Posted by bombingeight (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Another hard-hitting editorial?

"And, perhaps most importantly, he’s extended a respectful handshake to the most populous country in the world. We all know China is a force with which to reckon. By participating in their games, Bush is showing cooperation and respect for the country. His handshake doesn’t mean he supports communism or every Chinese decision, but it might go a long way in earning the trust of the Chinese."

It's the least he can do for one of the major creditors of the U.S. and its debt!

Posted by SniperX (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Julie Finley,
George Bush, The President of the United States, is the top ambassador for our country. I just wanted to point that fact out to you just in case you missed that day in government class. How would you suggest we build influence in the sensitive areas of the world? Use bullets and nukes? Our leaders should talk and build relationships with other foreign leaders. But you know that already. You just like writing crappie articles, or maybe crappie articles is all you can write. Try writing an article before you read the New York Times.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Julie, I guess you didn't approve of our presidental canidates going to other countries as well . Believe it or not , President Bush has made some good decisions while in office as well as some bad ones . He may be unpopular for a lot of people right now . I believe those are people that expected a magic wand to appear and there be world peace . It's been a very difficult time and I don't know who will have the right answers . My crystal ball just won't tell me . Maybe yours will . Only the future will tell us just how President Bush faired during his time in office . As of this moment in time, the fat lady is not singing . God Bless America !

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It should have been "fared, not faired" . Sorry !

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I hope Bush handed all those world leaders a towel after shaking their hands, since he has the blood of 4000 US soldiers and countless thousands of innocent Iraqis on his hands. Such a horric disgrace he is.

God bless America, and let us endure these last 5 months of this baffoon.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think some people have tunnel vision .

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree!

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Julie Finley,

Actually you write quite well; despite that, you seem to have offended SniperX and the southernbelle. Actually I thought you were kind to the president.

But I have never seen you write a "crappie" article. They are a well-loved fish in our area, and we should get more crappie articles. Maybe sniper reads more than me because I missed them all.

I don't know why Sniper would chastise you for writing crappie articles. And I don't know who the fat lady is that southernbelle wants to hear before she checks the president's record. But then whaddo I know? I'm from Mississippi.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just want to be fair and balanced ! It's nothing personnal .

Posted by ace6593 (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Despite the many differences between the Chinese people and the U.S., one of our common interests is North Korea. An indifferent eye doesn't help our posiition when it comes to U.S. foreign policy or international relations. Anyway, with lawmakers not in session (See Rodney Alexanders opinion column on this paper's web site) it was good timing. Had the president not gone to support the troops in China, he would have been criticized for NOT going!

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

But good thing he isn't negotiation with terrorists!

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sniper wow man, you're harshing my mellow. Such violent strategerie. (insert smilie here)
bush is an idiot. 7 1/2 years of the worst leadership in the history of the world. cheney and his monkey have distanced the country from all the rest of the world, to no gain of ours. Another 5 months or so and his majesty King george can go back to Texas.
Julie this was a good article. bush is not intelligent to make a scrapbook.
Doesn't it hurt these neocon pigs when the Dixie Chicks were proven right. I am also embarrassed to call this window licking, short bus rider my president.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I find it amazing and quite humorous that many of the people here who denigrate President Bush for his lack of intelligence mangle the english language so terribly...here's the proof, or rather the lack of proofreading:

natchezsouthside wrote: "Such a horric disgrace he is." I'm not sure what "horric" is but it can't be spelled correctly and that is disgaceful.

natchezsouthside also wrote: "God bless America, and let us endure these last 5 months of this baffoon." Seems to me that the only "baffoon" here is the person who was the BUFFOON who misspelled it.

Hardcorps wrote: "bush is an idiot" and "bush is not intelligent to make a scrapbook." Hardcorps is apparently not intelligent [enough] to make complete coherent sentences or to use punctuation and capitalization correctly, yet he calls our president "not intelligent".

I'm in agreement with Yeahuhuh about crappie stories, even crappy crappie stories are pretty good...LOL.

