Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 12:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Simonton/If you were to read the so-called Health Bill, which I doubt very seriously, because there are several versions in both the House and in the Senate, you can see that overall the bill is typical Liberal Jargon which would destroy the plight of medicine and doctors. Please go talk to some doctors in Natchez and other areas to get their feelings before you jump to any opinions, as you have already done?! There are so many things that could be done administratively that would save billions of dollars, but Owhampy and his "tribe" of Liberals want to redistribute everything, Can YOU NOT see this? In Congress this year and in testimony from many people from Canada and in England, they have testified to the facts that the Universal Health Care is Bogus and not worth a RED CENT! Call your Congressman and get the facts! In your case of working with Grand Gulf, you do have some Legal Redress and also all of your facts in your case are not present in your case and I'm sure that these are of a Private a Nature? The readers of your opinion do not know al the facts of your case! Also, the Health Plan in Australia is not the same as the plans in Congress today, the ones in Congress are modeled after Canada's and in England! Contact local Doctors and a good Attorney in your Medical Case. Another thing is that the Republican Party is not holding up ANY information on any Bill, You are getting the WRONG info from someone who does not know and does not want to know! You need to get the facts and contact your Office of the two Mississippi U. S. Senator's and your Congressman for Natchez and Adams County! And a good Attorney that will fight for you/there are plenty out there that will take your case from what you have said in your comments? Good Luck! Also, keep in touch with me about your situation?

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well here comes your friend crackbaby with some "LOGIC". Make sure you're sitting down, cause your head might explode!

I guess we can all sympathize with Gene and the situation he finds himself in concerning himself and his families health care. I have commented on this before, I suppose it flew by peoples heads so fast it wasn't even noticed, so please read and understand where crackbaby is coming from.

How has the AVAILABILITY of health care for unemployed working people such as Gene in this country become freakin ROCKET SCIENCE? The states have the foresight to establish an unemployment insurance program, to provide income for working families involved in lay offs or between job situations. Yet these same states somehow can't establish a program, where within a temporarily unemployed worker and his family can receive health coverage such as state funded Medi-caid while faced with the same hardships. Could it actually be as simple as our unemployment benefits? WHY THE HECK NOT? Last time we working people looked at our paycheck stubs, I bet state taxes were withheld! I would like to challenge Gene, and anyone else reading this comment. Instead of calling your state representatives and saying who you will not vote for. Tell them to read this comment and get to work with our tax money, making this the first state to make real steps toward fixing the health care crisis for the working tax payers. This could be so easy " a cave man could do it". Just kiddin, you know crackbaby likes to leave you with a SMILE! lol

Posted by natchez1 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 2:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Both Rushingjr and Gene make valid points (maybe even crackbaby).
First let me say that that Universal Heath Care is not the train wreck that the Republican's and talk radio hosts portray it as.
Health Care in the US is great if you can afford it (or work for a company that can afford to provide it). The problem is that its costs and premiums for insurance are skyrocketing.
Obama is also wrong that soon no-one will be able to afford it - because if it got that expensive everyone would be forced to lower their prices.
The US will never pass Universal Health Care - the doctors are too rich and won't allow the government to cap their salary at say $200,000. The insurance companies also make lots of money on medical insurance (And as John Grissum wrote - "We deny all claims until you sue us" is not too far from the truth). The millions of people who work for Hospitals and Doctors filling out claim forms and insurance are against it (Universal Heath Care, you walk in you get service - no charge - no papers to file, suddenly millions more without a job).
Health care is a mess in the USA if you are middle class, have health problems or self employed. The middle class & Self employed are too wealthy for Medicade yet often too poor or too ill to afford insurance.

It is not right that someone who has worked hard for years -paid insurance can lose everything because of even a minor illness or accident. How can you find motivation to recover if your medical bills are so huge you could never repay them.
I don't know how to fix this - I doubt the answer is Obama Care, I can't see how a extra tax on the people who earn a million dollars a year or more could pay for some form of universal coverage. I suspect/fear that somehow small business owners and the middle class will get told "Congratulations you're Rich - pay up"
The Republicans had 8 years and did not even try to solve this.
If a health care bill is passed it is likely to be so full of pork, so watered down, that it will be hugely expensive with limited benefits.

Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rushing- You are totally ingoring the current problem, middle class american need health insurance. You are so busy pointing political fingers, you totally miss the fact the Mr Simonton is an American in help, and there are many others like him. The last administartion made no efforts to secure affordable health care for the middle class. Instead we spent hundreds of billions of dollars stabilizing the middle east instead of stabilizing America with some health care. Where are you priorities?

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gene I can empathize with you completely. I'm in the same boat. The repubs had 8 years to do something and did nothing. Reagan did more to hurt working people than folks realize,or will admit. Corporations are in charge of the republican party. Sooooooo the working people who make America roll do not count for much.
I vote very selfishly I must admit. I have always voted for the person who will help me as a working man, my old folks, and my young folks. So far I've never voted for a republican. I am 100% against abortions and I think that if a person is able to work he gets nothing except what he works for.
When corporate MBAs at the HMOs took over the medical field; started siphoning off money; telling sick and injured people what a doctor was allowed to do for them; the greedy insurance companies started raping folks; the physicians started doing more paperwork than healing.
Gene I'll put you on my prayer list. I don't know anything about what is in the health care proposals. I do know that working class folks cannot afford $700-$1,000/month for health insurance.

Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One point isn't being made by anyone. If there were an affordable health insurance plan more workers would retire at 62. With high unemployment any opportunity to open jobs should not be overlooked.

Posted by Idefinitelymight (Tom Scarborough) on July 31, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Paul Krugman's column in today's NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/opinio...

Posted by muleman (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When has the government every got involved in any business and made it better or simpler? Sure the Australia plan sounds great. But I am sure healthcare in Australia can not compare to the US in availability or quality. Please, go to ihatethemedia.com/republican and take a look at the chart for Obamacare. Unreal, it looks like a Texas road map.
Changes do need to made but, I doubt the Democrat or the Republican bureauacrats have the answer. There is a great example of government run healthcare right here in Natchez. Natchez Regional Medical Center, need I say more.

Posted by muleman (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As for the Paul Krugman opinion column in the New York Times. Krugman is an author and an academic. I did not see where he had ever earned a dollar in the real world or his healthcare administration credentials. We don't want to get our opinions from a liberal northeastern journalist/academic.

Posted by muleman (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 8:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The United States of America has the greatest healthcare in the world but, it is not perfect and never will be. Anything done by man will always have problems. No matter what you do some people are going to fall through the cracks. Mr. Simonton finds himself in a difficult situation and but for the grace of God go one of us and I don't think Obamacare is the answer. If you think Obama is trying to help the middleclass, I got ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya'.

Posted by Oracle (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Typical Democrat point of view, "whats in it for me".

If Mr. Simonton had read only part of the Pelosi/O'Bama Health Reform and the cost thereof, there is no way he would be in favor of it and still call himself a responsible American looking out for the best interest of his children/grand children, who will pay the price.

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The same people who are pushing for this irresponsible act are the same ones who support Obama and all of his failings. All of you should be very scared. Mr. Simonton, if you really think it's better somewhere else, then I suggest you move to Australia with your friends. Can you people not see this is just more of the same? Those of us who work, pay taxes, insurance, etc., will always do our part. Those who are takers, will always be takers. There is nothing SIMPLE about this plan. Wait until you have to schedule an appointment that may take you months to see a Dr. Then what Dr.? Who knows? That's the governments call. I fully suspect Mr. Simonton has not revealed all of the facts of his problem; just the ones that make his case sound better. Just like Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democrats trying to push this through. BE VERY AWARE!!!

Posted by jlmorris (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For what it is worth? Kind of scary!

http://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attach...

Posted by jlmorris (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here is the bill:

http://www.capwiz.com/afanet/webreturn/?...

