Posted by NtzMom55 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is big. This is tough. But above all, this is personal. It is big because it has created much attention and controversy. It is tough because of its sheer substance. It is personal because one has the right to choose their own religious beliefs and the destiny of how to treat their own body. Should a stranger be allowed to tell you that you cannot wear make-up, augment your breasts, kiss your partner or cut your hair? Those are personal decisions one must make for themselves. I will not share with anyone on this forum how I feel about abortion because I choose to keep that to myself. I can only say that this is a though and very personal subject. I only know what I would do if I were faced with the decision of what to do if I had to make the choice.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i saw the crosses last week. i knew something was up.

Posted by frogprincenessntz (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With the advancement of science, more and more doctors are saying they will not do abortions. The new 4D sonograms show very early in the pregnancy that it is a baby, not a lump of tissue, and the doctors are acknowledging that fact. As time goes on, the choice of surgeons will be very narrow. The time is now to reeducate our youngsters on the true facts. Show your young girls and boys what comes along with early sex. The life changing things that affect not only them, but a new life as well. Kids are smart enough that a lot of them will decide to wait until they are older to have sex. Not all, but some and just one is better than now.

Have you seen the lapel pin depicting little feet. It is barely one-quarter of an inch tall. Two tiny feet with all ten toes, just like a baby ten days after conception. Tell them the truth....ABORTIONS KILL BABIES. YOU DO NOT GET TO CHOOSE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM, ONLY YOURSELF. IF YOU WANT A CHOICE, EXERCISE IT BEFORE SEX.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

***buttercup26***

i believe this is one touchy subject! I had a sister/brother aborted a few years ago... It hurt and made my siblings and I very angry towards our mother... but then again aborting the child was probably the best thing to do.... Not knowing if he/she would be born as crack addicted baby... Not having our mother there to nurture him/her.... I would have to say it depends on the situation and circumstances... What if a child was conceived due to a VIOLENT HORRBLIE CRIME.. and the mother would resent that child but still raise the baby thinking that's what she is suppose to do??? or that child being born not knowing where she/he came from always asking their self what did they do wrong to not be wanted?? things like that...

it's just a very touchy subject for me...

Posted by msfixit (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With regard to children being "unwanted", all you have to do is look at the number of people on waiting lists who wish to adopt infants to know that if birthmothers would go ahead and place their babies soon after birth there are loving parents out there for them, even if they are handicapped or have other problems. I know this from experience---my daughter's birthmother was 16. We were lucky enough that she chose us to be her baby's parents from among 10 other couples who were also eligible and waiting, and that was 23 years ago. The problem is older children who are abused or neglected and then are removed from their homes by the courts. By this time much damage has already been done and it is much more difficult for people to agree to take on children with these kinds of issues, although many do so. The other part of the reason why we still see so many chldren caught in the foster care system is that judges are notoriously loathe to terminate parental rights, so many times a child is either older or part of a larger sibling group before they even become eligible for adoption.

Most women, single or married, who opt for adoption for their baby will find that there are people and/or agencies out there who are willing to pay their bills and offer them all kinds of support.

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ntzmom55 and dangyankee.......dang good comments.

destiny.....i see you are still talking for everybody.

misfixit.....where will these women get assistance 18+ years down the road when these babies become adults and call them out the blue wanting to know why they gave them away? who will be there to handle the guilt and shame then?

everybody living in america knows that there are many many children needing adoption right here but none of these so-called good people looking for babies are taking them home. americans are traveling on the ends of the earth and adopting foreign children. so what's wrong with this picture? please stop talking out of both sides of your mouth!

i say let the woman make the decision about her own body and her own future. who are we to judge? i see posters on here shouting pro-life today but yesterday these same posters were saying they were tired of their tax dollars going to pay for someone else's child.......yall wanted to know why these people were having all these children they couldn't take care of. now you know........no choice.

just stay out of other peoples business. use your energy on something you can fix like the public school system.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We do have a "Humane Society for Humans". One is located right here in Natchez. It's called an orphanage.

Posted by msfixit (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The reason so many people are travelling out of the country are that there are so few infants being placed for adoption in the US. It has become much more socially acceptable for unmarried mothers to keep their children, as well as the number who are being aborted (which is, btw, declining). Those needing adoption are older children who have often been neglected or abused. See my previous comment.

With regard to whether these women will get assistance down the road, the answer can be "Yes", if they ask for it. First of all, if the adoption was handled through a reputable agency, those agencies provide just such support. Most modern adoptions in the US are at least semi-open if that is what the birthmother wants. Prospective adoptive parents who aren't willing to have some kind of ongoing contact with the birthmother usually don't get very far in the process. We exchanged letters, cards, and pictures with my daughter's birthmother (mediated through the agency) throughout her years of growning up. On her 18th birthday we got a letter with contact information, saying that if my daughter were willing, her birthmother would like to meet her. She came to my daughter's high school graduation and they have maintained a relationship since. No shame or guilt here--and this is generally the way agency adoptions are handled and have been handled for the last 25-30 years. Adoptive parents who go through agencies have to undergo extensive counselling beforehand, and part of that revolves around dealing with that "why" question so that the child will be raised with respect for the decision to place her/him for adoption, and again, any prospective parents who won't buy into that don't get very far in the process. It is true that adoptions handled privately through a doctor or a lawyer don't often offer these kinds of supports up front, but most agencies will provide help if it is requested later.

