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Colin Powell endorses Barack Obama for president

Published Sunday, October 19, 2008

WASHINGTON (AP) — Colin Powell, a Republican who was President Bush's first secretary of state, endorsed Democrat Barack Obama for president Sunday and criticized the tone of Republican John McCain's campaign.

Powell said both Obama and Republican John McCain are qualified to be commander in chief. But he said Obama is better suited to handle the nation's economic problems as well as help improve its standing in the world.

"It isn't easy for me to disappoint Sen. McCain in the way that I have this morning, and I regret that," Powell, interviewed on NBC's "Meet the Press," said of his longtime friend, the Arizona senator.

"But I firmly believe that at this point in America's history, we need a president that will not just continue, even with a new face and with the changes and with some maverick aspects, who will not just continue basically the policies that we have been following in recent years," Powell said.

"I think we need a transformational figure. I think we need a president who is a generational change and that's why I'm supporting Barack Obama, not out of any lack of respect or admiration for Sen. John McCain."

Powell's endorsement has been much anticipated because he is a Republican with impressive foreign policy credentials, a subject on which Obama is weak. At the same time, he is a black man and Obama would be the nation's first black president.

Powell said he was cognizant of the racial aspect of his endorsement, but said that was not the dominant factor in his decision. If it was, he said, he would have made the endorsement months ago.

Powell also expressed disappointment in the negative tone of McCain's campaign, his choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as a running mate and McCain's and Palin's decision to focus in the closing weeks of the contest on Obama's ties to 1960s-era radical William Ayers.

He said McCain's choice of Palin raised questions about judgment.

"I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States," Powell said.

Powell, as secretary of state, helped make the case before the United Nations for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, launched in March 2003. A retired general, he also was the nation's top military commander, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, during the first Gulf war under President George H.W. Bush.

McCain disagreed with Powell's decision and said he has been endorsed by four other former secretaries of state, all veterans of Republican administrations: Henry Kissinger, James A. Baker III, Lawrence Eagleburger and Alexander Haig.

"Well, I've always admired and respected Gen. Powell. We're longtime friends. This doesn't come as a surprise," McCain said on "Fox News Sunday."

Asked whether Powell's endorsement would undercut his campaign's assertion that Obama is not ready to lead, McCain said: "Well, again, we have a very, we have a respectful disagreement, and I think the American people will pay close attention to our message for the future and keeping America secure."

Powell said he does not plan to campaign for Obama.

Comments

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SURPRISE !SURPRISE !

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Colin Powell is a traitor to the Conservative Cause! Initially, he became a general because of his color and the "genes" of himself! Then Bush made a "Stupid" mistake and appointed him as Secretary of State. His endorsement means nothing, because 99% of the black race will vote for Owhampy because he is black, that is partley "black"! The reminder of the votes will be the "I feel sorry" votes. Owhampy and the Fruit Punch of Delaware are just two controlled "Stool Pigeons"! Look at his advisors?

Posted by ITSME (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a suprise huh! Boy this next 4 years is gonna be bad.

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not one to read into the future (madam cleo, remember those commercials), but I knew Powell was going to endorse Obama all along! This is not shocking for me.

The color of his skin huh Rushing?

As I have mentioned before, I am a black male who supports Obama, and not because of his ethnicity. However, if that's how I decide to exercise my right to vote, then that's my business. Some white people will not vote for Obama because he is black, go figure.

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IN/ you hit the nail on the head and finally omitted that you will vote for Owhampy because he is black or African American! It's not what Owhampy will do for America(that's a zip), thanks for telling everybody the truth! McCain believes in a America for all!

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rush did you not read what I stated? Here it is again.

"As I have mentioned before, I am a black male who supports Obama, and not because of his ethnicity"

This statement means that I do not support Obama because he is black but for some of his ideologies. The next line states:

"However, if that's how I decide to exercise my right to vote, then that's my business."

This would suggest that I have a right under the constitution to vote for whom ever I please that's running for office.

If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to ask

Posted by jrn59 (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Really think my party needs to get a big broom & sweep the party clean! Always knew Powell was a closet democRAT. Hey he never would have gone so far if not for the President Bush family. Well, his vote wil not help. It is the white eyes that are voting for Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

Posted by jrn59 (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Be smart, vote McCain/Palin on November 4, 2008 the best there is!

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a wonderful window on Natchez and its residents this blog provides. Over the years that I have been reading the articles and resident comments, my friends and family all over the country have often asked how bad is the racism in this area and this small town. Over the years I have given them this website to read and judge for themselves. When the bloggers respond with such overt negativity as those above I get calls and emails from the far flung reaches of this great country with comments like, are these people serious, are they living in the same country as the rest of us, how can such uneducated, un-Christian, callous remarks be made in this day and age. So the view from the outside looking in is not politically correct for tourism, obviously not much forethought given to that. So the fact that this blog is read by many from near and far is a testament to unfortunately the "fringe" racist’s. It's too bad for the rest that live here and don't comment but reap the negative and adverse affects of these very sad comments. Vote for whomever you want, but can't you be nice. I am white and over 59, and with much reserch and reading and talking to people all over the country and asking them to define their problems and needs I to am proud to vote for Obama.

Posted by harjedalen (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a racist comment that General Powell became a General because of his race. Why do Conservatives always belittle the military service of Liberals? Powell served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Highest Military Officer), National Security Advisor (Under Reagan), and Secretary of State. Powell's biggest mistake was allowing himself to be used as a tool to sell lies about WMD in Iraq to the UN. I will vote for Obama because I agree with his Ideology and I because he is further from Bush than Mccain.
Vote for whoever you want for whatever reason you may choose, that is the joy of democracy!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

General Powell is not a liberal.

General Powell was not used when he spoke about WMD to the UN. He believed that intelligence that was presented to him. He said it himself...it was an intelligence that was poor...Not the administration or Powell himself.

Powell may have endorsed Obama, but that's all people see.

He doesn't agree with Obama's plan for the military. He doesn't think that Obama's plan to withdraw the troops is viable.

Powell is stil a man to be respected. He's still a Republican. He's still a conservative. That hasn't changed.

Posted by harjedalen (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Point well taken, he is not a Liberal. Still, why do conservatives often belittle the military service of those those who they perceive as somewhat 'liberal'?

Posted by lroberts1 (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I WONT VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF WHAT HE STANDS FOR , NOT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN,, OH BY THE WAY IS HALF WHITE, I AM HALF CHIPAWA INDIAN AND IRISH, PROBABLY SOME WHERE DOWN THE LINE BLACK TWO.GO BACK 37 GENERATIONS & SEE WHAT YOU ARE...IF YOU DARE..I COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT COLOR HIS PARENTS WERE, ONLY WHAT HE WILL DO TO THIS WORLD NOT ONLY THE USA.
YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK, WHY NOT GET REAL AND DO THE (RIGHT THING)YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IT IS,,,, SO JUST "DO IT"

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Powell is not a conservative, nor has he ever claimed to be. He considers himself a moderate.

Is there no liberal among you brave enough to take my little quiz on the other post page? If only I were surprised.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some of you guys need to take your blinders off because you are being led, along with the crowd, Democrats and Republicans, like a bunch of work horses. Both sides are guilty of wrong words and actions......

American Civility Goes Awol
http://www.caglepost.com/column.aspx?c=6...

Posted by America (anonymous) on October 19, 2008 at 11:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Everyone is a racist in some form or fashion. We all have an underlying tendency to use slanderous words and uncouth language towards others of opposite races. The notion that Colin Powell received his rank of General primarily because of his race, is belittling and highly un-American. General Powell went to war in Vietnam sir to protect your right to slander his military rank and your first amendment rights. To call him a traitor simply because he believed that loyalty to country is more important than party loyalty certainly defines your character sir. If we love this country as we say we do, why can we not put aside the partisanship and work together in solving our problems. Hey socialism is not a bad idea. Oh, and another thing, the Republican party which has gone so far as to claim Jesus and their hero, negate every teaching of his except one: marriage between man and woman (which some uncertainty remains around). Jesus hated the rich. Jesus preached that we are our brothers keeper. So if he obligated us to care for our "brother" should we not be helping the poor also and not just the wealthy or ourselves.

We as Americans are supercilious. We believe that we are the best at everything, yet we can barely graduate young minds in the fields of technology that will be the future of the world. My God, college is a bad thing it seems in America. If it is not handed to us then we can't do it and we will not do it. We have this idea that other people are subservient to us. But it seems we are subservient to the Chinese, being that they own about a good 55% of our economy (fact-less figure, not based off of actual monetary figures).