Posted by NatchezEnema (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gene I feel your pain, I have back problems also. I will be the first to say that health care needs reform. The health care Obama wants is not the way to go. I have very good insurance that My business and I pay for. AND I LIKE IT. It costs a lot, But I like my doctors and don't want anybody to fool with it. There already are many forms of goverment run heath care in the USA. Medicare, medicaid and so on. I invite you to call one of the leaders of the Choctaw, Cherokee, or any of the many other tribes in the midwest and ask them how good their GOVERMENT RUN HEALTH CARE programs are. Disgarace! They are in shambles. Ask a veteren how long does it take to get care or how good the Veterens goverment run hospitals are. Obama spews 40 + million dont have health ins. About 10+ mil of those are illegals, about another 15 mil can afford it but just don't buy it 6-7 mil are between jobs (like you) and are temply out of it and the rest don't give a damn. These numbers come from the U.S census board. People slam the insurance companies. It is one of the most heavly goverment regulated business in the country. Some states have goverment run health care. California is one of them and it is one of the main reasons the state is broke. Tennessee is another. Call the office of these govenrors and ask them what goverment run heath care has done to their states. Almost 60% of all taxes paid in this country are paid by the top 1% rich tax payers. Never anywhere anytime on this earth can someone not pay anything in taxes and get everything they want except in this country. If you are left or right the problem is read for yourself and think and you will see this bill is a disaster in the makeing. the democrats have the majority in both houses and they are haveing problems with this voodoo bill, the reason? 85% of Americans don't want this crap called Obama care. Why do you think they are trying to force it through so quickly? How or why has it become if you are rich or make a profit "you are they bad guy". I love history, almost everthing except for a few things the goverment gets into turn to crap with waste and mismanagement (look at Natchez goverment). Abraham Lincoln once said " you can't bring up the poor by tearing down the rich" and he was so right. Get your computer out and do some research, you can get insurance, research the fine print on this bill for yourself as it changes every day. Get your head out of the left or right wing blogs, and last but not least, Don't ask me to pay for your insurance. Nobody is leaving this country to go to Canada, Australia, or Europe to get health care. We have the best in the world, and it is a shame some people want to tear it down.

Posted by reader (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.heritage.org//Press/Commentar...

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THANK YOU "NATCHEZENEMA"... Great post.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

After going through 5 years of every 6 month blood work post cancer and it being covered by insurance, June bill for exact same blood work is over $300.00 on Cobra. Simple as that. Great letter and would welcome pro-health care letter from a sen. Really tired of the spin and overt lies that are being propagated. And further more I am sick and tired of "some" calling our President names in these comments, this has been going on for over a year. McCain lost, and it is very obvious you can't move forward and just as obvious you have NO respect, it isn't cute, funny or even the least bit productive. You may have a vaid point but I skip over reading the comments because the same people over and over show their contempt for our election process, and the choice of the majority of the voters. If the Health care reform is not passed in some way who is suffering, certainly not the Sen. Health reform has been in the works for 60+ years and defeated by big business, pharmaceutal companies and insurance companies.

Posted by Oracle (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Those of you that have 3-4 days of spare time should read HR 3200, "the Healthcare Bill" its on the net. Don't be embarrassed if you haven't, your representatives haven't either.

If passed as is, the Mr. Simonton's of this country may not like waiting six months for a doctors appointment only to be told "you cannot have this operation due to your age. this money is set aside for younger people with more productive years ahead". this decision will be made by "the government committee".

One of O'Bama's famous moronic statements (there are many) was "older people are going to have to learn to live with pain, they can't expect the government to pay for everything".

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR GENE!!!!!!

Posted by Oracle (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way. Did I forget to mention Congress and the President are EXCLUDED from this Health Care Bill?

Not good enough for THEM,,,just US.

Posted by bluesdad61 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As a health care professional from Natchez, I have to put my two cents worth in this fray. I work in a Level 3 newborn intensive care. The census of the ICU tells the tale. 22 babies in the nursery - almost half were already taken away from the parents by the state, over half were drug babies, approximately a third was the third to ninth child of a mother either without insurance or had some form of government assistance. The care these babies receive is the same no matter what socioeconomic demographic. I do this job because these patients are the most innocent and did not ask to be here. But the COSTS of taking care of these patients are astronomical, and our technology has advanced so we are now able to save premature babies that would have had no chance 10 years ago. Most government insurances, such as Medicaid, does not cover the COSTS of the care we provide. For instance using basic figures, a drug used in premature babies COSTS the hospital $1000 to help the babies lungs. Medicaid does not reimburse for this drug. We have to resuscitate premature babies we KNOW will not have a good outcome. Why? Because of the liability. No where in the current health reform plan is tort reform addressed.

I do not have a problem helping those who help themselves, but my problem is paying for unnecessary pregnancies, families who know they cannot afford 3 or more children, but continue having them. Pregnancy is a preventable condition, not a disease. Birth control is another "free" service available, but is not utilized.

