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Police tape forbids entry to 1-C Sixth St. where Doug Fleming was alledgedly stabbed to death late Wednesday evening by his wife of one week Yvette Williams.
Police: Woman killed husband
Published Friday, August 1, 2008
NATCHEZ — A Natchez woman is facing murder charges for the alleged stabbing to death of the man she married a week ago.
Douglas Fleming, 42, 1-C Sixth St., was reportedly stabbed once in the chest by Yvette Williams, 41, 1-C Sixth St.
Williams called the Natchez Police Department at 11:06 p.m. and advised them she and her husband had been arguing and she stabbed him, Police Chief Mike Mullins said.
Robert Campbell, one of the couple’s neighbors, said he was outside, getting ready to leave, when he saw Fleming coming out of her apartment.
“She came outside and I noticed she was standing out by the stairway and crying,” he said.
Campbell said he has heard the couple argue in the past and just thought she was upset after a fight.
As he approached her to see what was wrong, he said she walked past on the telephone, asking why police officers and an ambulance hadn’t arrived yet.
He said he noticed a lot of blood on her hands.
Campbell said from that moment on, Williams never re-entered the house.
“She was (too) traumatized to go back inside,” he said of the woman who was visibly upset.
He said another one of the neighbors went into the apartment to check on Fleming.
“He was dead before the ambulance came,” Campbell said. “She walked back and said ‘I didn’t mean to do it, I didn’t mean to it, he was jumping on me,” Campbell said.
Campbell said the couple had only been living in that apartment for about four months.
Campbell said he remembers them coming back from their wedding reception last Saturday and how happy they seemed.
“You can’t judge a book by it’s cover,” he said.
Mullins confirmed that when officers arrived at the scene, Fleming was dead inside the apartment.
Williams has been charged with murder.
Fleming has a criminal history including an Aug. 4, 2007, arrest for simple assault, domestic violence.
He pleaded guilty and was convicted of the charge Aug. 6. He was sentenced to serve 30 days in jail and one year of probation.
Also, in October of 2007, an arrest warrant was issued for Fleming for telephone harassment.
Mullins said the victim who signed the warrant was not Williams.
No bond will be set for Williams until arraignment.
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Posted by thick1982 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I know Robert Campbell and he will tell it like it is
Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ok... was i told a false story last night.. my dad lives in natchez still and a family member told him that 2 kids got ahold of a 'tazer' ((the type police use)) well one child used it on another and he died.. suppose to have happened out in cranfield yesterday.... i'm looking for the story don't see it.. some one clear it up for me..
Posted by charliebug5865 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
why cant these women choose better partners? i dont think she will have to worry about him "jumping on her" anymore! young ladies do not marry these abusive men, trust me it only gets worse after the "I DO PART"! This is just the way it is,they think they own you before you marry them, but afterwards, is when they really think they can beat ya a--! this is really sad, she could only get away from getting beat by using an equalizer. I am sure she did not think she was gonna kill him, considering what the ND reported. i feel bad for all involved,& my heart goes out to both families! LADIES,YOUNG GIRLS, ANYBODY WHO HAS TO ENDURE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,VERBAL ABUSE,OR ANY TYPE OF MENTAL OR PHYSICAL ABUSE, GET OUT PLEASE AND ALERT THE LOCAL AUTHORITIES ABOUT YOUR SITUATION, STAY OUT, ONCE YOUR OUT! THIS GOES BOTH WAYS, FOR THE MALES TOO, I AM NOT TRYING TO LABEL JUST THE MEN IN THESE SITUATIONS, ITS JUST MORE COMMON TO SEE!
Posted by Godschild77 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
May God be with the family during this tragic episode. May heart felt sympathies go out to you. Mrs Ree, God will have the last say in this; Be strong and believe that there is a brighter day ahead of all of this.
Much love,
S. Oliver
Posted by lookingout (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
does anyone know what buttercup26 is talking about.....if its true why isnt that in the paper
Posted by cchat123 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Charliebug5865...this is textbook domestic violence. Ever heard of learned helplessness?
