Posted by thetinman (Keith Reynolds) on November 1, 2009 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From the open field where the not being used anymore swimming pool is, is a great place to place another one or two more ball fields. There is enough land in the Duncan Park area to be utilized.

Posted by thetinman (Keith Reynolds) on November 1, 2009 at 1:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"County supervisor Mike Lazarus is ""convinced"" the county can pay for a recreation complex’s construction on its own provided the city and school district agrees to pay for the upkeep."

Convinced, to me is not good enough. I still say taxes will go up. I am beyond convinced. Doesn't quite smell as bad as the health care disaster Washington is throwing at us, but it does have a stink to it.

I say fix up what we got. Duncan Park!! if anything.

GOD bless all

JESUS CHRIST is coming soon

Posted by iluvntz2 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Duncan Park can not meet all the recreation needs, fixed up or not. Tennis, yes; golf, yes; 2 ball fields? no they work for 2 age groups, what about the rest of the kids?

Duncan Park does not meet the needs of softball or soccer at all. How much does the city and county spend on these activities now?

However, if our supervisors and aldermen are not honest with us, we have no idea what it cost and how it will be funded, do we?

Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 5:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm afraid if you were to sneak up on ANY of our aldermen you'd be shocked by the lies.
They all think they're Gods in this town.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 6:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Perhaps Pollard is worried that the city's cost of upkeep for the creation center will come into conflict with his grossly inflated alderman's salary?

Posted by grungebob (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ricky Gray shows promise? For what? World's oldest class clown - maybe.

Posted by Crakalakin (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 7:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Twenty bucks says what Pollard told the woman is right. I have no doubt this complex will be built and I have no doubt the city and county leaders will try to do it without raising taxes. I also have no doubt they will not be able to. It might not be "x% tax to fund rec complex" but more likely, since the schools are going to be involved (the only real reason for involving them), it will be education related but actually go to the complex. Involving the schools is a shady thing to do as they receive federal and state funds for education. If Natchez' leadership has plans to transform some of that into money for a city/county rec complex or its upkeep, why that it the very definition of fraud and abuse.

Kevin, if you are going to call someone out on a lie, how about those who claim "now or never" on this complex? The fact is that now is not the time but those in convenient positions want it done now as to benefit themselves. That is why "now or never". The interested parties pushing that false meme won't be able to make a buck forever and times are tough so they want that money now.

Posted by gemccull (Gary McCullars) on November 1, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There will be an increase or increases in taxes for the recreation complex. One pop out of the box will be a "head count" tax on attendance for a Recreation Advertising Program, Etc.

The political HOGS will not be able to help themselves. What better excuse to raise taxes than the people have spoken.

IMO

Posted by happyreader (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The ND ran a really nice article today about kids being involved in 4H. Funny... an article about kids in Natchez, doing wholesome, mentally stimulating things, without a multimillion-dollar facility that only a select group in town wants. Gasp. I didn't think such things were possible. : )

Why is the city obligated to provide soccer and softball facilities? What about kids who are interested in canoeing, archery, horseback riding, putt-putt, rock-climbing... the list could go on... I'm NOT suggesting that the city ought to install those things either; I'm just pointing out that not everybody is wild about softball and soccer. We all have interests that I'm sure we'd love for our communities to subsidize, but most of us don't expect that to happen.

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Excellent point happyreader. And what about the kids who are not going to be able to afford all the equipment, uniforms, and registration fees?

Posted by southernwoman (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't think it would ever happen, but I agree completely with Crackalakin's comment.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

happyreader, Its going to be up to the citizens to demand stuff like rock climbing. Did you see how many kids were doing it at the Balloon Festival and also the other night at First Baptist Church? Our kids obviously want more than the climbing wall currently available at Duncan Park. But we could carry the sport far past the kid level if we'd consider climbing routes on the bluffs cuz that would bring more out-of-towners (with spending money).

Posted by Bobaloo (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sounds to me like Mr. Pollard told a straight out lie. Innuendo, conjecture, psychic, tarot, reading between the lines don't apply.

Straight talk is just that.
this is not...... remember it come election time.

if someone tells a lie in front of reporter...... plain dumb.
deserves every bit of grief they get.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

" provided the city and school district agrees to pay for the upkeep"

How much is the expected "upkeep" monthly, yearly, where is the school district and city supposed to come up with the money?

Who will do the maintenance, cleaning, lawn mowing, landscaping? Who will pay for the land this is supposed to be built on and who owns this land now?

With Baton Rouge and Jackson already putting on state tournaments who would play here?

Posted by speakup (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

when i tell a ball face lie, i make sure no one else is watching..how about you?

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 1, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Reporting on a private conversation is bad form. I wonder if Kevin informed Bob Pollard their conversation was on the record.

Posted by iluvntz2 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, newsflash! If you say something in front of a reporter, there is always the possibility that it will be reported unless you can convince them that it is off the record. I don't think Pollard is stupid, he had to know that it might end up in the paper.

C'mon, you know that, I don't think you are stupid either. I may not agree with much of what you say, but I respect your right to say it. Or, are you just trying to get off topic again.

