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photo by Destiney Robb

Natchez Police Oficer Jimmy Molphus arrests Harold Brunston Wednesday after Brunston’s dogs attacked and killed a dog in his neighborhood.

Dog owner arrested after pit-bulls attack, kill dog

Published Thursday, December 6, 2007

NATCHEZ — Johnny Rodriguez is a mad, mad man.

On Wednesday morning his boxer, Duke, was mauled to death by his neighbor’s pack of pit-bulls.

After killing Duke, the same dogs then tried to attack construction workers at the home across the street from Rodriguez’s residence on Marquette Street.

Johnny Rodriguez demonstrates how two pit bulls killed his boxer, Duke, Wednesday morning in Natchez.

Photo by Destiney Robb

Johnny Rodriguez demonstrates how two pit bulls killed his boxer, Duke, Wednesday morning in Natchez.

Surprisingly, Rodriguez said, a very similar incident happened approximately three weeks ago.

Rodriguez said a few weeks ago he heard barking outside; when he investigated he saw the same dogs attacking his other boxer Angel.

Rodriguez said Duke defended Angle and was then attacked.

For the next 25 minutes Rodriguez fought with the dogs in an effort to release their grip from Duke’s throat.

Rodriguez said it took several minutes of beating and choking the attacking dogs before they released Duke.

Rodriguez was also bitten in the fight.

After filing charges Rodriguez said he felt confident the matter would have been rectified and the dogs killed.

“This should not have happened,” he said.

In fact after he filed charges against the dogs owner, Harold Brunston, he also spoke with the Judge Jim Blough who would have signed Brunston’s arrest warrant.

On Wednesday afternoon Blough said he did not know why the warrant went unsigned for so long.

Blough said when he heard of Wednesday’s incident he immediately signed the warrant for Brunston’s arrest.

Just hours after the attacks Brunston was arrested as Rodriguez and his neighbors stood dazed in the street.

Even though Brunston was arrested, Rodriguez is still mad.

“This is nothing new,” he said.

Rodriguez said since Brunston took ownership of the three pit-bulls, he has been taunted by them.

Rodriguez said Brunston would routinely allow the dogs, while leashed, to provoke his dogs at their front gate.

“They fight those dogs,” he said.

Rodriguez said he has seen Brunston and others fighting dogs in the front yard of their home.

Two of the three dogs bore scars both new and old.

One dog had numerous cuts and what appeared to be an eye infection, while another, with tightly cropped ears, had scars both new and old on its face.

An animal control officer at the scene said the dogs will be killed by the end of the day.

Natchez Police Chief Mike Mullins said Brunston was charged with a violation of the leash law and arrested for the warrant originally issued on Nov. 4.

On Wednesday evening Mullins said Brunston was released on $237 bond.

Comments

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on December 5, 2007 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sue him and make him pay for your Dr. bills and vet bills. I have no pity for sub humans who fight dogs. Even Vick didn't get away with that.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

do you see what happens to a dog after it kills???? it's put to DEATH that day!!
but a human can kill and they are slapped on the hand!!
i'm just using examples! animal or human WHATEVER!!! if those dogs were brought up to fight then that's what they were doing! what they were taught! but a human grows up learning right from wrong... choosing to do wrong anyway and still gets away with it! grr!! (for those who know me, know what i'm getting at here! it's late! and i'm already ticked that i'm not snoring up a 'melody' right now!!!)

Posted by NatchezHighGraduate1993 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

While I do not advocate dogfighting, the Democrat is just wrong on so many levels for posting the picture above of the arrest.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why?? Everyone who gets arrested gets their name in the paper. Why not the face to go with it?
If it shames them GOOD. Maybe they will think before doing the crime.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

((jammin1))) you are on a role tonight!! i agree with you on this one too!! haha, that guy looks like a deer caught in head lights!

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This fool needs some punishment to fit his crime. The arrest , take some money and stand on a corner with a sign that says" I don't care what animals feel because I am an animal myself put me out of my misery."

Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am GLAD they put this guys picture in the paper. I am one that thinks all arrest should have a photo right next to their name.

This crime, it absolutely makes me ill. How can people train their dogs to kill? My stomach is turning over this.

Posted by flylo (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Every Pitbull owner should be required to obtain libility insurance if they want to keep this type of dog. And maybe even register them as we do our handguns.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I used to have dobermans and when my insurance man came to check out my house for coverage the dogs scared him. I had to have a waiver on the dogs to get coverage. Now I have a Lab that will lick you to death.

Posted by reb1843 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I own 15 horses, more cats than that, and 11 dogs, all but 1 having been 'rescued' or dropped off by city folks to my place in the country. No dog is born 'bad.' They are taught that way by their owners. My dogs will lick you silly, roll over for a tummy rub, etc. However, I do believe they would protect me against critters - four legged or 2-legged - if they thought I would be harmed.
I love to hunt, but absolutely hate animal abuse of any kind. The clown in the pic is one who should be held financially and criminally accountable for the actions of his dogs.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OH NO he works at Stines? They have the nicest workers at Stines...that is where I got my Christmas tree and 2 guys, can't tell if he is one or not, delivered it the next day and were fabulous! Hate people who raise pit bulls to kill!!

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am going to get off the path here for just a second. I am going to rant about our Animal Control in Adams County. I called for assistance in getting a wild stray dog out of my fenced in back yard. That area is for my personal pets. A Trap was set and after two days, the trap was taken away empty, with the wild stray dog still in my yard. Then, it got in my house and we trapped it in a room and called for assistance from Animal Control. At which point, I was told they do not enter homes to get animals. Hmmmm... I don't know anything about this stray who makes himself right at home in my yard, even brave enough to enter it. What if this animal carried disease? So here I am without the tools of Animal control left to get this animal out of my home and out of my fenced in yard. So with blanket in hand I throw it over the dog and drag it out my front door. Now yesterday he's back in my fenced in yard. This morning he's on my front steps. You cannot get near this dog he growls and runs. The only opportunity to capture this animal slipped away when Animal Control refused to enter my home and get it. Something needs to be done about an Animal Control agent won’t even pick up a stray when someone else has already done the hard part of trapping it.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wow LdyBreez if Animal Control won't help you in this matter what are you to do? WHO do you call when they won't help? I mean it IS an animal that needs "controlled" so who DO you call? I am sorry for not having an answer for you but will think on this one.

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

you might want to pull your pants up Harold Brunston. Not a good look when going to jail.

Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That man looked very shocked in this picture....So is it a fact that he fought these dogs or just a man saying he did??? if it's a fact then he needs to pay for that!! Poor dogs are like children and old people in away no way to defend themselves from crazy people...If you hurt a dog my way of thinking is you would harm a child or a old person...You can't be a nice person if you fight dogs....Kinda like that saying if your friend is nice to you but rude to a waitress/waiter they are not a nice person..

Posted by thetinman (Keith Reynolds) on December 6, 2007 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bet he doesn't have a job with Stine's anymore. The look in the guys eyes like a deer in the headlights looks!!!!! So loosing his job, Pretty sure if employed by Stine's? by shirt he is wearing. Loosing his other meal ticket, Fighting Boxer, he will be facing punitive damages from fines, personal law suites and, maybe some jail time!!! I hear fighting dog's is a big game here in the county. Hope this starts a crack down and get this situation out of our county and our State but being a border town, our neighbors across the river, hope this helps you out also.

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

gottabehappy it's not a good look for Stine either... Wonder how they like the advertisement?

Posted by stateofnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You never know. Had this guy load our Christmas tree a few weeks ago. Have been to Stines many times as well and he's been pretty cool and helpful. Just goes to show you how much you really know about someone.

Posted by itsawounderfullife (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think a person that can sit there and get a kick out of watching dogs fight till one dies is sick, sick in the head that is and needs to be dealt with as a risk to not only animal but people to. Thats just sick!!!

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my guess is ------not so much

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

reb1843 I used to think like you that no animal is born bad but I have seen, owned, and raised pets that for some reason do bite and are mean. It is just in their nature and this can be any breed of dog. Kind of like a horse that kicks all you can do is tie a red ribbon on their tail so everyone knows they kick and look out for it.

Posted by genlee (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pitbulls should not be allowed in Adams County. They are only good for one thing, fighting. The only people that want those ugly dogs are of gangster mentality. Open season on the pitbulls. If you see one just put a bullet between the eyes. Everyone will be better off for it.

Posted by MamaC (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to agree that if you know anyone that fights these dogs, you should turn them in. I had one attack my daughter years ago, we ended up in the ER getting a technous shot and stitches (at our expense!). But I do have to commend the Vidalia PD, they did take and quarentine this animal and then he was put down. There has been far too many attacks and deaths on people (especially small children) once they are trained to fight. This should be stopped, but the first step is to hold the owner responsible for crimes committed. Maybe they should be listed in the paper along with the child molesters, so you know if they live in your neighborhoold. I mean really, this is a dangerous situation for families with children. We need to get a handle on this!

Posted by SIOUXLADY (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TOO BAD SO SAD. I wonder if he has a TV. The news of VICK!!!!!!!!! This guys is going to have to go to the STEW POT for meals. He is not going to be able to eat after this.

As for the person w/ the Animal Control issue. I'd say call 911 and tell them that you have a gun and your are going to shoot this dog. That will solve the situation QUICK.

I HAVE NO PITY FOR THIS MAN. I have a chihuahua and when I walk him I carry a can of MACE AND A KNIFE, JUST IN CASE.
I AM ANIMAL FRIENDLY BUT NOT LETTING MY GUARD DOWN ON THIS BREED AT ALL.

Posted by reb1843 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Beam-me-up, I train and show horses, altho' I'm not a 'cowboy.' I find that horses always follow their alpha leader, those they can trust. Horses kick out of fear or to establish pecking order, not out of 'mean-ness.' Same with dogs. Unless they have some inherent mental illness, they are not normally vicious. There are many pit bulls, weimers, rots, etc. that are gentle as lambs. Just my thoughts on the matter, that's all.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I WAS THERE AT THE SCENE, WITH MY FAMILY AND I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS NOT NICE.. MY MOTHER WHO WAS WATCHING THE DOGS, MAKING SURE THEY DID NOT GET OUT OF SIGHT, WAS IN ONE OF THE DOGS SIGHTS TILL IT WAS CALLED OFF BY ONE OF THE MEN ON THE PORCH IT STOPED DEAD IN ITS TRACKS BEFORE REACHING MY MOM! I ALSO KNOW THE OWNER OF DUKE AND ANGEL, YOU CAN'T GET DOGS ANY BETTER THAN THEM.... DUKE WAS LIKE A BIG BABY, ANGEL TOO. IT IS SO SAD THAT DUKE HAD TO DIE FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN.
WE AS HOME OWNERS IN THIS TOWN NEED TO TAKE A STAND AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT.. I HAVE A DOG THAT IS HALF PITT BULL AND SHE HAS NEVER TURNED A VIOLENT EYE TO ANYONE, LOVES MY KIDS AND WILL PROTECT MY HOME AS ANY GOOD DOG WILL, BUT SHE IS NOT A FIGHTING DOG! YOU DO HAVE TO RAISE THEM TO FIGHT. AND I SAW THESE DOGS THEY WERE FIGHTERS!!! NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! THE SAD THING IS THEY REALLY COULDN'T HELP IT BUT ONCE THEY FIGHT IT IS THERE FOREVER!!!!
ALL I CAN SAY IS JUSTICE WAS NOT SERVED, THESE PEOPLE NEED TO DO HARD TIME AND PAY BIG FINES AND NEVER BE ABLE TO OWN DOGS PERIOD!!!
BUT THE OWNER WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PAY WHAT DUKE WAS WORTH, NEVER!! HE CAN'T BE REPLACED AND NEITHER COULD MY MOM OR THE LITTLE OLD LADY DOWN THE STREET OR ANY OF OUR CHILDREN....
PEOPLE NEED TO GET NEW HOBBIES!! LET A DOG BE A DOG NOT A WEAPON! AFTER THIS I WISH I COULD START A ANTI DOG FIGHTING GROUP HERE IN TOWN..... OH AND THE NEW MARSHAL THATS HERE MAYBE CAN HELP OUT THIS IS A FEDERIAL OFFENSE!!! THE GUY ARRESTED NEEDS TO GO VISIT THE STATE PENN A FEW DAYS AND SEE WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE TREATED LIKE A DOG!!!!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

you are absolutely right reb1843! Case in point...my elderly parents live in Texas and have 2 rotts they bought initially for protection but that got blown out of the water! They are as you raise them...treat 'em with kindness and they will give that back. Same thing with a young child as they are being raised.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I ALSO SAW DUKE AND THAT WAS THE SICKEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN.. I KNOW DOG BITES ARE BAD BUT I HAD NO IDEA THAT THEY COULD DO WHAT WAS DONE TO DUKE!
SICK, SICK, SICK!!!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you momof2!! I also think this guy and all the others in this town and the county for that matter NEED to get PRISON time for this!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's so sad is that these dogs have gotten a bad name because of owners like Vick and others who have abused them and turned them into monsters. I have a pittbull that I found as a puppy on the side of the road. He was in terrible shape and I just knew he would die but after taking really good care of him, he managed to survive. I really have a soft spot for these dogs and I for one don't consider myself a gangster!! I guessI really feel sorry for them because they usually end up in the hands of some loser that mistreats them and trains them to attack. If you treat your dog with kindness and take really good care of them...for the most part they will not attack...unless provoked. I do agree that alot of pittbull owners use them for their own sick reasons and own so many of them that they can't afford to feed them and these dogs have a pretty big appetite. Now just imagine if you were mistreated, caged, and hungry..How would you act?

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It seem to me that everybody in against Vick, for dog fighting. I am will aware that dog fighiting is illegal, but to me it seem that people are more concern about dogs than humans. Vick is not the only person that committed this crime, but because he is black and is a professor football player; he is not the worse person in the world. I am sure if the law would look closer I am sure they would fine some of the other race doing the same thing. Now to respone to the arrest made in this article. I just wonder if the neighbor dogs had attacked Mr. Brunston's dog what would the outcome had been? Mr. Rodriguez is white. We migh as well face it, whether or not we want to admitt to it, RACE is still a major factors in a lot of cases.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I still stand by what I said. Some animals are mean by nature all can be made to be mean if you treat them bad enough. I have had well trained dogs that were mean when I wanted them to be but a few were mean when they wanted to . It is a catchy phrase to say there are no bad animals just bad owners but some are bred for a specific purpose and that is what is in their blood.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh Brother, race ya well I guess we are racist against pit bull instead of bulldogs. Man only in Natchez would some fool play a race card in a dog attack.