So for the sake of intellect, don't make silly assumptions and statements like "why women are unable to select better partners?"
Loving someone good or indifferent....the outcome is driven by factors others may not see.
Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, so they just got married. I wonder if he had life insurance or a nice 401k that he just signed over. Put up with it that long then kill him after your married. Sounds suspicious to me.
Posted by harvest1 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is so sad. My wife and I ask questions all the time in our kids relationships, even if it's a friend. Abuse can be in any situation. They are grown now, but they still belong to us. From the cradle to the grave. No one has the right to abuse anyone, mental,or physical, or racial. When we see anything in their relationships that is leading to abuse, we advise "cut the relationship off".
So far they listen. Thank God. My prayers are for both sides.
Posted by charliebug5865 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
THE OUTCOME IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT!!! IF SHE ALREADY KNEW SHE HAD TO CALL THE COPS BEFORE THIS HAPPENED AND BEFORE SHE MARRIED HIM. I COULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT BEING DRIVEN BY FACTORS OVER ENDLESS ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS. I THANK GOD EVERYDAY FOR A WONDERFUL, LOVING HUSBAND, AFTER MANY FAILED ABUSIVE ONES!(relationships) AFTER BEING ABUSED AS A CHILD, ITS VERY EASY TO FALL PREY TO BEING A VICTIM! SURELY AT SOME POINT SHE OR THEY REALIZED THE PATTERN OF ABUSE, SEEK COUNSELING, THERAPY OR JUST PLAIN COMMON SENSE, ANYTHING TO HELP THEM OR HER REALIZE, THIS MAY BE "TILL DEATH DO US PART"OR NOT. IT IS NOT SILLY TO ASSUME THIS ONE INCIDENT IS GONNA FOLLOW HER THE REST OF HER LIFE, PROBABLY HAUNT HER THE REST OF HER LIFE, CAUSE BY HER OWN HAND, SHE WACKED THE MAN SHE SUPPOSEDLY LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY! I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE FAMILY OF THE VICTIM, ALSO TO THIS YOUNG LADY, WHILE SHE WAS DEFENDING HERSELF,IT ALWAYS GOES TOO FAR! I, PERSONNALLY DO NOT KNOW THESE PEOPLE, WHAT I DO KNOW IS IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED!!! THERAPY, MARRIGE COUNSELING,ETC. THERE IS WAY TOO MANY FOLKS WHO THINK THIS IS LAME!!! IT DOES WORK, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, WHERE THERE IS A PROBLEM, THERE IS ALWAYS A SOLUTION, YOU JUST HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO START. THE AWARENESS OF THIS COUPLES TROUBLES SHOULD HAVE SENT UP RED FLAGS EVERYWHERE, FAMILY MEMBERS, FRIENDS, EVEN THE NEIGHBORS, SO YOU ARE THE SILLY PERSON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Give the woman some help, make her a better person and give her some probation. I do not know her or the deceased but she sounds like the kind that endured a lot before she snapped.
I hope the families will be able to move forward. I understand that it will be hard, but they can do it.
Posted by lfleming87 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CHARLIEBUG5865...1ST YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOT APPRECIATED! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SO THEREFORE YOU SHOULD KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF! QUESTION: DO YOU KNOW THE VICTIM OR THE MURDERER? HOW DO YOU KNOW IF HE WAS ABUSING HER? DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER BECAUSE OF HIS PAST BECAUSE YOU REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT THE SITUATION WAS! DO YOU KNOW HER PAST? DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF PERSON SHE IS? JUST BECAUSE THE PAPER PRINTED HIS BACKGROUND AND NOT HERS DOES NOT MEAN THAT SHE WAS AS GOOD AS GOLD! YOU KNOW SOMETHING YOU MAY THINK YOU KNOW A PERSON BUT YOU NEVER REALLY FIND THAT PERSON OUT UNTIL SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS! BUT I GUESS EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION, BUT I JUST PRAY THAT EVERYONE HAS SOME SYMPATHY FOR MY FAMILY AS WELL AS HERS!
