like the Energizer bunny, they keep popping up after you X them out.  It would be nice if my home delivery guy got there on time.  When I  go out at 6AM to get the paper, I am fooled about half the time – but it does arrive most of the time by the time I leave for work at 7:15, thus no time to read it before I leave for work.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know where there is a Port Director on the payroll if there is no port?  I don’t know who the port director is or how much that person is getting paid…but there is NO port…and I don’t know where the money is coming to get a port..if the city can’t pay it’s employees…

  • Anonymous

    You’ve made a very good point here, similar to mine, regarding the reporting of the COV’s salaries.  I too also remember the smug tones of those who seemed to be in support of such lunacy, at the time of its posting.  Your comment however won’t get many likes, no matter how sane it is because you use a term tied to our own POTUS, and that’s spreading the wealth.  No one can give anyone’s wealth away, but like you said, I DON’T agree with abject extravagance for those in office who do nothing but push pens, while the true backbone, heart and soul of the jobs get squat!  Never have, never will and that’s NOT taking someone’s money and giving it to someone else, that’s leveling the playing field, IMO.  In reading the comments, meeting or exceeding the qualifications of the COV’s jobs gave way to nepotism and favoritism, in the public sector.  

  • Anonymous

     Well maybe the reason I don’t get that annoying pink bunny ever coming across my screen here, is because I have since been stopped using the Internet Explorer web browser, and I use Mozilla’s Firefox who has an add-on you can download as well, to the Firefox called Ad-Block, that blocks those types of ads that can pop up inadvertently on your screen. 

  • Anonymous

    I get so aggravated on this website. There are ads popping up all over the page. Makes it very hard just to read an article!!! UUGGHH

  • Anonymous

    Ahhhh, Mr Democrat Censor- I believe you have cut out a few posts. You could at least put up the ” GUEST, Comment Removed” to let people KNOW you are censoring.
    Also, why were the posts removed? Could you cite any remark that was defamatory? You know, this IS an opinion page. Did you get calls or pressure to remove?
    Please respond, because it is interesting how the ND is not supporting free speech.
    Funny how you are removing posts concerning opinions and experiences about elected/appointed officials, but you will let an article that devolves into racist slurs and accusations run forever!
    Looks like ‘ole H.L. and Staggs have some across-the-river connections at the paper.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com Kevin Cooper

    Burnley,

    We removed several comments this afternoon after they were flagged by users. To my knowledge, no city official called or “pressured” us to remove anything. If they had, we would apply the same set of rules and standards we always try to apply when posts are flagged as offensive or violations of our rules.

    The posts we removed were all (I believe) ones in which posters were taking personal jabs at non-elected city workers.

    Saying you think the city is overstaffed, poorly managed its funds or whatever is fine to post, if that’s what you believe. But when you take personal jabs at someone, by name, particularly ones who are not technically “public figures,” it violates our policies and thus are removed when brought to our attention.

    If you know of an article that includes racists slurs, please alert us immediately so that we may remove. Those (clearly) also violate our policies and I’d appreciate your help in letting us know about such things.

    Thanks.
    Kevin.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for responding.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com Kevin Cooper

    Thanks, Teach4Peace, for understanding that we’re a business and that advertisements help offset the cost of providing this free service to readers. We have no intention of charging for this site anytime soon, despite the ominous predictions from steve_o1, we’re quite happy with our website. :)

    Thanks.
    Kevin.

  • Anonymous

    “To stay afloat, Mayor Hyram Copeland said today (Wednesday) that he has laid off 14 employees and placed four on a part-time schedule, while four others are retiring.”
    And it begins…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W3ZRIJX4LTCJNRD3EXRWSN2B7M Carl

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  • Anonymous

    My pleasure!  

  • Anonymous

    Whoa, thanks for the update.  

  • Anonymous

    They have already laid of 18 people at the city last Wednesday.

  • Anonymous

    The City of Vidalia needs to be doing drug test on some of the city officials! The main one talking in that newspaper ad is one of the biggest pill heads in town and Im not talking about Copeland either. Did he forget to mention how many city vehicles he has wrecked? I know this will probably be deleted but oh well I just felt it needs to be said. As for Arthur Lewis, maybe some of the city’s money is going to that huge expensive home he has behind the high school. They laying off people at the city barn, maybe thats where they should give him a job hanging off the back of the trash truck!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7WLTDRUZF57MMMOYSPTB3GWSMU Southern

    So 14 lay offs so far and on a comment in the other article someone said there could be 36 more lay offs in october!!!!! This just floors me because there is no sense in this i mean really if they would just cut down on some of them high salaries and STOP with all the unnecessary BUILDING in this small town just to keep up with the jones, then the city wouldnt be in so much debt!!! and i personally dont know the people who have been laid off and they probably wont release names but im willing to bet that the decision of the lay offs were made like ” ITS ALL IN WHO YOU KNOW ” and its sad!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’d love to hear your explanation of what the money from the Hydro Plant is supposed to be used for?….any income from facilities (like the Hydro plant) in other cities goes into their city budgets……go to any other mayor in cities like Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Alexandria, etc and ask them where the money goes that comes in from plants in their area……if it didn’t go to the city’s budget, your property taxes would be a heck of a lot more than they are now and you’d be complaining of why they don’t use that money to lower them……everyone on here seems to have opinions
    and answers, but they’re the same people that do nothing about it but complain about whoever is in office and find something wrong with what they’re doing

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the tip.

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