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Don’t end the talks about shooting

Published 12:01am Thursday, December 27, 2012

The funerals are over. The small size of the caskets underscores the huge hurt the nation feels after the Connecticut school shooting just more than a week ago.

Life will begin to slowly move back into a more normal pace for the friends and families of the victims.

But our nation runs the risk of allowing time and complacency to prevent us from a real discussion over what, if anything, we can do to reduce the risk of repeating such violence against our schools.

Sadly, both sides seem to scream at one another with their fingers in their ears — adamant that their position is the only viable one.

On one side some Americans believe tighter gun laws are the answer.

On the other side other Americans believe the answer is more guns, not fewer.

The discussion that we need to have should consider all angles.

First, we must be more capable of providing more security to protect our schools from random intruders.

We have more security at the county courthouse than we have protecting our most precious citizens.

Reasonable gun control measures should be discussed as well, though honestly, short of mass confiscation — which we oppose — most gun laws simply limit non-criminal citizens. However, we’re open to a non-political discussion of the matter.

Lastly, we must address the care, treatment and monitoring of the mentally ill.

We’ve made the matter taboo to discuss, and in looking the other way, we are enabling people to slip through the cracks.

This is the most slippery of all slopes because many, many people battle mental illness and never turn to violence, so we must use care not to paint all with a big brush.

But we also must not allow our fear of offending someone block us from remembering the pain of seeing so many tiny caskets carried away and the commitment that we must end this violence.

 

 

 

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    Talk is cheap so gun control has got to happen with other things to control this from ever happening!! Again , we are suppose to be civilized people with morals huh”??!

  • Anonymous

    People have a very short memory. If it’s not happening in their front yards at that moment, it’s forgotten, and the band plays on.

  • Anonymous

    “YOU ARE A TRIP”. WHAT SIDE ARE YOU ON ? WE KNOW, THE N.R.A. SIDE> MORE GUNS<. YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WIMPS I'M TALKING ABOUT ALWAYS SHAKING IN YOUR BOOTS. LET ME ASK YOU JUST ONE SIMPLE QUESTION SENSE YOU THINK YOU ALWAYS KNOW IT ALL. IF THEY ARM THE SCHOOLS, WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THE TEACHERS AND GUARDS WANT FLIP-THERE-WIGS AND SPRAY THE SCHOOLS ? SURLY THERE WOULD BE MORE CASUALTY BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE AMONG THE KIDS. THEY ARE NO MORE THAN PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THE GUARDS AND TEACHERS ARE SOME HOW DIFFERENT, THAN YOU ARE JUST AS CRAZY AS THE ONES THAT'S DOING THE SHOOTING. IN THIS COUNTRY, NOTHING CHANGES UNTIL SOMEONE OR SOMETHING PAYS THE ULTIMATE PRICE. KIDS GET KILL EVERY DAY IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT BECAUSE OF WHERE, HOW MANY AND WHAT COLOR, THAT BLIND EYE IS ALWAYS TURNED. GUN LAW IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE HAD YEARS AGO, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE AMONG US THAT PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. THAT GROUP IS BETTER KNOWN AS: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE N.R.A. LET ME ASK YOU JUST ONE MORE THING MR. MAN. WHY HAVEN'T THE REPUBLICAN GOT THE MESSAGE YET THAT THE AMERICANS PEOPLE HAVE VOTED THEM OUT ? THAT MEANS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT THERE CRO-MAGNON IDEAL ANY MORE. WHAT'S TAKING THEM SO LONG TO REALIZE THAT ? NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A BALL OF CONFUSION. I KNOW WITH THIS SHOOTING, IF THERE'S NO GUN LAW PASTED, THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE. THAT ENDS MY TALK ABOUT SHOOTING.

