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Local farmers see ray of hope in domestic pet turtle act

Published Thursday, January 10, 2008

VIDALIA — Jonesville turtle farmer Eddie Jolly has been fighting hard for the turtle industry, and after recent congressional action, he thinks he might see a glimmer of hope for the future.

The sale of pet turtles — turtles less than 10.2 centimeters in diameter — has been illegal since 1975 due to health concerns, largely because they may carry salmonella.

That ban is unfair, Jolly said, because other reptiles and even rats that can carry the disease are on the market, and in the years since the ban, turtle farmers have developed a way to eliminate salmonella from the turtles.

The sale is still illegal, and a story in Monday’s edition of The Natchez Democrat contained incorrect information.

Though the ban has been in effect for a long time in the United States, until recently there was a thriving overseas market for the turtles.

“The turtles used to go for $1.40 a turtle, but right now the price is $0.19 a turtle,” Jolly said. “We know that if we open the U.S. market we can get $2 a turtle.

The cost of producing a turtle is between $0.25 and $0.30, Jolly said.

Walter Davis, a Natchez-based turtle producer who has lobbied congressmen to lift the ban, agreed lifting the ban would serve farmers well.

“A lot of turtle farmers are really hurting right now,” he said.

The U.S. Senate recently passed a farm bill with the “Domestic Pet Turtle Equality Act” attached, which will either open the market to pet turtle sales or close the market to all reptile pet sales.

The amendment to the farm bill was added in the Senate, however, and a joint House-Senate committee has to work out a final version of the farm bill to send to the president for signing.

If the amendment survives the committee and the president signs the bill, within 60 days the Food and Drug Administration will be required to test all of the salmonella-related pets on the market.

If pet turtles test within a 10 percent prevalence of salmonella among the other animals, the Secretary of Agriculture will have to conduct a study about how turtles can be sold safely as pets.

Once that study is competed, the Secretary of Agriculture has only two options, to either lift the turtle ban or to ban the sale of other salmonella-related animals.

Jolly, who served as a consultant for the drafting of the amendment with Sen. Mary Landrieu and Sen. David Vitter’s offices, is confident the turtles will come out clean.

“The Louisiana certified salmonella-free pet turtle is the cleanest reptile in the world,” he said. “I’m not advocating it, but you could take the turtle out of the aquarium and put it in your mouth and not catch salmonella.”

Information from the Center for Disease Control says salmonella is naturally occurring with turtles, and that just because a turtle has a negative test one day does not mean it will be clean the next.

Because of this and because of shipping and care methods of the turtles, Beth Preiss, Director of the Exotic Pets Campaign for the Humane Society of the United States, said she opposes a lifting of the ban.

“The Humane Society of the United States applauds children’s love of animals, but turtles are pets children can and — for the sake of their health and the animals — should do without,” she said.

But Jolly said with the proper chemical treatment, a quaternary ammonia blend similar to that used in swimming pools and already in use at most turtle farms, the disease will be eliminated from household tanks.

But before he gets geared up to take his turtles to market, Jolly says he has a sense of realism about the passage of the amendment.

“We had three failed attempts at passing similar legislation last year,” he said. “This is a long shot on ‘we might get to sell turtles.’”

Comments

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on January 10, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the democrat containing incorrect info??? NO NOT THEM!! LOL!! haha, well i'll be keeping my fingers crossed for the legal TURTLE SALES!! like i said before i'm sure my boys are sitting on a gold mine! lol!

Posted by kpage (anonymous) on January 10, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't know turtles carried salmonella! I sure hope this law passes so this guy can keep his business afloat.

Turtles are neat critters.

Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on January 10, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't see the attraction, but if I wanted one I would be willing to pay more than 2 bucks.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 10, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hate to bust your bubbles but these particular turtles will end up as soup somewhere in Asia! They are cute though, and I rescue lots of box turtles in the summer from getting run over. We just can't resist them!

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 10, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh freedom please tell me you just move them to the side of the road. You aren't supposed to even move those turtles ( i believe it is illegal) because they are moving for a reason. They are migrating to either breed or to go lay eggs. Before I knew this I moved many turtles (to another location). Now I simply go around them or move them to the other side of the road they are trying to get to. I am however glad you do help these intriguing little guys!

Ha ha oh and they will be lucky to make it to Asia before they are made to soup.. I know lots of ppl around here and in Louisiana who make turtle soup.. EWWWW... :(

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Firered, I don't think it is illegal to move them, but it is illegal to take them from the wild. In fact, it is illegal to have ANY wild animal such as squirrels, raccoons, deer, birds, etc. as pets unless you have a license. I used to do wildlife rehabiliataion and we saw some strange cases of people trying to raise wild animals as pets including a guy who had a bobcat kitten. But of course, we are in the south and everybody has to raise at least one squirrel or coon as a pet. (saracaism) You are right, they are going to breed on the dry side, and lay eggs on the wet side - more or less. Just keep taking them out of the middle of the road and we will continue to have turtles.

Posted by bear45 (anonymous) on January 11, 2008 at 2:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Me and my other half got in the biggest fuss because I wanted to pick up a turtle in the road and take it home for my grandson to see. He says the turtle will loose his direction and will eventually die if you move them from where they are.So needless to say I left the turtle where he was. But as a child I had several turtles as pets and would love to have another I surely hope this amendment passes

Posted by TomK (anonymous) on January 12, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Way to go, Mr. Jolly. Now we have a situation in which a threat to reptile owners will be created that didn't exist before. If the bill passes the Secretary of Agriculture will be able to decide to ban whatever reptiles he or she chooses, and that wasn't there before.

We all would have been better off defeating salmonella as a criteria. You can't get away from salmonella because it is everywhere. It is in poultry and eggs that you buy from the grocery store. It would also be in any aquarium that was not well cared for, with or without turtles.

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