Posted by lookingout (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

genlee i have to disagree with you totaly...i had a bulldog that looked really mean but would not harm nobody...not all bulldogs are bad just because they are bulldogs...i was bite by a dog when i was younger but it was a mutt not even no bulldog in it....if you think all bulldogs should be shot then in that case all dogs should be shot all dogs will bit they all have teeth....a small dog is usually your most vicious they just cant do that much damage cause they arent that big but you dont want them shot...also i think bulldogs are pretty dogs not ugly

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother whites DO NOT do this for sport so THAT is why you always see the Michael Vicks and the Harold Brunston in the headlines!! Whites do not do this!!!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BROTHER2BROTHER YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT MR. RODRIGUEZ, I KNOW HIM WELL!! IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE US OWNED THES DOGS... DUKE WAS LIKE HIS SON, NOT A DOG TO HIM AT ALL... RACE MAY BE A FACTOR IN MOST CASES BUT NOT THIS ONE AND MR. RODRIGUEZ WILL NOT LET THIS GO TILL JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED!!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother 2 brother, I myself am black. You are correct, Vick is being prosecuted because of who he is and what he does but I, as a black woman, am tired of pro athletes, entertainers, and others in the spotlight acting a fool when you know you are in the public eye. I think what he did was very STUPID for a person who has accomplished so much. I pray it doesn't destroy him because he is human and we are not perfect but DANG Vick. As my grandma use to tell me growing up in Natchez,"If you don't have any sense..at least act like you got some." I really didn't want to say DANG but I didn't want my comment removed!! LOL!!

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whites are no better than blacks. Whites kill, steal, use drugs and do the same thing that blacks do. But when it come to punishment than "Whites" make their on laws; there are different law for "WHITES" And I stand on what I said early and now "The reason is white is white and black is black". This is my opinion, and I am not going to change it.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

good for you kayce! As a white woman I have NEVER heard so much screaming the race card in my life!!! NO BODY no matter what race should be screaming race card in this matter...it simply doesn't fit!!!!!!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG.... It's ironic to me that only blacks see this as a race issue.... The cop that arrested him was black, what does that mean??? Do you think maybe he was just doing his job, maybe??? Gimmie a break... I can't stop rolling my eyes.... When you are a celebrity, you are in the spot light, like it or not... It is no secret, you know that going in. So if you choose to risk your image but doing what you know is wrong and illegal, that's the chance you take.... My son loved Michael Vick... He even had his football number, until this happened.....

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whites make their own laws???? OMG

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To you, angiestaylor, first of all you do know me, but for the record let me tell you, yes I am black and proud to be. Now you child is wearing the shirt you brought him, because from reading your commett, it sound to me you would rather have a dog closer to you than a black person. And do yourself a favor, if and when you go to church ask you pastor about HATE, the Bible say "we should not HATE, but again I guess it is an exception to you. Remember the law" laws for WHITES and laws for BLACKS"

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OK PEOPLE THIS IS ABOUT FIGHTING DOG NOT BLACK OR WHITE AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WHITE PEOPLE DO THIS THIS ALSO THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN CAUGHT!! THEY WANT TO DO IT TO FIT IN WITH PEOPLE THEY "HANG" WITH!! BUT BLACK OR WHITE THIS HAPPENED TO THE WRONG PERSON! AND HE WILL NOT LET IT GO, NO MATTER WHAT!! I KNOW HIS PERSONALY AND IF OTHERS TREATED THEIR DOGS LIKE HE DOES THERE WOULD BE NO FIGHTING DOGS!! ANYWHERE!!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hate is such an ugly and BIG word.... Nobody should hate anybody or anything..... There is not room for anything else when hate is used...

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to know what the laws are for whites and the laws for blacks....are there 2 different books of those??? I would like to get a copy of them.... BUT you may have to go back to the stinking 1900's to find them..... HELLO.... this is 2007!!!

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've always said ignorance is bliss, well quite frankly Brother2Brother, you fit the catagory...

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother YOU are showing more HATE than anyone on here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lowrider, I accept that from, I understand what you're are saying. And I also understand that "IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE", OKAY. You are number one on the list, and I have no problem being number two (2) as long as you are first.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree there are different laws, for the rich we have no laws that a lawyer can't get around, for the poor what do they have to lose they get a free lawyer but woe to the working people if you offend or get out of line the law will eat you alive and in the end, innocent or not they own you.

Posted by itsawounderfullife (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My goodness makeing it another white vs.black issue. Im sorry sayitoutloud not long ago there was a fighting ring busted in La which consisted of whites. Its not just one race thats doing it its sickos that are doing it. I think Vick deserves everything that comes his way, WHITE OR BLACK its against the law!!!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey beammeupscotty..... does that mean there are different laws for whites and blacks???? or just for different income levels? I agree that there are injustices in the world... But OJ is black. Money can buy you alot of things... even freedom at times... but that has NOTHING to do with the "race issue"...

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, WHITE PEOPLE are very quilty of chicken fighting!! yes i said it right.. WHITES fight chickens majority of the times... it's all the same! it's senseless, animals aren't here to fight for their lives!! just like WHITE'S aren't here in this day of time to hear THE RACE ISSUE! GEEZZ!! come on ((BROTHER)) it's dogs... they didn't see the color! they saw a prey.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sayitlound I don' t hate anybody, and I don't know anybody of this site. But I am an opinionated person, and that is my opinion. Whether we like it out not ;it is the TRUTH.
And to theturthhurts, if you really want to know the different laws, just look at our judical system, just look around you everyday, it is very obvious.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hate is a strong word...I can remember that was one of those words that got my tongue a good plucking. How many of you ever had your tongue plucked..not a good feeling. Momof2, I agree with the not being caught part. My heart goes out to that dog owner. Survive, that's my dog's name, is the only dog Ive ever owned. My family and I simply love him and anyone who has ever come to our house loves him too.

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pit bulls have been banned from several cities and states, no matter if your hispanic, oriental, black, and/or white, if you own one you are eventually asking for trouble. This breed has always been a very aggressive breed. The truth of the matter is that it occured and actions were taking regardless of race. But, for someone to throw the race card up in this discussion, is nothing more than a racist himself, who is bored with their life and just looking for something or someone to hate. Hoping that they can make someone as miserable as you they are.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Heck, I'm an American Indian what do I know about white and black. I think both are crazy.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

true dat!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Now White People..Why would you fight that delicious animal? Now that's just racist because everyone knows we, as black people love chicken. I mean those chicken haven't done anything to you. Okay, It's a joke just in case someone is sensitive on the forum. I’m actually laughing as I type this!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It isn't that obvious to me, sorry. I see people of ALL races being evil in various ways. I do agree that our judicial system is flawed, but I also see our welfare programs being flawed and abused by both white and blacks. This just isn't a race issue. It's just wrong. What is right, is right. What is wrong, is wrong. It's pretty simple to me. But not to everyone.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

YA'LL WANT TO KNOW A TYPE OF DOG THAT SEEMS TO BE JACKED UP ON MTN. DEW 24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK!! A JACK RUSSELL!! i made the mistake in getting the boyfriend one on one of my trips to NTZ. let me just say i have had my doubts about this dog.. RUSTY, but soo far so good. fingers crossed!! he's still a puppy really but he has now started doing the barking thing while staying on the porch.. This dog is treated better then MOST HUMANS!! UGH! SPOILED TO THE BONE! i just hope we are doing enough to teach him to not bite. :)

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

didn't mean to leave you out beammeupscotty.... lol And I know alot of crazy American Indians too... lmao....

Posted by daoriginalg (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is about time justice is served, this has been a problem in the community I stay in for a while, my neighbor's pit bull attacked my dog, we went to court and I still have yet to get any restitution from it, my dog survived...but he has yet breed and gotten other pits...This is neither a black or white issue, this a people issue...Dog owners should be held responsible for what their pet does...These dogs are dangerous especially when the owners train them to attack...The City of Natchez needs to take this very serious...I have children that stay in this community and I would hate for a child to get attack before this is taken seriously....

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I actually was attacked about 5 years ago while jogging behind Parkway and the dog was part pitt and the one bite he got in looked like a flippin shark bite! Tried to sue the lady who owned the dog but apparently because I used the wrong lawyer nothing happened....he only cares when his thumb is yanked off by a hot air balloon....nuff said.

Posted by reerod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What in the hell is really going on when freaking animals take precedence. You people need to understand that these are animals and no matter how you try to domesticate or think that they are tamed they are animals. Don't get me wrong I like animals as well as the next person but I know how to keep things in perspective. I can think of alot of ways my tax money could be spent instead of wasting time and money prosecuting over a dog. This is ridiculous for real. People you all need to prioritize. If your animals are that important to you move into seclusion and you never have to worry about anything happening to them. Don't waste my tax dollars on non-humans. The money wasted at these shelters could be money spent on babies, children and adults who need shelter; food; medical help. This is a sad time when a dog or cat can see a Dr. before my child can see one because no insurance. You people need to wake up smell the coffee and keep animals in their place in the wild. You hooped and hoolered when Michael Vick was sent to prison...did you know that you now are supporting him cause people are stupid.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To you, angiestaylor, first of all you do know me, but for the record let me tell you, yes I am black and proud to be. Now you child is wearing the shirt you brought him, because from reading your commett, it sound to me you would rather have a dog closer to you than a black person. And do yourself a favor, if and when you go to church ask you pastor about HATE, the Bible say "we should not HATE, but again I guess it is an exception to you. Remember the law" laws for WHITES and laws

At least the dog wouldn't be useing the race card. I like animals a whole lot better than most people.
Animals act on beastial need, Humans act from beastial greed.
Every comment I hace seen on here, no matter what the story, Brother2Brother, you are throwing out the race card. So now you tell me, who is the hater?
I don't give a tinkers damn what color this person is, what he did with those dogs was beyond reprehensible.
By Law ANYONE who has an animal that causes harm is liable for the damages in a court of law. This man is no different.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EXCELLENT jammin1!!!!!!!!

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you sue someone in a case like this, you don't need a lawyer. You file in small claims court. Take your police report, Dr. bills, hospital bills and any vet bills, plus any witnesses. You will Be compensated for your loss. The local Clerk of court can help you with where and how much it costs to file. The last I heard was $34.00 and the judge will make the defendant pay that too.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does the same rule apply to an owner who buys a dog to protect his or her property? I know people who buy dogs and train then to protect their property. So if their dogs so happen get lose someway and kill someone's pet and the article was different, would these comments be the same? They were trained to protect and dog fighters train to fight, but if in both situations an innocent dog, so to speak, is killed, then what do we lose? A dog, right. People train dogs to be mean for more reasons to fight people. I don't agree with dog fighting, because it's cruel and evil in some sort of way; but I just wonder what would be said it this was a pit bull in a suburb, that barked at people as they walked by, and got lose and killed this man's dog? Then what would be said. This is just an opinion. Take it the way you want.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes drawpaintsing, if that animal GETS LOOSE, the same law still applies. If however it is in the enclosed yard or business that it is guarding, then no. People can read signs that say beware of dog or this business is patroled by guard dogs. If an animal gets into there, and gets hurt or killed, The owner of the guard dog can not be held liable. Because each person is responsible for keeping their animal in their control.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well !!!! (sigh) I guess this non-owner animal lover will just sit back and take all these comments in. Sure is a heap tho' to think about.

Posted by cynthiafleming (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just gonna add my 2 cents...I am an avid animal lover as are most of my family members and my son has had 2 pit bulls and you could not have asked for kinder, sweeter more loving dogs. However, he did keep them confined. That is just part of being a responsible pet ower. We have to protect them as well as protecting others who may come in contact with them. It is a crime (as it should be) to fight dogs and the owner should be prosocuted to the fullest extent of the law. Why anyone is surpried at the picture, I'm not sure. Sensationalism sells papers. It just the business.

Posted by carolyn (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I do not care for the ideal of anyone raising pitebull dogs in residential areas, but on the other hand I feel that is was awful to arrest this young man and a working young man at that.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

AHH! Can't do it. I can't just ignore the fact that this article got more attention than feeding the hungry people. That article got zero attention. WHY???? I guess vicious, mean animals comes first.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was just wondering. It's the principles of this situation to me, not race, nor lifestyle. I love animals as well as I love children. They both have soft spots in my hearts. I hope this guy has learned from this. You are right, destiny. There were only four comments on the article about the policepersons who helped the needy children. I guess negativity sells.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok. I have sat and read EVERY comment on here and I can't believe some of the crap that is on here.

My husband is the pround owner of a "dangerous breed" dog. We have raised him since in was only 6 weeks old. When we got the dog I took him to the vet and asked for some tips on raising hiom to be kind. I followed those tips. You could not ask for a sweeter dog. If you were to walk into my yard today with no one there he most likely lick you too death. A family member has the sisiter to my dog. They couldn't control her so the dog was brought to my house. Since she has been at my house she has completely changed herattitude. It is in fact all in how you handle an animal.
So I think this man should be held accountable? YES! Do I think he should have gone to jail? YES!
This is a very sensitive subject with me. NOONE had the right to miss treat another livng thing.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jammin1 I am only in my opinion stating the way I feel. And I an entitle to that, just look at the cop in the Peterson's case in Chicago and the young lady at JSU. In Chicago this man (killer) is still walking aroung. Now on the other hand the young man in the JSU killing is in jail. Now let me say that is and was good police work. Thank God he was caught and he should be punish. Can't say the same for the Peterson case. Again White and Black, both are dead. Now, as far the dog fighting, Mr. Burnton should replace Mr Rod's dog and pay a fine, but to be jailed is a bit much, remember this is my opinon. The law would rather jailed a dog trainer (with the quickness) and allow a murder(?) walk around and be free. And if my comments send to be the RACE CARD thing to you, please do not read them. Okay I have no problem with you if you don't read them. Again that is your right. Read the Constitution."FREEDOM" to do, think, say, etc. whatever a person wants to.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((destiny)) you already knew the answer to that question... :)

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My opinion..If you don't mind, What breeds are your dogs?

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

destiny I do agree with you about this article. And it is obvious people are more concern about animals having the best of everything when you have humans (elder, sick) just to name a few don't have food can't buy meds, and fuel to keep warm during the winter months. all the attention is on the animal (dog) and none what so ever is on the less fortunate

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They are Timberwolves!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well there has been a number of articles on the needy lately, to be fair. This is just a new issue for ppl and they do love their pets.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother-Let me point out that Scott Peterson, a white man who killed his wife and unborn child, is now serving a life sentencing in California.