Posted by goodwitch2008 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Abortion is a sick, disgusting thing and at the end of the day it is murder. No one has the right, I don't care who they are or what they believe, to kill a child. It is a human from the time of conception. If they didn't want the child they shouldn't have done the act in the first place, actions have consequences.

Posted by Username (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WASHINGTON, DC – On Tuesday, January 22 – the 35th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision – Norma McCorvey has endorsed Texas Congressman Ron Paul for president.

Norma McCorvey runs Crossing over Ministry – formerly Roe No More Ministry – and is best known as “Jane Roe” in the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision. McCorvey, who is now a pro-life activist, issued the following endorsement of Congressman Paul:

“Ron Paul states, ‘The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty.’

“I support Ron Paul for president because we share the same goal, that of overturning Roe v Wade. Ron Paul doesn’t just talk about being pro-life, he acts on it. His voting record truly is impeccable and he undoubtedly understands our constitutional republic and the inalienable right to life for all. Ron Paul is the prime author of H.R. 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v. Wade. As the signor of the affidavit that legalized abortion 35 years ago I appreciate Ron Paul’s action to restore protection for the unborn. Ron Paul has also authored H.R. 1094 in Congress, which seeks to define life as beginning at conception. He has never wavered on the issue of being pro-life and has a voting record to prove it. He understands the importance of civil liberties for all, including the unborn.

“After taking all of the presidential candidates into consideration, it is obvious that Ron Paul is the only one that doesn’t just talk the talk. For this reason and those stated above, I am publicly endorsing Ron Paul for president.”

www.ronpaul2008.com

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

****THIS IS BUTTERCUP26 ((NOT)) DESTINY****

((america39120)) MAYBE I SHOULD'VE SPELLED IT OUT A LITTLE MORE CLEARER.... THAT'S NOT DESTINY'S COMMENT PLEASE RE-READ IT CLEARLY STATES ***BUTTERCUP26***
((starting the morning off bashing ole ((DESTINY)) are ya?)) as far as speaking for everyone else... PLEASE RE-READ once again.... IT SAYS "THIS IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT FOR ***ME***" not ***US/EVERYONE***.

ya'll have a wonderful day!! ;)

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buttercup: maybe he/she needs to "just stay out of other peoples business", huh?

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, it is no one else's business if a woman has an abortion, or not. You should be minding your own business and not what your neighbor is doing.

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is sooooo wrong. A woman has a right to do whatever with her own body even if that means having an abortion. You have to remember alot of women choose to after being raped but also because she has been told a pregnancy could kill her or the baby would have horrible defects. Everyone acts like it is as non-chalant as getting a manicure!

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buttercup why are you using destiny's account to post your comments? I've seen you do that periodically and I always wondered why. If you are at her house and using her computer, you could still sign-in under your own username and password.

btw, was it the electric heater that caused the fire at your sister's home? Sorry to read about that. I hope all is well with your family.

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buttercup.....there you go again.......clueless. i would like everybody to re-read your alleged comment again.....that was posted by destiny. and anybody with a pea for a brain will know your fingers didn't type it. you couldn't put a sentence together correctly to save your life!!!!! btw, how much are you paying destiny????? can i apply for the job?????

you've been real touchy lately.....don't make it somebody else's fault tho.......get back on the meds! good day!!!! and before i'm bashed unmercifully, that's just my opinion. thank you.

Posted by sandyman7 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We all have opinions on this subject....Right or Wrong????but your opinion won't be worth much when you stand before JESUS CHRIST and have to answere for it!!!!!

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

goodwitch, sometimes women or girls do the act without it being their choice. I'm sure you've heard of rape.

Personally, I wouldn't have an abortion. I do think abortion is murder of an innocent child, but I wouldn't force a rape victim to go thru an unwanted pregnancy; especially, if she were young and not physically ready to be pregnant. What if pregnancy caused the death of that young rape victim that you forced to go thru a pregnancy that she had no choice in--in the first place? Would that also be murder?

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well sandyman7 i think that's my problem.....not yours. and when i stand before jesus christ i know you won't be there. so keep stoning me........i can take. but please remember..........let he without sin cast the first stone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

peace007......i guess there is somebody on here with some thinking skills. if buttercup is at destiny's computer to post her comments.........all she has to do is sign on as herself. what in the world could be so hard about that. but we all know that buttercup in in gulfport. so destiny is acting as her mouthpiece again to keep her granddaughter from looking like an uneducated child with all those senseless comments. besides.....how can they keep bashing everybody else for their use of the english language and mad grammar when one of their own is constantly posting the same horrible junk.

i sure hope the sister is okay. the salvation army and red cross are the ones to call when you are in need unless you don't donate a dime to those organizations. then call your friends and family and let them pitch in. do it the american way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by c_8512 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rape, incest, or the life of the woman are all legitimate reasons to terminate a pregnancy. However, if a woman chooses to take her clothes off, chooses to have unprotected sex with a man, and then finds herself pregnant, and then chooses abortion as a form of birth control, this is MURDER!