In closing, I always have to get on my other soap box, health care providers' salaries. Of course there are physicians making a half of million to a million dollars a year. But they are human, and one mistake can mean life or death, for the patient or themselves. I knew a neurosurgeon who died with AIDS from a needle stick. Frivolous lawsuits without merit costs physicians thousands each year. It is usually easier to settle than to defend themselves. After so many lawsuits, whether they are justified or not, the physician's malpractice insurance premiums rise. It says a lot about our society to hear people say doctors make too much, yet Ryan Seachrist just got a $45 million dollar deal to host American Idol. If American Idol was cancelled tomorrow, what impact would that have on our lives? NONE! Without our physicians, health care providers, hospitals, etc, what impact would that have on our lives? CHAOS!

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 10:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I told you so! You, the Liberal democRATS out there/ YOU wanted change and the Owhampy Tribe is giving it to you! You all can seat back and blame anything/ some of you still can't see the Forests for the trees in front of you! Owhampy has put us in debt more than Bush ever thought about? Just remember, if we have NO Doctors and Drug companies doing Research and Development , you can go to Canada, England and Australia and get your drugs? You can also see your foreign Doctors also! If you want care, etc. the World had better be stabilized or you want be able to survive? And the Government should not "meddle" in Private Business, either! Yes, my priorities are straight , maybe some of you need to think and become Conservative!

Posted by onarant (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The current health-care bills are nothing but a con being perpetrated on America. As it stands today, it is a back door for the "Community Activist in Chief" to gain more power over the people and turn us into a socialist country and then spew his social justice agenda upon us. It is not the idea of health-care reform that is the problem, it is the way Obama and his band of thugs want to administer it.
Americans can agree that reform is needed, but keep the government out of it. They cannot even run the "cash for clunkers" program so I know I do not want them involved with my health care.
The consensus is that the number one measure that will reduce cost is tort reform and neither party wants to address the problem. Start here and go forward instead of destroying the best care in the world.
I do not have any faith that any of the worthless politicians in Washington can reform and administer health care and make it better or cheaper.

Check this video of Krugman asking Canadians if they like their health care system.
http://www.thefoxnation.com/media/2009/0...

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 11:37 a.m.

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Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well 'LOVESNATCHEZ", AGAIN YOU ARE SOOOOO WRONG. I AM NOT BLACK, I AM WHITE AND I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT....TRY AGAIN. YOUR CONTINUED DISRESPECT SHOWS WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE.....IF THE SHOE FITS WHITE AND RACIEST WEAR IT PROUDLY BECAUSE YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY, THANKFULLY

Posted by LOVESNATCHEZ (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THEN YOU ARE ONE CONFUSED REPUBLICAN "2008"...

Posted by chuckydaone (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Asking doctors about healthcare insurance is tantamount to asking the fox about the henhouse. As our brothers keeper, we should want all people to have access to healthcare regardless of their station in life. If the 'poor" are to "be with us always", then we must shoulder part of their load. We say it on Sunday mornings between 11:00 a.m. and noon but leave it in the building as we exit. When I say poor, I'm including those who work everyday on jobs which don't pay benifits, for wages that won't support insurance and food, clothing, and shelter. Just enough to keep them poor. A recent two day stay in the hospital generated a bill in excess of $38,000.00. My insurance paid all but about $2,300.00. I paid that gladly and am thankful for having insurance. I asked a friend what people without insurance do. The answer is they die unnecessarily. We need healthcare for everyone, not just the wealthy and the fortunate.

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW! Read some of these comments, blame, blame, stupid, stupid, your fault, his fault, black, white, zebra, etc, etc..... Lord is there any wonder fixing problems within society can seem like banging your head against a tree. Read the second comment on this page. Take a deep breath and a break from the blame game, and realize your reading what could be the first step our state could take, towards helping unemployed WORKING families. But then again we would have to rise up to a caveman's mental level!!!!!!

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chuckydaone: Well thought out response and a true christian attitude.