Regarding some more salient points the two bashers brought up:

natchezsouthside wrote: "he [Bush] has the blood of 4000 US soldiers and countless thousands of innocent Iraqis on his hands"...WRONG!, Saddam and Al Qaeda have that blood on their hands. natchezsouthside also fails to give Bush credit for keeping our country safe from attack since 9/11 saving thousands of people's lives. He also has prevented the killing of far more Iraqi civilians than have died due to collateral damage in US responses to terrorist attacks, or in the terrorist attacks themselves, or in the Islamic infighting, or in the Iranian incursions or in the . natchezsouthside is right about one thing, I am glad Bush isn't negotiating with terrorists as Obama seems to want to do.

Hardcorps..."7 1/2 years of the worst leadership in the history of the world"..."cheney and his monkey"..."King george"..."neocon pigs"..."Dixie Chicks were proven right"...this is just more over-the-top, vitriolic, demagogeury that is so common in the Democratic ranks. I suppose you would say Saddam's leadership was superior, or maybe it was his idol and pattern maker Hitler that you would say provided better leadership...If Bush is Cheney's "monkey" how can he be president and "King george", it's a contradiction in your own muck..."neocon pigs" simply have a differing opinion from you, why get nasty, it only hurts your arguments...There was only one Dixie Chick that people thought was a fool and then she opened her mouth and removed all doubt, the others wisely kept their opinions to themselves and concentrated on something they knew...music...make a positive contribution to the debate for a change and stop regurgitating the Daily Koz' and the Huffington Post's drivel.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oops...that should have been "disgraceful"...LOL.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad some people can't make their point without name calling . That idiot or moron as some of ya'll love to call our president has enough on the ball to keep terriorist from another attack on US soil . That alone should count for something . And by the way , southside , every one of those poor soldiers that died in battle went to Irag on their own accord and most of them died being very proud to be there fighting for their country . Don't even try to take away their dignity in being proud and good Americans . Ya'll keep forgetting that the Dems in Congress voted for this war as well. We were told it wasn't going to be a short war. Nobody wants our young adults to die fighting for us, but I'm proud of our courageous soldiers for defending Democracy . But go ahead and vote for your Democratic canidate and keep your mouth shut about the higher taxes you will be paying . Keep your mouth shut about the unborn babies that will never have the chance to enjoy life because some would-be mother uses abortion for birth control . Oh that's right , that kind of murder is called a woman's choice. I forgot .And may God in heaven help us when there is a war going on our own soil . We'll be going to Wal-Mart seeing children missing limbs or blind or badly burned . It could happen . I hope it doesn't but it could .

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 13, 2008 at 10:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Right on southernbelle! People want what they want when they want it. No one thinks of broader and better goals for out country than what they want for themselves. Bush has made mistakes, he is after all human. But he has kept terrorists off our soil. For that I thank him and God. God Bless America - Land of the Free Because of the Brave!

Posted by humorme (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bush is a war criminal.

Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This was a good article and Julie did a good job of keeping it fair. She didn't write this article to be negative.

Sniper X, your comments about Julie were just cheap shots. I don't see how you can saw the pres is doing such a good job of being an ambassador. The first 4 years of his term, Bush completely isolated the U.S. from the world with his persistant call for war in Iraq.

There is many titles I could use to describe the president, a good ambassador for the U.S. would not be one.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bush is no more a war criminal than any politician in our government . We still have many friends abroad ! That's one of many reasons we are in this war. Remember Israel for one.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just read on the internet yesterday that Bush was gonna have to cut his vacation short because of the Georgia invasion by Russia. I wonder why, since he was already rubbing elbows with Putin in China. What will Bush say if Russia tells him, we will stop bombing Georgia when you get out of Iraq?

Why on earth are some of you dissing others for misspelling words? You've all misspelled a few.

Thank God that Bush's scrap-booking days are coming soon. Maybe he can go back to the ranch and milk the stallion, since he doesn't know a horse from a cow (Laura's words), and he failed to find oil in Texas (Arbusco). Desperate Housewives heard her little skit and offered Laura a job, but she turned them down...said she already knew what that felt like...that's what drove her to join up with Lynn, and Leeza at the neighborhood male strip joint. Gah, and some of you people drank the milk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQv0v3Xme...

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/...

Yall stop hate'n now...

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sammohon so I left out the word "enough". bush is still an idiot and a war crimnal. The blood of those dead or maimed is on bush's hands. Don't you have a nazi rally to attend somewhere?

Here is bush's resume.

Past work experience:

Ran for congress and lost.

Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.

Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.

Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.

With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.

Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.

Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.

Accomplishments as president:

Attacked and took over two countries.

Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.

Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.

Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.

Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

continued:

First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.

First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.

After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.

Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.

In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.

Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.

Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.

Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.

Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.

Signed more laws and executive orders circumventing the Constitution than any president in US history.

Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.

Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.

Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. (http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/marches/)

Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

continued::

My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleezza Rice has an Chevron oil tanker named after her).

Had more states to simultaneously go bankrupt than any president in the history of the United States.

Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.

Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.

First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.

Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.

Withdrew from the World Court of Law.

Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

continued:

First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).

All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.

My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).

Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.

First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.

First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

First US president to establish a secret shadow government.

Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).

With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.

Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.

First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.

Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.

Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

John McCain on the Georgian invasion: "I am interested in good relations between the United States and Russia. But in the 21st Century, nations don't invade other nations."

Uhhh, I guess he forgot Iraq?

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

continued:

In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.

Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.

In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.

Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.

Records and References:

At least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).

AWOL from National Guard and Deserted the military during a time of war.

Refuse to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.

All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public view.

Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and un-available for public review.

Now Sam let's hear your speech about ultraliberal left wing thought.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sammohon: I am not and never claimed to be a typist. So bite me regarding my typing skills. Nor do I debate semantics--I prefer substance.

As for the blood of thousands on Bush's hands--

Bush caused the needless war in Iraq.

Bush IGNORED the PDB stating that Al Queda was going to strike at the US. He is to blame for allowing it to happen.

Bush has ignored Afghanistan and the Taliban has been resurgent there because of Bush's ignoring the situtation--AND his stupidity.

Bush IGNORED the Generals calls for more troops in Iraq.

Bush has treated our soldiers with disdain--the wounded are treated harribly--See Walter Reed Hosp in DC.

Bush has wasted BILLIONS of dollars in Iraq that could have been spent here.

Bush is sitting on $80 Billion of Iraqi money--and yet the US taxpayers are footing the bill for the Iraq debacle.

Yes Bush is an idiot and 76% of the US population agrees with me.

You can be warm and fuzzy with the 24% who are dead from the neck up.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

southernbelle, shopping in Walmart is one of the most unAmerican things you can do--their products come from China.

You stab America in the heart when you shop in Walmart.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hardcorps , I'm so glad I'm not you !

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes Bush is an idiot and 76% of the US population agrees with me.

You can be warm and fuzzy with the 24% who are dead from the neck up.

You go there southside.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like I heard the fat lady sing....

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe so ,but a lot us do it . Besides this is not about Wal-Mart .

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Uhhh, Walmart is emblematic of the crisis this country is in--all the manufacturing jobs all you whine about not having in Natchez on this site have gone overseas because we Americans buy everything from overseas manufacturers rather than domestic manufacturers.

Buying Chinese products rather than ones made here means those made here will go bye bye too.

Think beyond yourself.

Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Southernbele - Tell me something, I have heard so many people say (and you just said it also), that is a democrat gets elected thousands of unborn babies would die. Tell me what law Pres Bush has enacted that has stopped abortion. Abortion is currently legal in the U.S. and has been under both democrat and republican congress' and Presidents.

Seems that people like you have no problems waging wars, where thousdands of innocent bystanders die. But when a women chooses to not bear a child, she is a sinner and a killer. I am completely against abortion, but I feel its one thing the govt does not need to get involved with.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree mike8427.

Bush and the GOP control the House and Senate for 6 of Bush's 7.5 years. Where was all the legislation to stop abortion?

The GOP likes killing babies too it appears.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We trade with many country's . We import and export . What I don't like is so many jobs leaving our country . It's not a perfect world in case you didn't know . I would love to see our country more self sufficent but we can't completely stop international trade . That wouldn't be a perfect world either . We have to think beyond ourselves and our country sometimes . It's a great big world out there with a lot of problems that are not going to be solved over night .

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The reason the jobs are leaving the USA (Natchez included) is that people are buying FOREIGN made products. Walmart sells mostly FOREIGN made products.

By shopping in Walmart you are helping send manufacturing jobs to foreign countries and taking jobs away from Americans.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay Mike, President Bush banned Partial Birth Abortion , by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade . He also reversed Clinton's move to srike Reagan's Mexico Policy . By Executive Order, reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent under the Medical Privacy Act . By Executive Order prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.He upheld the ban on abortions in military hospitals . By the way , did any of ya'll cash your stimulus checks yet . Or did you consider it blood money and send it back ? I hate wars . I hate it when people or killed , whether its in the womb or outside the womb, I wish it never happened . But it does and I don't want to live long enough to see it first hand . If you are going to blackball Walmart then you had better get ready to blackball a whole lot of other businesses in the United States .