Iraq was a mistake, and maybe even Afghanistan. I mean, if you look at it in the sense that Osama Bin Laden knew they could never beat America in a pure military waged war, but as in Vietnam, they stood a chance in a long drawn out war that strained America's military and economic strength. The best option for a response to 9/11 would probably have been to use Spec Ops and utilized the C.I.A, not the full militarily strength of the United States.

That being said, Colin Powell's endorsement does have impact because of his reputation and past achievements. He is a man of impeccable judgement and strong character. He has braved the battlefield of war and Washington D.C., so in my opinion the man's got a right to vote for whomever he wishes. It is his God given Constitutional right, as with everyone of us on this blog.

Amen and may God bless everyone of our sinful souls. We certainly need his blessing and grace.

Posted by frogprincenessntz (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 3:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I will not be voting for Obama, but it is not because he is black. A true Christian understands that God made all people, just different colors. We are not allowed to hate others and be true to Jesus Christ. We would not allow our children to be taught hatred either. There are too many points about this man that scare me as I am over 60 and remember too much history. Others feel the same as below:

http://wicatholicmusings.blogspot.com/20...

Posted by Geaux_Tigers (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I WONT VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF WHAT HE STANDS FOR , NOT THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN,, OH BY THE...

Dear roberts1,

Could you do us all a favor a not type your messages in capitol letters? That's the equivalent of yelling on message boards and makes you seem a crazy. Just a tip.

Thanks.

Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Birds of a feather flock together. That is all I have to say about colon powell and hussien obama.

Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody remember when Charles Evers, Medgars brother, joined the Republican Party a few years back. It was all a big media stunt. I bet he never voted Republican in anything, because everything he ever stood for was liberal. Colon Powell is the very same in everything he has done. He was conservative in party but a true closet liberal.

birds of a feather.........

Posted by rhymeandreason (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE? Colin Powell is one of the most respected men in the US and highly regarded internationally. How incredible that you can boil everything down to racism and what you're afraid of ....your glasses are always l/2 empty...

"lunatic fringe we know you're out there".....red rider (a band not a bunch of communists!)

Posted by NatchezHighGraduate1993 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama for President! Yes We Can! Yes, he WILL be the next President of the United States of America!

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not voting for Obama because his tax policies will destroy our economy. He keeps spouting his tax cut for 95% of the people, we that is misleading and false. Most small businesses, those that actually create jobs and have employees make well over $250,000.00. These are the folks that will be hardest hit. Unemployment will rise dramatically, leaving more people on unemployment and welfare.
I cannot believe that any educated person would fall for his nonsense.

Posted by inocentbystandr (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone who can actually consider voting for Hussein is unAmerican. You do not love your country and have no respect for any of the millions who have died to make this country what it is. Not because he is black but because he is a secret muslim who himself does not respect or care for this country. Can you people not realize the wool that is being pulled over your eyes.

Posted by alphamale (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whats wrong with this country?Just vote for who you want and stop all this black and white or muslim,wop, kike crap .

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Colin Powell came out he said because of the lame terror-baiting, socialist-baiting and Muslim-baiting and hatred he saw in this race -- from the Republicans.

VOTE OBAMA FOR CHARACTER -- FORGET HIS RACE!!!!!

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NO SURPRISE HERE: I must admit, I was waiting for the posts on this one. I even believe one of you posters said, in trying to give an example of a black man you WOULD vote for, mentioned that IF Colin Powell would run for President, you would vote for him, I guess in an effort to show you're not prejudiced. What a joke! I knew it was all grand standing because now, YOUR Colin Powell has endorsed Barack! LOL!!! Listen, Colin is NO traitor to the Repubs, he is just making the wisest choice of the two. Years ago the Republicans rejected McCain, and this should have been resounding to him.

One comedian hit the nail on the head. There's nothing left. Keep bringing up the "I agree with McCain's policies" excuse all you want, but the writing is on the wall. He said in a VERY hilarious manner, "If you can't bring yourself to vote for Obama because of his black half, vote for the white half!" LOL!!!!!

I happen to be voting for Barack because I DON'T agree with the "policies" of McSame due to these "policies" being very much business as usual cloaked in some word rearrangements. The war, how corporations are governed, taxing on imported and exporting goods, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, etc.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't be ridiculous Teach, I AM voting for McCain because I disagree with nearly every idea Obama has. I am voting on the issues, as should everyone.
Where do you stand on the issue of infantcide?
Obama corporate tax plan will destroy our economy! See you at the food lines...

Posted by canttoteitdragit (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would rather have more of the "SAME" than
what we will get from Obama!

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've lost some respect for Colin Powell on this one . obama doesn't have ideologies , he has idiot logies . Almost every single month he has campaigned something untrustworthy has been called to our attention about that man and still some people cannot get it through their thick skulls that obama is not the man to lead our country forward . he might win the election but if he does we loose . he won't win with my vote . McCain/Palin 2008' All The Way !

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A lot of the white people of the South CANNOT vote for anything but Republicans. It is their disability.

Buchanan and Nixon when they schemed to drop the black vote said that it would be 100 years before southern whites stopped hating the Democratic Party -- just like it was a hundred years they hated Republicans after Lincoln freed the slaves.

Never mind the pretend financial issues they mention. They can't change their vote. They are like cattle.

Listen to what they say for a laugh and to offer them some compassion.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

duhuhuh, your disability is definately mental in nature, this is why you cannot grasp the "pretend" financial issues are indeed that...issues. Try to keep up, argue with issues rather than insults.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, you are right! And the rediculousness and IDIOCY of it all is WHAT HAVE THE REPUBS done for the South other than push around phrases like, oh, look at us, we're hunters, we are for family values, etc, when as history has shown us, especially these last 8 years, NOTHING could be further from the truth! But say these dumb buzz words and a few others, and you have the South, namely MS on lock as far as voting is concerned. I have NOT seen any poor whites (making no more than $50,000/yr/ one salary) advance any further than poor blacks, but hold on to old ANTIQUATED ideas, just to say, I vote Republican. Family Values? Don't make me laugh. Sarah Palin and her family values certainly shine above Barack's. LOL!!!! How hilarious. When will you learn?

Republicans don't care for POOR folk. With them on a NATIONAL level, it's not really about black, white or brown, it's about GREEN. Can we say ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION? Now that's one hot topic that is NOT being thrown around as much. You know why? Because YOUR Repubs actually support it. One was deemed as saying that if all illegals were sent back to their country, our economy would collapse. Does that sound like someone who is against illegal immigration or who will even levy laws against it or increase enforcement of current laws against it? Get your heads out of the sand. I would have said get your heads out of your @#$%^, but there is NO need for that. Then we have someone who clearly says, they would much RATHER the country continue in the saddest condition I have seen in MY lifetime, before they would want a different direction that would help us ALL out of this mess. One things for sure, this mess "ain't" gonna be cleaned up in 4 years, this doohicky of 8 years is going to take some time! Roll up your sleeves whoever inherits this mess, there is gonna be work to do big time!!!

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah--what about non-whites from the South?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are absolutely correct teach and here is the amount of money we and our children and then theirs and all future generations will be responsible for
www.truthin2008.org

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How about the issue of ABORTION? How anyone can watch an unborn child move during an ultrasound or other imaging devices and still support abortion? As technology improves, we constantly improve our ability to see that life develops earlier and earlier: at conception. A six-month old baby cannot take care of itself. It will die if not fed, changed, kept warm, etc. The argument that it's OK to end a life in the womb because it cannot live on its own is flawed. The child is alive, even though it's not been born yet: ending its life is murder. I think that there should be exceptions for some things such as endangerment of the mother's life, possibly rape and incest, certain genetic or medical conditions of the baby that would render its life tortuous, unbearable, or vegetable like. Abortion should not be available to conveniently end an unwanted pregnancy. If you kill a six-month old baby you're a murder: what's the difference if you kill the baby while it's still in the womb?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Do yall remember David Walker? He tried to warn us.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/0...

They want more, (CBS/ AP) Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Monday a fresh round of government stimulus is a good idea because there's a risk the country's economic weakness could last for some time. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/2...

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too, my attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
- Barack Obama

I'd like to keep my money thank you!

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nonwhites in the south (blacks) still around 16% of the population have had quite a time with racist policies for over a hundred years.