"Lovesnatchez" you are wrong once again, being a registered voter for 40 years I have never been a Republican. But I am a business owner who hires locally and pays taxes. I can also respect differences of opinion when stated without malice, scare tactics, and fear mongering. As an American first and foremost I read and research the pro’s and con’s of an issue before making up my mind. As Americans we have the right to “agree to disagree” one would hope civilly.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2008, I have to agree with LovesNatchez. You are a very confused person if you think Obama is there for you. Time will tell if he can not be booted out before the truth is found outfirst. All who voted for this person has put an atheiest, a liar, a racist, a sick, power hungry baby killer in the greatest office in America. This person is nothing but a criminal. A leader of thugs that terrorize Americans if they don't do things his way. Who at one time thought they could lead in this way? Several people and all of them came to a no-good end, just as this person will. Only 6 mos in office and the public is calling for impeachment. Why do you think that is? The majority did NOT vote for this person. He is in the White House only through farce, a great lie, and in time it will be known. And when it does come to light, how proud will you be of your so-called president? I thank God every day we have the best watch dogs watcing him and his thugs and will get him out of there before he destroys America completely.
I'm neither Rep or Dem. When I go to vote, I vote American. I vote for what is best for America. I vote now that Obama has got to be stopped.

Posted by chuckydaone (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a serious issue which requires healthy debate in order for an informed decision to follow. The tragedy is having so many who don't know how to disagree without being disagreeable. I once spoke to a lawyer who told me that when the facts are on your side you argue the facts, when the law is on your side you argue the law, when neither is on your side you muddy the water. We have a lot of people on this post who are muddying the water.

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey chuckydaone, kinda frustrating HUH? Putting ideas forward for discussion that might lead towards solutions? Well that would just be to civil and logical!!!! Sure didn't take long for the waters to muddy up concerning this topic, huh? Did you read the second comment concerning the lack of health care coverage and what would be your thoughts concerning such. I'm asking you, as you seem to be someone who would row the boat with the purpose of going somewhere, not just to muddy the river! lol

Posted by Idefinitelymight (Tom Scarborough) on July 31, 2009 at 5:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well played, unclered.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on July 31, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jl, I like those parts about the government having real time access to all individual bank accounts and the power to mandate counsel and instruction for wills and power of attorney. Those parts about the government being able to order end of life care is pretty neat too. I'm looking forward to that, having some liberal social worker from New York who doesn't believe in God sitting at my ward-room bedside explaining to me what end of life plans the government has made for me. I'm sure that will add a few days to my life. It will be such a relief knowing that the government has given another social worker power of attorney to handle my estate so it can be split up among the collective, thus relieving any surviving family members of the burden.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well I am one that is glad this many folks around here have put two plus two together and realized that the healthcare sysytem we have now -- IS THE ONE THE REPUBLICANS GAVE US -- as their best effort. I chuckle at the musing of those dumb enough to have already forgotten that -- or who want to pretend there is no other way.

As a health care family let me say I think much of the health care industry actually makes too much money. But as long as health care's expense is held over our heads we MUST fuel the cycle and participate. We need some relief.

Folks should relax and realize -- especially the ones who wag about liberals not having read the bills (dummies who make that accusation can't PRETEND they have either) -- we have someone in Washington now who is at least trying to fix something that is definitiely broken by world standards. It will take a while.

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey unclered, Are you actually implying your participation, concerning this article, has been"DISCUSSION"? Most of your comments are not in the realm of this topic. Only degradation for anyone not in lock step with your liberal ideology. Is your hate so deep and your intellect so shallow, that it wont allow you to entertain the thought of discussing possible solutions for uninsured Americans, other than a total Federal Government Bureaucracy. I wasn't going to address you, but I felt it only fair to challenge you to discuss, instead of disgust! lol

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey me friend yeahuhuh, glad to see you weighing in on the topic. Would you agree that some of the first steps toward health coverage for those out of work, could start at the State's level. Read the second comment on this page and give me a shout! lol

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"ON GAURD" my friend unclered. My feeble mind must acknowledge your accuracy in being in line with this thread of disgusting post. Once I read Gene's article, heavy with a litany of the blame game, I feared where the comments would be headed. If you will notice, early in the comment phase. I tried to interject some ideas for State's coming forward to help with the uninsured problem. No luck with the comments aiming at possible solutions. Rather, just as you acknowledged RANT'S, RANT'S AND MORE RANT'S. As you say my friend, stupid is as stupid does!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "TOO SHAY" lol

Posted by notabigot (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crackbaby, I agree with your idea, but the would be way too easy. I actually tried to read that bill, and it is going to take a lot longer than a few days to understand it. It's not like you can sit down and read it straight through. There are exceptions made to provisions that have to be read to understand, and that information is somewhere else in the bill, or in another bill altogether. It's a lot of research and note taking. So far, I have more questions than answers. I think I may actually be dumb enough that I need someone to go over it with me line by line. Some reasonable, unbiased person needs to teach a class.

