Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 13, 2008 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They may be thinking that lots of us will need a place to chill.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on May 14, 2008 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace, the US has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisons. This is definitely another industry we can be proud of as it represents a win/win situation for the private and public sectors; it is a very high growth industry as well and we may be able to look forward to future expansions if we offer CCA the right incentives.

The prison will serve the public by providing local jobs correcting the behavior of the growing number of lawbreakers. It will serve the private sector with an attractive investment opportunity and hopefully our local CCA will establish a prison factory to further serve the need of the private sector for low cost production as so many other private prisons have done.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...

Posted by NtzMom55 (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 1:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If a prison system can have descent management, why can't our hospital?

Maybe someone knows the answer to this question, when our new prison has 2,000 inmates, will the population of Adams County show a 2,000 increase or are the prisoners considered ghosts?

Posted by concerned (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 5:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

yea and they are not even being charged for their services.Don't let Quorum hear they're looking for a managment company.

Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting article, EnKiKur. The irony in your post isn't lost on me. Perhaps items with the "MADE IN THE USA" label affixed should state whether or not that item was produced by prison labor?

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Enkikur has a great idea -- we could get the legislature to put more people in jail, that way giving more work to police, lawyers and prison companies. Their money would trickle down to everybody. Brilliant!!!!

We'll get the legislature to do it in a way they can turn one group of people into a scapegoat and tell the rest of the population they had done a good thing. I think black men would be a good group to put in jail more than anyone else. They are only 7% of the population, and their votes could never get anyone dis-elected -- besides if they are felons they can't vote!!!! Nobody will even notice if we jail them disproportionately.

Talk about a growth industry, we could ultimately put 40 or 50% of our population in jail if we needed jobs. No need for long sentences, just a few months at a time. Then the other half could serve, of course government officials would not have to serve.

Somebody has to mold us into a decent bunch of citizens -- I say the legislature is the perfect group to do this -- they are without sin and capable of no wrong, so let's make their word LAW.

Every town in Mississippi could have a nice shiney new prison on their roads leading into town. And we could be proud, proud, proud of how brilliant we are. If we need more work, we could even start putting foreigners in jail.

Imagine the people of Mississippi coming up with this idea to create local jobs! And they say we are stupid.

(I intentionally wrote this stupid enough for the readers to understand, but my tongue is way over in my cheek)

Posted by MsM (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The irony isn't lost on anyone...we ALL know that the majority of products with the "Made in the USA" label is produced with prison labor and we also know who you plan to fill those prison beds with. Everyone knows that prison is the "new" slavery. What is "ironic" though (pun intended) is that the same people who are against more casinos and hotels (that create jobs) in this city are singing praises for more prison beds. Prisons are springing up all over Southwest MS but, how many new schools have been built? I've said it before and I'll say it again...they are hypocrites!!

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wouldn't need more prisons if people weren't committing more crime. Lock 'em up and toss the key.

Posted by justin (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur...."the US has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's prisons."

I haven't read the article, but I think that the reason for this is most countries have severe penalties (with which I agree). Think about it. If you got your hand cut off for stealing, or castrated for raping, in the very least a severe caning for minor offenses I think that these are pretty good deterants for repeat offenders. Not to mention other countries' very stringent death penalties. No need for prisons.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

<<Just my opinion>>For you who are throwing puns around about the prison system. I will safely say 98 percent of the convicts are exactly where they belong. This is not a laughing matter. It is not a joke and it's time for you to realize this. You can hit back with "lighten up', "I,m joking," "get a life" or "who asked you". THIS IS NO FUN THING, and as long as citizens have nothing better to do than sit around and make fun of it, it will get worse. It is getting worse day by day for there are many out on the streets that desperately need to be locked up away from society.
These people have committed criminal acts against God, private citizens, and the American way of life.
They deserve to be locked away from decent people who struggle everyday to live their life free of crime and terror. If they are put to work inside the prison walls, GOOD, they won't work out side the walls.
They are pond scum and they definitely need to be locked up away from decent hard working people.
I whole heartily agree with justin 100 percent. I still say turn the pumpkin patch into a town square for public punishment.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's the problem destiny, the prisoners aren't being kept locked behind the walls "or fence" in some cases. The prisoners are being exploited as slave labor by allowing them out early into work release programs for low wages instead of companies hiring law abiding citizens for a decent wage. When companies don't care who they hire, as long as they will work cheap, that makes it hard on law abiding legal citizens to find work at a decent wage. How can one feel safe knowing that prisoners are out working, and as you know "escaping", instead of serving their whole time inside? In the future, will it be that more folks will turn to crime, become a prisoner, and get that number tatoo (666), in order to secure a job to feed their family?