Posted by welcometothejungle (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kevin did not do anything wrong by reporting it. He had even challenged Bob about it afterward. If he didn't want Kevin to hear his conversation, he should have moved away to continue it. This is what wrong with the politics in this county. The politicians talk out both sides of their mouth.

Posted by dottie (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Pollard deserves to have this lie shoved down his
throat. Frankly, I think it should have been front page news. A liar is a liar====nothing more.

Posted by timefertruth (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Everybody knows that all politicians talk out of both sides of their mouth, all will lie to you I don't care what anybody says.
All politicians from federal to local and state think that the voters are stupid people that's why they sneak things in on bills and laws and Don't tell the voters about it.

Posted by Natchezms (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's what you get for endorsing Pollard in the last election. You should have known better. Hope you won't make the same mistake again.

Posted by grungebob (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is a rare public official that can't go politically bipolar on contentious issues and can talk out of both sides of his mouth at the same time without biting off his forked tongue.

There are several things wrong here.

First is the assumption that one can be in favor of the rec facility and also believe it will at some point raise taxes. The positions are not mutually exclusive. The simple truth is no one knows.

Cooper was not privy to both sides of the conversation, which raises another problem.

Not only should the conversation have been off the record, that Pollard would speak to a constituent about anything in front of a reporter, even on the phone, strikes me as a violation of trust and confidentiality - besides being just plain stupid.

Finally, Cooper probably intended to write a pro referendum piece regardless. Pollard provided excellent grist for the mill.

Posted by destiny (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You can trust Lazarus. If he says it can be done, it will get done. By hook or by crook, someway, somehow, however, what needs to be done, he will get it done. Especially if he has Spanky in his corner on this and I think he does. I know both of them are very good business minded people. The two of them together make a powerful force. They are parents and very good parents (I must add) and care about their children's activities.

By the way why can't our kids have skate boarding facilities?????? I've spoken to many kids and asked them if Natchez was to build something for you kids, what would you like? 65% said skateboarding.

Posted by eawprops (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone needs to remember that Bob Pollard is the alderman that also oversees tourism. What is he doing in his position? I'd certainly like to know. If he is giving ridiculous double talk he is doing it to maintain his job. I think he needs to get a new job that requires a paper hat!

Greg Iles correctly pointed out what we need to do to help out Natchez. However, Bob Pollard is that same person that is in charge of tourism. Let's see where he goes with either issue. He's not performing on either side of this fence and he needs to be voted out.

An article from May of 2007 in the ND talked about how great our media liason was doing to get so many great shows and movie groups that were "desperate" to come to Natchez. She claimed the phone was ringing off the hook due to her fantastic California connectinos. Nothing has shown up yet! The person in charge of the visitor center is another major FAILURE!!!! She also has a nasty attitude and has no qualifications that suit her for the job she has! I recently heard how she got her job. I won't mention that previous mayor's name but "I KNOW"!

Bob Pollard is in a position where can help get a great recreational facility into town and also can get "QUALIFIED" folks to run our visitor center, but what is happening? NOTHING!!!! Bob Pollard you need to do the job you were elected to do. If you can't do it, I vow to personally get you out of your office in favor of someone that really cares about Natchez and wants to see this city move forward!

If you really did care about this town you would replace a couple of previously mentioned people at the visitor center and you would be straight forward with concerned voters that want answers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goodbye BOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS Bob why aren't you in greater attendance at meetings with the Natchez Tourism Board???? Isn't this what you asked to oversee? It's also strange that the person in charge of the visitor center and media liason rarely show up for meetings. They should have created this organization and be the leading members to get more business owners involved. Some folks want to sit on their laurels. I hope your laurels have thorns!!!!

Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How do you know a politician is lying? His lips are moving.

Posted by niderbip (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 5:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mr pollard is 100% correct.....you think it's free?

Posted by gemccull (Gary McCullars) on November 1, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We will either pay for the rec complex with current tax burden on the taxpayer or we will pay for it with a new tax burden on the taxpayer.

My guess is that we will pay for it on a new tax burden on the taxpayer.

Posted by Ntz (anonymous) on November 1, 2009 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So what if they say we have to pay taxes after its built, think about what the town can accomplish with what this facility can do for the town. I think alot of these people who don't want it doesn't have kids or doesn't care what their kids do. I have three little kids who will play sports. Duncan Park fields are old and its time to move on. We have to think about the future. You wonder why young adults alot who are my age doesn't come back to Natchez?????
You can't accept change b/c you probably are in with the older crowd of this town who doesn't do nothing but sit around complaining about this town. At least we have leaders who are taking that step to do something.
I think we need to purge the BOA and Supervisors with some younger adults who has vision. I think their should be a term limit for the BOA/BOS. I personally would run for BOA if I could and for less money. I have a good full time job, and I'll represent my area of residents for $6000/year.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 5:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Folks, I know a lot of people want this recreation center. It would be just as dishonest to say it won't raise taxes as it is to say it would, even more so, for the simplest reason of all.

A bond issue is a loan taken at interest. The loan must be paid back. Governments have no money of their own, the money they spend comes from the people in the form of taxes. Every bond issue is accompanied by a tax increase. The only way it can happen that a bond issue is not accompanied by a tax increase is if the bond holders agree to accept a negative rate of interest.