Posted by crackbaby (anonymous) on July 31, 2009 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey my friend notabigot, don't consider yourself dumb because you don't understand "ROCKET SCIENCE". Many lawmakers will be voting for this with no more grasp of its contents, than you are able to consume. The fast track rhetoric should cease from both sides, solid justifiable changes in the system should be the issue. But like we agree, that might be too easy!!!! lol

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on August 1, 2009 at 12:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So you Obamaniacs think this health care plan is going to stick it to the greedy insurance companies? They are just hollering "don't throw me in the brair patch".

Right now our government needs 13 trillion dollars just to be broke. This will add another trillion right off the bat. Where is Obama going to get this money from? He is going to borrow it from the banks who own the insurance companies. They will still get their profit, but now they won't have to do any work for it. All the government collected premiums will be used for will be to pay a portion of the interest, the rest of the interest will be paid by taking out new loans that will consume an ever larger portion of the taxes collected to pay for this Universal Health Fraud.

Bankers love socialist sheep like you people. You are very easy to fleece, you run bleating into the pen and once shorn sit quietly on your haunches offering up your necks to the knife.

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, the Liberal "Roaches" have come out of the woodwork with the last several postings //I don't mean Enk or "Crackbaby"! Everybody needs to gear up for the fight to defeat this so-called "Universal Health Care"! The subject legislation passed the House Committee of Energy and Commerce late last tonight by a score of 31 to 28!

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 5:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

unclered, with your keen interest in the intelligence of southern Republicans, I wonder if you've noticed that southern Democrats believe that the moon landings were a hoax, that Africa is a country (not a continent) and that Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat?

:)

Posted by thetinman (Keith Reynolds) on August 1, 2009 at 6:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I thank GOD the Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST most important!!! With all this mess about universal health care, I believe there needs to be something done about medical in this nation. Universal health care is NOT the way to do it!

As a worthless comp injured worker, I was fired while on light duty, my former employer has in my paperwork, "Voluntarily Quite". Go Figure. At that point in my life, this was the beginning of the nightmare. Out of a job, No insurance, No money, no way to make any money, all because of a honest work related injury.

Hear recently, I began to really pay attention to the Book of Proverbs. Great wisdom for believers and non believers alike.
WE need to pray for our leaders. I know I do. I don't agree with the current administration and never will, but I pray they see the light of GOD in there decisions. I know from many areas in the BIBLE, Socialism is not GODLY!!!

If reading the Bible correctly, the government of the anti-christ, will be of socialistic nature. Depend on me, the government, I will take care of you. Depend on JESUS CHRIST. Pray to him. Ask for Wisdom!!! GODLY wisdom, His understanding not your own. I guarantee, when many see what he tells you, The Truth will set you free, if you receive it!!!

JESUS CHRIST is coming for his Bride. Look towards the heavens and rejoice!!!

GOD Bless all the world

Posted by fraidoclowns (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The ravings of a lunatic, for sure.

Posted by kmbjd40 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, as the polls plummet, as the agenda crashes and burns...

As someone who understands the utter vacuousness, the inherent stupidity, the total disregard for reality, and the blatant anti-Americanism that is liberalism, I was understandably alarmed by the election of an unqualified, overzealous, arrogant, left-wing radical as President of the United States. But I should have realized what a gift Barack Obama really is. He is the best thing that could ever happen to the conservative movement, as liberal nut-bags always are.

The American people have incredibly short memories. The last time liberals ran the show, and the American people got a taste of what those people really represent, there was a political massacre. I'm speaking, of course, about the 1994 mid-term elections.

And here we are again. Except this time we have liberalism on steroids in the person of Barack Obama. So I suspect the carnage will be exponentially worse for the Dems and libs in 2010.

Oh, how I can't wait for the day after next years mid-terms to read the posts on this site. All you libs wringing your hands and wondering how it all went wrong. All of you so despondent because your socialist-utopian dream never materialized. How Obama's attempt to turn us into Cuba failed despite such large majorities in Congress. And then to watch Obama limp toward defeat in 2012...

I guess you libs will never learn that Americans are a freedom-loving people, who always reject the tyranny offered up by libs. But if history is any guide, I guess there will always be those out there who want to subjugate themselves to government in spite of the fact that government destroys nearly everything it touches.