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know ya'll ,I realize our president has made a lot of mistakes . I don't think he made them by himself . Sometimes I think our President has been used as a scapegoat . And he allowed it . Which is despicable ! I have voted Democat and I have voted Repubican . I feel I am neither . I am an American that worries about the future of our chidren and their children . I want world peace and a cure for cancer just like everybody else . I want our leaders to do the good and honest thing when it comes to protecting us . I just don't think our President is the evil monster that some of you make him out to be . He is our President and deserves more from us than ridicule . We shouldn't do this to ourselves . We will never right things by playing the blame game . Why don't we all try to be a little more open minded to our candidates on both sides and vote for the best man . Vote McCain .

Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 14, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Belle, what you call the pres being the scapegoat I call taking responsibility. Every since this war in Iraq started going wrong, I have heard the GOP blame everyone but the president. The fact is we went in unprepared. Rumsfield was trying to fight a large war with a small military. It was a stupid idea that has only been corrected recently with the "surge". In reality the surge was the amount of troops that should have been on the ground from the beginning. We have spent too much blood and money to reorganize Iraq's govt, and in reality that is all we have done - reorganize and shuffle the govenrment.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Read what Mr. Charlie Reese, a well respected conservative journalist, has to say about a new generation discovering war and about bush and chainie.

http://enterprise-journal.com/articles/2...

dumsfeld, dumya, chainie and the rest should be tried for war crimes and the last two jerks should be impeached. Somebody give them a bj so we can impeach them.

southernbelle I'm certainly glad I'm not you either. I still have some pride in the country I put my life on the line for and don't try to come up with excuses for bush and chainie's complete incompetence and ineptness. They can't really be as stupid as they seem. I think they are just coldblooded and don't care how many young men will stay forever young while they dodged the draft and deserted.
So sit on your selfrighteous backside and spew your ignorance.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hardcorps...the ignorance is all yours and you're welcome to it...you'll have to share a little with natchezsouthside though...I'll return though and rebut line item by line item, it should be fun...I always enjoy hammering illogical liberals...LOL.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sam you should quit while you're behind. Your hammer is dull.

And why would you enjoy hammering illogical liberals? Are you trying to make sure they are competent to handle your affairs?

A lack of paying attention -- and a lack of honest values -- by the other side surely seems to be putting the liberals in charge.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sammonhon: your first mistake is thinking everyone who disagrees with you is a liberal--way-over-the-right-wing-nuts always make that error. i guess it's genetic.

Next you'll be quoting Corsi's "Book of Lies" as fact. You folks make me laugh at your gullibility. But hey, your making him loads of money while he laughs at your sorry butts for buying his LIES.

Bush has screwed this country for decades to come. God help us in the future.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh he has followed the repugnantican party line so long he is down in the hole where they have dug themselves. Only the suction from his lips to bush's behind could pull him out.
If obama gets elected it will only be because illiterates put bush in office. Twice. And people are tired of the corporate propaganda they have spewed that is ruining America more and more each day. They have destroyed the constitution and rednecks are sitting on the sideline cheering like methed out speed freaks. Cheering their own demise and are too stupid to know it.
And sammohon your little LOL's sound like a little tweenie girl. Is chainie your BFF? You're coming into a battle of wits with no ammo dude. Hammer away if you even have a hammer.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh...hammers are dull by definition, duh!, they are blunt instruments of destruction or fine adjustment tools, BTW, you don't drive nails with them, that's what nail guns are for...LOL.

I appreciate your point, I redundantly called them "illogical liberals"...the fact that they are liberal defines the illogical part..."competent" isn't in their lexicon, but "affairs" is and they can't even handle their own without a paternity test.

I will agree with you on the point that the Bush administration has, like his father's, strayed from conservative principals and it has hurt him.

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sam,

Don't go there with the "affairs/paternity test" issue. As we all know, there is PLENTY of mud to sling toward both parties when it comes to these types of indiscretions. The list of affairs, sexual missteps etc are by no means limited to the Democratic party.