It may be that a small tax increase to fund a rec center is not a bad thing at all. It may do all the things the supporters are hoping it will. This is a risk venture by the people of Adams County. The outcome is not known and cannot be. If the citizens want a rec center the best chance for its success is to openly acknowledge a tax increase of sufficient amount to fully capitalize the endeavor, to be followed by a tax decrease should it happen that more tax was raised than needed. Pinching pennies will insure failure of the complex.

There are solutions to all of the possible problems that could be associated with the complex.

In a way this is no different than the program former governer Hugh White created to save Columbia, Ms at the beginning of the depression. He led the citizens to each personally commit to signing a note to build a factory for Reliance Manufacturing Company who came to town and set up in the citizen funded building. Columbia was saved, and it was that program that brought Armstrong, Johns-Manville, and International Paper to Natchez and gave Natchez its post-war heyday.

By agreeing to a bond issue of significant amount the residents of Adams County will be doing the same thing the residents of Columbia did to save their town. They will be committing their money to a risk venture; the citizens of Columbia did not know if their plan would work or not but they took the chance and their town was saved.

Each individual has to decide whether or not to take a share of the risk on this complex. One thing is certain, Armstrong, IP, and Johns-Manville are not coming back.

Even if it means higher taxes it may be a very good thing to suffer for a while. The citizens must only demand that when the payoff comes they not continue to be burdened with some new scheme.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 5:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The people build a factory

Rather than asking a few prominent businessmen to pledge the necessary funds for building the factory, Mayor White declared a two-hour holiday to hold a community meeting and decide the matter. After discussing the proposition, businessmen, secretaries, clerks, schoolteachers, and farmers signed promissory notes, payable over several months, to guarantee the funding. With the pledges in hand, White obtained a loan from New Orleans bankers for the full amount needed to start construction of the factory. The modern brick building Reliance Manufacturing soon occupied belonged to the people and represented their expectations for future prosperity.

http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/224/...

Mayor White was honest with the people of Columbia. In those days the people understood much more than they do now money and finance. They understood the notes they signed committed them to both the possibility of prosperity and of increased hardship. Honesty made that deal work.
Mayor White was a true leader. He didn't just talk about the roses, he talked about the thorns too.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Common law rules common interactions among people. Common law is just that law based on the golden rule, and upon custom- you expect full disclosure and you are expected to give full disclosure. A representation of intent to act that leaves out some detail in an effort to persuade the other to accept the proposal is dishonesty, not part of the golden rule, and voids a common law contract.

So, if the politicians and supporters propose "we will build a complex and it won't raise taxes" the people should remember this next election time. The people should say, "do you guarantee it won't?" In essence, proponents of the complex are offering a proposal for acceptance by the rest of the population. Are the proponents offering any personal guarantees that bind them to their statements?

If the politicians and supporters propose "we will build a complex and it might raise taxes, but we think we should do it anway because" and show examples of balance sheets of other city's complexes, not vague references to what one events gross was, does that not seem a better way to proceed?

What do all of you think? Would you more willingly accept a proposal you know to be honest, or one that you are told is honest? Does wording have importance to you?

If wording has no importance to you, please let me broker a new car deal for you. I guarantee to save you at least $500 over MSRP on the exact car you want. You'll save $500.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 6:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ntz, I like your proposal- bidding on pay for local office. I would be willing to bet that's illegal though, there's probably some law that prevents a campaigner from saying "I'll do the job for 30% less than the incumbent", though office holders do sometimes forego their pay in a display of public munificence- makes you wonder what the holdback is in those cases.

Posted by mrmojorisin (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 6:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How did it get all wild and crazy here?

Pollard told a fib... Kevin heard him and has called him out....isn't that what he is supposed to do? THIS vote is only to show whether the people of Natchez...at least the 30% who will vote....want a $5 million dollar rec complex or not. It's simply legal tender for the BOA and BOS when and if it ever comes to fruition...if it costs too much and makes no money...It was us, the voters who wanted it.....it it makes tons of money, it was them that got it done for us!

Voter Amnesia will keep Pollard in office just as it has so many of the others...............so I wouldn't worry about it too much, Bob, if I were you.

--mojo

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mojo, first, if you read back through all the Democrat articles you will see that the intention is to build a 9-15 million dollar complex. That 5 million figure is designed to gain support for the referendum because its "at least a 5 million dollar bond issue".

Still, a 15 million dollar complex, even if taxes went up, and they will, might really be Natchez salvation.

Has Bob Lazarus offered to sign a pledge backed by the title to his home, or offered to step down from office and never again to run for public office if his statements regarding retirment of debt turn out to be non-factual? That would convince me to support the complex based on his say-so. But other than real committment of that sort say-so is just say-so.

Black's Law defines "public" in this way:

The populace: community. "That vast multitude, which includes the ignorant, the unthinking, and the credulous, who, in making purchases, do not stop to analyze, but are governened by appearance and general impression."