Thank you for that link enkikur. I read the first few lines which is similar to my own thoughts about prisons and work release programs, and I will read the whole site when I have more time.

Posted by Cursechez (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Prisons and their profits don't grow fast enough annually for my tastes. We need more profits and more jobs. We must lobby our legislater to make more and more stuff illegal every year.

Increase the funding to prisons! My 401K depends on it!

While we're at it, those teachers make too darn much! You see that shiny two year old Honda Civic Mrs. Jones just bought!? That boondoggle she is making should instead go to the classroom for my kids education! My kid needs ipods and laptops to learn so they won't end up in our new prison! That administrater bunch sure got a hard job making polisies and whatnot though. They need another raise so our curiculum gets better! If you want your kid to have an descent education, we must lock up everybody she might come in contact with in her formative years.

Posted by NatchezEnema (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder if the 2$ tax on heads on beds will apply to them? heheheheh

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why not use prison population to manufacture stuff. Cheap labor. Otherwise they are just sitting there costing the state more money.

As for taking jobs away from hard working people? Hardly. Look around Natchez. There are a lot of people who WON'T work and rather collect $$$ for doing nuthin'.

I keep seeing/hearing about the illegals here who can certainly get jobs. Why can't Americans? Because they want a free ride. Too damn lazy.

Posted by Howard_Scholar (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm amazed at the great zeal and energy displayed to support the expansion of a prison. Wouldn't it be such a tribute to humankind to invest those resources and energy into eliminating the ROOT of the problem rather than the RESULT of the problem. Allow me to explain.

The unjust social structures that have plagued our great state for decades prevent all children from receiving a QUALITY education. Many teachers put very little time and effort into crafting lessons that will EFFECTIVELY engage the students. This could be due to the lack of resources available at schools within certain demographics. Some teachers, because of prejudices, fail to see the importance of learning pedagogical approaches that allow them to effectively relate to students of diverse backgrounds. The students become disinterested and school becomes a weekday social club. Teachers are frustrated and so goes the saga of how crappy schools get crappier.

So the unjust social structures led to poor education. Poor education leads to no employment. No employment leads to hopelessness and homelessness ( or poverty). When a person reaches the hopelessness/ poverty stage, he or she begins to use coping strategies to survive OR escape the reality of his or her life: Violence, drugs, sex and believe or not CHURCH. Unfortunately, the latter is sometimes ineffective and the former take precedence. Prisons are then built to insure that society doesn't have to deal with the monster that it helped to create. And because no one likes monsters, we're okay with pouring billions of dollars a year into keeping these monsters away from us. Why not just destroy the prejudices and social structures that create the monsters in the first place.

What if, instead of adding more beds to the prison, we built a trade school where individuals could learn brick laying, carpentry, wielding, etc. Upon completion of the program, the graduates would be assisted in starting a construction agency and each would own a percentage of the company.

What if, instead of expanding the prison, we built and educational center, complete with an educational arcade open after hours, an art studio, a computer lab, a parenting center, etc.

What if, instead of pouring all that money into more prison beds, we used it to fund a summer school where students could attend interactive classes in their favorite subject areas, making summer school a proactive incentive rather than a reactive penalty.

The possibilities are endless. The question is are we willing to address the ROOT of the problem or will continue to use billions of dollars of year to massage the RESULT of the problem. One thing leads to another.

But what do I know. I'm only 24.

Disclaimer:
To be sure, I'm not diminishing one's need and obligation to maintain self control and to govern one's self in a manner that supports the common good of all.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

here's some suggestions. Stop looking for the state to raise your kids.

Parents could spend time teaching their children. Parents could take responsibility for their children.

Adults can learn the meaning of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY.

There is no free ride in life. Life is hard. Grow up and be responsible and stop looking for someone to "give" you something. You want someone to give you something? Look in the mirror. That is the person who will give you everything you want.

As somebody wrote on this site a long time ago and it stuck with me. Why are libraries never closed because of overcrowding? You want to learn?--just do it. You want a hand out? Sorry buddy. Not happening.