  • Anonymous

    “YOU ARE A TRIP”. WHAT SIDE ARE YOU ON ? WE KNOW, THE N.R.A. SIDE> MORE GUNS<. YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE WIMPS I'M TALKING ABOUT ALWAYS SHAKING IN YOUR BOOTS. LET ME ASK YOU JUST ONE SIMPLE QUESTION SENSE YOU THINK YOU ALWAYS KNOW IT ALL. IF THEY ARM THE SCHOOLS, WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THE TEACHERS AND GUARDS WANT FLIP-THERE-WIGS AND SPRAY THE SCHOOLS ? SURLY THERE WOULD BE MORE CASUALTY BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT THERE AMONG THE KIDS. THEY ARE NO MORE THAN PEOPLE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THAT THE GUARDS AND TEACHERS ARE SOME HOW DIFFERENT, THAN YOU ARE JUST AS CRAZY AS THE ONES THAT'S DOING THE SHOOTING. IN THIS COUNTRY, NOTHING CHANGES UNTIL SOMEONE OR SOMETHING PAYS THE ULTIMATE PRICE. KIDS GET KILL EVERY DAY IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT BECAUSE OF WHERE, HOW MANY AND WHAT COLOR, THAT BLIND EYE IS ALWAYS TURNED. GUN LAW IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE HAD YEARS AGO, BUT THERE'S A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE AMONG US THAT PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. THAT GROUP IS BETTER KNOWN AS: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE N.R.A. LET ME ASK YOU JUST ONE MORE THING MR. MAN. WHY HAVEN'T THE REPUBLICAN GOT THE MESSAGE YET THAT THE AMERICANS PEOPLE HAVE VOTED THEM OUT ? THAT MEANS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T WANT THERE CRO-MAGNON IDEAL ANY MORE. WHAT'S TAKING THEM SO LONG TO REALIZE THAT ? NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL A BALL OF CONFUSION. I KNOW WITH THIS SHOOTING, IF THERE'S NO GUN LAW PASTED, THERE WILL NEVER BE ONE. THAT ENDS MY TALK ABOUT SHOOTING.

  • Anonymous

    Washington is very busy at the moment with the fiscal cliff – on vacation!

  • Anonymous

    Whew, I’m glad that is over. But I thought is was Crow-magning with all the other typos.

  • Anonymous

    You are considerably mis-characterizing the right side of the debate. The bottom line is that people should have the right to protect themselves and children no matter where they are. The “more guns” nonsense is quite disingenuous. We send our kids to school and advertize to the world that they are defenseless then wring our hands and cry when some nut-case shows up and has easy pickings. Who gets the blame? A freaking inanimate object gets the blame. The NRA gets the blame. The political right gets the blame.

    You know, back when Henry Ford was working to mass produce the automobile, if he had known what we know now would it have ever been built? “Ladies and gentlemen of America, I have a new means of transportation available to you that will make you more independent and drastically cut your travel times. However, it will cost 40,000 lives a year, over 2,000 of which will be children.” If the real goal here is to save children’s lives, and I do not think for one second that it is, we would not allow them in moving vehicles. They are the number one killer of children. On the other hand, you have a better chance of winning the Powerball than having your child be killed in a mass shooting.

    If someone gets stabbed on a subway, nobody blames the knife. When a cheating husband gets run over by an angry wife, nobody blames the car. When people get beaten and kicked to death, nobody blames the shoes or the club. So on and so forth. However, when someone gets shot, the gun gets the blame. That is called a phobia, an irrational fear and it is completely illogical without reason. The killers of these kids are not the only people suffering from mental illness. The irrational fear of firearms is in itself one.