OJ Simpson is walking around free. Now tell me if that is racist.

Posted by gemccull (Gary McCullars) on December 6, 2007 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, well, Brother2Brother last post at 12:23 p.m. is certainly different from earlier posts in the day!

The paper needs to disguise there manipulation a little better!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Timberwolves huh??? Where did you get them???

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A family member found them somewhere in Lousiana. I wouldn't trade them for anything. They are great. And if you remember I have three kids. My kids feed and play with these dogs daily.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We are starting a petition for pitt owners to have liability ins. on these animals and that can not reside in the city limits. for the sake of smaller animals and children, and anyone that can't protect themselves against these animals.
i also hope that the fed. marshall that is here now can make a difference... remember the topic a dog got killed by another dog, it could havebeen a child playing in the front yard of your home. This has nothing to do with race...
thanks have a great day people!

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

++++ALL POSTERS++++ please , if you can break away for a moment go to home page, scan all the way to bottom and click on Kevin's article on the left. Great message.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh! And before anyone asks. Yes my dogs are restricted to my yard. On top of the wolves "I also have a miniture pincher. he is also restricted to my yard. When my dogs have gotten lose they haven't attacked any other animals. I live in the country. I am surronded my horses and dogs and cats and even goats. I haven't had a problem.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

myopinon, I am talking about the Scott Peterson, this is a entirely new and different case. But in the case of OJ Simpson the jury found him not guilty. So that all to tell you that if was not enough evidence to convit him. But in Scott Peterson's case it's different. Now tellme if that is racist.
gemccll, I am not as lucky as some of you might be I have to work remember I have a JOB. what about U? It is a great possible that I want post anything else to day. Because, I work for a WHITE MAN.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes the jury did find OJ not guilty and then the civil court said that he did in fact have some responsibilty for their deaths and that is why he has to pay money to the Goldman and Brown families. Now that is what I call injustice.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother 2 Brother..Not a good argument. Those cases are different. Tasha Norman's body has been found and her boyfriend was not formally arrested until her body was recovered. If Im not mistaking..he led them to her body. The Stacy Peterson case is still considered a missing persons case. Drew Peterson has been named a suspect in her disappearance. Just because police suspect someone of foul play doesn't mean they can just throw them in jail without the proper evidence.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

momof2-You do realize that by outlawing pitbulls in the city that you are saying it is okay for them to be in the county. Those dogs will be thrown out on the side of the road and possibly atack my kids. If you want them outlawed then do it for the entire county, not just the city. My children have to play in the county.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok Brother2Brother.....the thing about your post earlier where we take care of our dogs and buy them things in this country is true! We do! Now your other comment is complaining how we should take care of YOU? instead of my sweet pets you want ME to take care of YOU??? think again

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well if you don't like working for a white man quit, but i guess i have held you back and kept you from being successful, if your last comment isn't racist i have no clue what is.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother I do know you were talking about two different Peterson cases. And as kayce pointed out Stacey peterson is still consodered a missing person. Lacey Peterson was killed.

By the way, I too have a job and work for several white men. I still find time to post on here and obviously so do you.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce-I am curious. Do you find the comments made by Brother2Brother to be right. I know that my commetns aren't exactly fair either. I am just wanting another person's point of veiw. Do you think that this arrest is an issue that is race related? If so please tell me and I will in fact eat crow.

Posted by ozzette (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy, this story really rang home for me. When we moved to Natchez a year and a half ago, we brought with us our chocolate lab mix, DUKE. He was a sweetie, loved to run, and rolled all over the place with our kids. NEVER snapped or growled at them, and rarely even barked when someone knocked on the door. Then we moved here, and the kids from next door and down the road started taunted him daily. They hit him with sticks, shot him with pellet rifles, all because he would bark at them. So, we built him a pen that he stayed in during the day, and we still brought him in at night. These very same kids would wait until we left, and then go taunt and abuse him through the fence, We started noticing changes in him, he was grumpy, would run for the road at the speed of light after anything that moved, and started growling at strangers that came to the house. The vet advised we have him snipped, which we did, but still, he got worse. It got so bad, we couldn't leave him in the pen, he would be so mad by the time we got home, he would be competely uncontrollable. Then one day, he darted out the front door, and attacked a dog that had wandered in our yard. My 11 year old tried to break them up before anyone could stop her, and he bit her. I LOVED my dog, but I loaded him up and took him right then to the vet and had him put down. I drove to the vet with my pet, his head laying on my lap, and drove him home 15 minutes later with him in a box in the back of the van. All because some people teach their children it's ok to abuse "worthless animals"...he was such a sweet dog before we moved here, around these trashy people that seem to have no standards at all...sorry to type a book, but I just wanted to join those that say, it does not matter what breed a dog is, their behavior is based on how they are treated. Duke was a loving pet that loved kids until we moved here where he was continually mistreated when we weren't around. As much as I loved him though, I could not take the chance of him seriously injuring one of my kids, which is why I did the responsible thing, and had him put down. Pit Bulls are no different than any other dog. Treat them kind, and they will be kind. Introduce violence, and they will be violent. Simple as that. My condolences to the poor man who lost his beloved Duke, I'm sure he is heartbroken. :(

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I work for a white man and I love it. I guess that's because he's my husband..I can't believe I said that!! Yes white girls, I stole one of your men!!! LOL!!!

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce-That just might start a riot. LOL!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, thank God, I don't have a dog in this fight!!! //(*_*)\\

I love dogs but I do feel that some dogs are breed to fight or act as attack dogs, whether they are Pitt Bulls or German Shepherds. All of this could have been avoided if the dogs were sufficiently confined or restrained by fence or leash.

When you own a dog, you will love it just like it is a family member. If anything happens to that dog, it tugs at your heart. I feel really bad for Mr. Rodriguez's loss. If Mr. Brunston had been made aware of the threat his dogs posed to the neighbors and other animals, and he did nothing to rectify the situation, he should have been arrested.

We read, all the time, about children and elders attacked, injured and/or killed by vicious dogs. This is a serious issue that really needs to be addressed. I'm glad the Natchez Police are upholding the law and made an arrest. Now, maybe other lax dog owners will act with urgency to secure their dogs, too.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Destiny, I read that article from Kevin Cooper, and it is really good. I wonder if it will get a lot of support like this dog article is. I am thinking of something to say to him so I can post a message.

Posted by ozzette (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother. You wrote:
"And to theturthhurts, if you really want to know the different laws, just look at our judical system, just look around you everyday, it is very obvious."

I believe if you are going to state something, that you should have FACTS to back it up. YOU brought up the whole race issue ( which I am soooooooo sick of hearing about, whites and blacks alike) and when called out to state specifically what rules are different for whites than blacks, that's the best response you can come up with? Seems to me you are just like every other RACIST...you spew all kinds of personal views and opinions, but no FACTS.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, ((myopinion)) I don't think the arrest was race related. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BASED ON THE LAW! Now, it's up to Mr. Brunston to prove his innocence in a court of law.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ozzette, please tell me the neighborhood that you moved to.....that is a heartbreaking story and I am so very sorry your family pet was tortured this way....even if you email me directly please tell me what neighborhood did this to your family.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother, you can argue with these people and try to prove a point until you are a white man yourself; and nothing's going to change. When the day is over and all is said and done, it won't be different. White people won't understand Black issues and views, because they don't know what it's like to walk in a black person's tracks; and Black people don't understand why white people feel the way they do. Racism is an ongoing issue that won't die; and I know that it is not easy to deal with, because I have encountered a little myself. I just learn to deal with it. Don't waste your time. They want you to act like that.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

angietaylor, Co Lin is for you and your kind. I have a B. S. Degree. I don' t think this site was design for a spell bee. OK. And if you knew the white man that I work for, I am more than sure he would not listen to you because you have a very limited vocabulary, so if you are not in school, please try to get in providing you can pass the entrie exam. But, you sound like you need to start per-school first, is where you need to begin. Ok. I am posting this in this matter only because you are trying to get personal. White and Black laws still remains.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WHAT????????? DO NOT speak for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that was meant for drawpaintsing

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wasn't speaking for you all! I was only trying to tell him that he was wasting his time arguing. I don't think you understand what I was saying.

This was meant for sayitloud, and I'm done with it. Say what you want about me.

Posted by ozzette (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sayitloud, I mailed you privately. :)

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sayitloud, I don't need you to take care of me. You probably can't take care of yourself. Maybe that is the reason my check is tax so heavy every month. sayitloun I make 30 grand a year. What about you?

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah right 30K a year....doing what complaining about racism that YOU start yourself??

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

drawpaintsing, you are right they wouldn't understand because they don't want too. and from reading some of the posts; well you can see there is a hugh amount of poor understanding and prejudice. Thank for understanding.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Inmyopinion..No, I don't think the arrest is race related. I believe that owner would have been just as upset had the owners been white and that's because he loved his dog. He was arrested because the man filed a complaint. If he trained those dogs to fight then he should be held responsible. I don’t care if you're Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, etc. I do believe the young man should pay compensatory damages but I don't believe he should go to jail.

We DO have to understand that this is a public forum and everyone has a right to his or her opinion. No matter how bent out of shape we may get at that person's opinion..that's what they believe and you can't change that. Brother2brother is only stating what he feels just like everyone else on the forum.

For instance, some of my family and some of my husband's family weren't to doggon happy with us being married but that's what they felt. My husband lost touch with a lot of family because of me. Now my son is always being asked what color he is and if I’m his real momma. I have a 10 month old and this elderly white lady was saying how beautiful she was. In the end she says, "Her mother must be proud." I just laughed to myself.

Now my husband was blind to racism until he married me. He can tell you some stories of us being out to eat and not being waited on because he was with a black woman. In the beginning we would get bent out of shape about it, no we always do something to really get the person mad..like show a lot of public affection. They hate it..both black and white.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ozzette just let me state for the record, if you are tired to the RACE CARD commett, please don't read them. That what I do for most your commetts. Please, get a life. My salary is not base on you reading my commetts. I am going to get paid with or without post commetts or with or without you reading.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

drawpaintsing I am NOT going to speak badly to you or about you....I welcome your opinions.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel real bad for the man who had to witness his pet that he loved being torn apart......literally! That makes me sick to my stomach and the pitt dog owner needs to be punished BIG TIME!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay I am about to spank all yall!!! Let's not get so defensive of each other's opinions.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce, I am not in court so my argument (as you called it) is what it is. I don't have to give codes or statutes to defend what I post. And yes you are mistaking he did't led them to the body, he told them where to find it. Drew Peterson is guilty as sin, and the law knows it. But, nevertheless, the man is White.

Posted by ozzette (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother...I don't recall mentioning salary...I never mentioned money...you seem to be aweful proud of that $30K you make..however, we are in need of a "helper" at our shop...you need a job? I promise not to let your narrow mindedness be a factor in my consideration of you for hire. I have a life, thank you. And you just proved your racism even further by stating that you skip over our comments...you only go for the negative ones, and for the ones in support of you.
WHATEVER.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sayitloud, I inderstand what you are saying also. The point I was trying to make to Brother2Brother was that he was wasting time arguing, because Blacks don't understand Whites, and Whites don't understand Blacks. Until we do, there will be racism. Now think about it. What's the chance of that happening? He will be arguing until he turns into a white man, and that's never going to happen. I had no intention of offending anyone, and it seems that way I'm sorry. I meant for my comment to be positive, and a little educational. But coming from a black woman, only a personal comment, it's hard being black sometimes, and only we know that.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, we all have our own opinion and should be free to state it here or anywhere IN AMERICA. We do not see all issues the same, that's a given! However, we must agree that it's okay to disagree.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The intellect is truly making my head hurt...

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's agree to disagree and let it go.... Please?

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's hard being white sometimes.... and only we know that...

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

But I see what you are saying, drawpaintsing.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((kayce)) I agree with your statements and I think the stories you have to tell about when you and your husband dine out is t-o-o funny but s-o-o-o true! People still can't handle it.

Just be careful where you dine because people will do horrible things to your food when they have evil and racist views about you or an interracial relationship.

I often wonder, though, why Black women tend to pick better partners than their Black male counterparts who date interracially?!?!?!?!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((thetruthhurts)) it's got your head spinning, too????? LOL //(*_*)\\

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2brother, by saying he led them to the body means he told them where it was. I knew he didn't physically show them.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey truth. It is good to hear from you today! How are you?

ljohnson and kayce-Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't the only person who saw this as a case of wrong being done and the person responsible being punished.

Brother2BRother-I am going to say have a great day and a wonderful holiday season. I hope you know I reallyu do mean that.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ijohnson, we don't eat at the place once we see how we are being treated..we make them made then leave. And on your last comment..oooweee..you said it and not me.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sayitloud, don't hate the player, hate the game.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol..... I dunno.... the ones I see them with, a white man wouldnt have.... ijohnson....

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know you all are talking about me and what I am said. Go ahead and laugh, and say what you want.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ozzette, thanks but no thanks, I am sure that you have enough people in your SCOPE with narrow minds that you would need me. Please consider hiring some of them.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy THAT was original......

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What game? the racist game that YOU are throwing out there? Yeah I hate the game but also the players for starting something over NOTHING! This has NOTHING to do with what color anybody is! Now had the black guy bit the white man THEN we'd have a chance to shout racism!!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thetruthhurts...please stop it...Im at work. Dont make me laugh like that!!! See what you did ijohnson!! My name is bennit and Im not in it!!LOL!!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((kayce and thetruthhurts)) THAT's what I'm talking about . . . looks like they dragged something out of the gutter!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And, usually they're the first ones to rant and rave about the "white man keeping them down"!

Posted by ozzette (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh boy....this has gotten out of hand as usual. Human nature for people to disagree I guess. None of us knows what it's like to be someone of a different race. BUT, that's no excuse for one race to CONSTANTLY expect sympathy...white or black. I feel so sorry for the family that lost their dog, maybe in time, they will do as my family did, and go to the shelter and adopt a dog that so desperately needs and wants a home. The dog doesn't care if you are white or black. Ya'll make sure you enjoy what's left of the day, contact me privately if you wish, I won't be contributing to this thread any further, as the origional point has been lost. :(

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((ozzette) don't let us run you off!!! Sometimes comments may veer off course but that's okay, too. It is what it is!!!! I do believe that all that can be said (on the racial issue) has been said. Hopefully, we can move on and get back to sharing our thoughts on THIS article.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

True, ozzette. I am apologizing to everybody.... I just have a problem with saying what I feel....