Personal Responsibility. Look it up.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"What if, instead of adding more beds to the prison, we built a trade school where individuals could learn brick laying, carpentry, wielding, etc"

interestng how the illegals can come here and find work in these fields--and out in the fields. Yet people born here cannot??????????

Imagine if all the people on the public dole went out and worked at all the jobs the illegals are now doing--then the illegals would stop coming and those getting a free ride would would actually be productive.

As if.

Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

While looking up personal responsibility, I also looked up social responsibility. It, too, seems to be in short supply these days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_resp...

Posted by Howard_Scholar (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Natchezsouthside,

I agree that personal responsibility is important.

But when my mom is working 2 jobs that both pay pennies above minimun wage to insure that her children have food and clothes, who is at home to teach "personal responsibility?"

Or when a 10 year old, lets call her Samantha, has to raise her siblings because her mom is trying to escape her reality by using drugs, and Samantha is penalized for showing up to school late because she has "motherly duties" to fulfill... Is that not personal responsibility? Based on the school's attendance policy, after # of tardies Samantha is deemed absent. A certain # of absences lead to the lowering of a grade. So no matter how smart she is, because of her tardiness and subsequent absences, she will be viewed by school personell as irresponsible, unpunctual, that is unless, someone happens to "give" her the time of day to listen to her side of the story... and not just listen but stop "looking in the mirror" long enough to help.

And while libraries are never closed, I'm not aware of one library within walking distance of a non- White neighborhood in this town. Neither am I aware of any public transportation in this town that will take me there.

Finally, no man is an island and despite popular belief, no one simply "pulls him or herself up by their own boot straps". It takes the support and commitment of other people for ALL OF US to succeed. You might pull the strap, but you didn't make the boot, you didn't make the leather, and you didn't create the gravity that allows you to stand still long enough to pull the strap or anything else. IN OTHER WORDS, WE NEED EACH OTHER.

Community . Look it up.
As I said, one thing leads to another.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look poor people and difficult family situtations have been around as long as humans. Times are tough for some people. It is your mom's responsibility to figure that out. SHE is the parent. NOT the rest of society. Stop looking for everyone else to bail you out of a tough situtation. Where is the extended family? Cousins, aunts uncles, etc etc. Maybe you all need to move in with a relative and pool resources rather than spreading it so thin.

As for libraries in white/non-white neighborhoods, what does that matter???? I grew up in a large town with ONE library. I WALKED. If you want something bad enough YOU figure out how to get it.

Sure community is there. The library and the school FUNDED by the community are there. But YOU have to attend and WORK at school. YOU have to get your butt to the library. YOU have to particiapte in class and do the homework. Not just exist waiting for someone else to figure out how to help you. Go mow lawns for a few weeks and buy a used bicycle to get you around. THINK. Be creative. Motivate YOURSELF.

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Forgot about Samantha--there are already all sorts of social welfare programs for children like her. the community ALREADY funds them.

Looks like you know her story. What are YOU doing about it? Who are YOU calling to help her?

Look it is sad but she is not society's child. There are hundreds of thousands of Samanthas out there. If you want society to raise her, then does society get to say that her mother should be sterilized so she can't bring more Samanthas into the world?

Where and when does it stop? For how long does society go on providing for all the Samanthas??? How long does it have to support her mother? And all the other mothers like her? For how many generations before we say NO MORE???

Something has to give way here. Someone has to say enough is enough.

Posted by Howard_Scholar (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You win

Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, because that was the point, wasn't it?

Posted by vidalia1 (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whew!I have known many Samanthas, Many have succeeded.

Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To get back to the point, the USA has 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's prison population. Look up Social Responsibility NatchezSouthside and answer this simple question, do you think this country is on the right track or not? You're right Howard_Scholar, don't let ignorance cloud your vision.

Posted by peachpit (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ha Ha!! Not enough room already. Hasn't even opened. So you suppose that the guy was walking around looking at the prison and reading for the record the The Democrat and said, "Boys we need to make it bigger." LOL

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on May 14, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't see Howard calling for more handouts natchezsouthside. He is only calling for changes in social structure that address causes instead of results.

Keep plugging away Howard. It is the energy and passion of youth that will bring about these changes.

Eliminating the undesirables has already been tried and rejected by society natchezsouthside. It began at the Eugenics Record Office in Cold Springs Harbor Maryland, migrated to Germany for the social cleansing of 18 million undesirables of diverse origin and character, slid east to continue in the pogroms of Russia, took a holiday in China to explore one child policy, and now resides in inner city Family Planning and in out of the way places like Burkina Faso where the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation work in concert with a program endorsed by Bill Clinton and the Rockefeller Foundation.