Posted by lfleming87 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
REDUSMFAN...WHY GIVE HER SOME HELP? IF SHE KNEW THAT SHE DIDNT WANT TO BE WITH HIM WHY DID SHE MARRY HIM FROM THE START? AND HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT IT TOOK A LOT FOR HER TO SNAP? IT IS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS FOR US TO MOVE ON BUT WE WILL GET THROUGH IT AND I THINK WE WILL GET THROUGH IT BETTER WITHOUT YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS! BUT WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT!
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
AGAIN SHE WAS CHARGED WITH MURDER, WHY NOT SELF DEFENSE THE NEW LAW IS KIND OF CLEAR ON SOMEONE BREAKING INTO YOUR HOUSE AND YOU KILLING THEM, SO WHY NOT SELF DEFENSE IF SHE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO HURT HER LOVE TO SIT ON THIS JURY NEXT WEEK THE SAME KIND OF CASE GOES TO TRIAL WHERE LADY KILLED A MAN LETS SEE WHAT A JURY DOES TO HER IF HE THREATENED HER I AM FOR INNOCENT
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lfleming,
You need to step back and look at this from a truly objective viewpoint. I understand that you are hurting right now and you probably are just lashing-out any way you can. I will not be offended if you do not agree with me. It is your right. it is my right to look at it from m y perspective and to have my opinion.
This is america, we have the right to our own opinion, even if we do not agree.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why was the comments on the 2 boys disabed?
Amen redusmfan...
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am not sure why they disabled the comments, but it was degrading into a name calling session and just got completely class-less....
Posted by ladybuggs (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
is this lady relative to christene williams who shot and killed the father of her 2 kids back in the late 80's. the guy she killed was a police officer for npd.she only did about one year in the county jail for his murder.then a couple of years ago christene's 1st cousin shot her live in boyfriend in the back.he's now in a wheelchair .and still living together.love is blind .williams girls seems 2 be violent.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no doubt ladybuggs.
Posted by brown911 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ntz Democrat kindly posted his background, but what about hers? She was charged with killing her 1st husband in Illinois. So, before anyone make assumption that he was abusive, what the h--- was she? BLACK WIDOW!!!!!
Posted by padlock (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 10:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder if the neighbors heard them arguing the night of the murder, or could we assume he was sleeping when she stabbed him and called 911 to claim it was self defense, NPD, PROSECUTOR OR WHOEVER DO NOT LET HER GET AWAY WITH THIS.
Was she checked out for fresh bruises or scars, because if there are none, this had to be premeditated murder.
This is why we should run background checks just like employers do to see if you are dealing with some crazy psyco, schizophernia, bipolar person, or perhaps someone who has been in prison for a few years or if that individual is a sex offender!!!!!!!!
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)
Does anyone know anything about this?
Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on August 1, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ok... was i told a false story last night.. my dad lives in natchez still and a family member told him that 2 kids got ahold of a 'tazer' ((the type police use)) well one child used it on another and he died.. suppose to have happened out in cranfield yesterday.... i'm looking for the story don't see it.. some one clear it up for me..
Posted by cooper3k1 (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 12:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
She killed her first husband...wow! That's probably not going to help her with this!
Posted by toosweet23 (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Stop it, these comments are outrageous! Don't you know there is a family out there hurting? If I stabbed somebody that I argued with, I would have stabbed nearly one half of Natchez. You hear of domestic violence everyday, more times than twice. Where is all the physical abuse? If you are physical abused, then where is the proof. No scars, no bruises, no black eyes. The proof is in the pudding. She is just someone who loves knives. I pray that the Fleming family can get over this and move on. If she killed twice, then she will probably kill again. For arguing. A mistake is when you do something, and don't do it again. if she killed one and it was a mistake, then she kills again, IS is a mistake too.