Instead, she could choose to keep her clothes on or choose not to have unprotected sex.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

God came to earth as a human because humans couldn't stop sinning. He wanted to get first hand experience of what it was like to be human, and to set an example of how to live for us to follow. Thank God that Jesus paid the penalty for our sins, because most humans have failed to follow his example.

Which would be the worst of sins? To have sex outside of marriage? To take birth control to prevent pregnancy? To abort a fetus? To bomb a whole village? To lie while being a president in order to gain support to go to war? To turn a blind eye to your starving neighbor? To claim to be God? To rape someone? To be greedy? To gossip? To be a gluten? To be a drunkard? To be an addict? The sins are many, but which is the worse sin?

Posted by Roy (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

c_8512
We are going to take the unwanted fetus from that woman and implant it in you and you can choose to carry the child to term.

I don't agree or like the idea of abortions but I do believe in the rights of the woman to make her on chose in what is right for her body.

We can ask women not to have abortions but it would be wrong to make it a law.

Posted by Roy (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Congratulation Peace007 with that post you made the list.

Posted by djarum_black (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You know... the thing is, people keep bringing up God in this argument. Here's what I don't get.. if your faith is so strong, why are you running around trying to micro-manage for an omnipotent being?

If you're so convinced that pregnancy is always an act of God, and thus, is sacred and should not be terminated.. well, so is getting cancer, but we're all about doing really unnatural things to our bodies to get rid of it. One might even go as far as to say that impotence is God's way of letting you know that it's time to retire certain activities, but people are buying plenty of male-enhancement drugs - in essence, taking specific action against health problems could be perceived as "second guessing" God's decisions.

In as far as abortion is concerned, if you have such strong faith in God, why don't you have faith enough to allow HIM to exact retribution where HE sees it's appropriate? I mean, if he's as all-powerful as he is supposed to be, how the hell is anyone else's sin any of your business? Don't you think the most powerful being of all can handle those things which are under His jursidiction? If you don't, then I would re-examine my faith if I were you. You can't have both.. God can't be both omnipotent and in need of assistance at the same time. It makes no sense and is not in line with biblical text, either.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I pity the child born in today's world; it's just not a safe place to bring children. It's very sad, really. The parents don't know how to parent, the teachers don't know how to gain the attention of the children, and the children don't want to learn...they would prefer to hang out on street corners doing drugs to escape the reality of today's world.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Roy, I've been on the list for a while. LOL

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"...but your opinion won't be worth much when you stand before JESUS CHRIST and have to answere for it!!!!!"

But Jesus doesn't matter if you are Jewish, Hindu, Buddist, Native American... etc etc, which is why, in addition to minding your own business on the matter, religion is irrelevant in the topic.

To all the Pro-life people here, how many children have you adopted?????

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"However, if a woman chooses to take her clothes off, chooses to have unprotected sex with a man, and then finds herself pregnant, and then chooses abortion as a form of birth control, this is MURDER!"

Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. How is it any of YOUR business??

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For all of the Pro-Choice ?'s-Remember! If your Mother would have "Opted" for an abortion, you would not be here! Think about it and I will pray for you at the Basilica!

Posted by geauxtigers (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you are not ready to be a mother, no man, woman or diety has the right to tell you you HAVE to be one. Newsflash people, women can enjoy sex too. Men have no consequences - they get to walk away and not support it if they choose. We all see it every single day. Why would you want the world to be more effed up than it already is by creating a world full of single parent families? Guess who bears the financial burden!

I commend those who choose to give up their children to adoption - I could not do it. To know that a part of me is out there somewhere thinking that I didn't care enough to try to take care of them...I mean...no woman should HAVE to give her child, a piece of her, as the only alternative to an unwanted pregnancy. Who are any of us to ask a woman to do that?

No one likes this subject because everyone has their own opinion - and there is a REASON for that - it is everyone's individual CHOICE. If you don't like it, then say a prayer to God to help you deal with it. Get over it.

Posted by msfixit (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Roberth, to answer your question about how many have I adopted, the answer is one officially, and 3 others that I have provided with food, clothing, shelter and emotional support when their parents weren't able to do so.

Posted by msfixit (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With regard to the comment someone made regarding rape and/or incest, the data provided by the Alan Guttmacher Institute (which is the research arm of Planned Parenthood) indicates that slightly less than 1% are for cases of rape and less than 1/2 of 1% are for cases of incest.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to agree with this post by Roy:

((Posted by Roy (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

c_8512
We are going to take the unwanted fetus from that woman and implant it in you and you can choose to carry the child to term.

I don't agree or like the idea of abortions but I do believe in the rights of the woman to make her on chose in what is right for her body.

We can ask women not to have abortions but it would be wrong to make it a law.))

Roy, you are on to something...this would be an excellent way to handle this problem of whether or not to abort.

If you feel abortion is wrong, instead of another fetus being aborted, would you be willing to have that fetus placed in your womb (or your wife's if you are male) and you carry it to term, and then you can keep the baby, or give it up for adoption?

There is always a non-violent solution to every problem.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MsFixit: you have adopted 1 (the other have parents so that is not part of this discussion).

But there are thousands of children around the world needing adoption who were not aborted. And you only have adopted one??????

And you advocate for MORE children on this planet???

Clearly u only talk the talk.