Your candidate has quite an ugly little past himself when it comes to his "affairs". Being a war hero (which I do admire)or the fact that it happened many years ago doesn't excuse his extramarital activities.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

natchezsouthside...don't have Corsi's book, haven't read it, but since you recommend it, I guess I'll have to get it. You're calling me gullible while you eat up Obama's BS?...I guess it IS genetic for me not to step in it if I know it stinks...I don't think you're liberal because you disagree with me...I think you're liberal because you walk and talk like that duck.

Hardcorps...the American people are fickle politically...yes they re-elected GW, but they also gave Bill Clinton two tries too...he didn't fare so well either. He never failed to fail...it was the only thing consistent and true about him.

The Constitution is alive and well, cared for by a fine group of non-lawmaking judges making decisions on what it actually says, not on what you liberals want to read into it.

In the mean time, I don't know if rednecks are cheering or if they know anything about politics or the Constitution, but those of us who are not rednecks and do know something about politics and the Constitution and who can actually think for ourselves (without the help of Obama or Hillary or Bill) are cheering the fact that Hillary is gone and Obama is likely to follow and the Constitution is safe for many years to come from liberal tampering.

Why you liberals want to condemn corporations is nonsensical, it is capitalism, which isn't perfect, but kicks the s!@# out of whatever you espouse, which is basically socialism. You also condemn anything American. We have nothing to apologize to the world for except for your incessant whining.

I couldn't care less what you think my LOLs sound like, your opinion is irrelevent to me because it is Left Of Liberal. shows Lack Of Logic and Lots Of Lunacy...LOL. I am clearly not in a battle of wits with you...I don't need ammo to face an unarmed man...bang, bang did you feel the hammer come down upon your head?

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL...well said Sam!

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Scarlettohara...McCain learned from his mistake, recognized it and has admitted it was wrong, unlike Edwards who continued to deny the truth until forced by the evidence to fess up.

McCain was in a bad first marriage, made a mistake by not getting out of the marriage before moving on, but has since been faithful for many years to his current wife.

I'm not condemning either man for making a mistake, God knows I've made a few, I'm condemning Edwards for doing it to his wife in her condition, for lying to the American people even in the face of irrefutable evidence and for his self-professed narcissism.

The only reason this came up is because I was making a joke of Democrats being competent to handle "affairs" as stated by Yeahuhuh...lighten up.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh come on Sam.

Certainly you can acknowledge that there is a left and a right of thought, both legitimate except in their extremes and as a matter of timing.

And that our job as citizens is to divine which way the last set of edicts left us leaning - precariously. Otherwise you can never know where to apply your hammer.

If the Bush administration strayed much farther than even his father's did -- I don't fear disagreement on that -- and loyal conservatives took the opportunity to waste their time ridiculing the left, it doesn't speak well for them.

Imagine, while holding so much power, such a competent and self assured bunch allowing themselves a figurative rear intercourse to match the "affairs" that some of their more prominent sought biologically.

If the left is illogical, the right has shown itself to be inept. I contend that what most call the "left" is a paper tiger that was created by the right for the convenience of their fight. That is why mis-statement, minimizing voter attendance and smear tactics comprise so much of the GOP election strategy today.

For every real-life liberal that threatens us there are dozens of confused, desperate and self-absorbed conservatives fighting the imaginary beast and trying to scare those who aren't on their side. Too many of them forget that conservative is how you live your life, and since they so distrust government they should be the last ones to be entrusted with it.

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Faithfulness to his current wife, huh??

"..learning from mistakes made..."??

Let's not crown McCain the Redeemed King of Virtue just yet...

Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20...

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, Sam...

Welcome back, by the way -- haven't seen you in a while.

I don't consider myself part of this conservative/liberal feud going on here. I know my core beliefs and they are deeply felt. No one will change my mind on where I stand. I simply piped in because I despise hypocrisy.

As for McCain, you can spin his past any way you like, but from all accounts, he was not in a bad first marriage, he just got itchy pants and cheated on his wife. Does it make it ok that he has been married now to his mistress for all these years?

As for Edwards, he truly disgusts me! I was never a huge supporter, but I did believe in a lot of what he had to say. He got a bum rap for a long time because he is so pretty, he's wealthy and he's smooth...I attribute a lot of that to jealousy. Any bad press he gets now is richly deserved. He has done unbelievable damage to his family.