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah we will and everything ijohnson but first a shout out to you...
HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG..ijohnson..you should be ashamed!! LOL!! I can remember this guy..a black guy flirting with and my husband walked up. He looked like ol dude in that picture up there. He says, "Oh, so you one of them type sistas." My husband and I just started laughing. So now when I tell him I don't feel like cooking or doing other things he says that.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was thinking the same thing ozette. I was trying to give Brother2Brother some advice, and now I am sorry I even wasted my time. Instead, my comments were mislead and made fun of. This is now pointless to me. I'm done for today. God bless all of you and your minds. Pray for me, and I'll do the same to you. Peace Out!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth you said it right earlier. lol

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce-- You have a wonderful sense of humor.... I would imagine you would have to dealing with the racism both you and your husband MUST deal with from simple minded whites and blacks..... or you would never make it work.... Kudos... to you and your hubby.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks peace--- love you too... and I am sorry you feel that way drawpaintsing, I am sure nobody intended to make you feel that way...

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Truth..it's either have a sense of humor or go crazy. I choose to "LAUGH"!! Now I have to try and work on my son with it. Kids can be cruel. He has come a long way though!! I use to feel bad about bringing a mixed child into this messed up world!! Its hard for my extremely light skinned, green eyed son to have a dark-skinned momma with an afro.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((sayitloud)) Yeah, baby, HOW 'BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!! "Say it loud: I'm a Cowboys' fan and I'm proud!!!!!"

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh no..... is that football talk???? (hiding under my desk)

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, ((thetruthhurts)) >>> that's the DALLAS COWBOYS!!! //(*_*)\\

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's been real . . . and interesting!!! But, I've got to run, my day is just beginning with back-to-back meetings until late evening.

I'll join you folks later or first thing in the morning. CHOW!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I remember teasing her cuz she did'nt know which city the Cowboys were from. lol. Love ya truth.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was really trying very hard not to state this. But after I was attacked by so many individuals on the site for my commets, I am go to tell the real truth and I don't care who don't like it. HERE IS MY STORY......

Let me sum of this story. When dogs was unleashed on slaves (blacks) and bit them, hunted them down so they (slaves) could be beaten, killed, and even have their limps cut off from their body. Nothing was spoken about brulality. So what all the fuss about now. What is the real issue, is it becasue the Black man's dog killed the White man's dog or is it really that the two dogs were fighting (although that is only natural).

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nobody here thinks that it was okay to harm slaves or to have slaves. I'd be furious if the dog killed my dog if i had one. I have a cat and would be just as angry if he killed her and it's in a dogs nature to chase cats but the dog should never have been free to roam. He was raised to fight so why would'nt he fight? It's the owners fault.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are only baiting BROTHER.... but I am biting..... Against my better judgement..... What you are speaking of being the truth, is really a little thing called HISTORY!!!! It's in the past... You weren't there, I wasn't there.... So how about we leave the past where it belongs..... I am tired of it being thrown up in the white mans face when we had nothing to do with it... IT IS HISTORY

Posted by whatever (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by genlee (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pitbulls should not be allowed in Adams County. They are only good for one thing, fighting. The only people that want those ugly dogs are of gangster mentality. Open season on the pitbulls. If you see one just put a bullet between the eyes. Everyone will be better off for it.

This was the original post that started the whole "race" issue. "Gangster mentality" is refering to black people.

***Back off of Brother2Brother!! He didn't start it...someone else did***

To kayce...I understand completely about the restaurant deal. I'm a white woman dating a black man, and we BOTH have had to deal with negative comments and looks from others, INCLUDING OUR FAMILY. When I get the looks, whispers, stares, etc., I just smile at them because I know the man I'm seeing is a GOOD man, and we were meant to be together.

Brother2brother...I understand where you are coming from. Racism is a big issue in the south...always has been and always will be. Some white people do treat black people differently...but PLEASE do NOT think that all white people are like that.

For every one else...there is only one race, and that is the HUMAN RACE!! Be more receptive of those around you and you will be really surprised at how things will change. All people are different...learn to accept their differences and MOVE ON!!!!

Does anyone on here remember the Golden Rule...? "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth-BAck off and don't take the bait.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whatever..I totally agree!! That's why I made it clear I wasn't a gangster!! Question to Whatever..Did you realize racism was as bad as it was before you started dating a black man? Im anxious to know. My husband was clueless.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

peacerulz How do you know that the dog intenditionally left to roam free. He owner from the picture was at work and may not have been aware that the dog was unleashed or ungated. It seem to be that no one in the community step up to call animal controll. I am don't saying it was their problem but someone could have taken the initiative to contact animal or even contacted the owner.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently, there was an ongoing problem with these dogs. The article staes that the orginal arrest warrant sat on the judge's desk unsigned for three weeks. I think the judge should have to pay for some of the expenses.

Also, the owner was obviously aware that there was a problem. He should have taken a closer look at what he was usinmg to keep the dos restrained on his property.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sigh.... ok myo.. (but you know how hard that is for me)

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i do know honey. That is one of the reasons I love you so.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with most of your post, whatever. Good luck to you and your man. Alot has changed over the years, it's not nearly sooo bad to mix races today as it was when I was in school.... I mean nothing racist by that. My point is, 100 years ago there was no mixing of the races at all.... 50 years ago, you could of perhaps even suffered with your life had you mixed races...... today it is even better, so perhaps the race issue will improve as well... I am hoping...

Posted by whatever (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kayce....

I was raised in a very prejudiced family. I was told, as a child, that black people were nasty and that I was never to have contact with them. I grew up!!! I started seeing things for myself, and came to the realization that black people aren't bad...it's PEOPLE that are bad. Not all, but some. My baby biracial...and my dad was furious at me for dating, much less sleeping, with a black man. I let most of his comments go, because he is my father, and I respected him enough to understand he was raised that way. However, I have had to since put him in his place when he makes comments to me. I don't tolerate it at all. He and I are enough alike that he knows now when he has pushed me too far. Now, he doesn't say anything negative to me, about me, or about my child (his grandson) and we are ok.

That's why I think people need to open their eyes and see the truth around them. Yeah, it will challenge every belief that you have held your entire life, but that's life. If you don't learn something new everyday, then you might as well be dead.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce and whatever-I applaud you both. I can tell by your commetns that you both are very strong women. I wish there were more like you. It takes guts and courage to rise above what you were raised to believe. You both are wonderful people.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't see me ever dating a person of another creed, but only because I choose my stress level as much as I can, and that ain't one of my choices.... lol.... You that choose to fight this battle, I envy you. I may be missing out... but oh well...

Posted by whatever (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My only point to all that post on the Democrat is that there is more than one side to every story. Don't judge anyone based on their beliefs or opinions. It is who they are, so there's no point trying to change it. What I believe is wrong may be perfectly ok according to some one else's beliefs or views...and vice versa...

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thetruthhurts, What wrong with dating another race? we are all God's children, he made us from his own image. So you are saying that what God made is not good enough for you.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Truth..when I was in high school I frowned on it and look at me now. When we learn better..we do better. When Ken first asked me out..I though "H to da no". My brothers will kill me. They use to treat him so bad in the beginning but I gave them a piece of my mind. I started rolling my neck and telling them that he was my man and if they didn't like..I really didn't give a ____. You fill in the blank!! Now they treat him like one of the family. As a matter of fact, they treat him better than they treat me. I can't say the same about his family though. His mom is okay with it because she has grandchildren but keep praying for them!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am saying that I have had TWO bad abusive marriages, where I got the you know what beat out of me regularly..... I choose NOT to deal with fighting the world and date somebody of another race... so sue me.... gimmie a sister a break, brother...

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Truth..Go ahead and try the Dark Meat..It may help with all that stress!! LOL!!! I know white meat has been good to me!!!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yo truth...I may have spoken too soon. What is your creed!!!

Posted by whatever (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ROTFLMFAO at Kayce....so true girl, so true...LOL

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth-Stop! Don't even respond. WE both know that you can ignore this person. Now let's be like Nike and Just Do It.

Posted by gunther57 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well i just now got the chance to read this article all i can say is WOW....yes the man should go to jail, its a feloney with one year or more in jail for fighting a dog....the article said that he paid his fine and is out of jail....if you get pulled over for speeding you can go to jail, a ticket is a courisy(spelling)...if you read the bottom of the ticket it states that THIS IS AN AFFIDAVIT...i am an AMERICAN....my history is American Indian and White...and before i was married i loved ALL WOMEN no matter the race....the man was wrong for training the dogs to fight just like VICK....i bust my ASS everyday making a living to support my family with alot of black men and white men and even an asian....we all bleed red and we all get our feeling hurt....if any person wants to talk about race its always the black, white thing....thats the biggest BS ever....read history, the american indians was hunted for fun, thousands of nations was wiped out(including the Natchez Indians) but no one ever says anything about that....no one has it bad RACISM is just simple minded people that want to look at the past instead of the future....i do apoligize for the late race comment but it just burns my buns to hear this crap....when i am at work and i write a black person a ticket i get called racist or worse....NO its cause you was doing 60 in a 45....but like i said sorry about the late comment

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth-I am thinking of heading your direction this weekend to do some shopping. If I do I will give you a call!

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2brother---- Once again I'm going back to the bliss thing. You just stated that the guy was at work and might not have known. This picture was taking recently, yet the incident happend weeks prior to the arrest being made. What ya need to do is read the full article get all and I do mean all of your facts straight.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am proud for you kayce... truly I am.... You are great! I have fought enough battles in my little life... and don't care if I am missing out, or if I ever meet the right "guy" or whatever.... I don't require one.... BUT I have come to realize I can pick my stress level to a point... this is just not worth me stressing over... my kids are taking that spot right up..... Ok??

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lowrider, it dosen't matter when the picture was taken. It is a strong possibility that the owner did not know his dogs was ungated. Make the man pay for the dog and fine him for dog fighting. But to be locked up for this ......I just don't agree and never will.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, I'm back. I just couldn't stay away. Gunther, you pull people over for going 60 in a 45. Dang,I gotta to slow down! I actually do that during rush hour. Thanks Gunther!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so the law should be changed? Because it has to be the law for him to be arrested...Just trying to wrap my mind aroung what you are saying.....

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thats cool but why does it have to be black or white. Your basically stating that you don't agree with the punishment, I can except that. However if the owner would have been white, black, or any other race, would you still feel the way you do?

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question! If it had been a person who was seriously hurt or killed would it then be justifyable to arrest this young man. BTW-I am proud of this young man b/c he will get up and go to work. I see alot of people who are looking for jobs. The ones that cna get through the interview can't seem to pass a drug test. This one obviously did. I know for a fact that Stine tests ALL new employees.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He abused animals, PERIOD.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on December 6, 2007 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man I have to come in late on this argument.... Well, just to put a spin on this I was bit a couple years ago by a BOXER! I absolutely love Pit Bulls! I know a lot of people who have them that are the sweetest dogs ever! I know one personally that I absolutely love and that dog treats me better than some humans treat me! But I have also seen the bad side of these dogs.. the side where when you walk by their cage they stare at you like they wanna kill you, the side where they fight any dog they can. But I have also seen a Black lab fight and some little mutt mix. Not only pits can be trained to fight any dog can. And just to let you all know I knew of several WHITE people (not in Ntz) who fight dogs. Its not just a black thing. HA HA oh and KAYCE you totally cracked me up w/ your comment about white ppl fighting chickens and black ppl loving chicken! Girl I loved it!

Anyway basically what I wanna say is all dogs have the potential to fight if they are raised that way. Not all Pitts are bad!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That was not a response to you myo. Just so you know. Our posts went in at the same time.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I figured that out. That question was actually meant for the peole who don't think it is right to put the boy in jail. I agree with the arrest.

I did however want to go ont he record that he is working and not sitting at home doing drugs and for that I thank him.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad you said something about whItes fighting dogs too firered. I was going to earlier when someone made the blanket statement, "WHITES DO NOT DO THIS". They need to do a little research but i'm sure that's not on their list of priorities.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oooooo.... I am white, in case anybody missed it... (kayce) I ain't proud to be white or any of that jazz... I am proud and grateful EVERYDAY to be alive and well... that's all I am proud of.... Like I said before.... right is right and wrong is wrong.... period....

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

True myo. I just wish these ppl that do this with these dogs would realize how dangerous it is before someone, even another dog, gets hurt.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace-did eagles get in touch with you for me?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They inquired truth.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How did this turn into a race war? Dogs don't come in races, they come in breeds. Brother2Brother, for a self proclaimed educated man, you shock me. From reading your posts in the past, I'm very ashamed of you. To all of you that have gotten off-track, get a grip. This should not have happened. It's no ones fault that the man that owned the pit bulls was black and the owner of the boxer was white. It happened because the paper work got shoved to the side. These pit bull owners did not have them as pets. They were a business venture.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No. What's up???

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Way to go brod!!!!!

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have tried to email you several times and it just wouldn't go through. I told her I didn't know if oyu forgot who I am or not.

brod-That is a great statement. You are 100% correct. If it had been put like that (with correct english)(yes, I know I get in a hurry and I don't always get it right)from the get go then I beleive the whole conversation could have been avoided.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was'nt sure if someone was using other ppls names cuz they tried to take yours and truths there for awhile. Sorry. Wonder why i'm not getting your emails.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My email has been actinf stupid. It isn't letting truth get then either. I hae to use a different email to send anything to her.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

okay all! I am out of here for the day. Have a great evening. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth did'nt get several of mine the other day. My account has been acting weird too. Can't do anything with it for a few minutes sometimes.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You too myo. I've gotta go do something to make it look like i've done something all day. lol. At least i'm not at work.

Posted by Brother2Brother (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brod, be ashamed of yourself and yes I am educated, so get like me. My posts are my opiniond, the way I feel. So what ever you do by no means, that I want you to be ashamed of me I am sure that you have aquaintances in your circle that you can be ashamed for. And vise- verse So what you do is try to educated yourself and be a nice person so Santa can bring you a toy, because I am not your toy. Right!!!!!!!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol... true true peace.... It's been fun... but I have gotta go.... goodbye all.... I may be back later.... I have to punish my son, so I may be looking to vent... love ya....

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OMG

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What was the OMG for truth???

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I emailed you several times during this conversation but i guess you did'nt get them again.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is that what an education gets you???

