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Published 12:06am Thursday, August 30, 2012

Editor’s note: The original version of this story misstated the amount of money City Engineer David Gardner requested to employ former public works director Richard Burke to complete the city’s street inventory. Gardner also did not request Burke train Public Works Supervisor Justin Dollar.

NATCHEZ — Increasing salaries for elected officials, police officers, firefighters and public works employees and raising taxes were just a few ideas the Natchez Board of Aldermen discussed at its budget meeting Wednesday.

The Natchez Board of Aldermen discussed an approximately $12.8 million budget for the 2012-2013 fiscal year that included a $300,000-$500,000 increase from the current fiscal year.

The increase, Mayor Butch Brown said after the meeting, would be mainly attributed to raises.

Salaries

Three years ago, the aldermen voted to cut their own salaries along with those of the mayor, city clerk and municipal judge.

Now, the city can afford to reinstate those cuts, raising their own salaries, Brown said.

The aldermen agreed and the salaries will be reinstated to their former amount beginning Oct. 1.

Ward 5 Alderman Mark Fortenbery expressed that he may not want to increase his own salary but would not object to the other increases.

Brown said he believes that financial recovery is in place, and he said the $255,000 surplus the city will have at the end of the fiscal year will offset the cost of the reinstatement of salaries and raises to employees.

Ward 6 Alderman Dan Dillard said the salary cuts were made during a year when the city had to borrow almost $2 million to get by and cut 14 employees.

Brown said he understood why the cuts were made and said the problem has worked itself out.

“We can afford to reinstate salaries, and we ought to,” Brown said.

Brown said he did not think the salaries should have been cut in the first place and raised the question of whether the board had the power to cut the salaries of other elected officials.

“I know they can cut their own, but I’m not sure they have the power to cut the city clerk’s and judge’s salaries,” he said.

That decision was made three years ago, but City Attorney Hyde Carby said he would look into whether the board had the power to do that.

The aldermen’s salaries will be approximately $22,000, except for Ward 1 Alderwoman Joyce Arceneaux-Mathis’ salary. Mathis’ and Brown’s salaries are legislatively limited because of their state retirement. Mathis’ salary will stay at approximately $18,000, and Brown’s at approximately $32,000. Holloway said his salary will be $50,300 and Blough’s approximately $52,000-53,000.

Police and fire

The aldermen agreed to a 5-percent raise for sworn police officers and discussed cutting the officers’ 12-hour shifts down to eight-hour shifts.

Ward 2 Alderman Rickey Gray said when the shifts were previously increased from eight hours to 12 hours, 90 percent of the officers said they wanted the increase. Gray said the 12-hour shifts allow the officers more time off so they can get a second job.

Ward 3 Alderwoman Sarah Smith noted that the officers’ overtime pay was high and that the officers probably depend on that as part of their salaries.

Brown said he did not think that if the city gave the officers raises, it would not be impractical to cut the shifts down to eight hours.

Dillard and other aldermen noted that the advantage of eight-hour shifts would mean there would be more officers on the street because of scheduling. The aldermen also said shorter shifts would mean more alert officers.

Brown and the aldermen agreed that it was important to get the police officers’ salaries comparable to other cities, especially because of the high turnover rate at the police department, so the officers would not have to get second jobs.

Holloway suggested the city research what other cities its size paid police officers, and Mathis asked him to do that.

The police department’s budget proposal included two new officers, but the aldermen discussed keeping the size of the department the same. NPD currently has 44 officers, but the city budgets for 47.

Natchez Housing Authority Director Alan Ingram told the aldermen in June that he was not sure the authority would be able to provide the $60,000 it usually does for the salaries of two Natchez police officers, but Brown said Ingram informed him this week that NHA believes it will be able to provide $40,000.

Natchez Fire Chief Oliver Stewart’s proposed budget did not include raises for the firefighters, but Mathis, who is head of the fire committee, said the firefighters deserved raises.

It would cost approximately $100,000-$110,000 for a 5-percent raise for firefighters.

Brown said the city would calculate the figures for police and fire raises and finalize the raises at a later budget meeting.

Natchez Public Works

The public works budget included a $160,000 increase 5-percent raise for employees who have not had raises in the last year or so. Brown said after the meeting the raises will be looked at on a case-by-case basis.

The budget also proposed hiring two new employees, purchasing new equipment including a newer dump truck and a pickup truck.

Brown said public works has paid off the street sweeper, so the $27,000 per year note on that will retire with the end of this fiscal year, which he said will allow the department to purchase a new pickup truck.