Posted by charliebug5865 (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
AS I ALREADY SAID "MY HEART & MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO BOTH FAMILIES",THIS IS TRAGIC, I DO SO APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE I MAY HAVE OFFENDED,LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WHETHER YOU ARE A MAN OR A WOMAN, IF YOU ARE IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, GET OUT BEFORE TRAGEDY STRIKES, THIS IN MY BOOK, IS NOT LOVE, SOME TYPE OF CO-DEPENDENCY!!!! TO ALL OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS, NO, I DONT KNOW EITHER OF THEM. I WONDER IF YOU ALL WOULD FEEL BETTER IF I SAID, SHOULD HAVE BEEN HER TRANSPORTED TO THE MORGUE, INSTEAD OF THE HUSBAND!! I DO BELEIVE THAT IF YOU UNCONDITIONALLY LOVE YOUR SPOUSE, YOU WOULD NOT RAISE A HAND TO THEM! MEANWHILE, I WILL PRAY FOR BOTH FAMILIES TO BE UPLIFTED, AND LET THE DETECTIVES & JURIES DO THE JUDGING. MY COMMENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN TAKEN, AS IF I AM FOR MURDER, AS FOR ME I AM FOR JUSTICE! THIS IS ANOTHER TRAGIC INCIDENT, THAT COULD HAVE WENT THE OTHER WAY, OR, BEEN AVOIDED, ESPECIALLY W/ ALL THE KNOWLEDGE YOU FOLKS HAVE PROVIDED, SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW IT ALL,SO IN DEFENSE OF THE STABBED VICTIM, DO YOUR PART. INSTEAD OF TELLING OTHER PEOPLE THEY DO NOT KNOW. I KNOW PLENTY ABOUT IT, AND IF YOU WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH,TOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY RED FLAGS, THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED, THE WIFE WOULDNT BE IN JAIL, THE HUSBAND WOULD BE ALIVE. AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO THE FAMILY OF THE FLEMINGS, MY DEEPEST HEARTFELT SYMPATHY GOES OUT TO YOU & YOUR FAMILY, AT THE SAME TIME, ALSO FOR THE WIFES FAMILY & FOR HER!
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Natchez Dixiecrap at work .
Posted by ladybuggs (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
the nd stated ms.williams said he was jumping on her, her hair doesn't seem to be out of place from the picture in the newspaper on yesterday.her face didn't so any remorse for what she has done.
Posted by KeepinItREAL (anonymous) on August 2, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am deeply saddened by this! Doug was a very nice person to ALL those who REALLY knew him! It upsets me that he is being viewed as this abusive man and no one having NOT 1 CLUE of what type of person WILLIAMS is! It saddens me even more how OUR family welcomed her an took her in, and yet she shows NO REMORSE 4 her actions, as if my family has did nothing 4 her! We were all getting so close (Fleming family) lately, celebrating their marriage and other occasions prior, and now this has happened! Our family is very strong though an we will get through this with the grace of God! God does know best! Although this was anything but God's work, the devil was fully enforced... He Shall Overcome! Always do! An we will see to it, through Him that she shall get exactly what is deserved. There is always sunshine when the dark skies are gone.
Posted by lfleming82 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have been reading the comments, and there are some that I agree with and others that I don't. I understand that people are intitled to there opinion, but some of you should be more considerate of our families. Most of you are on the outside looking in. My question is, out of all the times they argued or fought, what made her get a knife this time? And I have to say that my uncle is not the person that the paper is potraying him to be and I think that her rap sheet should be posted also, she was a fighter and she would pick fights with my uncle.And yes, some of you may know what its like to be hit,but I am saying that you don't know, because you are not in our family or hers, and have any of you stopped to think that she may have been the one doing the hitting? So stop assuming. Doug was a different person when he was with her. In my eyes she made him happy. I sat and talked with her numerous times and she always talked about how she loved him, they showed their love for one another. I don't understand what happened, no one ever will. I don't hate her, but I am mad with her and I hope justice is served. I pray that GOD has mercy on her. And my family and I would appreciate it if people would keep the negativity to themselves when you don't know what happened. My family is strong and blessed and GOD will see us through this.