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Da_n, you can train a rabbit to fight...That's the key word here T R A I N. The pits were trained to fight. When they finished off Duke they ran down the street and put an elderly woman in her house, then they went back up the street and proceeded to get the construction workers. People you've got to get the point here. If you see a pit bull behind a fence and leashed, you better keep your eyes opened in the back of your head. This dog is no PET. He's been abused, starved, neglected and taken out only for training sessions. These particular pits had no shelter whatsoever. Don't you get it, leaving them chained to a cyclone fence out in the elements and throwing a bowl of table scraps to them every other day makes them tough. There's a guy in this very same neighborhood that puts his 6 month old pit on a chain that would pull a mack truck and parades him through the streets, to build him up and make him strong. YEAH, RIGHT!

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother...you are a waste of my time and I know yo Mama is proud...You are a shame on your race....! Swallow that.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If he went to college he needs to get a refund. LOL

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Love that post again brod. When he finished off Duke etc, etc. What don't these pl get about the danger of these dogs??? What don't they get about the fact that it is the guys fault for even having them AND training them to kill?????

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

angie why did'nt you get back in the game sooner??? We would'nt have let that guy bug you.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you peacerulz..b2b is a joke and I think his proclamation of a B.S. is exactly that, B_ll S_it. The only point he's made so far is that he's obviously black and a severe racist, and he is still living in the mid 1800's. After this post, I will no longer acknowledge his existence. He makes as much sense as dog poo on a popscicle stick.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL. Ignoring him is a good idea. I did'nt know that he really claimed to have a degree. Wonder how?????

Posted by toosweetlej (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother, stop it already, you say you make 30k a year. When do you work? You are on this forum all day backwards and forwards. You said that you were educated, well act like it. Your comments weren't all spelled correctly. For example, spell bee should have been spelling bee, and entie exam should have been entry exam. So you have a B.S. degree, in what? Oh, and by the way, I AM a black educated lady.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you toosweet!!!!!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally believe that anyone caught fighting animals should pay the price. I agree that dogs are taught to fight and forced to do so. What happens if this animal would have attacked a child, Brother?? Would you still feel the same way? I think this forum was used as an excuse to rant about racial issues. The fact remains that an innocent animal was killed for no good reason and the owner of the pit bull is to blame!

Posted by pitbulllover (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

say, i like the comments left about the "pits"
i strongly have to disagree with genlee in reference to the comment you made about the breed. i own pit bulls and i know i dont affiliate with "gangsters" or have a "gangster mentality" true, if you raise a pit to fight, it will begin to do so at will...but you dont have to assume that the dogs only belong to a certain group of people. if they wanted to completly ban pit bulls from missippi, it would have been done so by now. guess what? the blacks arent the only race with them. WE OWN THEM ALSO! there are more white owners of pit bulls than you think.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you amyrenene...Duke was an innocent animal, he was in his own fenced yard and these pits broke into his domain to kill him. The pit owner/owners are responsible.

Posted by pitbulllover (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

excuse my mispelling...i know its Mississippi

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Rodriguez, I may not know you but my heart goes out to you for the loss of your dog and what you must have gone through witnessing this massacre. I have always felt sick for people that were witness to their pet being run over but THIS had to have been harder than anything any of us can imagine.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW!!! When did Michael Vick move to the MISS-LOU area?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That skinny guy could never play Pro Football. That's why he had to try to be cool with his bad doggies. Shame on him!!!!!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

by the way...years ago when my daughter was a baby my father in law had a huge doberman and I have to admit it scared me to take my baby over there around that dog, (I am used to poodles OK) and that dog won me over in a few short visits....that was the sweetest dog and would let my baby pull up on him by pulling his hair! ANY breed can be made sweet and ANY breed can be made mean but when it has teeth like a steal strap and you raise it not only mean but to also fight?!! trouble

Posted by Morticia (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All dogs go to heaven. Sorry for your loss Mr. Rodriguez. I know how you feel as someone ran my dog over on purpose. I was devastated. I still am.

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys have really been acting up since I left.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cats are so much better.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Morticia.....I am so sorry for the loss of your dog, some people don't get it that our pets are a part of our family.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All you people that have somethin to say about this guy need to get a life. None of yall have any right to judge this man. You know nothing about him or his dogs!!! And I believe its a race thing to and I'm white!!! Harold is a better person than any of you people. Mr. Rodriguez and all the other people in that neighborhood now that Duke can run through the neighborhood chasin people and taunting Harolds dogs but nothin gets said because all the whites cover for eachother!!! Yall all need to get yalls facts straight...this man is innocent until proven guilty, and I back him 100% so yall just think to yourselves..

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

back him all you want but this incident had WITNESSES!!!! Were you there? Were you one of them?? I thought not.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

acedog, I'd like very much to address this to your comment ,
If by any chance this was an illegal arrest,(which I know was not)then That's one for the police and one more for the city of Natchez. I was there I saw the attitude of this man(Owner of the dogs),no compassion, no concern, not once has he tried to contact the injuried party. The first assault(3 weeks ago) should have never happened and the brutal senceless killing of "Duke" shouldn't have happened yesterday. I'll just bet your a pitbull owner by the way you expressed your opinion. Know what else, YOU could care less about anything other than the fact that this happened to a young BLACK MAN. But you nor any one else is going to turn this into a race issue. It's about PEOPLE of any COLOR, (Black, White, Red, or Yellow) owning uncontrolled pitbull dogs. I'm gonna take this a step futher, I'm gonna contact our governor and see if we can't get helicoptors to fly over this county as they did Amite and other surrounding counties. STOP IT people, it's not about our color!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If it had been my little kitty i would be inconsolable. Did someone just tell us to shut up?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad you told us that momof2.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said brothafroma...you aren't what it's about. Dog poo on a popscicle stick. Stay with the program...I bet you're not white, I bet you're not black...You just want to be with the opposition. Like the opposition, YOU ARE WRONG.
Posting your kind of B.S. only makes a fool of you.

Thank you Momof2, I love ya!

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have read all the comments and think all of this is a crock of guano. This should be about people being responsible. Train a dog to kill and pay the consiquences when he does!
You have one man who is being responsible by keeping his dogs in a fenced in area. You have another man who has broken the law by training his dogs to fight, then by not keeping these same dogs properly restrained. I myself am a responsible pet owner. My dogs stay in a large fenced in yard. Yet I have a irresponsible pet owners dog in my yard! Animal Control made a very weak attempt to capture it then abandoned me to take care of the problem myself. Too many people in this case were not being responsible for their own actions and an innocent family and dog have paid the price for someone elses incompitance!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That is hilarious!! Innocent until proven guilty?! That's such an intelligent statement! Are you serious?

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if this was about any dog besides a pitbull then none of this would be a big deal... My uncle has bleed hounds that attack each other from eating out of its food bowl and he didnt train his dogs to fights... do parents teach their kids to fight? NO but they do it anyways!!! Harold didn't want his dog to kill DUKE or any of the other boxers. But those dogs provoked it some how some way...they are not innocent either. Mr Rod lost his high dollar dog and Harold lost all his dogs even the one that didn't get lose. Think about how this mad feels also not just mr rod.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BLEED Hounds??!!! OMG!!! Now that is flippin hilarious!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So you're the one with the dog in your house. How did that go???

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I have called the humane society and was told to call the mayor if animal control would not help so that is what I did.. now lets see if the mayor calls me back ....

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Were'nt his dogs being used to fight or did i get that wrong some how???

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They told you to call the Mayor for this??? This town never ceases to amaze me. Unreal!!!!!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Its hear say unless mr rod or anyone else has video proof of the dogs fightin then they shouldn't post that...if there is video lets see it!!!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

amyrenene; I was there, HE'S GUILTY! and ya know what else? That Judge that didn't sign the first warrant, but by some mirracle on the day of the "murder", HE FOUND IT...
Halliluah, Thank God, ya'll pay attention.
Yes, amyrenene we're serious!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My question at 7:28 was in response to the post at 7:24. TY

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a good thing those dogs didn't attack Chuck Norris. He would have given them a proper round house kick to the muzzle.

"Chuck Norris doesn't go hunting, he goes killing."

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

But where is your proof brotha??? Where's your vid of the incident???

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dont have none dont need none/// dogs fights... if you cannot prove that he makes his dogs fight then you cant do anything

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where is the dog now Ldybreez???

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most pets don't have the scars they said his dogs had.

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I'll say it like this.....if my dog is in my yard and stays contained in a fence...and your dog comes in my yard and attacks my dog....I don't care about your feelings...and I don't care whose feelings I hurt!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and I'll add this...If you can't control you animals, you don't need them!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look out!!!!! lol

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peacerulz........he has other dogs in his yard....if they have scars it probably from the other dogs they live with!!!
Amyrenene.....if your dog breaks through your fence while your at work and gets in someone elses yard all you can do is try your best to get home and tend to them!!!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brothafromanothamotha(OH PLease)
Again let me tell you, I was there, and the lady with the camera from the Nat. Demo. took pictures of the bloody pitt bulls, but guess what, nobody got to see the mutalated boxer, but the ones that cared enough to walk up to his fence and take a look. I can assure you that your bro that got arested never, NEVER came to check on Mr. Rod or his beloved dog...

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you are worried about someone coming into your yard don't get dogs, just put a picture of Chuck Norris in your lawn. NO ONE WILL EVER ENTER..NOT EVEN YOU.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'd never leave animals together that wounded each other enough to leave scars. Don't you know how wrong that in itself is?

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

harold saw the dog and it shocked him that his puppy would do something like that....and as far as sayin something to mr rod...mr rod wouldnt give him the chance and if i was harold i wouldnt know what to say!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well....let's say my dog did break through my fence while I'm at work...he's not going to go and attack any dog....because he was not raised to fight and will not fight, even if he's provoked by another dog.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Duke and Angel never taunted Harold's dogs. You make it sound like Duke got what he should have. What's wrong with you. Too many times, during the summer, harold would leash his dogs and walk them down the street. They'd get close to the Rodriguez house and put them up on the sidewalk. They were on feeder leashes and they would let the pits go to the fence where Duke and Angel were. Now, tell me who was taunted. Get you facts straight before you loose your lips and finger tips.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did you google the Chuck Norris jokes or what??? lol

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't have a clue, after I put a blanket over him and evicted him from my home out the front door, he got back in my yard and out again. Guess he is climbing the fence, then he was at my front door this morning ran when I went out and he was not here when I came home.. But he's no longer in my house, I pray he's not in my back yard.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

your full of it if you think your dog wont fight!!!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nah, I've seen it.

Anyways, do we have a local SPCA? We need some animal cops around here....on a more serious note.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NO brod....duke didnt deserve to die!!! I agree with that...and i believe Harold is responsible for his dogs like the rest of dog owners, but that doesnt mean he trained his dogs to kill.........ITS IN THEIR BLOOD

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hope he's gone for good for your sake LdyBreez.
Did you see him call the dog a puppy?

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brothafromanothamotha, ? Where you there ? You sure seem to know an awful lot about Harold, where you one of his goonies on the porch Wed.? Come on tell it! The truth!

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No we have an animal control officer... 1 person to take care of all the strays and this one officer does not seem intrested in doing the job and I am speaking from experience.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no brothafromanothamotha YOU are full of S__T!!!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought that was their job.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GOONIES???? and no i wasn't on his porch, but I know Harold and the type of person he is and he not one to want dead dogs layin around

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, I know her Breez....but this is a whole city and she's one person...and they limit her to what she can do. (Not that I'm taking up for her). This is just one of my pet peeves....I just hate to see animals abused. I've even called the law on my neighbors before for animals when they did not get the proper treatment for illness.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NO NO NO brothafromanothamotha these dogs are not born to fight! they are born and bread to hunt! they are taught to fight and kill... i have one in my yard and she has NEVER tried to fight another dog outside HER fence!!! you are so wrong!!!! brotha

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thats true sayitloud and so are you and everyone else in the world!!

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Me too peacerulz... me too that's why I called them... I was to say the least taken aback when I learned that the stray that had gotten in my home and I had trapped for her was now my problem to deal with. Got to love our tax dollars at work ...

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok momof does your pits have other dogs around it?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Layin around????? Gosh you're crude. Just when you started to sound a little more reasonable too. "IT'S IN THEIR BLOOD" does'nt make your case either though.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no actually only you brothafromanothamotha and don't even TRY and include me in any of your bulls--t!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No Brotha...remember...they are innocent until proven guilty? Right?

Breez.....yeah...that really is disgusting. I feel for ya.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok peace so what should happen with all of this?

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes she does and she is never agressive unless a strange dog comes in her yard... or if we go outside while the strange dogs are in the yard, this happened recently....
you have to teach them to fight! they are not born knowing how!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oH NO. yOU THROW IT MY WAY AND ASK FOR A SOLUTION????? Sorry. Ummmm, don't know but i think it's all a HUGE MESS. I don't really know i'd have to look at the law books on this one.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know all of the facts anyway how could i make a ruling??? lol

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ask sayitloud. lol

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brothafroma, if Harold told you he saw what his "puppy" did to Duke, he lied to you. When he arrived at his home, he did not come to Mr. Rodriguez nor did he make an attempt. As far as him or you not knowing what to say, there are no words and I'm sorry just won't cover it. The only by-stander that he spoke to was my sister. She told him that he better chain his d_mn dogs(because they were still loose)and his only reply was, "you can't talk to me like that!" That's how concerned he was about the incident. NO, NO, NO, he did not see what that "puppy" did. He had lots of support from his neighborhood friends that walked around the corner from where they hang. They got a huge chuckle out of it. As hot as it was yesterday, they all wore their hooded jackets, I guess so that no one could take their picture or identify them. No, this is not a racist comment, with the hoods who could tell what color they were.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nobody has ever taught me to fight....i grew up fightin with my brothers for stupid little stuff....but my mom didnt teach me how to beat them up i figured it out on my own..and no matter what my mom said..we still fight!!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kept the hoods on huh???

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brod he saw the dog believe me and told me how bad it was...unbelieveable!!! and as far as the person yellin at him the cops told her not to talk to him like that either!!!! And i asked him what he said to the man...he didn't say anything your right....Harold dont know what to say to a "mad Mad man" the just lost his dogs that was like his son!!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, but someone did teach you to fight...and you had/have a choice in it. There's a difference between just a little fight over something stupid and fighting to kill.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if i remember right I had a jacket on around 11:--11:30 yesterday too....as far as i know there nothin wrong with that....and the democrat had to right takin pictures of them anyways...

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your right my brothers taught me...just like the other dogs in the yard taught the pup to fight!!