Appearance and bonded performance are horses of different colors, and that's what Black is getting at. If you don't analyze, and you can't analyze without proper source material, and you make a decision based on general impression you are going to get fooled because, from my observations, politicians tend to operate more under Merchant Law than Common Law. In Merchant Law your silence in a matter is your consent to the matter; if you don't ask to see verified cost projections the other party is not held to be liable for your ignorance.

If a proposal is made and proof is not offered up front there is a reason- the offerer hopes you will be persuaded on the basis of his enthusiasm for his proposal and not on your careful analysis of the proposal. That's what is happening here.

I am for the complex, but I know it will raise taxes. I think it is worth the risk. The complex combined with the new canoe canal and downtown walk will give Natchez new life. I have a vested interest though, as I am opening a new business in the area. I am willing to pay some extra taxes because increased tourism to our area will increase my sales. The profit gained will more than offset what I have to pay to build the complex.

Posted by ntzlvr (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Meanwhile across the bridge, Vidalia's recreation fields will be up and running for 15 years before Natchez can get one out of the talking phases.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ntzlvr, concerning --> "Vidalia's recreation fields will be up and running for 15 years before Natchez can get one out of the talking phases"

That is probably what Vidalia resident "EnKiKur" would like to see. He normally gets very involved in these discussions when there is a chance for Natchez to finally get on their feet and make a few improvements.

:)

Personally, I've never done anything but cheer Vidalia along. I'm proud of their direction and improvements and I'd never consider trying to argue down their progress.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

However, Marty, I really DO appreciate these - "I am for the complex" and "I think it is worth the risk".

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NASD actually has the money to begin 7 million dollars worth of construction next week, but that money is invested elsewhere even though the citizens of Adams County paid excess taxes to support the system.

Across the south, the states each year fail to bring forward onto the current year's budget the approx. 12% excess from the previous year. Of those hundreds of billions of dollars collected in these funds, onlyt 16% of that is reinvested in the south. That money goes to do things like buy derivatives that cause global recessions, build factories in China, wireless networks in Europe where they have high speed access we can only dream about, crystal clear television reception while we have snowy cable- what is this all about?

Why doesn't NASD cough up that approx. 10 million that exists above the required 17 million in 16th funds that cannot be spent? Somebody, a lot of somebody's, ought to speak up.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am for it OGD, and I think people ought to call the school board and just ask them how much they have in total cash and investments and where they got that money, how much of that total is restricted and where it is all invested.

They publish an annual report that details it all, that you can read online. Just go to Mississippi State Office of the Auditor and look for it and you will see they do indeed have millions of extra cash and investments. Why? Why isn't that money invested back in Adams County to help the people it came from?

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And OGD, I am looking for a building in Natchez to run Brer Rabbit Excursions out of, so I will be affected by the tax increases. I don't mind. If the people support the referendum I will give them 3% off any of my services, and I think all the other members of the Chamber of Commerce should offer them something to, because the greatest benefit will go to business owners. Business owners should be willing to share the profits since the public is assuming the risk.

Vote for the referendum, get a 3% discount on scooter rentals and tours from Brer Rabbit. That is the way to do things.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vote Marty for Mayor of Natchez, don't vote for the writer guy who seems to be challenging me. He's got some good ideas but I am better at setting up kickback schemes. And I'll share with the people, just like Huey Long did.

A chicken in every pot, every man a king, and no one wears a crown but me!

Posted by chuckydaone (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Unfortunately, misleading the public seems to be the "order of the day" with many elected officials. The days of serving the public good are long gone and too many people are in public service for the wrong reason, mainly self aggrandizement. This is why it is important for news outlets to be thorough and unbiased offering the public the opportunity to read or view and decide for themselves. It is sad that we have also lost our ability to trust our news sources for accuracy and balance. To the point of the article, a vote Tuesday is not a vote to raise taxes. Saying so is wrong no matter how you look at it. Any reasonable person knows an eventual complex will cost money and that money could be from taxes. But that is not what the immediate vote is about.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the Democrat should knock $5.00 off their montly subscription rate if they support the referendum. If they do, then I will subscribe instead of just reading it for free online. I am sure I could find some use for it.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with many of your points Chuck. However, this referendum talk is "incrementalism" and the amount mentioned is not the same as previous amounts mentioned. The referendum is designed to get the people saying "yes", the way a car salesman does. There would probably be less resistance if not so much Betty Crocker psychology were being practiced- that stuff intuitively makes people uneasy.

Let's just be honest. If a complex is built, taxes will go up, but it is still a worthy project. Let the Chamber make a pledge to the people to share their profits through reduced costs or higher wages for employees and better service to customers. Make it work for everyone.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Put up some of those purty advertising movie screens around that recreation complex like the one they have on the highway between Vidalia and Ferriday, on the sides of buildings in NYC and Las Vegas, and like the ones on professional ball fields, and sell ads...that should help fund the recreation complex.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What is Brer Rabbitt excursions going to be? A dinner boat ride? Tours to where?