Brown said he has already instructed Public Works Supervisor Justin Dollar to get estimates on a new truck.

City Engineer, David Gardner, requested $2,400 to employ former public works director Richard Burke to do the city’s street inventory. Gardner said Thursday the $2,400 will pay Burke $12.50 per hour for approximately two weeks to ride and assess the streets with a staff member. Remaining funds in that budget line item will be used to gradually update the street inventory program on an as-needed basis throughout the remaining year, Gardner said.

Brown also requested that Burke train Dollar, who was recently hired as head of public works.

The aldermen requested that the money for Burke’s services be put in public works’ budget instead of the engineering department’s budget to make sure they had oversight of the money.

Taxes

Brown mentioned the possibility of a tax increase at the end of the budget meeting, but the aldermen did not discuss it in great detail.

Brown said after the meeting raising taxes is a possibility but would be carefully considered before any decisions are made at forthcoming budget meetings.

Other news from the meeting:

• The board met in executive session for approximately 10 minutes to discuss a personnel matter in the city clerk’s office.

• The aldermen added $50,000 to the budget in anticipation of hiring an accountant for the city clerk’s office.

The aldermen are scheduled to adopt a budget at their Sept. 11 meeting.

  • Anonymous

    Okay, who wants to meet to organize a citizen’s group to oppose this bullsh*t??!!  I am sick to death of it all.  They want their old salaries back. Wahhhhh!! Then they want to raise taxes. Welcome to the Brown Recovery Era- “Bringing Natchez back to its’ glory days”. Meaning??  Taxes and bullcr*p. So we have a surplus, and they immediately want to spend it!!!!  Have you not been paying attention to the plight of Vidalia??
    FOLKS=====  WE MUST ORGANIZE AND OPPOSE!!!!
    Since taking a 10% pay cut, how many of our aldermen had to sign up for gov’t assistance? Did any of them want for anything?
    Just bullsh*t.

  • Anonymous

    Very well said… I do think fire and rescue deserve a raise but as for politicians and  the rest NO…. i guess the elected officials here just do not understand that money and economy is in the toilet and you can raise taxes all you want but over all that does not mean the people will have it in the end. We are strapped to the max cost of living continues to rise and wages and work is very limited…. I do agree with you 100% we do need  to take a stand and oppose all this crap…. not only local but nation wide.

  • Anonymous

    Well, ya’ll elected him and the board. Now the fun starts. Better get a real good grip on your wallet because these elected buffoons are going to be trying real hard to get what is left of your money, if any. They should take a bigger pay cut and give that money in a raise of 10 to 15 percent for the police and firefighters. At least they work to help the city.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    Well,  city folks got what you elected when you put B. Brown back as mayor of spending and a raiser of taxes but now you got to live with it!!! Didn’t notice a thing about the  city fire department charging the county in all that giving raises and more taxes!! Thank you Lord for getting my family in the country or county that we the people will put our foot on the necks of the BOS on such crap and quickly without even thinking huh”??!!!

  • Anonymous

    Our Mayor and Aldermen salaries are way out of line.  Their salaries are more in line with a city of 100,000+.  We are 17,500 and shrinking.  This is beyond ridiculous.  They want to reach deeper in our pockets so they can make as much as the Jackson City Council?????  The Democrat ran a story once showing what Mayors and BOA make in other MS cities and towns.  I wonder if they’ll do that again with BB back in office.

  • Anonymous

    damn right,, raise taxes, give yourself a raise for a part time job, may as well kick up your benefit plan too>  crap, don’t stop there,, go head and make yourselves the kings.. and we will put your asses back on the street in four years…. if butch croaks in office, he looked awful tired and worn in the picture the other day, you can bet our pro temp will be raising taxes to raise her salary, so you better get ready,, taxes up, public ELECTED officials salaries up,, 

  • Anonymous

    poor natchez, hope issac didn’t do you much harm, you already seem to be on the verge of collaspe.  maybe jacob will come along next and sweep all your enemies out to sea.  hang in there.

  • Anonymous

    You budgeted for 47 Police Officers but you still have only 44. NO!!! YOU DO NOT KEEP THE NPD UNDER-STAFFING THE SAME while you give yourself a raise!!!
    You can’t find enough resources to cut the grass. YOU DO NOT GIVE OUT RAISES when you can’t budget money to cut ALL of the grass during the summer!!!