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so how old was this "pup" pit bull? I'm just curious.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well the dog in the back of the truck covered in blood was not a puppy! and the damage done to duke was not done by a puppy.. you sure we are talking about the same dogs? oh none of them were puppies!!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, look what I missed out on by working all day. Poor me!
Kayce - you go girl! I remember when the U of Al. was intagrated and the next year the big annoucement was some white guy getting married to one of the first black students. I was about 14 at the time and thought it was great. My family about disowned me. I have never understood why that should be such a problem. I do however understand truths statements. I too would probably not date or marry someone of a different race, just because I don't want to deal with the problems it could cause. Just call me a coward! lol
There was once a black lab in our neighborhood who was one of the meanest dogs I had ever seen. The kids couldn't walk to the park because they had to go past his house. He would roam the neighborhood and attack other dogs in their yards. Someone shot the dog - I don't know who - but most of us were grateful. The owners were not very nice people, and thought it was funny when the dog beat up on other dogs. The point of all this is to say - any dog can be made to be vicious, some dogs are born to be vicious just like some people seem to be. We all know of parents who raise 2 wonderful kids while the third one seems to be nothing but trouble.
And for those who are worried about Harold - don't be, he was at work today because I saw him there.
Any kind of animal abuse upsets me, just as any kind of child abuse does. Animals and children do not have a voice to tell about it, and if they have always been treated badly, they know no different. Remember to, that Duke was not the only animal to die from this man's abuse. The 3 pits, who in another life may have made wonderful pets, also died.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

momof you must have never seen a pup pitbull

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brothafroma, I'm the person that was yelling at him, not my sister. The cop told me that I couldn't shout "profanities", she didn't tell me not to yell at him. Now, do you want the rest of the story? But, I guess you don't need it. You must have been there from the start too, and you still sing poor Harold's praises. You most certainly know about the prior incident. Mr. Rodriguez was mad, more than that he was so terribly hurt that this had to happen. Why did it have to happen? Why didn't Harold take the responsibility to do something after the first incident? Why didn't someone suggest to him to keep the dogs in the country or keep them chained. You know what's been going on and you did nothing. I'm sorry for Harold's dogs, they only did what they were trained to do. kill, kill, kill. Bad dogs are owned by Bad people.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I told you i have 1 and have had her since she was 6 weeks old and those poor dogs at that house were not puppies! and by the way they were half starved, who was caring for them?
and i am just thrilled that herald was at work today, cause poor mr. rod had to drag his self out of the bed to go pick up the remains of his loving dog and family member!!! so thank you Jesus that herald made it to work, what would have stines done without him!!
wonder what excuse he gave to leave work yesterday?

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You say what you want brod Harold not a bad person you dont know him so you shouldn't judge

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

man the things yal do when I'm trapped at work!
brothamotherwhatever; you really need a CLUE!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

are murders moms and dads in prison???no because anything with a brain have minds of there own...Harold aint bring the dogs over to the house and tell them to kill DUKE (RIP)

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gottabehappy go back to work!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is getting wild. lol

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow, did anyone else understand that comment?

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

do YOU work or just gripe?

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nope amyrenene, not a word

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mmmm k....making sure...

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AMEN!!! i agree amyrenene, WHAT was that!

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I pray my pittbull doesn't possess this killer in his blood!!!! So far he has been nothing but nice to my family especially my son. I should probably take him to vet and have his blood tested for the killer trait. Does anyone know if that possible? Are there any vets out there?

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yall all old white people who could careless about the other race...yall keep on tryin to bring Harold down if that how yall chose to spends YALLS time...im out

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce - I'm not a vet...but I doubt you have anything to worry about.

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok...didn't half understand that either.....but brotha shouldn't judge either....hehe......maybe he should eat his own words.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well all i have to say is this is sad 4 dogs died at the hands of herald all because he couldn't take the time to chain them... so brotha say what you want all he had to do was bring home some chain from stine's and handle this business at home but guess what,? HE DIDN'T!! and all these dogs had to die!! so very sad! and you want to defend him.... so you do what you gotta do and we are going to do what we gotta do and we will see who comes out on top!!!
i am sure i will see you in the court room and not even know who you are but i will be there!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank God!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well momof if you see one white person there on his side youll know how I am...i just wont know who you are hidin among mr rod people!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kayce i have a pitt and she is not mean at all, if you don't teach your puppy to fight it will not be agressive, but will protect you and your son!

i agree freedom42, THANK GOD!

Posted by BLZBUB (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How did we get from dog fighting to all this race stuff?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We're not old.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i will be sure to come up and introduce myself!!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MOMOF how did you train the dog to protect you and your son?

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My sister in law has a bulldog that is the nerdiest little dog I've ever seen. He's so cute and friendly. I would never be scared of him.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you Brothafroma for the sermon. You're not judging? Harold isn't responsible enough to have these kind of dogs, right? Harold went so far as to deny owning the dogs yesterday. He said they belonged to his roommate.
Try to figure this out, if you can. Don't preach to me and accuse me of being judgemental. You are being unfair to try to turn this incident around. Those "puppies" massacred Duke. What I consider a puppy wouldn't be capable of that.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i didn't she just does! she is not trained to do anything but sit and eat... yet still she barks when people pull in my yard always wagging her tail!!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ok well if its not trained to do it then its in its blood!!! how do you know what kind of blood line Harolds dogs came from?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He just said he was white right after he said, "ya'll are all just old, white ppl". lol.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh No - brotthafroma lied to us! Said he was gone! Oh, well. Momof2, I have a german shepherd mix that does the same thing. After someone has come over 2 or 3 times and been welcomed, she stops barking and just wags at them. However she still barks at my daughters boyfriend! I told my daughter that should tell her something! LOL

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well let me see, if you go look at the blood on the ground under the tree beside mr rod's house i think you will have your answer!!
are you pullin my chain are you really this unaware!
come on!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe we should have sent Brotha's uncle's "BLEED DOGS" into the mountains of Pakistan to find Osamas and then the pitbulls with their Killer Blood Gene could be used kill him.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

freedom i think that is a sign about that boyfriend, you know they have a good sence of smell!! ha ha
they smell rats! ha

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah I'm also wanting some of them bleed dogs myself.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good idea notfromntz. You remember I'm praying for you, right?

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notfromntz you are too much!! i love it!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

o well i guess im just takin up for my friend like yall are takin up for yalls!!! and Harold man enough to take the punishment the judge gives him...and he is sorry about the whole thing but he cant do anything now but wait!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't like prayer...but if you insist...then pray that I can bring my handicap down from a 15 to a 10. Or better yet, pray that I get promoted. I am staring E-7 in the face.

Posted by jmlretired (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is amazing! Although I do not live in Natchez, I grew up there, and have known Johnny Rod most of my life. My heart goes out to him for the loss of his dog. I have two of my own, and would hate for anything to happen to them. I realize this is a forum for the people to express their views, Therefore I would like to express mine. A beloved friend and pet was needlessly lost. Nothing will change that. I hope that time will ease the pain of his loss........

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ya know....I dont' know Harold...and I don't know "Mr Rod"....I guess I'm just taking up for innocent animals.....

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the dogs are dead...you have up for deer after people kill them??NO you dont... and let the judge punish Harold for the dogs that belong to him

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

amy thats our point not so much for mr rod, but duke, if everyone could have meet this dog, they would see, he was great! so precious and sweet! to have come from where he did!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brotha you want to try that again? what are you saying?

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

momof2, my heart goes out to the family. I know exactly how the family feels. It's not fair.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks amy i will pass it on, one was on the page earlier but i think they went to bed... cause you know we just a bunch of old white people! ha ha

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hear ya, mom....that's where I need to be...and I wish the family the best. May justice be served.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You old white people must be tired. You had dinner about 3pm...you guys must be starving. ;)

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i kinda wanna meet mr rod and his dogs that are still alive...RIP DUke just to see how this man feels about his dogs...there is nothin Harold will ever be able to do to make up for this mans dead dog and he knows that...but puttin him in jail would be crazy to me thats all im sayin...i love animals to but i believe they are born knowing certain things...if you think about it most dogs have a rep for what they do...and it a know fact that most pits fight!!!

Posted by BLZBUB (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we have gotten away from the subject at hand which is bad dogs and bad owners?

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So, if you know pits have a rep for fighing....and you get one, that means you take responsibility for anything they are capable of doing....including killing.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dogs are like kids. The parents take responsibility for their kids. If a child is continuously truant from school, the parents get in trouble. If a child vandalizes a car, the parents pay. In this case, the owner of the dog is responsible for any damage their dog does.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you have no other choice but to take responsibility for something you own....but if you want the man i jail you have to be able to prove he trained the dogs to be like that...he will have to do whatever a judge decided upon though

Posted by kayce (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

momof2...If I’m not mistaking..he just compared a deer to someone's pet. Hey freedom42, if your daughter's boyfriend is black..your dog is just plain racist!! LOL!! I couldn't help myself!!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Before you make a comment that parents aren't responsible when their kids kill someone...just think of it this way. Most parents don't train their kids to be mean or kill anyone, but most pitbull owners love the fact that their animal is probably the most powerful dog. They feed off that power. That's all it is. The owner is responsible and should pay for his dog's actions.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The whole racist thing can go out the window...it should have nothin to do with this even though it may...and to all the old white people I take it back!! This should be more about the matter of what happened

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brotha i think that is the nicest thing you have said all nite and mr rod, would welcome you to meet his dogs...
oh by the way i remembered that when i went to pick my dog up from the breeder, her mother was chained because she was agressive and my dog is not! so i guess it is how you raise them...
and to those with the whole race issue i bought my pitt from a white man...
yes, us old white people have pitts too!
i agree amy you do have to take responsibility for your animals, if mine were to ever bite anyone the cops would not have to put her down i would do it myself. as herald should have done after the first attact...

Posted by djarum_black (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's the simple truth on the matter, folks....

Fighting dogs and/or training them to fight is ILLEGAL.

It's illegal because it is a cruel and inhumane practice that causes suffering and pain to living things. Even animals slaughtered for food are required to be killed in the most humane way possible. Why? Because the expectation is that we, as a society, have or should make every effort to act in an educated, enlightened, civilized manner. Dogfighting and animal abuse are incongruent with the goals and standards of an advanced society.

If you are so incapable of understanding additional societal ramifications of animal abuse as to make this a "me and my needs vs. lowly animals" issue, then let me clarify it for you.

80% of all violent criminals (rapists, murderers, serial killers) engage, or have engaged, in habitual animal abuse. Don't believe me? Try looking up "animal abuse" and "interpersonal violence" together on Google sometime.

Most animals that live in homes where domestic abuse of women and children is present, rarely live any longer than two years and usually die due to violence or neglect.

Most dog attacks are committed by dogs who have been raised in an irresponsible or unethical manner - as in, people who want dogs to be either mean, or "mean when they want them to", ignorant of the fact that the dog, while domesticated to function in a pack role with its owner, doesn't make logic or ethics-based decisions the way their human owner does. ANY effort to make a dog aggressive will result in that dog being (at least on occasion) aggressive. It's a liability that the owner takes on when training a dog to behave aggressively for ANY reason, and it's ignorant to think it never will unless you tell it to.

What does this mean to humans? If you DON'T report animal abuse it's going to cause someone, either animal, human, or both, injury at some point. It's like being an accessory to a violent crime. If you don't make animal shelters or welfare organizations a priority, there won't be enough people to come fix these problems when they arise, nor will there be any facility available to handle or take the animals. If you don't neuter/spay your animals and don't intend to breed them (and it's rather pointless unless they are purebred and registered), you're helping to create more animals that may come under the questionable "care" of someone who will do this.

I'm glad to see these people arrested - white, black, whatever.. I don't care. I don't see how people can't understand how telling it is about an individual when that individual mistreats a small creature that's subject to their whim. It's a sick person who does this to an animal, and when the problems that arise from this abuse that extend outward to other people and other animals.. well, they really shouldn't be any surprise to anyone. I wish more arrests like this happened in this county.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notfromnatchez...i know about the power my cousin had the power years ago in a parish in louisiana and he made lots of money too... him and harold are nothin alike harolds dogs were his pets!!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Are you saying your cousin had dogs he used for fighting?
So I guess it runs in the family? The Vick Family?

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I knew of my cousin fightin dogs when i was like 9 or 10 years old...back then i didnt know it was against the law or anything...to tell you the truth im scared of most dogs anyways...my aunt has a little taco bell dog that scares the $h-t out of me sometimes

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I also think you meant to say...Harold's dog WERE his pets.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chihuahua? Are you kidding me? My cat is bigger than a chihuahua.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ha yeah thats what i meant...wasn't my choice for any of the dogs to die and hate to hear it happened....if Harold is guilty but to what extent?

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guilty of not controlling his animals. YES THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notfromnatchez....do you think my aunt train that dog to chase me around the house bitin my ankles? because thats sure what it does everytime i see it!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you know what brotha i am not saying herald is a bad person but he did not do the right thing, when those dogs jumped on mr rods dogs the first time he should have at least done something but he didn't... thats my point you say he is sorry and upset about what happened but he did nothing to stop it!! made no effort to keep the dogs locked up and behind a fince.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe your aunt doesn't like you...or maybe you are bathing in bacon grease. I don't know why that dog does it. But I fully believe that if that dog really hurts you, then she is responsible.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

angie we must be neighbors! we have had several pitts loose in this area but not mine! she stays in my yard...

Posted by HappyAppy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a degree in animal science (no I do NOT claim to be an expert), in my studies I have noticed that traits like temperment and disposition, can be passed on to offspring. Not all blood lines of the Bull Terrior is vicious. Responcible breeders cull those animals from their blood lines. this is with any animal any breed. I have seen horses that were savages and would stomp you to death, or take a hunk out of you just because you were there and avalible.

If you are intrested in any of the known bitting breeds they you need to go to a REPREBLE (spelling?) breeder, but that is true with ANY breed.

It has to do with handlers as well. you can try and train a dog to fight in any breed, but if they do not have the temperment they will only defend themselves (and quite posibly die in this effort).

Any person that fights an animal has little if any respect for life. Most if not all animal fighting rings are neck deep in drugs too.

notfromnatchez- Chihuahua, are cute but very fisty! lol!!!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well momof i agree he should have done somethin about the dogs because he could tell they were violent who couldnt...and i know they are his responsibility but from what i heard it was his cousins responsibility to make sure the dogs were locked down before he left town because Harold was at work when this happened....and why didnt the police do something about it before it was to late?? so of the should have to do with them to seein how mr rod filed a report weeks earlier about anne

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chihuahuas make great footballs.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That football comment was a joke. I am not mean to animals.

I love animals they are delicious.