Posted by neverunderstood (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To lfleming82 don't let people keep upsetting you. You never will find closure if you continue to post comments on this messy site. These people are out to destroy the little emotions that you have left in this situation. Pray to the lord and time will work everything out. To the Fleming and Williams Family my prayers are with both sides and to people it's time to let the foolishness go. Doug gone and he'll be truly missed. Yvette has something to deal with for the rest of her life. She has to find way to deal with what she's done. MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!
Posted by Idamae (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
First of all it is really sad for both sides, but, I feel like this, it's always two sides to each story, unfortunately Doug is not here to tell his. I'm not juding, but, I heard about her killing her first husband, all the way in California, I don't know is this is true, Now I'm not judging, I was in an abusing marriage for twent-five years,I'm the last one to take a man's side, once I got out of that one, I haven't marry again, not that I judge every man the way he was, but, when I see the signs of maybe he might be an abusive man, I move on, so if the signs were there, why get marry. Like I say I'm not making no judgement, it just make you wonder, what really happen? So what you have to remember"we don't have to give an account of the way we be treated by people, but we have give an account the way we treat people". So let the Good Lord be the Judge. And to the newspaper, "make sure you have your facts right, and if you had the facts right every situation is different,.so if she killed her first husband,does this make her guilt of killing Doug too"? Well, we do know she killed him, we just don't know what happen, so stop juding, From ALLTHEWAY IN CALIFORNIA
Posted by monae5 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i know the woman that you guys are slandering,my mom all ways told me never believe everything you hear,see,or read about get your own facts and its amazing how some one put false information out there and everyone falls for it.But that person is a coward for putting that out there and need Jesus and should be greatful that he,or she is not living in her shoes. and how dare you to compare this woman with another woman from NY. I'm sure theres a lot of Johnson that have committed crimes so all the Johnsons bad, grow up. May God be with all of you.
Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i guess the story about the kids wasn't true????? hmm
Posted by ROBERT (anonymous) on August 7, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TO MY FAMILY
I ASKED THE LORD TO BLESS YOU AS I PRAYED FOR YOU TODAY, TO GUIDE AND PROTECT YOU AS YOU GO ALONG YOUR WAY. HIS LOVE IS ALWAYS WITH YOU.HIS PROMISES ARE TRUE. AND WHEN WE GIVE HIM ALL OUR CARES,WE KNOW HE WILL SEE US THROUGH. SO WHEN THE ROAD YOU'RE TRAVELING SEEMS DIFFICULT AT BEST, JUST REMEMBER WE ARE HERE PRAYING, AND GOD WILL DO THE REST. EDITH AND ROBERT FLEMING
Posted by NatchezBell (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
God Bless You Evette. It shouldn't be called murder when you're just trying to, "defend yourself". I wish you all the best and God will prevail. Amen.
Posted by Ms_Shawty_Bad_A (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I know both of them. Vette is very sweet. And I'm not gone put Doug business out like that because he's not here. But she did love that man because that's all she talked about. You can love a person but it's so much u can take. Sometimes u can love a person so much it seems like u can't be without them. Been there done that but I won't go through it again. You never know what goes on behind closed doors. And Vette didn't kill her first husband. So to dummy that put that there get your facts straight. And to lfleming. There no need of lashing out at everybody because he's gone. Whenever the Lord ready for someone to leave this earth, there's nothing u can do about. I've lost a lot of people a carried for. All I could do is ask the Lord to help me to accept it and gone on with my life. And yeah I'm last posting this and what. I don't care what a person think of me because only God can judge me.
Posted by Ms_Shawty_Bad_A (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And yeah to all those that have their negative thoughts and opinions! You don't know what went on in that house. Only Vette, God, and Doug knew.
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