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Natchez needs a comedy club. I can see that not enough people around here are getting enough laughs, and you know what they say...laughter is the best medicine.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's going to be scooter tours time4change, like Jerry Yonkman is doing, except I have 6 big ones and ten little ones. I am going to rent my little ones in Vidalia so I don't mess with Jerry's market, and I have a big 24' trailer to haul them out into the country so people can ride them at Emerald Mound, Windsor, Lake St. John, or if they want I'll take them to New Orleans or wherever they want to ride them.

I have two just for ladies, very cute Vespas, and I will be giving them a coming out party week after next. There will be an ad in the paper. I'm going to buy so much advertising from Kevin that he'll feel guilty about not buying advertising in the Churchhill Republican.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Enkikur I rode by your house yesterday to see what cars were in the yard...lol, not! I really rode by to see if it looked worth $135K. hmmm...I'm a lil concerned that the annuakii may be using that house as a portal, lol.

Posted by Bobaloo (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

True, it's possible that a new complex could possibly raise some tax somewhere. If the elected officials in charge let it go that way. It's also possible that a bond issue could prevent it.

What's not true is voting yes on the referendum of "do you want, yes or no?" will raise taxes.

A lie is a lie.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, I don't know what Brer Rabbit Excursions is. But it sounds like something right up my alley since I was raised on those old stories.

:)

I've seen our good friend Yeahuhuh suggesting eco-tourism. Perhaps thats a good outlet for you. And include it with agriculture. I'm always surprised at the folks (even locals) that do not recognize corn, cotton, beans, etc. when they are growing in the field. That's shameful. Perhaps some agricultural tours are in order. And you can even throw in a briarpatch tour.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, if you rent a scooter from me for $12.50 extra you can get the Eco-Tour Pak, pre-installed on certain scooters. It includes Non-Hazardous Level CO2 tire inflation to combat global warming, radiator water sucked right out of the air through a solar powered machine so your radiator water places no stress on public systems, use of a 100% fully recyclable scooter, and we will plant a tree for you. A nice oak or beech or pecan, not those cheap pines like Al Gore's carbon abatement schemes offer.

By the way, OGD, do you have any land that needs reforesting? If you do, Brer Rabbit wants to talk to you.

time4change, I have receipts to prove I have over 200 thousand in that house. I'm not selling it for 135, that is where bids start and bidding is open till April 15. I already have a bid for 142.5, as you will see in the paper tomorrow. You can see what the best offer is by watching the ad in the paper till April, or till I get the price I am willing to settle for.

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Every adult that has commented pro Recreation center says it’s for the children. I believe that the Rec. center is for the betterment of the pockets of the adults that have a vested interest in building a Rec. center.

If the children’s best interest were at the heart of the issue then a Rec. center would be the last item on the list!

If the children’s best interest were at the center of this referendum then any monies available without taking out loans, or increasing taxes or doing a bond would be to reinvest in the Natchez School System.

The teachers should get a pay raise to get and hold the best teachers we can.

After school programs with tutoring for all public schools, should be mandatory when students grades fall below a C

Field trips for educational purposes

Updated resources, computers and software

Classroom supplies that are not paid for by the teachers and parents

Programs where the baby dolls are sent home with the student’s, let the babies cry all night and the kids and parents have to deal with them. Work study jobs for credits in Daycare centers, let the boys and girls change real diapers. Work study jobs at the local paper, local bank, local grocery store, hospitals, veterinary clinic, mechanic shop, lumber yard, etc. Or maybe Wallmart or the tourist industry where they could see what a wonderful pay minimum wage will bring them if they don’t get an education!

Bring in realistic trade schools, not everyone is cut out for college

The list goes on for all the needs the Natchez school district requires to be top notch educational facilities. The public schools are basically segregated in Natchez, why should financially struggling parents have to pay for their children to go to private schools. If the school system isn’t producing top notch graduating students who would want to invest in moving here? RECREATION SHOULD NOT COME BEFORE THE EDUCATIONAL NEEDS OF YOUR CHILDREN! IF AS MUCH ENERGY TIME AND MONEY WERE BEING SPENT ON EDUCATION INSTEAD OF PLAY TIME MAYBE NATCHEZ WOULD HAVE MORE GRADUATES, HIGHER TEST SCORES AND LESS DROP OUTS.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good points 2008. We hear a lot of talk about tourism becoming our major industry, but do we hear anything about Co-Lin offering any tourism training? Or any training in the service fields related to tourism?

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For instance, 2008, do you have any idea what a well trained waiter can make in tips? Or a chef? Where's our culinary school, our service staff training school?

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Marty, I'd really expect a complimentary scoot about town first. And sorry, the land is thick with trees. Its hard to conceal a still otherwise.

:)

For waiter training I think they need to start 'em like they do for ice skating - All the little girls are lined up and the pretty ones are pulled out and sent down to the figure skating class. The rest are shuffled off to speed skating.

:I

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, I have a degree in hotel and restaurant management, but those tips are not here, check with your minimum wage waiters and waitress in Vidalia and Natchez. I have friends in the culinary field, a chef can earn 6 figures if he is like my friend that was the chef for the Hard Rock restaurants for Peter Morton. But it isn't going to happen here. The kids need good grades to get into a 4 year school that specializes in Food Service Management like Las Vegas.