Posted by onarant (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, The people who support this do not care about the tax burden, they just have the "give me" mentality and think we can just pass it on to the wealthy.
They have no clue as to the overall impact this kind of policy will have on jobs and the economy or future ramifications.
Neither do they realize that this bill is being guided and worded by lobbyists representing the drug, insurance companies, unions and other outside interest. AARP cut a deal to with the administration for their support and they are paying a hefty price for it now as memberships are being canceled.
All these people that think this bill is going to strike a blow to insurance and drug companies or is the answer to better health care needs to think again.
This is not the time to have the attitude that "let's do something, even if it is wrong" as you point out.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Healthcare reform questions and answers from AARP

Why is AARP not standing up for seniors when Obama says he will cut Medicare to help pay for health care?

The proposed changes to Medicare will help to get fraud, waste and abuse out of the system and create payment incentives to reward doctors and hospitals for the quality, rather than the quantity, of care they provide. They will not cut the benefits our members rely on in the traditional Medicare program, but will help to keep it affordable to make sure you get the care you need.

Isn’t this socialized medicine?

No. In socialized medicine the government directly owns the hospitals and directly employs the doctors. No one in Washington is talking seriously about anything like that. What health reform will do instead is provide people with a system much like the one members of Congress enjoy today. They will be able to choose from a range of quality, affordable private health plans, and possibly a publicly run option as well. These plans will have to accept everyone regardless of preexisting conditions or age. There also will be sliding-scale subsidies for people with moderate to low incomes to make sure the coverage is affordable for everyone.

Will I lose access to my doctor?

No. The legislation will include a much-needed fix to the Medicare physician payment system to prevent an unwarranted 20 percent cut in their rates that otherwise would take effect next January and threaten access to doctors. It also will increase pay for primary care doctors to help preserve access to them, and promote training of more primary care doctors and nurses and geriatricians so we have enough health professionals to treat everyone.

Will there be rationing of health care to seniors based on age?

Absolutely not! That’s a very harmful myth that opponents of reform are spreading to scare seniors. Nothing in the proposed legislation would lead to rationing of care for older Americans or anyone, and if it did, AARP would be leading the fight to kill it.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CONTINUED AARP Q&A

Is there mandatory end-of-life counseling for all seniors? Why?

No. This is another myth that reform opponents are using to scare people. What the bill does is let physicians get paid by Medicare for counseling people about things like advance directives, living wills, durable powers of attorney, hospice care and other steps people can take to make sure their wishes about how they want to be cared for at the end of life are known and followed. It’s entirely up to the doctor and patient whether this counseling takes place, and completely up to patients whether they take steps based on the counseling to put their end-of-life wishes into legal documents. Facing a terminal disease or debilitating accident, some people want every possible life-saving measure in the hopes that treatment will give them more time with their families. Others will decide that additional treatment is not what they want and decline extraordinary measures. Either way, it should be their choice; all this does is help them make informed decisions about these issues with their doctor.

Will I be losing Medicare as the result of reform?

No. If you like the coverage you have, you can keep it, and that includes Medicare and your medigap coverage. Reform will help curb skyrocketing inflation throughout our health care system, including Medicare, so that Medicare coverage remains affordable for both you and the taxpayers who help foot the bill.

Will I be able to keep my current insurance coverage, which works well?

Yes. If you like the coverage you have, you can keep it.

Will preexisting conditions continue to exclude people from coverage?

No. There is broad, bipartisan agreement that health reform should ban insurers from discriminating against people based on any preexisting health problems.

Posted by wyatt29 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I got one word for everyone of you to ponder. This word sums it up for the Obama Healthcare agenda, SOCIALISM. I am estatic that the Aussise Gene knows has his Socialized healthcare. Did Gene mention that the Govt no longer allows individuals to own firearms. Australia is going down the socialist tube at a fast pace. Just google it.
I cannot wait for the cool medical card why not add some finger printing and facial scanning so I can be sure it is me going to the Hospital. Wake up America it ain't about helping you it is about making you dependent. When you become dependent on the Govt they call the shots. Study your History books when Govts rule ya loose. It is about control.