Posted by pitbulllover (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ay folks...i know of the dogs that killed DUKE...the dog that killed DUKE was a puppy. he was actually 10 months old

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha they do kinda look alike angie....and thanks HAPPYAPPY for your post!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i knew the dog was a puppy just didnt know how old...thanks pitlover

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's age shouldn't matter. Heck, Velocipraptors were deadly at 6 months.

Posted by pitbulllover (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

notfromnatchez- Chihuahua, are cute but very fisty! lol!!!

more like ugly lil creatures and vicious!!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

well that puppy took down an 85 lb boxer so what does that say about that puppy?
well angie i am right around the corner!! nice to meet ya nieghbor!!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

who trained them to be deadly at 6 months?

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chihuahuas are part rat.

Posted by pitbulllover (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i guess my people just dont know n e thing about pits! read a book instead of putting down harold.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NATURE FINDS A WAY. LOL.

I think I am going to go home and watch Jurassic Park.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

momof it say that that puppy was a pitbull!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

can't wait to see your come back on this one notfromntz

Posted by HappyAppy (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah sorry about all the miss spelling. I was a science major not and english one. lol!!!!!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way pitbullover...it is FEISTY not FISTY. Fisty is something you would find behind a beaded curtain at a video store.

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree with pitbulllover stop puttin down my boy Harold he i very nice kind person...and a hard workin man

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hard worker raising dogs with Killer Blood Genes.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just when things get started back up i have to go! thanks so much for all the fun interaction today and ya'll keep it going!! god bless you all and have a great nite!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, I had to leave for awhile. notfromntz - I don't even worry about my handicap! With my believe in God, everything in preordained anywhy, so why should I worry! LOL See how easy it can be? I will certainly pray for your promotion, though I am sure you will get one when the timing is right. I can be a little impatient myself, when I pray for something like that it's kind of like, I need it right now, but He has never failed me, even though I have failed Him quite often. And yes, Chihauhaus are quite the fiesty breed. They think they are mini-Pitts! My Pugs on the other hand never do anything but love you. When company comes, they are sure the people came just to see them.
kayce - that's funny! The boyfriend is somewhat racist himself, and the dog is black. HMMM?
Well, this tired old white woman is going to bed now - don't stay up talking all night - we all have to go to work tomorrow!

Posted by brothafromanothamotha (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah i guess so...

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Work tomorrow?...today is my Friday. I am on leave all next week. It's going to be like a small vacation.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on December 6, 2007 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ya'll know i said way earlier in this article this boy looks like a deer in head lights... but the more i look at this picture the more i seem to think that the officer doesn't seem to have a clue as to what he's doing either?? is he new? haha, i'm not trying to hate on the man by no means! maybe it's just the way the picture caught that moment. i don't know it just looks a lil awkward all the away around???

Posted by lnl4evah (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 4:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does racism exist? Sadly yes it does. However, sometimes there appears to more racism in social class than skin color.... Furthermore, multitudes of people use racism as a crutch instead of thriving to be successful.... I am convinced that in this great nation in which we live everyone has the opportunity to excel regardless of skin color or social class. In saying that I am closing with a few quotes from Bill Cosby in reference to the black community.

"These people are not parenting. They are buying things for their kids -- $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'...They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: Why you ain't,' Where you is'...And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk...Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads...You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."

"We can't excuse these people." "There are generations who have been born here and their English is worse than Koreans who have just been here a few years."

"These are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake, and then we run out and we are outraged, saying 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"

"I didn't say all black people from the lower classes were to blame. But I said that when you have a 50 percent graduation rate, and some people can't put two sentences together, and can't write or spell...you've got people who have put themselves on a track to failure."

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

((In14evah)) Since you're so convinced that EVERYBODY has the opportunity to excel regardless of skin color or social class (in this great nation of ours), AND I keep seeing the quote from Bill Cosby popping up, which, by the way, is being taken out of context by those of you who so freely throw it around on this forum.

Well, in saying that, I would like to close with a few quotes from Willie Lynch in reference to the Black community:

"Let us make a slave a slave. What do I need? First of all we need a black _ igger man, a pregnant _ igger woman and her baby _igger boy. Second, I will use the same basic principle that we use in the breaking of a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors."

"When we do it with horses we break them from one form of life to another; that is, we reduce them from their natural state in nature; whereas nature provides them with the natural capacity is to take care of their needs and the needs of their offspring, we break that natural string of independence from them and thereby create a dependency state so that we may be able to get from them useful production for our business and pleasure . . . ."

Now, the next time you post Bill Cosby's comments here, I'll post a few more of Willie Lynch's quotes to the White community about the Black community. That way, we can keep it in perspective and not lose sight of why some things are the way they are . . . even today.

Don't throw daggers this way!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, let me add a few more of Willie's quotes:

"I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves, and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use FEAR, DISTRUST, and ENVY for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies, and it will work throughout the SOUTH. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On the top of my list is "AGE" but it is only there because it starts with an "A"; The second is"COLOR" or shade; there is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZE OF PLANTATION, ATTITUDE of owner, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, east or west, north, south, have fine or coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action- but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST, AND ENVY IS STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION.

The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands.

Don't forget you must pitch the old black VS. the young black males, and the young black male against the old black male. You must use the dark skinned slaves VS. the light skin slaves. You must use the female VS the male, and the male VS, the female. You must always have your servants and OVERSEERS distrust all blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us."

" . . . The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands."

WHEN YOU SWALLOW THAT AND REGURGITATE IT, I HAVE SOME MORE FOR YA!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

****** " . . . The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands." ******

My message FOR ALL YOU HATERS: DIE AND GO TO HELL . . . LEAVE US IN PEACE!

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh give it a break, All peoples are slaves to something or other. If you are a workaholic then you are a slave to work or a mother who slaves in the home for her family, The addict or alchoholic is a slave to his or her addiction. You have people who are a slave to food, money, gambling etc... The difference is some of these masters are leagle and some are not. It is a choice to be a slave or to break free... If you want to sit around on your pity pot and smear the guano over yourself over and over by crying it's a race issue or a society issue yet you stay in the problem and not work on a solution then you have no one to blame but yourself!

Posted by Idefinitelymight (Tom Scarborough) on December 7, 2007 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For God's sake people--why does seemingly every thread on this forum eventually turn into racial acrimony, regardless of what the article is about? The article was about a DOG attack, folks. Nowhere in its paragraphs do I recall reading anything about race and class. No ethnic group or social class has a monopoly on lowlife behavior. When I read the posts some of you leave on these forums, I am embarrassed for my city. And you wonder why the rest of the country continues to hold negative stereotypes of the South?!

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good morning all! I have on question before I start my work day. So Harold didn't or forgot to chain his dogs, does that make him a bad person? No, I don't think so, but if he did teach them how to fight that is wrong. But that doesn't make him bad? So if a man was in a rodeo and catches a goat or a calf by the neck with his rope and the rope snapped his neck, then is the man on horse bad. Horses are trained to run that way so you can rope these animals and goats and calfs are sacrificed. Dog fighting and rodeo sporting (whatever you call it) are both sports. One is leagal and the other one isn't, but in both sports animals are killed. I don't agree the bad people own bad dogs. I know some who have bad dogs to protect their property. If Harold had trained those dogs to fight and they remained locked up or chained, he wouldn't be the villian. Just so happen a precious pet of someone was killed, and Harold lost his pets also.

I know I am going to get bashed now, but that thought just came to me. I am sorry of the lose of all the dogs. You all have a nice day. Okay? Don't talk about me too bad.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

((Idenfinitelymight)) that's exactly why I wrote what I wrote. I'm so tired of folks being AN AUTHORITY on the Black community and quoting what Bill Cosby said, as if it applies to ALL Black people AND explains EVERYTHING.

((LdyBreez)) who and what are you talking about?????

Posted by LdyBreez (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am talking about the slave comments above. Slavery as it stood 100 years ago no longer exists.... But it has changed forms... We are all slaves to something and today it is a choice we make to remain slaves or choose another direction...

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, he does still have his job at Stine. His boss was informed of the situation. This young man did not get arrested at STine and it had nothing to do with Stine. There are no grounds for dismissal.

Posted by coacht (T.BOB KIRK) on December 7, 2007 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JUST ANOTHER LOVELY DAY IN THE HOOD. ARE WE HAVING FUN YET. TODAY IS MY DAY OFF. ARE YOU USING WORK TIME TO PLAY ON THE INTERNET. SHAME ON YOU

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

morning all.... I see all this has NOT been laid to rest...

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Not a chance truth. Good morning.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey myo, Ldybreez, angie, etc, etc.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Morning Peace. how are you all today?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just fine but i won't be here long. Just jumped on for a sec. Hope you are all having a great Friday so far.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oh, yeah! I get to go pay some bills! Fun!

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's hard to find anything to gripe about on Fridays..... 'cause, well, it's FRIDAY!!!! unless you have to work tomorrow.... sorry : (

Posted by chrimberly (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LdyBreez, I agree with you. Slavery means something different in our time. The quotes that ijohnson was writing were from the 1700s. I don't think that is a good argument for this day and age.

Posted by myopinion (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok. I am back from lunch. I don't know how longI can stay b/c we have a big project that has to g FedEx today.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are well over 400 hundred comments on this article. With great patience I have read them all. I have wasted all this time trying to make sense of some of the opinions, which was a little hard to do, while a great many of them was a complete failure at making any sense at all. Why intelligent adults would sit at their computer and argue as you all have done today is just pitiful. I have had great respect for most of you in the past and have enjoyed most of your comments, but today, you have sadly shown a great deal of complete and foolish idiotic behavior. We are losing many of our posters because of this type of behavior and I plead with you to control yours. I would hate to lose this great space because of embarrassing behavior which most of you have displayed today. You know of whom I am referring. Please act like adults.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Destiny....Thank you for your post of 12:49pm. I agree with you wholeheartedly. This article had absolutely nothing to do with black and white, slaves and non-slaves, whether Harold was a good person or not. I'm impressed that he's said to be a hard working man. This story got out of line from the get go. Harold was arrested as a result of Mr. Rodriguez being bitten in the first incident by the same pits, and how the system did not work too resolve the issue. Had people responsible, done their job, all of this could have been avoided, we'd still have Duke and Harold would still have his dogs. The one comment that I will stand firm on is that Harold and Eric's' dogs WERE NOT pets. Thank you for reading all of these posts so patiently. I'd like to meet you some day.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey girl. What's up???

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If i disappear don't take it personally. All i can do is jump on and off today for awhile.

Posted by HappyAppy (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It really does not have anything to do with race, I know of pleanty of "white trash" that fight dogs too.

Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Peace! HUGS

Posted by SIOUXLADY (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have been reading all of this, and Everyone has an opinion that is to be respected. HOWEVER, THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE. "IT IS BETTER TO BE THOUGHT A FOOL IN SILENCE, THAN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT". THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY BEFORE YOU WRITE IT DOWN.

SOME OF YOU TALK LIKE FOOLS AND I AM SURE YOU ACT THE SAME WAY. LET'S JUST SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT, THEN YOU CAN SAY I TOLD YOU SO.

PEACE

Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Happy, you are right.
i mean I do not know anyone that fights dogs, but I am sure it knows no racial bounderies.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

O-o-o-o-o-w-w-e-e, seems like I missed quite a bit while I was gone!

((destiny, brod, LdyBreez)) and to whomever it applies, you voice your opinion and I have voiced mine. Don't really care if you enjoyed reading it but those are the facts, whether 1700 or 2007 -- some things have still remained the same. There are some things that are more complex and not as superficial as people want to make it seem.

It appears the posting of Willie Lynch's comments put a stop to what was a tit-for-tat that transpired almost all day yesterday and spilling over onto this morning. That was my intent -- to put a stop to it. I DID IT FOR SHOCK VALUE, and it seems to have worked, or at least for a little while. Or, maybe some of you have spent the remainder of the morning researching "Willie Lynch" to see if I was making up all this stuff.

There is SO MUCH wrong with ALL OF US . . . "let he without sin cast the first stone", right?!?!?! I've read all the comments posted on this article, too. Lots of demeaning and stereotypical comments coming from a bunch of you. You know of whom I am referring.

It was just a fly in my ointment this morning when I woke up to it. My comments were not pertaining to slavery, that's not even close to why I posted the statements made by Willie Lynch. However, there are those of you, on this forum, who chose to throw Bill Cosby's words out there in this "holier than thou" manner, almost every time there is an issue involving wrongdoing with a Black American. And you do it maliciously.

You folks who post Bill Cosby's comments don't give a rat's a$$ about what's going on in the Black community. You only want to add fuel to the fire while you hide behind your fictitious names here on this forum.

I consider myself to be a very open-minded, fair and rational-thinking person but I'm passionate about my people. People who attack me or the Black community without just cause or in a vicious way will probably hear from me. So, if that makes any of you uncomfortable, so be it. However, you can save your tongue-lashing for your kids. Admonish your kids or those you can control. Admonish those who bicker back and forth and call each other all kinds of names on these forums when you're discussing issues that are going on in your little community -- who murdered their mother, who was the drunk driver, who shot who, who is bipolar, who is the meth and drug addict, who is a wife-beater . . . it goes on and on and on . . . happens almost every day. However, I haven't heard you complain about their embarrasing and childish behavior. Or, better yet, hold your own tongue when you get on here a strongly state your case in whatever fashion and manner YOU choose.

Just like so many of you, I don't mince my words and I don't feel that I have to pacify anybody. I am who I am and I mean what I say -- like it or not!

So, let's move on!

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ijohnson, I like that. I really like that. Girl, you hit the nail on the head with that one. God Bless you.

Posted by james (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SEEMS TO ME YOU DON,T CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY JUST THE BLACK COMMUNITY !AND THAT MAKES YOU A RACIST!

Posted by itsawounderfullife (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am proud to be an American!!!!

Posted by james (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YES I AM TOO! AND WAS RAISED TO SEE PEOPLE FOR THERE WORK AND NOT THERE COLOR!