Posted by bear45 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

america39120 if you had a pea for a brain you would realize that maybe buttercup is in town because of the tradegy that happened yesterday to her family yes she is from Gulfport but just so happens she is in town TODAY so you need to hush with your rude self and try to pay attention to what is going on!!!

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 23, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Roberth how many have you adopted?

Posted by sorry4ya (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hello to all! I agree that abortion is a very sensitive issue, however, i feel that it is up to the individual to make their own decisions. In the United States we are Anti-Abortion, but yet at the same time, we practice the death penalty. It doesn't make sense. So if abotion is murder and the people doing the abortion and the moms who decide to have them are murderers, then who are the prosecuters and whom are the judges that sentence them to death. I can understand that babies come into the world innocent, but what about those who leave the world innocent. I just actually read an article about a man that was exonerated from death row because of DNA evidence that proved him to be innocent. To me a murder is a murder and i don't feel that God is sitting around judging a murder just because the law rules it to be justifiable in the case of prisoners and problematic individuals. More times than fewer, have we had serial killers whom have gone under psychoanalysis and the underlying problem be that they had no one who cared for them. No unconditional love. In order to reer a child you must take on the initiative of being a positive, active role model for your offspring. You would be surprised at how much of a difference a hug makes to a kid and a simple i love you. Show them that you are there for them . Talk to your kids, know where they are and what they like. You have to bond with them. Alot of unfit parents don't do that for their children and maybe that is why crime is up in the world. If the parents know that they were not going to take care of the kids and give them the appropriate care and affection that they need,then why not abort. No need in making the child suffer and grow up neglected and then they go and take maybe take 10 other lives. Society is so judgemental and so quick to ridicule others and also pooint fingers at others for what they choose to do , but what we must remember is that when you pint a finger to someone else, there are three pointing back at you. Sometimes people make mistakes, and they seek to correct them. I know I do, so how about you.

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

there we go.......bear45.....another dummy! Totally clueless too. i see you missed the gist of my comment. butter being in natchez or gulfport is not the point........having the brains to log in as yourself was the point! as far as rude goes...................i know you don't want to go there with all the rude comments you have posted?????

as for this tragedy.........what tragedy? girl said yesterday that no body was hurt and everything was under control. you people get hysterical about and exaggerate the least little thing. you must be living real boring lives?????

Posted by stateofnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whatever? I pay enough as it is in taxes to support kids that should have never been born in this state. And you think a bunch of crosses set on public property is going to change my mind? Get real.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Firered: I haven't adopted any. However, I am not demanding women give birth to a child they cannot raise for one reason or another.

But to those who so quickly condemn abortion, you should be doing everything imaginable to raise those children that are unwanted already.

But of course as history has shown, people are long on talk and very very short on action.

And lets be clear, many of these children are born with brain damage, physical deformities, AIDS, addictions, and of course there are many many that are NOT white.

So unless you are doing without so that YOU are caring for all these thousands of children, then you really have NO business telling another individual what she should do with her body and her choice.

Posted by msfixit (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, there are many of us who are doing without so that we can support both individuals and agencies who care for these very children. The details of my charitable contributions are no one's business but the IRS's. You are so quick to point out when you think others are being judgemental, remove the plank from your own eye before you talk about the mote in someone else's.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just look at what an abortion would have done to rid the world of some of the jerks that post on here and try to proclaim that EVERYONE ELSE is wrong!!! lol! Wouldn't it have been nice if his mother had practiced birth control (or aborted)? If she only knew then what she SHOULD know now!

Posted by redgirlemt (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

its about time someone addresses the male part of the equation. i, myself, feel its the right of the woman to choose what occurrs within her body. i know that i would not want a baby that i could not care for out in the world with everything thats going on, knowing that one that child will find me and ask why did you do it why did you give me up what did i do. i think what if that childs life is more ****ed up than my life then i blame myself then i decide i cant live with the shame and guilt of putting that child thru what happened then i myself end my life. this is just a crazy thing yes i but i should be able to decide if i want to put a life thru this. Another way to look at it is this child is being put back into the rotation of life and might pick a better family to be with than the one that chooses them. blah blah blah i could go on all day like this. thanks for reading enjoy your day

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Actually, there are many of us who are doing without so that we can support both individuals and agencies who care for these very children. The details of my charitable contributions are no one's business but the IRS's. You are so quick to point out when you think others are being judgemental,"

Sorry, but "many of us" doesn't cut it. If YOU ALL want these children to be born then it is ALL of YOUR responsibiltiy to raise them. There is NO half-way here. According to you all, this is a human life from conception, so YOU ALL need to be the defacto parents.

There is no need for any support to any "agencies". That is just passing the buck of responsibilities.

Posted by ChooseOrLose (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I think about abotion, I think about situations of people I know have been in...

I know one girl who had 2 abotions when she was 15 because her parents didn't want her to have a mixed child. When she was 18 she hid her pregnancy to the 5th month and she had her child. The child now lives with the Grandparents, and the Mother has many many issues. I often wonder if some of her issues aren't because she knows she murdered two of her children.

I know another lady who was raped, and chose to have her baby anyway. Though it was painful for her, she now has a 27 year old son who recently married, and her world revolves around him.

One girl I know is 26 and has two little girls...she must be mentally disturbed because she leaves the two little girls with her parents, and she will talk to people and act like she doesn't have children at all...