And hey...you should also heed some of the advice you send in your last line.......lol

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scalettohara...thank you for your welcome, it's good to know that some here like to discuss, deliberate and debate without rancor their various viewpoints...I'll also try to lighten up my own self LOL.

By whose accounts?...men don't normally stray if they're happy at home. His faithfulness to his current wife is a sign of learning from mistakes made (a.k.a. experience) and redemption.

I agree with much of your assessment of Edwards...the word "smarmy" always comes to mind when I think of him, but I never believed in what he said...heck, even he didn't believe in what he was saying.

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok Sam. I posted a couple of links that were some of the first to come up when googling. Do your own homework, then. There's plenty of sites/news agencies that have covered these stories. Sorry my "liberal" sources aren't suitable to you.

Come on, you are the one you used the "quacks like a duck" analogy. McDuck should be quacking his head off right now.

Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Natchezsucks - If you feel that way find another town! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh...I must make amends for a faux pas in one of my earlier missives...it should have been "conservative principles" not "conservative principals"...don't want the teacher's union coming down on me...LOL.

I certainly agree that there is a right and a left of thought and that legitimate debate between the two invokes a middle of the road path for the country that has proved fruitful. I also agree that the Bush administration has been inept at times and has strayed from the Reagan conservatism, particularly in the fiscal realm, that did so much to help our country and the world.

I do not agree that the left is a paper tiger...I think it is a very real threat to our freedom. It is every bit as real and frightening as it was when Huey P. Long forced, through his "Share The Wealth" socialism, FDR to swing to the left and begin the "nanny state" and the Ponzi scheme we call Social Security, in order to remain president.

It is every bit as real as when LBJ, fallaciously used the Kennedy mantle, to nearly bankrupt the country with his "Great Society", forcing American families to require two paychecks to survive.

Progressive secular socialism is alive and well and has devastated the American value system...conservatives must remain alert to combat the further encroachment.

Your last two paragraphs are paradoxical. How can minimizing voter turnout, smear tactics (which are actually the tools of the left not the right), etc. help the GOP if they are out numbering liberals by the dozens? The tactics you attribute to the GOP are tactics used by minority parties not majority parties...which is why they are far more prevalent on the left.

Liberal is the way to live life...conservative is the way to govern...thus minimizing government's impact on our lives.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scarlettohara...you post links to a New York Times story laundered by someone posting it as fact in Wikipedia and also the Huffington Post as proof of McCain's misdeeds...come on, why didn't you dredge up something from the Daily Koz while your were at it?...why not get Al Franken to type up a post here?...all are in the tank for Obama and liberalism at all costs!

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's an interesting article.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/o...

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scarlettohara...why were the sites you posted the ones that came up first in Google?...because they're trotted out each time liberals need a little dirt and the liberals need a lot of dirt to cover up the good McCain [McDuck] has done.

Regarding McCain's previous indescretion, which you seem to have a problem with, I speak from my own experience. Experience is the sum total of mistakes you've made that you've learned from. Those who know me, know the mistakes whereof I speak, those who don't know me don't need to know, however, I have paid dearly for my experience and have never repeated them and have gained integrity of character as a result...I expect McCain has garnered the same insight.

If a man sincerely repents a transgression, does all he can to correct the error and never repeats it, he should be forgiven. Edwards hasn't reached that level, McCain has.

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll let this rest on my end, for now. You have your thoughts on the matter, and I have mine. It's not that I'm obsessing over McCain's past indiscretion-- it's again, just the hypocrisy which was the origin of my earlier post.

For the record, just because he is older (which does not neccesarily equate to "wiser") doesn't mean the old cat has changed his spots.

Quack, Quack :-)

Posted by scrappyjoe (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cute email not withstanding your off the cuff comment about our President's popularity.

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Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

scarlettohara...I'd feel better about Obama if I knew he had something to quack about...he just doesn't.

Posted by Idefinitelymight (Tom Scarborough) on August 15, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Sam--good to see you back (even if I am one of those derned lefties)!