In Burkina Faso intense scientific scrutiny is being performed on the female reproductive system while the young women of that country are being taught feminism and participating in low interest loan programs that do things like provide startup capital sufficient for buying one cow or four chickens. So, take heart, efforts are still underway to solve the problem of Samantha without dipping into the middle class taxpayer pockets that are themselves one or two paychecks from being in Samantha's position.

Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, I am just glad that it might mean a few more jobs for locals. In the big picture, we have more people incarcerated because we have more freedom and people tend to take that freedom too far. That is when it becomes illegal. In many countries, when a certain crime, like rape, or murder is committed, the felon is put to death instead of being incarcerated. That would clear out a lot of cells here.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 14, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Howard does have some good ideas.

Build a trade school inside the prison to teach the inmates a skill. Get jobs from the outside that they can do on the inside with the trade they learn in trade school. Offer them academic classes, as well, and even allow them to obtain a GED or college credits. Have them plant and grow their own food. Hire ex Marine Sargeants to discipline and train them the same as a soldier is trained, with the exception of weaponry. Have the trumpet wake them up the same time that young marines in boot camp are awakened to and make them run and do the same excercise as soldiers in training. Pay them minimum wage and have them purchase their food, haircuts, clothes, toiletries, linens, towels; whatever they need, just the same as a soldier. This will teach them to become self sufficient by giving them gardening skills, trade skills, and money management. And most important, make them serve their whole time so they wont want to return. Why should an inmates life be easier than a soldier who serves his country? The soldier has to pay for his necessities and so should the inmate.

Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For those of you interested in really understanding the numerous factors which contribute to the US having the largest prison population in the world, there's an interesting article recently published in the International Herald Tribune.

U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/23/a...

Posted by triscuit (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nice job Howard.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't do all that peace - it would violate their rights. After all they didn't "volunteer" to be in prison. If they don't want to go to class, can't make 'em. (saracasm here)

Posted by Howard_Scholar (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I did a little research last night... here are my findings:

Evidence shows that children who do not read by third grade often fail to catch up and are more likely to drop out of school, take drugs, or go to prison. So many nonreaders wind up in jail that Arizona officials have found they can use the rate of illiteracy to help calculate future prison needs.

from- http://www.wonderofreading.org/statistic...
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Business contracts with the prison system to underpay inmates for jobs like answering the company phone. It is very very cheap labor. For the first time ever, in five states, more is spent on prisons than on colleges, according to a new report from the Pew Project on the States. Last year alone, states spent more than $49 billion on corrections, up from $11 billion spent 20 years earlier. However, the recidivism rate remains virtually unchanged, with about half of released inmates returning to jail or prison within three years. A close examination of the most recent U.S. Department of Justice data found that while one in 30 men between the ages of 20 and 34 is incarcerated, the figure is one in nine for black males. For black women in their mid- to late-30s, the incarceration rate has hit the one-in-100 mark. Pew also found that in the last 20 years, inflation-adjusted general fund spending on corrections rose 127 percent while higher education expenditures rose just 21 percent.

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In California "if the child isn't reading on 4th grade level when tested they will plan to budget building another jail cell. “Based on this year’s fourth-grade reading scores,” observes Paul Schwartz, a Coalition "Principal in Residence" at the U. S. Department of Education, said “California is already planning the number of new prison cells it will need in the next century.” from Democracy and Equity: CES’s Tenth Common Principle 1998 by Kathleen Cushman
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In Indiana prison information and they base it on 2nd grade scroll down to the
comments area #2 Investing in LiteracyThe former governor of Indiana has stated that determining the number of new prisons to build is based, in part, on the number of second graders not reading at second-grade level. Low literacy is the socio-economic factor prison inmates have most in common.
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In Arizona officials have found they can use the rate of illiteracy to help calculate future prison needs. Evidence shows that children who do not read by third grade often fail to catch up and are more likely to drop out of school, take drugs, or go to prison. So many nonreaders wind up in jail that (These statistics were provided by The Los Angeles Times, the Los Angeles Unified School District, and Every Person a Reader by Stephen D. Krashen.)

from: http://www.edu-cyberpg.com/Literacy/stat...