One of my close friends got pregnant when she was 17, and when she was in her 6th month she met a family who wanted to adopt her little girl. That little girl is a beautiful 9 year old now, and the parents who adopted her are happy to have the birth mother in their life. She receives pictures and letters, and this past weekend they had lunch together. If she had chosen to abort her, she would have to live with that pain. By giving her up for adoption, she has made an entire family an even happier family with renewed faith.

Another girl I used to know was pregnant, and the Father and his Mother wanted her to have an abortion, but she refused. When the boy turned two the family decided they wanted to start having visitation. The mother moved to Florida and let her son spend a few weeks with his Father and Paternal Grandparents. When she came to pick him up, they wouldn't let her have him back. I saw them on Montell Williams a couple of years later, it was the first time she had seen her son since the day I was there, and the Father wouldn't let her have him. It's sad that the Father and his Mother were so cruel to her and insisted she have an abortion, but later stole her child from her.

I guess my own opinion is I like the idea of having a choice, (in bold<and it would not be my right to judge anyone for making their own decision>). I do believe that we should practice "family planning" by using birth control and condoms. If you aren't ready to raise a child, be ready to use protection, or practice abstinence. I have never been pregnant, but I don't believe I would have an abortion. I could live with it if abortion were made illegal. As a matter of fact at this point I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for me to conceive, and that means one day I may choose to adopt. I hate the idea that a child I would adopt would be aborted instead. :-(

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 23, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Roberth, I see no reason why you should cast stones upon another who HAS adopted before when you have never been through the process. It is her RIGHT to be Pro Life and she has the right to her OPINION. You are talking about people who talk talk talk but never take action, well, what do you do other than talk? Name me one thing you have done that you complain about all the time on here?

I know a girl who had an abortion just because she wanted to look good in her bikini that coming up summer. I think this is ridiculous. If you can spread your legs and do the deed then be woman enough to take responsibility of the consequences. That goes for all those deadbeat dads out there too... The government needs to tighten up on these men who just walk out on women when they decide they don't want a kid. We wouldn't be having this discussion right now if men would help women take some responsibility.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i can't believe that he would put down a person that adopted a child that the birth mother could not care for and also helped to provide for several others. you should be ashamed of yourself for that.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didnt put her down for adopting. Read what I wrote.

You anti-choice people want is both ways. You always play that game and I will have none of it.

You want the children to be born, then raise them when they are here. There should be NO children sitting in orphanages.

You cannot shout about the need for these children to be born and then turn your back on them when they are here.

Go adopt them. ALL of them.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As for the "girl who had an abortion just because she wanted to look good in her bikini that coming up summer".

How is that ANY of your business what or how or where or when she does ANYTHING?

That has NOTHING to do with you.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 23, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, when she openly tells me that I believe she made that my business. And I do believe that you are evading my question that I asked earlier.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 23, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok roberth u wanna play that well I can play that too. What business of yours is the lady who adopted someone else's child and is taking care of 2 others that aren't hers? In that case why are you reading the newspaper and the comments? What business of yours is the goings on in the community? Or how people feel about it?

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You are equating the content of a daily news paper--public business--with what goes on in the privacy of a doctor's office--a medical procedure?? Medical procedures are protected by the US Constitutional guarantee of privacy. How is it YOUR or anyone's business what a person does in their doctor's office??

What business is it about the other person with 1 adopted child? She made it public business when she stated an opposition to abortion and then doesn't do HER PART to raise all those unwanted children. You dont want them aborted, then YOU raise them. Don't pawn them off on some agency or government. YOU RAISE THEM. YOUR WANTED THEM.

What I complain about? I complain about the lack of parental responsibilty and say so publicly all the time. Also defend the complaints toward teachers who everyone blames for schools failing but don't direct their ire at the parents. I speak up often here and in public. My friends are sick of hearing me. I also write to the Mayor or council to state my views. i am not shy about that.

Posted by southern_bell (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I for one believe ABORTION is murder!! But I can not tell someone not to have one. It's not my life and I don't have to live with the guilt of it. The woman who has the abortion has to answer to God not me. It says, "THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER" !!!!!! And he who does shall burn in everlasting fire!!
I was young when I had my kids and it never crossed my mind to have one, and God knows I couln't afford to bring a child into this world. But as your parents would say, "you made your bed you have to lay in it!" If you feel you are not ready for a child, then PROTECT YOURSELF !!!!!!!!!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

southern_bell--you are right about what the bible says. So do you follow everything the bible tells you? Or do you like most christians...pick and choose what you want to follow?

Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to wonder just how many children were actually planned. You know where parents/parent. Sits down and says I have time for this child and I am financially capable. And they actually want a child. Sometimes the time is just not right. That doesn't mean you don't love it just as much.
I guess what I am trying to say is. I am pro-choice and that it is nobodys business but the womans and her doctor. I think too many people are over stepping their own boundaries. If you are against something. Then just don't do it. But to try and force your will on others is wrong.
If I come across someone that has green hair and a face full of hardware. Oh, yeah I'm taken aback for an instant. But it's none of my business. They have not hurt me in anyway. Nor am I forced to follow their lead. Well yet!!
If someone wants to have a same sex relationship. That also is none of my business. I'm not paying their bills. I'm not responsible for their happiness. But some in society are responsible for their un-happiness. They have no right to dictate someone else's happiness. If you don't like it then don't do it.....
If a certain group of people out there can dictate their will on the whole. Where will this end up? I am not a organized religious person at all. But I would never try to force my opinions on anyone else.
I feel that too many people are jumping on the bandwagon of the day and taking it too far. We will soon end up like some of those countries that are not allowed to think for themselves. But are told how to think. North Korea kinda comes to mind. I think each and every one of us should figure out what is right for our own life. And these special interest groups should tend to their own.
Unfortunatley I am still a smoker. Can't quit, just can't do it. I have no problem dealing with non smoking areas. Not smoking around non smokers. But I do resent being treated like a criminal. But yet, they want me to keep smoking so they can tax me more. So what happens if everyone stops smoking. Let's see, what happens to the tobacco farmers. Jobs at these factories, and oh yeah,, that tax thing again. My smoking tax helps pay for insurance for children. If I stop smoking am I keeping a child from having insurance?
Sometimes it feels that the weight of the world is being dropped on top of us all. Because of a certain group of people that want to force their will on us. You can scream, protest and jump up and down all you want to. Now that is your right.. Thankfully in this country. For now....

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whisper...that was well said and probably the most insightful thing written on here.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Eating shellfish is an abomination in the Bible. So I am sure some folks here have never eaten shrimp, lobster, clams, crabs, oysters...

Sin is sin.

Posted by redgirlemt (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:39 p.m.

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Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((Whisper)) you have spoken LOUD AND CLEAR!!!!! So well said and so well put. Who can argue with that??????

Live and let live!!!!!! We need to be thankful that we have the freedom to chose today because there are many people in many countries who do not have any of the freedoms we enjoy and take for granted.

As for the smokers, I don't smoke but I will not infringe on anyone else's right to do so. As for taxing the smoker, if that tax will go to offset the cost of the insurance to pay for all the diseases smoking causes, then, by all means, levy a tax.

And, one additional thing -- as for why or who is spreading their legs, I say stay our their pants and bedrooms!!!!!

Posted by racehorse (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, and I wouldn't believe a rumor about it.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

testify ijohnson

Posted by ChooseOrLose (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just my opinion, but any female who aborts a child because she is concerned about her figure or how she will look in a bathing suit is vain, and no matter how skinny or unmarked her skin is, she is still ugly.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 23, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am neither pro life or pro choice. I do not approve of abortion but I will not force my beliefs on anyone.. I was merely trying to make a point to you roberth. By the way can you please point out to me the verse in the Bible that says eating shellfish is an abombination? I missed that one. Sorry my opinions bother those of you in which it does.

Posted by progressntz81 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you irresponsibly drink and then drive, you could kill someone.

If you irresponsibly have sex, you could have a child.

How hard is this people?

If you are not ready to have a child, you are not ready for sex.

We have created this culture that believes sex is FOR pleasure because it's pleasurable. Sex is FOR procreation, because the laws of biology govern us. It's just awesome that it happens to be pleasurable.

I just see this as a simple argument... not touchy... not complicated. Sex is for adults ready for children!

Also, this isn't so much about GOD. God would no more be the doctor aborting the child, as He would be the zealot driving a white cross into the ground on the side of the street.

God is on the side of the sinner... which is both the protestor and the mother. He weeps for both. He weeps over the cruelty of the protestor and the pain of the mother.

When America starts acting like adults, this topic will go away. America will only arrive at this point when we rear children to understand they are not above the laws of biology, physics, chemistry, ...

Posted by NtzMom55 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Like I said at the top of this post, this is big. This is tough. But above all, this is personal.

Don't forget, it takes two to tango. What about the male's roll in all of this? The female didn't get pregnant by herself. The little "fish" wouldn't have swam to the "bait" if the "pole" was never cast in the first place. What about this...tell your son to spend an extra five minutes in the rest room before going out on a date!!
Sex education needs to start early...for the BOY as well as for the girl. May I suggest that this should be around the age of 10. The talk is tough and embarrasing, but neccessary and appartently, LACKING. I would rather be 'red faced' from talking to my child about "the birds and the bees" rather than trying to figure out what to do about a "surprized" pregnancy.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

umm, i'm not quite sure what you mean at the end of that first paragraph. better not elaborate though. lol

Posted by sideline (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 6:18 p.m.

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Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

do you really mean that your HMO did that? DANG!!!!! i've never heard of anything like that before. it's cheaper for them to tie her tubes and they don't have the right to make that kind of decision for a couple. i'd have a talk with my employer if i was you and see about finding another insurance plan.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

let me just say that i hate the word dang but what other choice is there? lol

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

firered, the shellfish thing was somewhere back in the Old Testament when God was giving all the rules to the Israelites. When Jesus died for us, all the old rules were done away with. Remember the New Wine, at the Last Supper? That is what it is refering to. Remember, Jesus had to die for us, because the only way to God before that was to keep ALL the rules perfectly. And of course nobody can do that. The Apostle Paul was concerned about the food thing too, because in order to witness to the Gentiles he was often put in the position of eating something that the Jewish people could not eat. God sent him a dream where all animals (including pigs and shellfish) were gathered up in a sheet or cloth and he was told he could eat any of it. So that is why eating pork, goats, shrimp, oysters, etc. is not a sin now. "The greatest command is this, Love your God with all your heart, and your neighbor as yourself." It sometimes doesn't appear that we do that I'm afraid, especially when a subject like this comes up.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace--you could say Darn. OR Dagnabbit (sp?)...