Our question after dishing this out for a century is do we really expect that blacks should be all sanitized and pure in their motives so quickly? I mean if they believe Barack's polices are good anyway should they scarify themselves or flagellate themselves so they do not let themselves vote for a candidate who is black??? The question is really -- stupid.

And what if someone black who usually would think that Dems or Republicans were cut from the same log but they will vote this time for a black man who just happens to be smart, articulate and ambitious -- so what if his blackness compelled them to vote? There are still not enough of them to counter the white racist vote!!

I am amazed at how much sissy whining happens over black folks voting for a black. There is no evidence that there are a lot of free-enterprise closet Republican blacks out there. Why all the whining by white folks, whose racist voting is much larger in sheer numbers?

It is evidence of the sheer poverty of vision that whites care so much about blacks voting for blacks. Now if the black candidate was a Republican -- and the party had just a few years ago party operatives talking openly about writing blacks off completely -- then for a black to vote for a black Republican might be ridiculous racism. But that is not what we have. We have blacks voting for the people and the party that pushed the Civil Rights Bill. It's entirely consistent.

Yeahuhuh will tell it like it is. I was raised a racist white -- I know how many folks there are who say they are for the economics -- but they are for the economics of lower taxes to keep the blacks from getting it -- at least that is how they started. Before that it was bussing, it goes way back and is intricately bound in our southern character. Now that dissing on blacks is not so PC because of their race, just so happens that being scared of Muslims, shooting first and asking questions later, and the pipe-dream of a tax-free nation also happen to sound good to southern whites. Because conservatives tend to be scared of diversity.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ATTENTION ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS: You will not be required to have an abortion just because it is legal, but if happybunny gets her/his(?) way, abortion will be made illegal and then no one will be allowed to have one, even if your child gets brutally raped and impregnated by that horrible act she will be forced to go through a pregnancy that her little innocent body may not be capable of going through and which could endanger her life. Abortion in the case of rape and incest of a child who has become capable of getting pregnant, and some do very early, is in itself protection of innocence. Do you really want abortion to be completely illegal? Shouldn't a woman or a parent have the right to consult a physician and their clergy in order to make the choice of whether or not to have an abortion? Abortion should not be used for birth control purposes and there should be laws regulating when abortion should be allowed. Infanticide is illegal and any doctor who goes along with allowing an infant, after it is born and breathing, to lie somewhere and die of starvation should be arrested and charged with murder, along with it's mother/father.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vidalia, La Statistics

Estimated median household income in 2007: $36,300
Estimated median house/condo value in 2007: $78,900
White Non-Hispanic (71.0%)
Black (27.1%)
Hispanic (1.0%)

Ferriday, LA statistics

Estimated median household income in 2007: $18,100
Estimated median house/condo value in 2007: $60,600 Black (74.9%)
White Non-Hispanic (23.9%)

Natchez, MS statistics

Estimated median household income in 2007: $27,500
Estimated median house/condo value in 2007: $78,700
Black (54.5%)
White Non-Hispanic (43.9%)
Hispanic (0.7%)
Two or more races (0.6%)

What does this tell you? It tells me that if the median income is below $30,000/year, how come so many Cadillics? How can anyone afford a mortgage? It is called GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE! It will only increase for them if Barack Obama becomes the next president.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Before yeahuduh calls me stupid, how about reading this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rezko

How nice that a convicted felon supports (and I mean REALLY supports) Obama.

Posted by harjedalen (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are some real bigots spouting off on here. It shows where Mcsame's votes are coming from. Yes, we can (vote for whomever we please without listening to crazies). I work in Maritime Industry and Senator Mccain has a bad history with us!

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh I get it now duhuhuh, you feel compelled to vote for Obama because you are a reformed racist and feel guilty about it.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well the statistics above tell me that Ms. is poor. With all the years of conservatives running the govenment in Ms. I don't see new businss ventures coming (especially here in Natchez) I don't see healthcare getting better, it's very bad here in Natchez, certainly the level of education is deplorable throughout the United States. I see minimum wage jobs every where because the attention paid to education is absent, I see jobs shipped over seas and the plight of the middle class worsening. Cadillics hummmmm! Well sir I don't see your statistic of who owns Cadillacs in your numbers only your personal assumption, where in your numbers does it show goverment assistance is paying for mortages. Your numbers do in deed show that a change is needed because the country is hurting. Thank you for proving the point.

Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah...I am a non-white Republican.

Where do I fall in your explanation for why people vote the way they do?

Posted by inocentbystandr (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People say they like Nobama's economic plan. Do they not realize that his financial advisors are the main ones responsible for the current financial crisis? And as far as the Democratic party, they call themselves the poor man's party. That is why they want to keep you poor and make everyone else poor. That way they can buy your vote with government assistance. We will all need assistance when Osama's tax plan puts all the small businesses out of business. Also, does no-one else realize that we have had a Democratic congress for the last two years and how it seems that the country has gone in the crapper since then?

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yomama I can go ahead and call you stupid right now. You did a good job of recognizing that the place we live here is chock full of blacks. You point is????

George Bush installed much of the cast of Iran/Contra into his government -- convicted of funding and arming terrorists on BOTH sides of the ocean.

Enron's CEO was one of Bush's primary contributors, probably some of the biggest criminals ever dollar-wise.

You are pitiful. If you didn't issue a peep against Bush then and now you want a continuation of his policies, and that because of some pretend offense at criminals in Obama's government support, then you are CERTAINLY stupid.

And happybunny, darling, I don't do guilt well. I am supporting the right guy and don't have to feel guilty.

Think up another lie to tell about people who are more honest than you are.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

duhduhyuh: blah blah blah, the pitiful one is you. SO NOW YOU ARE CALLING WIKIPEDIA A LIE!

AND PLEASE, go and look in a thesaurus to find some other word to use besides STUPID please.

You always have an excuse dont you... uhh sickening

My point is why is it that if Ferriday, LA has a median income of $18,000, HOW CAN THEY AFFORD LUXURY VEHICLES? You dance around the truths of reality and throw your liberal giberish around all you want. Keep going, it doesn't matter, nobody is listen. Everybody can see the truth about Barack Obama and his socialism beliefs. You are the "stupid" one for defending such a cult of personality.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

notfromnatchez if you are a black Republican I would say that you are not the norm. If you are from some other non-white race you have a different heritage likely and the specifics are yours to know and ours to guess about.

You want me to list your possible motives for supporting the Republicans? Why don't you do that?

I will say that conservatives in general are people with a way of seeing that is a manifestation of a smaller sphere of concern -- a tried and true faith in people being out for #1 being the best thing -- not bad in and of itself. They are people who therefore see conflict more threateningly and have a history of being out for #1 both with their own personal finances and with their national identity.

Like anyone, their ideology has a good side and a bad one -- and they cannot see their own errors as well as the rest of us see them. Unfortunatley these people make bad governors -- they philosophically distrust government and tend to destroy it. They also pick fights that are too expensive for the rest of us to pay for.

That's why we don't do so well during Republican administrations and do well under Democrats. You shouldn't confuse what is best for you with what is best for the country. The last people that were hired on that side were hopelessly corrupt, and the ones running now are just as eager to lie to get in there and do their magic.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We all need assistance now, including WALL STREET, and today they are asking for more and more handouts. Thank you W and republicans for the ruination of this country and for your attempt at making us all feel like kaka when we questioned the wisdom of W and the justness of his wars. This is why I hope and pray that Republicans don't get 4 more years...not only us, but the world can't take 4 more years. We must have a break from republican lies and rules, or this country, along with many others will die. And my decision is not based purely on emotions, it is more based on survival of the human race.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yomama, you give these stats just to try and prove that folk in Natchez are on welfare and driving Cadillacs???? Whoa, have you had a concussion? Please find and REPORT said offender. I would love to meet someone who is taking my tax dollars and driving a Cadillac, but then again, what year is the said Cadillac? Anything less than a 2005 doesn't count because you do have auctions that can sell one for far less than the retail buy. I don't hold a person's purse strings. I don't know what someone can afford. I don't know whose in their family who could buy them said car. My point is, unless you know fact, stop spouting off your "observations" as to who is doing what. You don't know. Is that what upsets you? I have seen Ford F350s, nice trucks parked consistently at run down trailer parks. Am I too ASSume or believe that the persons there are welfare recipients and how could they afford such a vehicle? Honestly, if you don't live knee deep in debt, have a low mortgage in a decent home or rent, you CAN afford a Cadillac.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yomama YOU tell us what your point is. You sound like an ordinary racist flake.