The jobs and pay will never be here....the kids need to get out in the real world, away from Natchez and go to college and see what an education will get them, but they need the support and the Natchez school district needs the money to get them there!

Posted by 2008 (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Of course, field trips to the morgue, Angola, jails, AA meetings and mortuaries would also be a good place to see what wrong turns in life and lack of education will get you!

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, you are right on that about the field trips, but fact is some of today's kids see that life as glamorous.

Trade schools turning out welders for shipyards hiring illegal immigrants are a thing of the past- high quality auto training for AST would be okay, but the trade schools are outdated.

The thing is, and I've had this complaint from European visitors I brought over here, is that the level of service in Natchez is deplorable by European standards. Gum chewing waitresses, irate clerks, snooty managers- all that makes a terrible impression.

Maybe the first thing we need is etiquette training. The kids going into the waitress and other jobs don't even have a basic idea of what manners are. How can they be expected to have them if they aren't exposed to them? But a nasty, ill mannered employee can be had cheaply. A person who knows how to carry himself isn't going to work for peanuts.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, you've got your complimentary scoot. If you have a surplus of trees that's fine, Brer Rabbit will buy the rights to your carbon sequestration and resale them to our eco conscious customers- and we can bring them out for a tour of your forest, and there's your agri-tourism right there, and your wife can sell them lemonade and mint julep, if the government will allow it.

In fact, OGD, with your schedule you could be a scooter guide for us. We'd pay you about 10 an hour to take people out to places like Rodney to see the cannonball stuck in the church. You could get paid for having fun, and tell all the lies you want.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We'll find out what Gore's current rates for carbon sequestration is, I think it is $19.00 a ton, and sell those rights to our scooter customers, and split 50/50 with you. We'll undercut him by 20% or so, and give the people a good deal.

"Free market solutions to a changing global economy."

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, Sounds excellent. I love to tell lies. I've been trying to convince the grandkids that they used to be grubs that I found in a rotten log. I told them that me and OldGrandMa were looking for bait and these 2 little grubs were the cutest so we saved them and fed them and they grew into children.

Sadly, the other day I told them (truthfully) that when me and OldGrandMa were kids, they used to put the children in the backs of pickups to go anywhere in this county. They thought I was foolin'. Go figure.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

:) You sound like an excellent tour guide. We might be able to charge $25.00 an hour for you to liberals from up north who want to experience local color.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, I really hope you come on board. I have a special project concerning that cannonball up there in Rodney.

It's just plain bad manners not to clean up after yourself after invading a peaceful land. I want to get that cannonball and take it up to Washington and put in Lincoln's lap at the memorial, and invoice the Obama administration for time, trouble, and environmental damage, and demand a superfund settlement to clean up all the rest of that federal metal they left laying around down here. I need a good man to ride shotgun on the journey- no telling what kind of carpetbaggers and scalawags might try to sabotage the mission.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess I ought to ask OGD, you aren't afraid of crossing over into federal territory are you? If you are, we might want to get you some valium before we leave.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Going to DC sounds like a good plan. As long as I can shoot a few roadsigns along the way.

But I doubt Obama will do anything for us. Has he even visited the state since he's been in office? I read recently that he spends 75% of his time in "blue" states. Maybe he doesn't like eating catfish or singing the blues?

:)

Posted by speakup (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GOSH. DID WE EVER GET OFF THE BOB STORY...

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And tell me what you think about this OGD- a Natchez belle being held in the iron grip of a British Banker!

It's shocking, but true, see for yourself at www.elizabethscanlonthomas.com

Dare we try to free her? There will be an opportunity, he's bringing her to Natchez in March to flaunt his British victory over the many wonderful examples of Mississippian Manhood who could have claimed her.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shoot all the roadsigns you want- we'll pose as liberals and that will make it ok.

A few weeks ago Rush said the only reason the liberals were for gun control was because they didn't have any. Then a few minutes later he laughed and said he had a flood of emails saying "oh yes we do Rush!". We'll pretend to be one of those gun toting liberal types.

You'll have to buy steel shot though, nobody would believe a roadsign shooting liberal would be using lead- it would blow our cover.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe this isn't really a Bob Pollard story speakup. Maybe Bob sincerely believes the referendum will lead to higher taxes and was just being honest about his belief with his constituent.

Maybe this story is more about the great need Natchez has for something to stir the creativity and productivity of the people to bring a higher level of prosperity for us all; maybe it is about the passion each of the various proponents feel for the project and their fear that the people cannot accept the idea of higher taxes even if it will lead to better things.

Look at what is possible- Keith Benoist's St. Catherine Creek kayak project becoming a reality, Milicent's downtown trail- the recreation complex would complete the facelift of Natchez and usher in a new age. There should be a mass meeting at the convention center to discuss these things, to lay it all out in the open, a chance for all parties to express their point of view and move toward consensus.

This recession will end and the city needs to be ready to accept the prosperity that will be available, but it needs support for these projects. It's a risk, but it is even more risky not to be ready when opportunity knocks.

A Natchez with a new canoe canal, a downtown walk, the new national park on the bluff, a new recreation center, all these things will be provide a host of entrepreneurial opportunities for everyone with the courage to take a little personal risk. There are lots of things that can be offered, it's just that the people are so downtrodden now they can't see them.

Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Isn't Mr. Pollard a used car salesman in his spare time?

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, I got lost on the link. I ain't good at this internet stuff. But I'm old. And feeble too.

:)

Concerning --> "we'll pose as liberals and that will make it ok"

That is about as true as you can get towards current attitudes that liberals have. I remember when all the liberals called the Glock a "terrorist" gun since it was not all steel. I heard the African American D.C. police chief say how he liked the Glock and then the criticism stopped immediately. And that is only the OLD example.

Concerning --> "steel shot"

Nope. Sorry. Steve McQueen taught me how to say "I deal in lead".

:)

Concerning --> "Keith Benoist's St. Catherine Creek kayak project"

I thought that was Tony Byrne's annual project. Sorry, but I'm against it. I like creeks. And I like 'em free flowing. Besides, St. Catherine is the best hiking trail in the county. I'd hate to see it killed. We have ample flatwater within 5-30 miles for folks to paddle on. Besides, I can't see changing the "historic" nature of the creek.

Concerning --> "Milicent's downtown trail"

I'm really for this one. It will give me more hunting grounds for skateboarders. Its wonderful what a handful of pea gravel will do. Have you seen my YouTube videos?

I'm still hoping for the bridge walkway. Then you and I can meet in the middle and spit over the edge and talk and stuff.

Meanwhile, I figure poor Pollard is only suffering from that old political foot-in-mouth sickness. You reckon he caught it from Jake?

:)

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Keith has been pushing that for a while OGD, though I'm not sure whose brainchild it is. I know his brother mentioned it three or four years ago too. Houma fixed up the little bayou that runs through their town and it's very nice now, skateboarders love it. They like to gather up and throw rocks at the boats when we pass by, and make curious Masonic looking handsignals to us. Friendly chaps, and playful.

I'm mixed on the Creek project too. It won't have to be very deep for kayaks, and maybe they won't disturb your end too much. You could always line cannons up on your creek bank and suggest a toll for passage if it really offends you, and it would be fun to come up there and shoot the cannons off.

Which of the proposed wiers will your part be contained in? If they do build it, I want to get a party barge and put on it for rental- we can go halves on that. If you can't hike on the creek at least you can make some money off of it. We'll get a solar powered electric driven one, claim an Obama green stimulus check, and charge double over a gas one for supporting the green movement.

I'd prefer another ferry, a small foot ferry OGD, closed to all traffic but pedestrian, bicycles, and scooters, not that I have any vested interest in it. I also support closing downtown Natchez to car traffic, limiting it to fuel efficient smaller vehicles with less than four wheels.

Plus, I want Concordia Parish to reopen the levee from the riverfront park to Minorca and pave the top of it for bicycles, hikers, and scooter riders- charge them a small toll. They say it's closed because of cattle rustlers, but if cars weren't allowed it would be easy to catch rustlers carrying cows out on foot.

There is a very unique ecosystem behind that levee that the people are being denied access to. The cows don't eat the water, nor would they eat the new pavement on top of the levee, so I don't see how my plan would inhibit any use the current lease holder makes of the land. I loved riding my motorcycle on that levee road when I was a kid and I'm not happy about it being closed for the pleasure of a few bucolic cows.

My opinion is that Bob was just being honest, perhaps he has some belief that honesty is the best policy. Has Jake been down in the mouth? I hadn't heard, I hope he gets better soon.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On that internet link, it is to Elizabeth Scanlon Thomas' blog. She lived in Natchez as a little girl and then moved out to Kansas or Oklahoma, one of those wild territories. Her dad was once coroner in Adams County back during the civil rights unrest. Elizabeth once played Mary at the Episcopal Church's Christmas Play. Her mom got her job, her mom was in charge of actress selection and determined Elizabeth was the girl best suited for the part.

She has the best blog I've ever read. It's got all sorts of stuff in it and I love to stir them up. It has a higher concentration of liberals than the Democrat, if you can feature that, but they are good natured liberals and pretty smart too. I've been evangelizing them, trying to turn them away from their wicked leftist ways and convert to the pure truth of free market voluntarism.

I haven't turned any of them yet, but I am patient and slowly guiding them toward the light. I've come up with an ingenious plan for converting some of them. Look at it here, you'll have to read all the posts to get it: http://www.elizabethscanlonthomas.com/20...

Notice the skillful way I use a variety of aliases to preach the gospel of capitalism. They might not admit it out loud, but I know I have some of them rethinking.

Posted by niderbip (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So, if your:

BOE tax
City tax
County tax

went up this year (and they can't afford to cut the grass they have now and built very little),

when they build a rec complex they have ZERO bid costs on, when completed,

your taxes will go:

down?
up?

Pollard told it like it is.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The city and county can afford to take care of the necessary things but they can't afford to operate the city and county as a jobs program.

The Crescent City Connection toll bridge in New Orleans collects 143 million a year in tolls, but the bureacracy that collects the tolls spend 176 million doing it. There are probably similar situations spread throughout city and county government where inefficient jobs are protected in order to secure voting blocks for incumbents. The citizens should be more active in budget discussions and learn it inside and out.