I know the latter is yankee, but give it a whirl with our southern accent.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i meant YOUR southern accent.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's cool. My wife's is really bad...but I can't hear it anymore. I don't have one...i have been told i have an international accent.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sorry, but i don't have one. not in the least. my mother is from California and none of her children speak with a southern accent.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

did you get any emails from the Dem site last night?

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i certainly did not. I was waiting for one, but alas nothing came my way.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not from the staff. lol. sorry. someone sent one to me and asked if they could contact me through my personal email and i sent one back asking, "who are you"??? no response. don't know what they wanted.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

someone from the staff or just a poster?

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

some stranger.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's scary.

Maybe it was Chuck Norris.

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

they had posted on the pro-life story, i think. then i got the email after the "big blowup".

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

now apologize for thinking i was a hick!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry for insinuating your neck is the color of Red.

Posted by supermom (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting email I got recently:

Subject: Pro-Life Poster child

“Just before she became pregnant, Pam fell into a coma after contracting amoebic dysentery, a bacteria transmitted through contaminated drinking water.
Her treatment required a series of strong medications. As a result of those medications, doctors told Pam the fetus had been irreversibly damaged, and they strongly advised her to have an abortion.

“She refused because of her faith.

“Pam spent the last two months of her pregnancy on bed rest, and on her due date - Aug. 14, 1987 - she gave birth to a healthy baby boy, who she described as "skinny, but rather long."”

Her son's name: TIM TEBOW ---winner of the Heisman Trophy.


To read the full story: http://www.gainesvillesun.com/article/20...

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

apology accepted. hahahaha

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

luckily for him she refused.

Posted by getreal (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if you are walking down the street and you see someone atempting to kill another person, at the very least you are going to call the police(i hope). are we not supposed to stand up for those who can not stand up for themselves? a lot of coments have been about the womens right to choose what to do with her body, what about that childs right to live? if the mothers life is in danger is the only possible reason to think about an abortion--then it should be up to the mother. by the way the death penilty is another issue all togehter. when ap erson kills another he knows the consiquinces. by the way i am against the death penilty also. there are many great people in history that at one time were considered to be aborted by there birth mother.

Posted by RobinBrownHayes (anonymous) on January 23, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have always been against abortion. I feel that it is being used as a method of birth control. There are too many options for birth control, the first of which should be abstinance. Of course that's not going to happen in some cases but there are other ways. The argument is that it's not a baby until a certain point in the pregnancy. Well here's a thought to ponder- If it's not a baby then you're not pregnant. (No abortion needed)

Posted by southern_bell (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

" notfromnatchez"----I believe in what I read. I'm not pretending to be anything. I don't pick and choose nothing. I'm just saying, who am I to judge someone for having an abortion?? The only person they have to look at and beg for forgivness is God. But murder is murder. And look at all the couples who can't have children, give your child a chance in life and let them adopt it. Don't kill it just because you don't want to get fat, you want to look good in a bathing suit, or can not afford it.

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 1:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Onward Pro-Lifers! Time is on our side!

Posted by thelorax (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 7:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I an adoptee who is quite glad her birthmother chose to give her life with a wonderful family .I am opposed to abortion. My birthmother went thru quite a bit while pregnant with me but she faced her problems head on and her unselfishness made it so that someone else ,who could not have children ,would know the joy of parenthood.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The no shellfish thing is in Leviticus.

Other don't ascribe to the "wipe the slate clean" loophole. Depends on if you are looking for loopholes I guess.

As for the person who said, "Well here's a thought to ponder- If it's not a baby then you're not pregnant. (No abortion needed)". You are correct. Since it is not a baby, you are having a D&C. Nothing wrong with that.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks roberth, I should have looked up my references - only excuse is I was feeling bad that night. I don't look for loopholes, I just believe and have faith. I suppose you'll have some smart comeback for that too. You are such an intellegent person. Such a waste.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 24, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No, its not fair to compare an abortion to a D&C. A D&C is done when the baby dies during the pregnancy. An abortion is done while the child is still alive. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't believe in abortion as a birth control method myself, but I don't think it should be totally illegal to have an abortion, either...such as, in case of rape, incest or danger to the mother's life (and then it shoud be up to her). I do believe in sex education and birth control prevention.

As far as men not wanting to step-up to the plate and take care of a child they've fathered, (and some men have them spread out all over the place)...they should have been responsible enough to have had a vasectomy to kept from getting any female pregnant...since they were just poking fun! Many times vasectomies can be reversed if a man decides that he wants to become a father at a later date.

Don't just lay all this responsibilty on the female. It takes two to tango.

Posted by roberth33 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

firered, all I can say is thank god for the laws of the United States and the US Supreme Court which allow for a woman to determine what she wants to do with her own body.

I look forward to a Democrat--any democrat--winning in November and appointing the next 2 and maybe 3 members of the US Supreme Court, which will continue to guarantee a woman's right to determine what she wants to do with her own body. A right that is not to be given over to another human being without personal consent.

Thank god for the USA.