What you wanna go slash some tires and make your point? Bet those guys would chew you up and spit out the bones.

In fact, why don't you go to Ferriday and ask one of those people what you want to? Tell me when you do it I want to watch. I'll bring your diaper!!! Hahahah!

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Ferriday, LA has a median income of $18,000 (ha) then most of them surely don't have to worry about an income tax increase regarless of who wins the presidential election and most of them would qualify for pell grants. The majority probably don't have to pay any tax period with the exception of sales tax, property tax...local tax. I wonder how many Ferridians vote? I hope the new/old mayor will get some new businesses to locate there.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL!!! Now I know I "done" heard it all!!! You think Wikipedia is an AUTHORITY on information?! Please hun, do your research, everyone knows that the information in Wikipedia is highly subjective and the information posted there is from individuals like you and I, not from an authority on the person or subjects listed there. ANYONE seriously holding Wikipedia as a medium is simply laughable to me, given this light. Google Wikipedia. You will find many stories and articles on fraudulent information placed on its pages and frequently, users peruse the pages to "purge" out the false information.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, all I am doing is stating the obvious. That is, in no way, racist. YOU are the one who is considering it just that.

You wont need to bring me a diaper, there are plenty of them in Ferriday. They keep multiplying and spreading the idiocracy. How about go and ask those teachers at Ferriday Upper what they see everyday. Let them tell you about how those kids only know to steal and lie, and how to do it without getting caught. Go ask them about how their parents do not teach them ANY morals. The parents (or should I say the mother since 80% of these kids have no father) are having these kids with no thought as to how they will support them or what kind of environment they will grow up in. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM and you laugh about it. Actually YOU support it!

Ferriday compared to Louisiana state average:

Median household income significantly below state average.
Median house value significantly below state average.
Unemployed percentage above state average.
Black race population percentage significantly above state average.
Hispanic race population percentage significantly below state average.
Foreign-born population percentage significantly below state average.
Institutionalized population percentage above state average.
Number of college students significantly below state average.
Percentage of population with a bachelor's degree or higher significantly below state average.

http://www.city-data.com/city/Ferriday-L...

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is that so funny time4change? This is not a lie, see for yourself:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Ferriday-L...

It is real amusing to see you people thinking this is a joke. SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW is mentioned everywhere except the UNEMPLOYMENT and you laugh???

What kind of Idiots am I talking to? I quit, I have wasted enough time. I will leave you Morons on here to continue your gurgling.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What YOU gonna do about it Yomama?

Whine some more? Go over there and make someone work.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey teach, just because you are black doesnt mean you can justify Wikipedia as an illegitimate source. But if you want others, here ya go:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/7...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08212008/pos...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/117851

NOw you want to call the Chicago Times, ABC News, New York Post, Newsweek... should I keep going?

HAHA! You know, it is sad that you people always have some lame excuse when Obama's reputation is threatened. Pitiful...

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since when is providing documented sources to prove a point considered whining? If that is the case, I must have whined my way all the way through both undergraduate and graduate school.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You, yeahuduh, have NO SOURCES for what you preach on here. The reason for this is because everything you say is YOUR OPINION! You love being on here because you have all of your cronies on here to support you. BUT here is not the real world. The Natchez Democrat website is NOT reality.
You are the racist one. It is you who are racist against intelligent, hard-working, un-opinionated people who do not want to see their country be controlled by a leader who is connected to terrorism, socialism, anti-American preachers, and Felons. And you have wasted enough of my sweet time. In real life, you would be backed in a corner so easily. But here, there are no corners. That is why YOU LIVE ON THIS WEBSITE. NO real life, just the one where you reside, full of your opinions, your insults, and your stupidity.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was raised poor . I vote Republican . My life and livelihood is better than it has ever been . I still believe in America and its freedoms . I don't believe people have the right to murder a person whether its in the womb or in the arms . Murder is murder ! I resent being called an idiot because my beliefs may differ from someone elses . I believe I don't owe anything to anybody because of their race . I believe we,as Americans and whites,have over paid for the sins of our fathers. I resent being called a racist or a bigot because I believe we should all carry our own weight and show a little respect for each other . Minoritys in this country have been given too much for too long ! Stand up on your on feet and stop looking for the handouts obama is promising you . The last fifty or so years our government has spent a lot of money and tolerance for you to be able to do that . I realize there is people of every race and social class that are in this same category . This race should not be about a black and white issue . I do fear if obama is not elected there will be an uprising amongst the blacks if they don't get their way . I hope this election can end peaceably . Americans First !

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yomama, since you're white, it's obvious and HAS BEEN obvious your twisted agenda and OPINION has NO MERIT but to be disparaging. Again, don't send me links to what someone else has posted or written, you simply are riding their coattails. And since we already know your perspective on things and your agenda here, we are not too worried about you or your kind, as you pose NO threat. Stick a fork in it dude, it's done.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So then Southernbelle, YOU ARE AGAINST the death penalty? And actually Southernbelle, a DEEP fallacy of your beliefs is you believe just because you vote Republican, that no one else could possibly hold these same beliefs. I can concur with you on every one of your beliefs except on abortion. I DO NOT believe it is the right of ANYONE to tell a woman, teen or pre-teen what to do under INCEST and RAPE circumstances, should she become pregnant? What if her father or uncle did the deed? I just don't believe that. I also don't believe abortion should be used as a form of birth control, which means, anyone else, should keep their baby. You had unprotected sex and it caught up with you? Well, you made your bed, lie in it. I mostly vote the Democratic ticket and I also believe in Freedom.

How have you and your ancestors OVERPAID for past sins? Please don't speak on pay because if pay were to EVER commence for "past sins" as you put it, it would be unbearable. No one here brought up anything on past sins but you. Is this some underlying prejudice that you are harboring? Sounds like it. I also believe we should carry our own weight, I vote Democratic. I believe in God, family, friends and country. I vote Democratic. I believe in God's Word as the guide for everything in our lives. I vote Democratic. I believe in the right to bear and USE arms. I vote Democratic.

I am glad you admitted your "fear" in your last statement as you are NOT the only one here with that fear, you just voiced it. Fear not, black folk are not the low down people you perceive us to be. We could never do in capacity what history did to us, you know why, because we actually are a loving people, sometimes I think to a fault. Your statement reminds me of the woman at the McSame town hall meeting that said Barack was an "Arab." It's that same ignorance and fear mongering that makes you feel the way that you do, but you get points from me for admitting it.

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes we Can!!!

I volunteered at one of the Obama campaign sites and there was a high level of intensity. I thought that after the first hour I would leave, but hey, if Fannie Lou walked up and down the dirt roads in the MS. Delta, I could just as easily offer my time to such a great cause.

My fear is that if McCain is elected, public education will get even worse; the war would be endless; well I'm just going to stop there.

obamaya, here we go again with the name calling. This is what Republicans do, create fear! What's even more sad, how do people expect McCain to run the country when he can't even effectively run his campaign?

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Teach, if I cannot use links in that was not written about people (including wikipedia), then how will I be able to use any piece of information? Everything has been written from someone else ESPECIALLY when it has to do with ANOTHER PERSON! What more do you want? A gold plated document sent to us via alien transportation? You are right about one thing, IT IS DONE! Just because you are on the losing side, don't tell me I cant use sources in which someone has written it. Not worried about me, or "my kind" huh? And who is the racist here? Dont be mad just because you have no sources to back up YOUR opinions. Face reality, face the truth, CHANGE only means SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't find any of this amusing......and obama you are absolutely right the ignorance starts at home, each and every home black, white or whatever. I see many responses full of "opinions,insults and stupidity" here. The ND carries stories that are worthy of the throw-away papers and if they would concentrate on more important matters at hand here in Natchez than 3 legged dogs and 2-3 month outdated chat rooms and concentrate on more important issues to it's readers maybe new ideas could be formed and tried. This is not a forward thinking paper (it's stuck in the past), nor is it inspiring or represenative of the outside world. I would not waste a nickle purchasing this paper but because it's free on the internet we can all contribute here. Where are the indepth journalistic contibutions as to why our schools are so bad, healthcare in Natchez so bad. Where are the inspiring editorials that will want to make us all work together for the improvements of our community working together black/white rich or poor, republican or democrat. Who cares what political party you belong to I didn't see it happening before the elections and it sure isn't happening now.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Public education is ONLY getting worse because:

1) More and more single mothers are having children and depending the government to support them.
2) More and more people are depending in the government; maybe LESS money should be spent on this and MORE on public education.