Posted by onarant (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2008

That is what they are telling us now, but we all know where it will lead down the road and that is what is so troubling.
You can drink the libs kool aid if you choose but don't expect me to. AARP has bought themselves a seat at the table and are a left leaning organization.
Read the pertinent sections in the bill!
What they are calling myths is what will happen when the cost of the program climbs out of control and th only way to cut costs is to ration treatment.
The government has no business trying to run health care, they ruin everything they get involved in.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would have read all of the comments, but there were no pictures. I think we should just go back to the way it used to be; a patient goes to the doctor who lives down the street, is a friend, and accepts a live chicken (or a home cooked chicken dinner) for payment, gives the patient some pills, and send him on his way, greets him at church on Sunday and sometimes comes home to eat dinner after church. Ah, the good old days when we could all be the same caste and barter for what we needed. Gee, how hard could it be to go back to simple times, live in a teepee and let the medicine man shake a stick over the ill?

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Onarant
I respect your opinion just don't agree...when the following is reality:
"I have come to the sad opinion that anyone, regardless of age, who is believing and falling for the sap that is being put in front of them by multi millionaires who are feeding at the trough of their fears and their health and those who are subsidized financially by these crooks, deserves whatever they get should this effort at healthcare reform fail. I am a Registered Nurse for many years and I cannot believe how gullible and how ignorant some people are and how they FAIL to take responsibility for informing THEMSELVES and for at least understanding the basic concept proposed and for failing to understand that the same thing was said about Medicare some 60 years ago. I am of the age that I just do not care anymore. If it fails, and I cannot be treated, so be it. I would not want to be dependent upon a society who allowed health care to remain a for profit, lucrative, commodity at the expense of the basic quality of life for the masses. We will deserve whatever we get. Those not in favor of healthcare for all are the same ones who would like to get rid of Medicare and Social Security, too. Good Luck, Seniors!"

This is a very sad commentary......

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on August 1, 2009 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is sad, 2008, is that people like you have no concept of the distinction between rights and privileges and no understanding that the basic problem with health care costs is not a shadowy group of greedy for-profit conspiratorial doctors and insurance companies.

The truth is that insurance companies invest the money they take in as premiums in corporate and government bonds and corporate stocks and use the profits to pay claims and pay themselves what is left over. There is some collusion going on to continually push prices higher, but the government is one of the conspirators in that it provides the Treasury securities these insurance companies buys and local, state, and federal government invest public pension funds amounting collectively to hundreds of trillions of dollars in insurance companies, banks, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, and companies that build the devices used in health care. Government is in fact the largest investor in these companies and the largest profiteer. Government then takes any profits made and reinvests, or uses some small portion to provide the multitude of social services saps like you think you have a right to. People like you put us into the position of having to pay interest on money we loan to the government.

The quickest way to reform health care is to reform the financial system and do away with fractional reserve banking and take away from government the ability to invest in private companies and collectively vote by proxy on company issues while at the same time voting in state and federal legislatures "reforms" designed to increase the profits of the public/private partnership being used to buy your vote and prostitute your neighbors and children.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, EnKikur it is a sorry set of circumstances, and it's been this way for a very long time, it certainly didn't happen over night. It's a shame that greed trumps people. Unfortunately, for now anyway it doesn't appear that a complete over hall of the financial system will occur. What we do have control over is our power of the consumer, the power of our vote, the power of taking responsibility and the power to educate ourselves. No one is buying my vote any more than they are buying yours. And I would never presume or assume "that people like you have no concept of the distinction between rights and privileges and no understanding that the basic problem with health care costs is not a shadowy group of greedy for-profit conspiratorial doctors and insurance companies". If that was the width and breadth of my beliefs that would be just as
contemptible as relying on only one source for information, research and fact finding. There is a lot to be done to inform, educate and reform government on Federal, State and Local levels. It needs to start some where; Natchez is a perfect microcosm of the financial debacle we are in all over the country.

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on August 1, 2009 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EnkiKur/ You just can't explain logic to certain ones as we all know! Keep "at it" and Good Luck!

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on August 4, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Decide not to be sick. Laughter is the best medicine. Take two jokes and call me in the morning. Start each day with a little haha, prayer, and meditation. Imagine all of us sitting in the doctor's office holding live chickens or pigs on a leash. I wasn't trying to offend you, just trying to make some lemonaide. Sorry about the sour face, I must not have put in enough sugar.

Posted by Bobaloo (anonymous) on August 5, 2009 at 6:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lots o spew smellling this one up.......

Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on August 7, 2009 at 12:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Close your Mouth because it's getting deeper!