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 15, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Tom, haven't really been gone, just not as visually vocal lately...LOL. Did come home for a nice vacation last week. I was glad to go back to work Monday so I could get some rest...the wife kept me busy with Honey Dos.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 1:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Plus the news can't get off the Edwards scandal, especially on Fox. They are ranting and raving like mad dogs, but some of em can't see that Edwards indescretion is no worse than McCain's. It's just more recent is all. It really isn't anyone's business, but theirs, unless he were the candidate for president or vice president. And I don't think that is likely anytime soon. But, Hillary could somehow end up as the Democratic candidate. Ya never know.

John McCain is too angry to be president. You know he will have his finger on that button up in there, and the first country to push his button will cause his finger to push that button. You know that button I'm talking about.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 1:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The reason I post some of the stuff I do is to keep it fair. We have folks on here posting trash almost every day about Obama and talking about Hillary like she's a dog, just because she didn't divorce Clinton. After all the taxpayer money that spent stalking Clinton, I can't believe that McCain (son of cain) could even win the Republican nomination, having cheated on and divorced his disabled wife. Plus, his mistress-wife took advantage of sick people by stealing medicine from her non-profit organization, and had prescriptions written and filled under other people's names. That's as bad as volunteering for Hospice just to cop some narcotic pain pills, or a nurse stealing from a hospital where they work. You and I would be under the jail for those kind of stunts.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 2:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would welcome you back sammo, but you'd probably want some of my koolaid. Cheers.

Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You hit the nail on the head, Peace. The only difference in the two men is the timing. Had McCain inkled that he might be eyeing a run at the presidency at the time of his divorce, he would have been laughed out of the country. Flash forward 35ish years, and now he is revered by the conservatives.

It brings up one interesting thought. Edwards is still a fairly young man. What might his future hold in 20-30 years? I'm not saying I would ever vote for him, but you never know what the years may bring. Maybe (as Sam said in defense of McCain), he will learn from his experiences and gain more insight! While we cannot imagine such a thing happening now, you never know.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sam -- I'm still trying to figure out what happened to you that makes you sound like Wolfowtiz.

"Reagan conservatism, particularly in the fiscal realm, that did so much to help our country and the world"

Did you forget Reagan's deficits? His support of Saddam? Or that Carter appointed Volker? Or Reagan's sentencing changes that sprouted our gulag system?

You're slipping man. he,he! Hard to get old gracefully!

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh...

Reagan's deficits were a direct result of outspending the USSR militarily winning the Cold War. The benefits were only felt later during Clinton era even surviving GHWB and Clinton's first term. GWB's problem has been to only adopt the tax reduction portion of Reaganism without the necessary reductions in government spending and deregulations leaving deficit spending. Additionally, 9/11, Katrina, Rita, fires and floods, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have all ballooned the deficits. Some of these were necessary some weren't, but this has really been the rub between Bush and the conservative base.

Reagan's influence was philosophical regarding fiscal responsibility and deregulation setting the stage for which the Republican led Congress forced Clinton to adhere to those principles thus creating the "Clinton" surpluses.

At the time of Reagan's support of Saddam it was in opposition to Iran...the enemy of my enemy is my friend...Saddam got stupid later and we got smarter. Remember we helped Bin Laden vs. the USSR too for similar reasons.

Volcker was one of Carter's few good appointments, but only became so when he rejected "monetarism" as a fiscal policy for the Fed and allowed the economy to grow with less Fed interference and strangulation which had been a problem under Carter's regime. Reagan was wise enough to keep him and influence his change of heart.

Mandatory minimum sentencing is a good thing keeping criminals off the street better than had been the practices prior to Reagan. Gulags on the other hand were a Stalinist operation co-opted from the Czars that were used to repress political enemies of the state. To compare Reagan's policies and/or the American criminal justice system with that system is just, well, wrong.

Now just why do you want to compare me to Wolfowitz or is he just the neo-con whipping boy du jour that you decided to pull from your liberal hit list?

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh...call me old again and if I can remember to, I'll chase you down in my scooter and smite you with my cane when I find it, that is if my lumbago and gout allow me get out of the house and I don't fall and break a hip on the front steps...didn't you know that 50 is the new 30 according to, uh, what's his name, uh, oh yeah Dennis Hopper? Heck, I just beat my son in a one-on-one basketball game the other day...he didn't think I'd cheat...he, he, hee, old age and treachery will defeat youth and talent anyday.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on August 16, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace007...thanks for your kind welcome, but no, I'll let you have all the Kool Aid (laced with gin as I recall)...I'll stick with a nice conservative single malt scotch.