No name calling here incognito. I only call people names who have called me names. So PLEASE DO NOT say I am starting the "name calling". That blame should go to yeahadudduhduh.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yamama, I merely correctly pointed out that if you are going to use a source, Wikipedia is NOT the best, there are more reputable sources that don't carry the fallacy rate of Wikipedia. I actual would like a gold plated document and my vote is from reading and actually studying Barack's policies and where he stands on the issue.

Sorry you're on the losing side bud, it's my mission to see that things don't continue in the same fashion they have been in the last 8 years and if voting and doing my little part will help, then I am all for it!

GObama/Biden '08, now where's my bumper sticker?!

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, 2008, I am not saying ignorance is not everywhere. I am simply referring to statistics in Ferriday. And as for the 3 legged cat, that was to help raise money for the humane society. Healthcare in Natchez is bad because people are LAZY. I witnessed that first hand BOTH at Natchez Regional and Natchez Community.

I agree with you about all coming together and working to cure these problems. I think that is why Vidalia has a good system. Black or white, they come together. Just look at their school system. It is not that way on either side of that town and it should be. I think the biggest answer as to why it is not can sum it all up with one word: Laziness. This is who Obama wants to cater to. It is not fair that people like myself have went to college for over 7 years, established themselves worthy of making 6 digit salaries, and now have to give huge percentages back to the government to help lower middle and lower class afford their luxury car. I was poor, but I got student loans, and I still have to pay them back JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE!

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again Obama, you are right, we the people have the control of education for our children, if it is not taught from kindergarden through high school the student is lost. If children were taught about sex education/ homeeconomics (and I don't mean cooking) and the down fall of their lives after unexpected and unwanted children are born maybe the cycle will stop. It is all about education, and the education needs to start at home. In this day and age their is NO excuse for teen pregnancy, (unless raped or molested) and that also includes Ms. Palin's daughter.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You all keep arguing. I am actually learning from you....in addition to what I am watching on television. But keep in mind that people's minds are allready made on who they will vote for.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How in the WORLD could you actually say that Wikipedia is not a credited source but Obama's policies are? COME ON! Has it ever occurred to you that MAYBE politicians state policies that may SOUND GOOD JUST TO GET SOME VOTES???

If all else, you Obama supporters always throw that last card up about how for the past 8 years, Republicans have put this country where it is. That is ALWAYS the last card you play. But if you stop and actually READ MCCAIN'S POLICIES, maybe you would see they are not like the ones we have now.

I do not use McCain's policies as a source because they are legitimate sources just as Obama's are not. But believe what you want. Most losers generally never accept defeat.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OHHHHH Wait JUST a minute 2008, if there is NO excuse for teen pregnancy? How about Barack's mother, who got pregnant with him OUTSIDE of wedlock in 1961. Not only that, but got pregnant by a colored man. I am not sure because I was not there, but in 1961, weren't inter-racial couples unacceptable? I have heard that a white woman dating a man of a different race was considered "repulsive". Now let's also not forget what Barack Obama's father was classified as: a Muslim, an athiest, a firm supporter of socialism (his paper called Problems Facing Our Socialism proves this), and A DRUNK!

So now before you start on the VP elect Palin's family, you may want to focus more attention the PRESIDENT ELECT Barack Obama's family.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obamayamama I though you were leaving.

I don't think anyone should diss you for using Wikipedia. But if they want to that is ok. It is certainly a cut above your average thought.

You have misunderstood this election. It is all about the last 8 years and what Republicans have revealed themselves to be.

You guys pretend that the record doesn't matter. And you fail to notice this is the same ol' BS Republicans say every election. Now they are saying it louder because the guy we chose is so much better than the guy you chose.

And let's also remember, Republicans are the 38% party. They have to lie or misrepresent something to get to rule 100% of us. Otherwise they would have more than 38% who would sign up full time.

But you are yourself genuinely dumb, no offense. Just a fact. Also my opinion, but you were dumb before I said you were dumb. he,he!

When you admit I was totally right and you were totally wrong about the Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush deficit spending, then you will be holding your head up a little. Until then, you are still dumb.

I'M WITH COLIN! You people lie too much for me to be silent.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is not fair that people like myself have went to college for over 7 years...

All I can say is lol and after 7 years even. Wouldn't you just love to know what type of business that 7 years has gotten obamayama and how much of his/her income is from a product or service purchased by the poor or middle class? Please help us out obama, because I'm wondering if you ever hit a lick other than on your keyboard. What do you do for a living to make 6 figures? You're obviously not an author or a journalist. lol

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The difference in killing babies and some convicts is very apparent ,don't you think ? I do believe in killing extreme cases like with murderers and such .I try not to pre-judge anybody . I know for a fact that if you are a miniority you get to go to the first of the line for special treatment with government money . It's been that way all of my adult life . I believe we should all have the same opportunities in life . In an ideal world we would . I don't believe all black folks are bad people . I do believe most of them have milked the federal government long enough . But to put the record straight , I like people in every race . My very best friend was Japanese . I think God knew what He was doing to make us all different . It makes this old world more interesting . But please spare me the old how hard it was on my ancestors because they were slaves . It was bad but I'm sure they all weren't beaten or raped by all the slave owners . I'm not that naive. I have seen signs from that era that read "Irish need not apply". There are an awful lot of slave cabins still standing . You just can't find any left from the poor whites that were even looked down on by Negro servants . I said it before and I say it again ,this shouldn't be a race about the color of our skin . It seems like it always comes down to that by people with nothing to say . And to you 2008, why don't you read the New York Times or something . I love our paper and even appreciate this venue to be able to agree to disagree . I think all in all The Democrat is a good paper .

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No.....Sen. Obama is a product of an outside of wedlock pregnancy, is that his fault? NO...In 1961 it wasn't against the law to marry a Black person, except maybe in the south. Again in 1961 other choices were not taught by either parents or schools. Sex was a topic much like politics and religion that was kept in the closet, at home. However, this is 2008 and their is no excuse today for not sitting your daughters and sons down with frank, explicit communication about sex. When Palins grandchild is born it is not the fault of that child either, but the responsibility DOES LAY with the parents of these children having children. I think it is a shame that the father is quitting school, the girl is quitting school, and why should they be looked at any differently than any other teen agers (no matter what color) facing an out of wedlock child? If their parents werent who they are these young kids would be on welfare to.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

obama you don't seem to understand that one is either an atheist or a muslim, but not both. And while it may have been a disgrace here in Natchez back in the 60s for a white woman to date or marry a black man (and that don't mean that it didn't happen), it may not have been so disgraceful in Hawaii. At any rate Obama is here, he's mixed, and he's running for President and that my dear is what's chapping your hide.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll be back...

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Southernbelle, honey, YOU initiated and brought up YOUR fear of how blacks have been treated so poorly in the past, that when Barack is elected, there would be some type of revolt. YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, your fear. I merely responded. So you don't need to be spared anything.

Barack's mother IS NOT A CANDIDATE FOR President nor is she a candidate for Vice President. But we all DO KNOW who's child has a child out of wedlock, don't we?

Posted by emp (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The whole thing is simple. If you are a progressive liberal, vote for Obama. If you are conservative, hold your nose and vote for McCain. If you are in the middle, McCain is your man. If you are a black racist, Obama is your man. It comes down to this; There are only two reasons to vote for Obama. First, being a liberal (for abortion, gun control, gay marriage, massive welfare, big government, etc). Second reason, you are black and a racist. If you are a white racist, you have several to choose from.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Time4change, quit rewording what I state on here to use as your advantage. I never said I had a 6 digit income, I said my education ALLOWS me the potential to earn this. If you really think I have to be something special to make over 100k a year, that only shows your cognative limitations. It CAN be done. You teaching this to your children ( the fact that it is merely impossible to make 100k a year) only further qualifies you and them to accept socialism into this country's policies. "I cant make that much money, but other people can and then they can contribute to me". What a great and fair policy!

yeahudud, yeah you are with Colin, a traitor of his own party as well as a coward JUST LIKE YOU.

If you cannot understand the laws Reagan put into effect AFTER Carter and BEFORE Clinton, then that is not my fault. I am explaining anything to you. Call me dumb all you want, it is only making you look like even more of an arrogant, cocky moron. Just a fact that I am dumb huh? When all else fails, call me dumb. I have pointed out so much to you and all you do is come back with the same old out of context replies. Some things just never change.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love this:

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad that you don't like democracy Yomama.