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on May 15, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That is an interesting article VillageIdiot, but it fails to convince me we should change our way of doing things.

The only change that might be helpful in lowering incarceration rates long term would be if we instituted a policy of having all young people serve some mandatory prison time in service of the country. This would create a better class of citizen who was already aware of the downside of a criminal life and in addition would create a better class of prison guard who was hip to the tricks of prisoners. Time served could be banked for future mistakes, or sold to politicians...a sort of prison credit system.

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

freedom, if prisoners were required to purchase what they needed, it wouldn't take long before their empty stomach would cause learning a trade to become desirable. You could give them a choice...bread and water, or steak.

Anyways, it was just my opinion to make prisons more self sufficient and less taxing on law abiding citizens. I was simply trying to offer a solution instead of complaining that housing inmates is so expensive to the tax payers.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I understand that peace, and I was just saying they won't do it. The ones in this prison are going to be illegal aliens and I bet they know more about their "rights" than we do. Even the ones in city and county jails often refuse to work, because they would rather sit in jail and get fed and taken care of. I don't think they can actually be made to do any work anymore or the ACLU would be down on the warden.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on May 15, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Peace and freedom, it is unfair that the people who don't commit crimes have to pay for the ones who do. But the truth of the matter is that prisoners are an auctionable commodity and the people we have charged with making our laws would rather prisons not be self sustaining as that would destroy the profit making possibilities.

Some prisoners do pay financial penalties for their crimes in the form of asset forfeiture. In the case of persons convicted of drug crimes even gold dental work is removed. Drug laws are especially profitable to enforce because of the seizure laws. In some large cities the narcotics squads are completely self funded through what they seize.

If prisoners had to provide their own food that would deny the prison additional revenue gained from feeding the prisoners.

There are several ways prisoners can be induced to decide to work but some of those ways aren't legal to use in public prisons, though private ones can get away with them because who is going to know?

Life in prison often isn't as much of a cakewalk as it seems. if you google 'abuse in cca prisons' you will find dozens of articles that explain why.

Posted by MsM (anonymous) on May 15, 2008 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To Howard_Scholar:
The information in the article that you reference is EXACTLY the point that I was making in my earlier post. The statistics stated in the article are very real and when you add other factors such as racial profiling (which is very real), etc. it is not coincidental that African Americans are incarcerated at faster rates. It is the "new slavery" in America!
READ THIS
"Inmates produce items or perform services for almost every major industry. They sew clothes, fight fires and build furniture, but they are paid little or no wages, somewhere between five cents and almost $2.

Phone companies charge high amounts for collect calls and inmate care packages can no longer be sent from families directly. Inmates must purchase products from companies to be sent in, which feeds capitalism, activists charge.

Although the costs of prisons is skyrocketing and consuming state budgets, money continues to be spent to push more Black youth into prison, activists assert. Many education and prison advocates charge there is a plot to populate U.S. prisons based on the dumbing down of America’s youth. Figures show those most likely to be incarcerated and to return generally have the lowest level of education. The report said, “While states don’t necessarily choose between higher education and corrections, a dollar spent in one area is unavailable for another.”

U.S. spending on prisons last year topped $49 billion, compared to $12 billion in 1987. California spent $8.8 billion on prisons last year and 13 states spend more than $1 billion a year on corrections."
Prison watch groups note corporate-owned prisons feed job-starved communities where businesses have disappeared. By incarcerating so many people, America deals with warehousing them and not finding out why they are incarcerated in the first place, advocates said.

“The fact is, it’s a business and a readily accessible, ‘free’ workforce removes prisons’ incentive to rehabilitate, especially those that are owned by corporations,” Atty. Ratliff said."

In essence, the system is already stacked against most poor people from the day they are born. So, to "natchez_southside"...it's not that all "poor" people are looking for a handout. They just want an even playing field.

Posted by Lilmoosiepcp (anonymous) on May 19, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

IDK if anyone brought this up already but have you notcied that we have one story stated that the Hospital is laying off workers and now we have the prison getting bigger...idk maybe its just me but i see some sort of pattern here...we cant support our emergency workers but we can add more room to a prison...whatever i guess im just rambling

Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 20, 2008 at 12:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

it sort of seems like that old saying, we all remember hearing some years ago...you're either with us or against us...in the near future...you either work for, or with, the prison system; or, you are an inmate working for, or with, the prison system. This should help young graduates to choose their college majors.