    So, now you want to raise taxes…that’s fine, OK, go ahead. Now, what do we tax payers get for this extra money you are about to receive? 
    Don’t tell me it’s for raises. You said there was plenty of money left over.
    Don’t tell me it’s for the annual Fiscal Expenses Loan. You said that’s covered too.
    Don’t tell me it’s for an Accountant. I think the “outside” accountant identified quite nicely what was wrong with their last Audit. 
    Don’t tell me it’s for the collection of overdue fines. If you collected the fines, you wouldn’t need to raise taxes.

    So, tell me again BOA, why do you want to raise taxes???

  • Anonymous

    so what happens if Mr. Carby finds out the alderman did not have the power to cut the Mayor’s, City Judge’s, and City Clerk’s salaries?  Will the aldermen have to give it back?  Aldermen positions are not full time but the Mayor, City Judge and City Clerk are to my understanding.  I personally hope the police get raises.

  • Anonymous

    One minor error in your post, overdue fines are County Justice Court, not City Municipal – you see daily contempt of court citations in city for delinquent fines, but not in the county.  Otherwise, good post.

  • Anonymous

    The Police Department needs more than a 5% raise to keep them from having a second job; when the starting salary of an officer is $24,120 and the 2012 poverty level in America is $23,050!  An after 30 years - officers get to look forward to their salary increasing by $7,780, to a whopping $31,900.  Please take into consideration, this is gross salary - before taxes & medical insurance.  With salaries that are only $1,070 above poverty level, the city needs to allow officers the opportunity to work overtime or work shifts that allow them to have a second job.  The city needs to allow officers, of all ranks, opportunities to work overtime in lieu of receiving comp time because comp time don’t pay their bills.  Natchez Police Officers must love their job & community, otherwise, they would they agree to serve & protect for poverty level pay.

  • Anonymous

    The Police Department needs more than a 5% raise to keep them from having a second job; when the starting salary of an officer is $24,120 and the 2012 poverty level in America is $23,050! An after 30 years – officers get to look forward to their salary increasing by $7,780, to a whopping $31,900. Please take into consideration, this is gross salary – before taxes & medical insurance. With salaries that are only $1,070 above poverty level, the city needs to allow officers the opportunity to work overtime or work shifts that allow them to have a second job. The city needs to allow officers, of all ranks, opportunities to work overtime in lieu of receiving comp time because comp time don’t pay their bills. Natchez Police Officers must love their job & community, otherwise, they would they agree to serve & protect for poverty level pay.

  • Anonymous

    Mea culpa  (due to my frustration with the article).  Due to adopt a budget on 911…an omen?

  • Anonymous

    IT’S ABOUT TIME. SO TIRED OF THE COUNTY GETTING ALL OF THE GOODIES. DIDN’T SEE ALL OF THIS NEGATIVE AS LONG AS THE COUNTY WAS SUCKING IN ALL OF THE CASH.. MR MAYOR WHILE YOU ARE AT IT, THROW IN A COUPLE OF TAHOES, ONE FOR YOU TO SCOUT AROUND IN, POLICE CHIEF, AND FIRE CHIEF. NOW LET ME SEE IF I GOT THESE DOLLAR FELLOWS RIGHT. ONE DOLLAR IS OVER THE COUNTY DEPT. AND ANOTHER DOLLAR IS OVER PUBLICS WORKS. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? IF SO, THEY GOT TO BE RELATED, BECAUSE IT’S IMPOSSIBLE FOR TWO DIFFERENCE SET OF DOLLARS TO BE LIVING IN THE SAME AREA. DO N.A.C. HAVE A HIRING POLICY? THE POLICE DEPERTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT GO ABOUT THERE JOB SO SMOOLY YOU HEARLY KNOW THEY EXIST.  

  • Anonymous

    Raise the salary for the firemen and first responders, no politicians.  Politicians have already LOST the will to serve and actually want to make their elected positions jobs for total profit and hardly any service.  In a time of much taxation with little representation, IMO, those who really do life threatening, physical work, need the raises.   Also, have we learned NOTHING from what’s going on across the water?

  • Anonymous

    Well said. Couldn’t agree more.

  • Anonymous

    There are currently 217 homes for sale here in Natchez, this number has been steady over the last 6 1/2 years I have lived here! Natchez is hemorrhaging tax payers and has been for over a decade. And yet they want to raise taxes on the few that remain, SERIOUSLY! Their should be NO salary increases as the population does NOT support the numbers of the shrinking population. My property tax and insurance run over $8,000 a year, that alone is too much, if they raise the property tax again there will be 218 homes for sale…..This mayor and the aldermen need to figure out a way to keep the city running without bleeding the taxpayers further, that is their job …. So do it!  

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