I don't know where you could live. Maybe South Africa? Yemen?

Afghanistan? Alaska!

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey yeahudud, since Obama's father is from Kenya, how about there? Since his main supporter is from Syria, how about there? Since Valerie Jarrett (Michele's boss) is from Iran, how about there? Or I got it:

How about Iran, since Robert Malley, an advisor to Obama, was found to be linked to the Hamas that controls Gaza AND is connected to Iran and terrorism!

Nobody wants a president who is connected to terrorism, Anti-American preachers, socialism, racism (yes, read his book and read his wife's thesis from Princeton), and convicted felons.

Now, unless you can find anything worse about McCain (except the fact that he spent 6 and a half years as a POW), then I rest my case, my point is proven, and this arguement is over. YOU LOSE!

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Emp, who said that a Black person is racist just because they will vote for Obama? I'm Black, and I don't like gay marriage. I'm not for abortion. I think massive welfare is a major downfall for this country. I'm not racist. I will vote for Obama. So, what's your point? I can actually deal with everyone elses comments on here, but yours didn't quite "click" with me.

Either of your choices don't relate to me, other than me being Black. So with your multiple choice questions, is there a choice 3? Is your choice 3 saying that I would vote for Obama because, maybe, I fit into one of your examples?

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think we've all made up our hard headed minds here. If I'm proven wrong in the way that I vote ,I can only hope it is a good wrong and we all come out better for it . There has just been too many red flags go up with obama for my peace of mind . Good luck and may God bless us all !

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on October 20, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey draw, I've been wondering where you are. As for all this political stuff I've decided to go ahead and vote for both candidates, it is the only fair thing to do.

How is life up there in God's Land? It must be pretty this time of the year.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey EnKiKur! I don't post on here much now, because it seems like I get pounced on or called names. Sometimes I can't resist.....like today. How about it if we both vote for "Joe the Plumber"? Everything's fine in Jefferson County. We are still trying to move ahead. This is a beautiful time of the year.

Posted by humbleone (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is it that so many republicans supported Powell until he endorsed Obama. He's still the same man. The more I read these blogs the more I realize that Natchez, and other cities in Mississippi, still have hate in their hearts for African Americans. Why can't a black man be just as smart as a white one with the same credentials. And why does his race automatically discredit him as being just as capable of doing the same job as a white one, maybe even better. Go Obama and Biden

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on October 20, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I'm glad to hear from you draw. These past few days reading the blogs has kept a knot in my stomach. I will be so happy when the election is over!

Posted by dottie (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

But who is going to protect the American people?

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

humbleone, Obama is the candidate that brought race into the mix byt mentioning his "funny name" and that he doesn't look like anyone else on the dollar bills.

Powell did what Lieberman did and crossed the party lines. Lieberman got railroaded by the dems and virtually thrown out of the party, he is now a liberal. I haven't heard about any Republican backlash, have you?

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Dottie

The American people need to protect themselves! How you ask? By taking responsibility in the education of their children, by not judging others by their color, by being open minded to new ideas, discussing alternatives implementing them for the best of all our citizens. By demanding we bring jobs back to this country and not out sourcing our childrens future, by taking care of this planet through agressive pro-active environmental choices, by families become financially fiscally responsible, (tear up the credit cards)and not living beyond our means. There is no one person that can protect us from ourselves.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The American people should also stick their hand back in their pocket and get a job. That's what we need, more people on the tax roll instead of waiting on handouts. Think about all the illegals coming over here to work because we Americans will not work that hard. Why bother when the government will take care of you.
And Obama's extended welfare program...AKA tax cuts...we cannot afford MORE WELFARE!

Posted by inocentbystandr (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is it that whenever someone of no color says they won't vote for Obama they are labeled as racists? Perhaps we don't want a president who hates his own country. Jesus people, the man won't even salute the flag or cover his heart during the Star Spangled Banner. He has accepted $250 million in campaign contributions from middle eastern countries. That should not even be legal. He is tied to terrorism both in country and abroad. His "financial advisors" are the ones responsible for the current economic crisis. He thinks American children should be forced to learn Spanish. He wants to ban all handguns.

I could go on and on but I don't want all the liberals to start crying and calling me names because I hurt their feelings and they know it is the truth.

One thing I do agree with Nobama on is this. I am a "typical white person clinging to my guns and religion".

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Happybunny, I was reading your earlier post regarding abortion. It seems apparent that most people don't seem to know just how dedicated to unfettered abortion Obama really is. This is one of the things that McCain failed to bring up in the debate and, as far as I know, hasn't really mentioned on the campaign trail.

Senator Obama has vowed to sign into law the Freedom of Choice Act if elected President. This is a bill he co-sponsored in 2007. In fact, he called it a "top priority." What the act basically does is overturn every limitation on abortion currently on the books, including the ban on partial birth abortion. This would allow a woman, at any point during her pregnancy, and for any reason whatsoever, to abort her baby. No restrictions.

So for example, when some woman decides at 37 weeks that she doesn't want her baby, even a perfectly healthy baby, she can decide to have an abortionist deliver the baby feet first up to its neck, puncture the babies skull with a surgical instrument and suck out the babies brains before deliverying the rest of the baby.

This is what Comrade Obama, as well as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid want. Isn't it great? Of course, from the infanticide candidate, I can't really say that I'm surprised.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Inocentbystandr, if that's how feel, then that's how you feel. Don't stop!

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The truth about Obama on abortion.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/15/wi...

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the truth according to Obama...now that's an oxymoron.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey time4change, your link doesn't mention the Freedom of Choice Act. Sorry, but Obama's support is part of the public record. Better luck next time.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is really funding Obama?...the American people a few dollars at a time, but millions of Americans. http://fightthesmears.com/articles/25/Fi...

No the oxymoron is happybunny's comments.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Time4change, why don't you try this link instead:

www.nrlc.org/FOCA/index.html

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know, hearing the paraphrased inaccurate comments the guys on the "right" make that purport to be accurate versions of Obama's positions, you guys should play with plastic bags more.

You are using your mouths to kill yourselves politically, and if Jesus is offended by lying I am afraid you are stressing your guarantee of an after-life. You may have nothing left to live for. He,he!!

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/7/pat...

Barack Obama pledging allegance to the flag.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is behind the smears? Oops this must be happybunny and kms peeps. http://fightthesmears.com/behind_the_sme...

Posted by inocentbystandr (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How are you proving a point by sending people to a pro-Obama site? That proves he pledged allegiance one time in front of a camera. I can send you to a site showing him in a turbin. Does that mean he IS a muslim? I can also show you sites of him not pledging when everyone else around him is. Your links are all to a fabricated site put up to draw support for him by hiding the truth. Are you that easily fooled?

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)

inocentbystandr is going for the "dimmest bulb" award, I think. And the competition is stiff.

I think bystandr's post above has got the most factual errors in a posting I ever saw here.

Aren't you afraid your children will make fun of you?

You better watch your mouth when President Obama takes office or he will chop you up into communion crackers and serve you to non-Christian devil worshippers at a forced nude prison Sunday school service for jailed people of "no color". he, he!

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, yeahuhuh, where am I lying? Please tell me specifically where I'm lying. Obama's position on this is a matter of public record. If you're gonna throw your full support behind this radical you have take all of him, including his most offensive and evil positions.

I think you are just proving points I've made in earlier posts. Most Obama supporters have no idea who this guy really is, what he believes, or what he wants to do. You prove it time and again.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do I think you cowards will do what you usually do when presented with the facts: go silent. It gets pretty hard to defend the indefensible, doesn't it?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Are you that easily fooled?

No, otherwise I would believe your comments.

Posted by inocentbystandr (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey duhuh, why the personal attacks. Can't handle the truth? You probably don't want to compare intelligence and education between the two of us. Your lack of intelligence is shown in the person you support and the lies that you have been convinced to believe.

Ron White was correct when he said "You can't fix stupid".

Talk about me all you want. You are not going to hurt my feelings. As for the time being, I have better and more important things to do than trying to lead the blind. Ya'll have fun.

GO McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((Time4change, quit rewording what I state on here to use as your advantage. I never said I had a 6 digit income, I said my education ALLOWS me the potential to earn this.))

I don't have any problem with you earning a 6 digit income...what I said is that I doubt you do. I also forgot to add that if you went to college for 7 years,,, maybe you should ask for a refund. LOL

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

7 years, bwahahaha, it didn't take.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Hey duhuh, why the personal attacks. Can't handle the truth?"