    All of those politicians pushing “gun control” (there really is no such thing, its people control) are protected by people with the very guns they wish to prevent law-abiding citizens from possessing. Hypocrisy at its finest. This is political opportunism, nothing more. Those poor kids weren’t even out of the school before the left was scrambling to put together their anti-gun talking points. Disgusting political opportunism with no real answers other than to push through more of the same old liberty-limiting legislation that has been proven to be completely ineffective. Nothing new from the left. “Never let a crisis go to waste” – Rahm Emanuel

  • Anonymous

    Why do you keep ignoring facts? We had more gun control. It was during the 90s when the crime rate in this country was at an all-time high. It did not help. The Columbine massacre happened right smack dab in the middle of the assault weapons ban. It did not prevent that horrendous murder spree. You are just regurgitating senseless leftist talking points without putting one iota of thought into the matter. I ask you for a third time, how EXACTLY will “gun control” keep criminals from murdering people?

  • Anonymous

    Who’s to say the Secret Service won’t flip their lids and spray the President? Better get rid of them just in case, huh? While we are at it, we’d better get rid of armed security at nuclear installations in case one of them goes nuts and riddles the place with bullets. No sense in stopping there, lets make sure the entire security industry is dismantled and that nobody in this country is allowed to be guarded by armed personnel. That would just be utopia wouldn’t it? Well, if you are a criminal or a moron, that is.

    Oh yeah, the President’s daughters go to a school with armed guards. In following your advice, the President should remove those guards since they might go nuts and kill his daughters. Be sure and tell him it was your idea that his kids be unprotected. Like you said, guards at school don’t work and are dangerous so I’m sure he’ll lead by example and make sure no guns are anywhere near his kids.

  • Anonymous

    Another way for Obama to promote socialism – take the economy over the fiscal cliff and make paupers out of the millionaires when the stock market tanks?

  • Anonymous

    Then we’d need “building control” after they all jump to their deaths. No “assault” buildings over 5 stories!!

  • Anonymous

    You were wrong about the rifle used in Newtown. He used that thing on the children and only used his hand gun to kill himself.

  • Anonymous

    There is an old saying that you don’t lock up from a thief. The lock only keeps an honest man honest. Well the same goes for guns. Removing the guns won’t stop a murderer from killing.

    Address the real culprit, mental illness!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget these are millionaires – they won’t get any sympathy. We really need “assault” cliff controls real soon.

  • Anonymous

    I have read later reports that he used the rifle but none that he only used the pistol on himself. My initial comments came via CNN, “the most trusted name in news”. Guess that’s what I get for reading CNN. I did read that he reloaded numerous times so smaller magazines would not have helped.

    Are you suggesting the kids would be less dead if he had used a 9mm pistol throughout instead of a 5.56mm rifle? I fail to see the logic in that. He was shooting fish in a barrel, thanks in no small part to the school being a “gun-free zone”.

    Regardless of any of that, he was in violation of numerous gun laws so they did nothing to stop the shooting. Laws don’t stop criminals, they just give a leagal means by which to prosecute them AFTER they have committed crimes.

  • http://www.natchezdemocrat.com khakirat

    You sound like a educated person and should know the answer to this easy statement so give it your best!!

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    Why do you keep ignoring facts? We had more gun control. It was during the 90s when the crime rate in this country was at an all-time high. It did not help. The Columbine massacre happened right smack dab in the middle of the assault weapons ban. It did not prevent that horrendous murder spree. You are just regurgitating senseless leftist talking points without putting one iota of thought into the matter. I ask you for a third time, how EXACTLY will “gun control” keep criminals from murdering people?

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  • Anonymous

    Blaming guns for shooting an innocent person, is like blaming the fork for making you fat. Lets find a cure for cancer , Aids, heart disease,diabetes and Mental Illness the real concerns of our country. The only way to stop a Bad Guy with a gun, is a Good Guy with a Gun. The Pearl Ms shooter was stopped by the Asst Principal who took matters in his own hands and retrieved a pistol from his own car and Saved many children’s lives on that day, but you won’t hear Obama mention that.

  • Anonymous

    I do not know and I do not think you do either. Matter of fact, I have yet to read anything from anyone who laid out a logical argument of how more gun control laws will protect a single person. What I do see is the “Underwear Gnome” plan. (Google it.)

    1.) Implement more gun control
    2.) ????
    3.) Utopia!

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