Posted by chrimberly (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ijohnson, i'm glad to see that you care about your fellow man so much. I think everyone should stop thinking about this as if it were a racial issue. Everyone has gotten almost completly off the real subjuct. I also agree with you on the Bill cosby subject. I don't know if they meant well or not, but it kinda does make it sound like all black people are delinquents. I didn't like that because I have so many good sweet friends that are black and they are like family to me. And to anyone who posted about Cosby, You may not have meant anything by it. Please don't take it that way.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is to Ijohnson. I just read that Willie Lynch speech out of curiosity, and I did not know that. Man, I just got a history lesson today. Wow!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know I had something in mind to write, but I don't think I really want to touch this. The article is about dogs who are now dead, people who could have prevented it, and everyone has an opinion. I would really like to know why race is brought into everything. I have NEVER attacked the black community. But you ijohnson, seem determined to attack all white people. Who the hedouble l is Willie Lynch and why should I care? I even harbor doubts that Bill Cosby wrote the article that is so often quoted. But whoever wrote it has a lot of truth in it, not only for blacks but whites. ALL our young people need to know how to communicate, dress, and get along with others of all races.
If they don't get guidance at home or school, where are they getting it!? From the media, the steets, who knows where? And who are going to be our future leaders? Not these kids I hope. Oh, well I guess I did write what I was thinking.

Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol freedom42... I think that's what gets us in trouble on here... all the thinking...............

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look, ((freedom42)), I did not and have not ever brought up the race issue on any of these forums. I just don't operate like that. However, I will set the records straight if I have to and state my position.

How can you even fix your mouth to say or cramp your fingers up enough to type that I "seem determined to attack all white people"? It seems to be just the opposite!!! Since we've been down that road before ((freedom42)), I really don't care to venture there again. So, I'll just stop here.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I work by myself most of the time, so I have all day to think! LOL

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great ijohnson, me too.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((drawpaintsing)) Yeah, a lot of people don't know this important fact that greatly affected our history AND US. Those who do know about Willie Lynch choose not to mention it. But, sometimes it does the soul good to remember where we've been, what we've been through, what we've had to endure as a people, how we got to where we are today, and what still needs to be done.

I make no apologies for how I feel or what I say. Nobody tells the Jews to shut up and forget about the Holocaust. And the Jews make it clear that "THEY WILL NEVER FORGET". Why should we????

I don't spend my days thinking about what happened back in the days of slavery. And I'm not going to spend any days or nights thinking about folks who want me to forget what has brought us to a virtual fist-fight here, today. The fact that racism is alive and well in America.

//(*_*)\\ Well, I just remembered my opening post on this thread. I stated that "I don't have a dog in this fight!" Well, I guess I got dragged into the melee, anyway. Oh well, that's life!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brother2Brother is the first person that brought the issue of race into the whole thing. I watched it all go bad from there when he did.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, ((peacerulz)) he did and the whole thread was pretty much shot to hell from there!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you for letting me point that out ijohnson. It just went down from there.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So, now that we've fought like dogs on this thread, (like brothers and sisters do) I guess there's nothing else to do but kiss and make up! //(*_*)\\

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OBITUARY : "Duke" 4 year old family pet of Johnny Rodriguez, attacked, mutilated, and killed at his residence Dec. 5, 2007. He was loved and cherished by his human family and by his companion and playmate "Angel." The Rodriguez home will never be the same. Duke was a gentle loving boxer. Always curious but never aggressive. He would greet you at the door with sniffs and licks. He came to the Rodriguez home underfed, neglected, and starved for attention and kindness. That's just what he received. He stayed by Johnny's' side when in the house, he slept next to Johnny every night. He was devoted to his master. He rode around town with Johnny and Angel. He went to card games with Johnny, and enjoyed getting more attention and goodies from all those at the game. He was much, much more than just a dog. He was a member of this family. Why did he have to die so violently? Why did the Judge not take care of business as he was elected to do? All of this could have been avoided. I cannot let this wonderful pet have died in vain. At this time, legally, he is considered a piece of property. A television is property as is a refrigerator, etc. That kind of property does not respond to affection and does not return affection. DUKE wasn't just a dog or property. Steps are in process to see that incidences like this can't happen anymore. Suppose this had been a child, grandchild, or an elderly person. Then what? This was more than a leash law violation.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's all we can do ijohnson. Even brothafromanotha was starting to come around last night. lol

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've got to run!! I need to go pick up my sister's Scottish Terrier, Prince, from the groomers and dog-sit for the weekend! But he's a cutie . . . a big baby. Keeping him and Trina, my Llasa Apso, apart just wears me out. She tries to tear him to pieces if he comes too close to her back side. He's black, she's white -- he's a Scottie, she's a Llasa Apso -- we don't want any cross-breeding going on here! //(*_*)\\

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just read your post brod. How sad. Poor Duke.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are bad ijohnson. lol

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brod that is so nice of you.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you have a great sense of humor ijohnson!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, I've been told I have a "sunny" disposition!!!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((brod)) thanks for posting Duke's obituary. Such a sad situation. Hopefully, Mr. Rodriguez' heavy heart will get lighter with each passing day.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That poor man's gonna be so lonely. Hope he recovers.

Posted by amyrenene (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 6:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do feel sorry for Mr Rodriguez. I know my dog turned 7 years old on the 4th of this month. I feel like, in a way, we have grown up together. He is a part of my family. I would be devastated if something happened to him. I would never wish that on anyone. I thought the obit for Duke was very nice.

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey ya'll, read something today, Did you know that it is a
FELONY in the state of Mississippi to Own, Fight and get this; this is my favorite part of the article, It's also a FELONY,
TO WATCH DOGS FIGHT...
And here's an even better tid-bit of news, there is a Fed. agency that offers a reward (starting at $2500.00) for any information about these Dog Fighting Rings...
Don't forget! FELONY, That's good to know, don't you think?

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WHOA Yeah thanks for that info momof2!!!!

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This guy might be in for it.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like the police are going to get some help after all. With $2500 on the table for turning somebody in, I'm going to dust my binoculars off and put my moccasins on!

Posted by TRON601 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The level of emphasis and attention that people, and nation as a whole can put on something as overly simple as dog fighting is amazing, as opposed to some of the other situations that have come to pass. Its obvious that people can treat animals better than other people in some cases. Heres a little something to help you all understand what Im getting at here.

MICHAEL VICK + FIGHTING DOGS COUPLED WITH 18 MONTHS IN FEDERAL PRISON = ENDED NFL CAREER, LOST MULTIPLE ENORSEMENT CONTRACTS, AND A BAD REPUTATION= ONE BROKE BROTHA AS OPPOSED TO

MURDER 1ST DEGREE= NOTHING (8 MONTHS + A SLAP ON THE WRIST)
=ONE HAPPY PHYSCO WALKING THE STREETS.

GET MY POINT PEOPLE? IT SEEMS WE WOULD RATHER NATIONALIZE DAILY FOR FIVE MONTHS, THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY WAS INVOLVED IN DOG-FIGHTING. BUT HIT OR MISS ON THE THINGS THAT ARE CERTAINLY MORE IMPORTANT, AND MORE-SO NEED FEDERAL INVTERVENE. LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE SOMEBODY GOT THE LUXURY OF GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER BY ONLY GETTING EIGHT MONTHS. OR THE FACT THAT THERE WERE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVING THE STREETS WITHOUT LICENSE OR A U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND COMMITTING HIT AND RUNS. WHEN THEY GOT CAUGHT, WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING. THE MAYOR OF THAT CITY LET THEM GO IN THE END. OR EVEN MORE-SO, THE YOUNG GIRL THAT WAS HELD HOSTAGE, FED FECES, AND FORCED TO LIVE IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND FOR A LITTLE OVER A WEEK. WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY COMING TO? I WONDER. BUT AS SOME OF YOU HAVE SAID, YOU'RE PROUD TO BE FREE. I ONLY WISH IT WAS FROM STUPIDITY AS WELL. BUT OBVIOUSLY, ITS NOT. ITS OBVIOUS THAT SOME OF US ARE CERTAINLY FREE FROM THE LAW. BUT THEN, EVEN THE LAW HAS DOUBLE STANDARDS. OR MAYBE ITS JUST ME. NONETHELESS, THIS IS THE LAND OF THE FREE. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE HERE. EVEN GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER ONE. HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON NATCHEZ!!!!

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tron601 you're right, think about what you just said, now trace it back to the sorce, there's a judge out there somewhere NOT doing his job. Do you agree?

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Love the way he acts as if we ignore all of these things.

Posted by MsKitty39120 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

my heart goes out to him i lost my dog a black Lab a few months a go and now i have a 14 week old Boxer they are sweet dogs..

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HappyAppy you said eariler you knew some trashy white people that fight pitts, You could have some extra Christmas $, Turn em over to the Feds.
If we ban together, we could bannish this (sport?)
I personally think these men need wives or girlfriends,
or maybe they all need Viagra,(they certainly need something better to do with their time.)

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree. I mean where does this come from? Did they grow up watching this in their neighborhoods, from their friends, where does this come from and how do we stop it?

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it all started with some man with the Napoleon complex.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

little man's complex. lol. you are bad ijohnson.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, baby, BAD TO THE B-O-N-E!!! lol

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so are you momof2.

Posted by peacerulz (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

down to the bone.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, ((momof2)) you're bad to the bone, too!! Maybe they're too "fisty" (or was that "fiesty")????? //(*_*)\\

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ijohnson you could have just hit on something!
Little Man Syndrone, "Napoleon Complex, Little Man Complex, ETC. They all mean the same thing "LITTLE MAN".
LOL, we are all being too bad...

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Both!!! ijohnson

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One more thought and I'm done being bad,
Do you think that maybe they don't like women at all, and maybe it's all about being with their BOY Friends and their dogs? Could it be, they're GAY(not that there's anything wrong with that) I'm just saying...It's food for thought!HhhhMMMMMM!!!
Ya think?

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

your explanation ijohnson for "fisty" last night had me rolling!! TOO HILARIOUS and prob too true

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Remember yesterday someone posted a comment about the Chihuahua being "fisty" but they meant "fiesty"!! Then, somebody took it a ran with it -- it became a joke about a fisty man behind beaded curtains in an adult bookstore or someplace. T-o-o funny.

I think quite a few of them are too full of themselves -- that's the problem! They need to loosen up the fist a little bit.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah ((momof2)) there's too much of the BOY>>BOY, MAN>>MAN stuff. Just a little too close for comfort. Maybe they love their rough and tough dogs so much because they can so-closely identify with them by their nature. Ya think????

Beasty . . . Beasty -- Doggish . . . Doggish!!!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you are a hoot

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How does Elvis' song go??? "You ain't nothing but a hound dog . . . "

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Lord, No ijohnson, No real Man fights dogs!
A person that fights dogs is not a man, he's a mouse (a coward) behind a dog that he has trained to kill.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no ijohnson I think it goes "You ain't nothin but a bleed dog"

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

apparently the difference is a blood hound can pick a certain scent but a bleed hound....well you have to have bled all over the place first before he can track you down.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do believe ijohnson and I can finally agree on something! lol Most men are WAY too full of themselves - and think all we women should think about is them.

Posted by margaret95 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brother2brother I really hope that you just suck at typing, if thats how you honestly talk you need Hooked On Phonics. This is about dogs not race. Why is it that no matter what the situation we always resort to the racism thing? That kind of outlook is why we can't move forward in the south. I don't care what color you are fightin dogs is WRONG. Just as everything else in this town, this too will fade away & nothin will happen.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not to change the subject, but did anyone hear of the wreck on 61 N. this afternoon. It involved Supervisor Spanky Felter and another man. What I heard is that the other man crossed from one lane to the other in front of Felter and was hit. I saw the wreck but didn't know who was in it until later. I would guess Felters truck was totaled - don't know about the other vehicle, don't know if anyone was seriously injured.

Posted by brod (anonymous) on December 7, 2007 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No margaret95...We can't let it go...This ball has got to keep rolling...If this fades away, we've accomplished nothing. We need animal cops like they have in Miami. We don't have anything close, but, we've got to start somewhere. Support the local Humane Society. Keep your eyes open. If you see anyone keeping animals that you feel is abusing, starving, and fighting them, it's your responsibility to call the authorities. This must stop.

Posted by BLZBUB (anonymous) on December 8, 2007 at 2:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WE ARE ALL WATCHING

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on December 8, 2007 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey freedom42 hear anything else about the wreck? Must have been a night time wreck huh?

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on December 8, 2007 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The wreck was about 3:30 because I was trying to get home so my son could use my truck to go to work as his car is having some problems. Don't know why the Democrat didn't pick it up since it involved a supervisor.
Brod - I would love to be an Animal Cop! Abuse of any kind makes me soooooooo MAD! I volunteered for the CASA program once, for abused kids. I was asked what my reaction would be if I was told by a judge that one of the kids had to be returned to their home, with the abuser still there, and shooting the abuser was NOT one of my options, I decided that I could not deal with that scenario.

Posted by margaret95 (anonymous) on December 8, 2007 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OH I AGREE WE DO NEED ANIMAL COPS, BUT COME ON WE CAN'T EVEN GET ENOUGH COPS TO PROTECT HUMANS!!! I DO REPORT ANIMAL ABUSE, THE JOB I HAVE HAS ME ON T HE ROAD ALOT & I REPORT ANIMAL ABUSE TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPT & TO THE LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTERS. THE FEW TIMES THAT I HAVE REPORTED IT I HAVE WENT BACK TO CHECK & THE ANIMALS ARE STILL THERE WITH NO VISIBLE CHANGES!!!

Posted by madpop (anonymous) on December 9, 2007 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just to let a few people know pit bulls are not an orignal breed they were created from a bull terrier and a mastiff these animals were bred like this to fight bulls and bears in a ring in the early 17 hundreds. what a person uses them for today depends on that persons morals

Posted by momof2 (anonymous) on December 10, 2007 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For those of you that are serious about doing something about this problem! (Problem being-Dog Fighting in Natchez and Adam's County)
Let's Contact our local athorities and find out what we need to do to get our local Animal control the help needed to "Ban Dog Fighting all to gether)
If it's stiffer fines and punishments that we need, then let's get it!

Posted by Glad2BOut (Marc Robson) on December 11, 2007 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Willie Lynch - ipjohnson - it doesn't take much effort to discover Willie Lynch is a HOAX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Lync...

"No provenance for the speech has ever been supplied, and the text as given below contains numerous anachronisms ("self-refueling", for example, since the word "refueling" dates only to the early twentieth century, or "fool proof", a word not attested until the early twentieth century). For these reasons, along with others, historians such as William Jelani Cobb of Spelman College consider the Willie Lynch speech to be an internet hoax.[4]"

hmmmm, Who would gain from perpetuating the idea that slave owners 300 years ago are the reason for lack of ambition today????

ipjohnson, are you too lazy to look this up yourself? OR you blindly believe everything Farrakahn says? OR you know its false, but find it convenient to advance your goals?

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