Well excuse me you toad, but it looks like personal attacks are about all you guys can muster -- and they are not accurate at that.

What I said about you is far more accurate than what you have said about Obama. Obama just ignores pigs who do that. I can respond.

Don't pretend you don't understand what I just said. Yes, you want to engage in baseless personal attacks on a candidate but then whine like a spoiled child when somebody rips your stupidity.

When there are no personal attacks I won't launch them.

But you guys don't have the sense to do anything BUT make up false positions ascribe them to others, then attack them.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

((In this day and age their is NO excuse for teen pregnancy, (unless raped or molested) and that also includes Ms. Palin's daughter.))

No offense, but I have to disagree here. Even the best birth control method is only 99% acurate, so there is always a 1% chance of becoming pregnant if you do that thingie that causes such. Abstinance is the only way to totally prevent pregnancy. And good luck widdat.

Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GObama/Biden '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barack the VOTE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'M WITH COLIN! PALIN IS SCARY. McCAIN HAS A FOUL MOUTH! OBAMA IS THE BEST CHOICE -- THE ONLY CHOICE!

When we start REJECTING the candidates that lie the most, the next ones will lie less. It is the only way to improve our country.

I did not support Obama early but he has convinced me he is better presidential material than we have seen in along time.

Posted by emp (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DrawSingPaint, if you don't stand for anything Obama stands for why would you vote for him? Is it only because he is black? Is it only because he is a Democrat? Please enlighten us.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

emp your paraphrase "don't stand for anything Obama stands for" is not quite correct.

Obama stands for a lot of things other than the ones listed.

Notice here how almost everyone who disses on Obama wants to paraphrase his positions into something he would not agree with?

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Has Condi endorsed anyone yet? She'll probably be next to endorse Senator Obama!!

My sign is in my yard!!

Obama '08

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Having held a little Pakistani/American baby and gazed into those eyes with motherly love, I can say without a doubt that a little muslim/christian child is just as precious as any other. Having held a little white/black baby and gazed into those eyes with motherly love, I can say without a doubt that a little white/black child is just as precious as any other. I love all people and hope for peace in all of our lands. The smears against Obama being muslim and therefore a terrorist are smears against all muslim people and also against persons of African descent and are wrong. Since I'm not so good with words I will post the link to a very good article that states it much better than my attempt.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080317/kl...

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a lot of reasons why I vote for him, Emp, and most of the posts on here tell why. Do I need to go through and type all of these posts for you? I don't want to vote for McCain. You made the statement the only reason a Black person would vote for Obama is because he is Black and that we are racist, and that we are liberal. If the Democratic nominee was a white man, I still wouldn't vote for McCain. Does that answer that for you? You see what a Republican has done for this country for the last eight years, and the issues that you listed about Obama exist. If MCain wins they still will exist. What do you have to say about the White people who will vote for Obama? Are they racist? What do you have to say about the Black people who are going to vote for McCain? Me fiance is going to vote for McCain, and he is Black. I respect his decision, and he respect mine. What do you have to say about that? Why did you say what you said? I responded to what you said, because you are wrong for that.

Posted by kmonii05 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obamayamama, I have read all of this foolishness you have spouted off throughout this thread! First of all, do you live in Ferriday? Were you raised there? Well, I WAS! If you are so concerned about how people in Ferriday are driving the vehicles they drive and live the way they live, maybe you should take the time out and ask one of them. My family still lives in Ferriday and are hard-working people. NO ONE and I reiterate...NO ONE in my family has ever been on welfare and I am a product of a single parent home. My mother is a college degreed professional, who has worked in this community for as long as I could remember. I also have a college degree from LSU in Biochemistry! I received an academic scholarship because I actually sat down in school and learned a thing or two. How dare you belittle people when you don't have a clue?

Yes, my relatives drive nice vehicles, but believe me, they don't work in Ferriday, Vidalia or Natchez for that matter, because there are no jobs there. They have legal jobs, since you seem to think that all (black) people are drug dealers and uneducated. They are truck drivers, they work on oil rigs, they are business owners. So, before you start spewing out your hatred-filled words and racists statements, get all of the facts! Remember all press is not GOOD press and not everything you read is NOT factual.

You can vote for whomever you wish. Teach and Yeahuhuh, regardless of what other's views are, we WILL vote for the BEST CHOICE!!!! Obama/Biden 2008!!!!

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just like I thought, the cowards scurried away (from the subject) without a word.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ah -- literacy. Like the sun shining in February. he,he!

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OBAMA/BIDEN . . . 2008!!!!! I believe we have 15 more days before we get the change we need -- I can't wait until this is all over.

I would like to say hello and send a SHOUT-OUT to all you wonderful, good-hearted, intelligent, and God-fearing Americans (my ND online friends) who hail from the Natchez and Miss-Lou area. I have truly missed conversing with you all. However, I see that we still have a lot of work to do (on ourselves and the world we live in). God bless!

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, welcome back, Ijohnson!

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kmbjd40 -- "So for example, when some woman decides at 37 weeks that she doesn't want her baby, even a perfectly healthy baby, she can decide to have an abortionist deliver the baby feet first up to its neck, puncture the babies skull with a surgical instrument and suck out the babies brains before deliverying the rest of the baby."

That's one, chump.

Sec 2 states - ...a woman's right to choose to terminate her pregnancy is absolute only prior to fetal viability, with the state permitted to ban abortion after fetal viability except when necessary to protect the life or health of a woman.

You guys don't yet realize that your dirty underwear is showing when you lie about your opponent's position in order to oppose them. That is something totally obvious about your spirit of truth telling. You are so eager to control other people that the truth means nothing to you. Creep.

Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, ((draw))!!!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey time, if all these babies are precious - and they certainly are, no argument from me on that one - why are you so pro-abortion? Every baby should have a chance to live and become what God intends them to be. Murderers on death row deserve to die. They have had their chance and made the choice.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Draws! Good to "hear" from you again! You are so right, we have all made up our minds for our own reasons by now, and this whole comments thing gets a little tiresome. I too will be glad when it is all over, and the man God wants in the White House will be there. It won't be the first time I disagreed with HIM! LOL

Posted by iameubu (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"First we're going to cut it off, then we're going to kill it."

Silly me. I thought he was referring to the Iraqi Arny.
Must have been talking about our Federal Republic.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"It is fast approaching the point where I don't want to elect anyone stupid enough to want the job."
Erma Bombeck

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeahuhuh, I'm glad you finally found the courage to respond. The critical language there is "to protect the life or health of a woman." You see, yeahuhuh, there isn't a circumstance where a womans life is threatened where a partial-birth abortion is an appropriate procedure. They attempt to define the life or health of a woman as anything they want it to be, like depression or say, "I have a headache."

There is NO condition in which a woman's health is actually threatened in which this procedure would be appropriate. That's the point.

The procedure I described is a partial-birth abortion, something all the libs fully support, including the Great One, Comrade Obama.

You might not want to believe that your candidate would support such a horrendous, and wholly indefensible, procedure. But as a highly trained medical professional, I know what I'm talking about.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not pro-abortion at all and I would never have one. I am pro-choice simply because I wouldn't want abortion to become illegal, as I don't believe that having an abortion is an easy decision for a female. I wouldn't want a child to have to go thru child birth if it was a risk to her life. A 10 year old and even younger can get pregnant and it can be risky health wise. It is most unfortunate that some are placed in that situation and most often by a relative. Rape and incest is a terrible shame-crime. Why should an innocent 10 year old have to endure more shame and torture by going through a pregnancy that she doesn't understand? I'm sorry that you don't understand me, because I think we would have been good friends had we ever met in person. Of course you would have had to get over the fact that my family is mixed. So, how do you feel about Eskimos? Any predjudice there? lol

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's a good one OGD.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

but km, your candidate supports dropping bombs on living breathing children...so, how do you support ending innocent life in war? Is a fetus more important to you than an Iraqi baby or child already born? What about a pregnant Iraqi woman? When you drop a bomb on her, you abort not only the fetus but the mother as well. So I'm just having a little bit of a problem understanding the Republican stance against abortion. I hope you will forgive me for that.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

km would you abort a fetus if the mother was an innocent 10 year old who had been raped by her older brother?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pretending that incest and rape doesn't happen is not solving the problems in this country. It happens to children everyday and it's done by people they trust. Why should those innocent children be forced to suffer further shame of that violent act against them? Only when you teach the rapist that he has done wrong and you can stop that from happening is when I will agree that all abortions should be illegal. A 10 year old girl is an innocent life too. Why do you want to punish her?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I read about these young girls who are forced into arranged marriages in other countries. They are on the most part raped by their new husband as they don't have any choice in the matter. Sometimes they can't carry the baby full term, or if they do, it damages them or kills them in the process. If they live, their husband no longer finds them wife material, as they can no longer reproduce, so he leaves them at the hospital. They can't go back to their family, so they are just like orphans with no hope to ever marry since they have been damaged.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just feel sorry for people, especially young girls and women and I can't support your wars that kill not only innocent people, but whole families and unborn babies. Maybe you get a few bad guys with your bombs, I don't know, but on the most part, I think you just make more terrorist. Anyways after 9/11 you started acting just like terrorist yourselves.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My candidate supports dropping bombs on living, breathing children? Or pregnant women? Are you really this obtuse? That is an outrageous and highly offensive statement. Please show me the evidence for your statement if your going to make that type of charge.