Posted by racehorse (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If so many lives had NOT been aborted, those babies would be in the working class right. They would be paying taxes and Social Security benefits. Now, one of the problems in the United States is the fact that the "baby boomers" are living longer and they will not have benefits when they will need them most. Think about how the sin of killing babies has affected our social security. Think about how one of the babies aborted could have been the one to cure cancer, or AIDS or been a minister that could help lost people know about Jesus Christ. Think about how killing unborn babies was so unfair when it was used for "birth control" AND it was used for birth control in lots of cases. Just think about how the United States is failing in God's eyes.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you racehorse. Very good points - who are we to know what those babies could have been?

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

racehorse.......for the sake of argument.....think about how some of those babies you want to save have also been Jeffrey Dahlmer, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Ramirez, Son of Sam, Jack the Ripper, Mary Ann Cotton, Ed Gein......on and on and on......... a whole lot of serial murderers and evil people. Let's not forget Hitler. Don't you wish Marilyn Murray O'Hair was aborted? Just food for thought!?!?!?!

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 24, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, america39120 for once you made a good point. I, however, do not choose to wish death upon anyone. That is left up to God when it is a person's time to go. Still a good point though (for the sake of argument!)

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

america 39120 - the name is Madeline Murray O'Haire and her thing was prayer in public school. But the kids can't pray in school anymore - "oh god don't let me be pregnant" so maybe that is our problem after all. (Saracism)

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 24, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lol freedom.. maybe so!

Posted by racehorse (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

america39120, for the most part, they could have been just like me or you.

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

(roberth33)God will have to help The Good Old USA if some liberal such OBAMA OR HILLARY is elected! Our country will becoming a 3rd world Country!

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

freedom.......did I spell all the other names right? Please forgive me if I didn't dot all my i's and cross all my t's......next time I'll pray that I spell every name right!! *lol* Maybe if old Maddy wasnt' born we wouldn't have half the problems we now have in the schools......put prayer back in the family 2......then we may be better able to direct our minds to something else other than sex. Maybe then we wouldn't have a need to beat down each other about this subject.

Posted by america39120 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RON PAUL IS LOOKING BETTER EVERY DAY!!!! >>LOL<<< ........TOO MUCH BICKERING OR A WHOLE LOT OF NOTHING WITH THE OTHERS!!!

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As a Conservative Republican, my man FREDTHOMPSON dropped out day before yesterday. Dr. Ron Paul is looking better all of the time and sounds good!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody seen this one? Interesting!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

Posted by linenbreeze (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((roberth33)) look at these picture then say it's just D & C.
D & C's are not done on a live babies! Learn things before you make comments like that.
These babies were all alive when their lives were violated.
If you have children I feel sorry for them because if you had not wanted them they would have been just another D & C in the garbage can. Arn't you glad you Mother wanted you!

http://www.priestsforlife.org/resources/...

Posted by nosyrosy (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What about the people who choose not to abort only to bring a child into the world only to abuse and torture that child until they die anywhere from 1day old until in their teens or older. That to me is undue suffering. Abortion never crossed my mind, but I didn't abuse my children in any way nor did I let anyone else.

Posted by firered (Elizabeth Geter) on January 24, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, all I can say is go look at those pictures in the link above... Tell me that's not torture or abuse.

Posted by nosyrosy (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, I would still rather people have the choice to abort than for a child to spend their entire life, however long it be, being tortured only to die in the end.

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

or they throw the child off an over pass onto on coming traffic.....OR let's not forget about the "FATHER OF THE YEAR" award going to the man in Mobile who threw 4 of his children off the bridge!!

Posted by peaceout (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Madeline Murray O'Haire was murdered by a con man.

Posted by linenbreeze (anonymous) on January 24, 2008 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

David Roland Waters, an ex-employee of American Atheists murdered Madeline Murray O'Hare & also led the police to her dismembered body.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

((Peace007)) I post under ((destiny)) while in NATCHEZ for the simple fact IF ANYTHING IS CHANGED ON HER COMPUTER SHE WILL DO SOME FUSSING! so i don't even worry her blood pressure... i see now that some people just get plum bent out of shape over it... my APOLOGY'S!

((america39120)) all i can say for this person is they must either BE ((ijohnson)) OR DAMN CLOSE IN RELATION!!!

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

((america39120)) calling people dumb??? or dummies??? WOW!!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi buttercup! Hope it is all getting straightened out by now. Hang in there - we are all behind you. Well, at least most of us are and we can ignore the rest! LOL

Posted by linenbreeze (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Compared to the murdering of children what are the stastics of aborted babies. According to the sign there are 3,624 babies aborted ever hour. For the last 35 years that is a total of 126,840 babies! I am sure that is only an estimate, the total goes way beyond that.
I doubt very seriously there are that many children abused or murdered every hour.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on January 25, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks ((free)) it really does MEAN ALOT TO ME KNOWING THAT!!

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on January 27, 2008 at 1:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

buttercup that's kind of you to think of Destiny's blood pressure. I hope you didn't think it bothered me that you posted under her nic.

Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on February 1, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((peace)) did you recieve my email the other day about your curiosity?? Just curious myself.. don't want you to think i was avoiding your comment

Posted by faithblessings (anonymous) on July 20, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Comments from you all, are just like
the situations , different.Whew!!!