As to your 10 year old scenario, it would be exceedingly rare for any 10 year old to have reached a developmental level where they would be capable of becoming pregnant, much less carrying a baby to term if she were to become pregnant. It would be rarer still for her to be impregnated by her older brother. So your hypothetical situation is nonsense. But sense you put the question to me, I'll answer you.

A pregancy in a child this age would be a clear threat to her health and life because of her stage of development. Therefore, a termination would be necessary and appropriate in such a circumstance.

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

time4change...that charge you make, "...your candidate supports dropping bombs on living breathing children..." is so bogus it stinks on ice.

Conservatives are compassionate, not blood thirsty killers as you liberals like to portray us. No one in the US military intentionally drops bombs on innocent people, particularly women and children. Smart bombs and other intelligent munitions were, in fact, developed to minimize collateral damage.

We are God fearing people who want all his children to live and prosper in liberty. We want the deserving needy to get help through charity and faith-base initiative rather than have it siphoned off by bureaucracy. We don't want either the 10 year old or the baby (remember, it is a baby not just a fetus) to suffer, that's what adoption is for.

It is a despicable assault on good, kind-hearted people and even worse on our troops that you should say such a thing. You know it, I know it and everyone else does too...so stop lying simply for political gain, because that is what you're doing...and you won't be forgiven for that, unless there is a sense of sincere remorse evident in your apology...which I hope for your sake is swiftly forthcoming.

Posted by iameubu (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Yet many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters." TS

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Idefinitelymight...thanks for your compliment, but as an observation...you called down redusmfan when he got a little too enthusiastic, as you should have...I have called him and others down before on both sides when I felt like they had crossed the line from public discourse to hate, dishonesty and the like...the observation?...I've never seen you or any other liberal do the same to someone on your side for going over the line...why?

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sammohon, concerning -> "I've never seen you or any other liberal do the same to someone on your side for going over the line...why?"

Perhaps because they see no line? :(

Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD...I've noticed that liberals tend to be myopic...they also hear well, but refuse to listen, especially to common sense...they prefer to remain gullible...LOL.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sam, OGD is right, there is no line, there is no boundary. There is nothing they can do or say that goes too far because in their minds they are victims and they see in Obama their salvation. Their chance to stick it those they peceive as their oppressors, i.e. the Republicans and Conservatives. It doesn't matter how often you show the weakness of their sides arguments. They have made an emotional decision in this election, and their is no swaying someone like that. And their sense of self-righteousness, to their mind, means they can criticize, demonize and attack in a very personal way anyone that holds a different viewpoint.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

time, my son is engaged to a girl from the Phillipines. Does that count with you? And yes we accept and love her. I just don't know why you assume anything like that would bother me? Oh, I forgot, anyone not voting for Obama is racist, right?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

km you are obviously not a highly medically trained person. You are full of yourself. I began my period when I was 10 years old and I could have become pregnant when I was attacked by a family member...if I hadn't been crafty enough to fight him off. But the youngest pregnancy ever recorded was in a 5 year old. Some girls reach puberty at an early age, even if the norm is more like 12. Sibling can reproduce, even in the bible siblings married; Abraham married his sister Sarah and in old age she gave birth to a child. Cleopatra married her half brother. And don't forget that Lott, after being rescued from the destruction of Sodom & Gomorrah, fathered his own daughter's children. How do you think the world became populated from 2 created beings?

But, I'm glad you got my point as I don't think abortion should be performed as a birth control and should be strickly regulated, but there are times when the mother's life may be at risk and at that time abortion should not be illegal. There is also the possibility that should abortion be made illegal, then women would have to prove they didn't have one should they have a natural miscarriage

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sam I've read articles by medical doctors having seved in Iraq and they have said that they mostly treat injured women and children. I don't care how smart your bombs are they still can't tell an innocent person from a terrorist and innocent people are killed by them in every war. I did not say that any soldier dropped bombs intentionally on innocent beings. The soldier has no choice, he only follows orders in what he does during a war. You are welcome to arrest me as a terrorist and shoot me in the head for treason if my believing that your war is wrong, because I have no desire to live among people like you who support the destruction of those innocent lives in your wars. I would also have no problem leaving this country if you would send me a ticket. Thank you very much for notin. I will not appologize to you for my anti-war opinion, but the Bush administration has destroyed this country, Afghanistan and Iraq. I tell God that often, so I will have no problem discussing that with him face to face. I also ask him to forgive Bush and all of you and to have mercy on your souls.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

freedom that is not why I asked. It was some of your other comments. Congratulations on the addition to your family. May peace be upon you and yours.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

time4change, concerning -> "the Bush administration has destroyed this country".

Would you give any of that blame to Colin Powell also?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, but he was only following orders just like a good soldier. At least he had the sense to get out when he did.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I also believe that Powell regrets having to follow those orders OGD. Just like any sin or mistake, once realized is when one begins to change and ask forgiveness.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sammo I am not a political person, really. I like Obama and he seems to me the better candidate. Having had the relationships that I've had I can relate to Obama and see that he can be who he is without having to have become muslim. You will never understand me and I will never understand you. So be it. I'm almost sure we ran across one another recently...at least I had the very strong thought that--that was you. We should be able to get along on this comment board, I mean Maria and Ahnold do and they live together, which we will never have to do.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, I forgot, anyone not voting for Obama is racist, right?

No.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Time4change, my point was that it is exceedingly rare for a girl to start menstruating at the age of 10. And the chances of a 10 year old that started menstruating at such an early age AND being raped by their own brother AND then becoming pregnant (I wasn't implying that one sibling couldn't impregnate another) was rarer still (if you started your cycle at such an early age, you are an exception to the rule). Which made that hypothetical argument a bit ridiculous if you're using it as a basis for support of abortion. In light of that, I answered the question anyway.

As to my medical training, I am about as highly trained medically as one can get, though you are certainly not the first person to accuse me of being full of myself. :)

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

time4change, Thanks for your opinion on that. I enjoy meeting folks here who can keep their head while discussing political differences. Best wishes to you. :)

Posted by southernwoman (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I vote for time4change.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

time, suppose you go back through all my posts and show me where I have ever said I dislike or look down on black people or those of any other race. Remember it has to be put in context of what I was writing about, and I have no patience with stupidity, ignorance, and free-loaders of any race.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's ok to be full of yourself km, as long as you love others as much as you love yourself...

Yes, I am the exception to the rule, unfortunately, and certainly not by choice. I knew another girl who reached puberty in 2nd grade. Only after having given great thought to my misfortune, many years later, was I able to come to the conclusion that abortion should not be totally illegal. Although there was a period of time in my life that I believed that it should be. But how can I allow my belief that abortion is murder to subject an innocent child who has been brutally raped to go through child birth? And if I did, and the child died along with the fetus, would I be responsible for both lives if I supported abortion being made illegal? If I controlled things, men would never rape a child or a woman, but they do, and I rest my case. Women shouldn't give in to their lust for young boys either...the news if full of that too. It's really disgusting.

southernwoman, wild horses couldn't get me to run for public office, lol, but thank ya, thank ya very much. I would consider volunteering to help someone else run, however. Most of my employment is and has been volunteer work, so I can't really relate to the tax increase fears of most Republicans. I have worked jobs that paid a salary and I do file income tax, as I feel that taxes are necessary while some don't believe them to be legal at all, lol...go figure.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on October 20, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

freedom I will do that tomorrow. Goodnite. Have a good one. Maybe I have you confused with someone else. lol.

Posted by America (anonymous) on November 2, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you bunch of racist freaks.

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