Dan Dillard's grass cutting idea is a good one. Now if the city can just refrain from signing long term contracts that will allow one contractor to monopolize the grass cutting market the city can maintain a low cost for grass cutting.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, the creek begins to show some faults once it flows past Foster Mound. You start to see more trash. And there is sewage also. That's from the Broadmoor area, so I've been told. I'd track it upstream and point out the culprit/s if I thought the county, state or Feds would correct the situation. But then, they HAVE to know it already. And there is a landfill above Washington. You don't see trash in the water but it causes the creek to get cloudy and take on a distinctive (unpleasant) smell after heavy rains. You'd think that this would not happen in 2009, but it sure do.

I normally hike quick and quiet and avoid prying eyes and hilltop shooters. But, if the creek goes under the floodwaters of a dam, maybe I'll take you up on the cannon recreation.

I'll have to follow your link. Liberals in Kansas and Oklahoma? Whats the world coming to?

:)

Using the levee top sounds good to me. There are many ways to cure rustling. Its a shame they chose to cure recreation instead.

I'm hoping that Bob Pollard will redeem himself by running on a re-election platform of zero salaries for aldermen. That should bring him back to favor with the public. I might even move into his territory and he'll gain a vote. Wouldn't that be worth it to him?

:)

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, the St. Catherine Creek Authority is in charge of that creek now, they can't write tickets but I do believe they are bound to report violations to the EPA. The Authority has the right to enter land for the purposes of inspection, so if you are having problems with pollution you should notify them. Maybe they can just go ask the people to clean up their act and give them a reasonable amount of time to do it.

If there is sewage runoff from Broadmoor it is the Authority's responsibility to cure it, because they own the sewage water too. That makes the Authority liable and you can sue them if they don't take care of the problem.

The Creek Authority owns all the water in Adams County except the potable water. You should split your settlement with me for letting you know.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If I was being directly affected by the pollution I would have cured the problem by now. But I only see it when I visit St. Catherine. My family interest is on a branch. And the Creek Authority can own any water in my creek once it flows off of my property. Until then, its mine. This ain't Colorado.

I won't say much about the creek authority tresspassing on private property since I tend to do it also. But I'll give 'em a good scare if I catch 'em. I have to keep up appearances, you understand.

:)

I'll say this - If the authority does not know that the creek has sewage and the landfill taints the creek, then the "Authority" is most certainly and absolutely not doing much of a job. But in this county I might expect the landfill to have family/business connections with anyone associated with the authority.

You got some names and/or phone numbers in your information bag?

Posted by StuWhoMoved (anonymous) on November 2, 2009 at 10:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just food for thought but it has ben my experience that reporters lie as good as politicians. Anything for a story. Not saying Kevin is just that i trust them about as much as i trust a politician. Which is not at all. Liberal media is killing this country!

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The board members of the Authority are the same as the board members of the EDA. Ken Herrington is the latest one to be appointed to the board. Since his family has been so concerned with water in Adams County he would be a good one to talk to.

Just go to the Adams County EDA website and look at the board members names and you have the Creek Authority.

Read this: http://www.sos.ms.gov/LP/2008G/SB3085.PD...

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 2, 2009 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If Broadmoor is leaking sewage that is a safety hazard to the whole watershed. It's especially bad for the residents of Broadmoor. There should be some stimulus money to address such a basic problem. Maybe Broadmoor needs a new sewage treatment plant.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 6:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, I would think that out-of-the city folks just use septic tanks and field lines. What is in the creek is not enough to be coming from an entire neighborhood. But a few folks may be bypassing the normal septic tank system and running their stuff directly into a nearby gully that would empty into the creek.

The landfill is more worrisome because it is most likely to carry local political connections with it. Thanks for the link.

StuWhoMoved, If Kevin was not telling the truth I'd think Pollard would have seen a lawyer by now. And EnKiKur says that Kevin was wrong to report a private phone conversation. I say that for a politician to say stuff he doesn't want repeated in front of a reporter who is sometimes so desperate for news that he resorts to throwing darts ain't very smart. What say you?

:)

Posted by sandbagger (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OLDGRANDAD: show me some finacial figures showing how much a RUCK CLIMBING event would bring in

Posted by grungebob (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone who has never had a septic tank doesn't know the real purpose of buttermilk.

Posted by niderbip (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

when taxes go up, i hope everyone will at least post that Pollard was correct.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sandbagger, I'm reasonably sure that you meant ROCK Climbing.

:)

You mean for establishing climbing routes on the bluffs? You are way too premature to be asking me for figures. All I've done is to make a broad suggestion. When I ask the city/county for funds or ask that it be put to a vote, THEN ask me for figures cuz by then there will be a plan.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Truthfully, OGD, we shouldn't take the attitude that political connections are a good reason to deny our right to a clean environment to ourselves. Is that a Waste Managment facility? Who owns it? Mississippi is a red state in a blue administration and I would think that would provide some leverage for your situation.

I'd do a search on all the newspapers in the states where the principals reside to see if they attended any functions with the politicians they donated to, and what those functions were and the purpose of them.

If it is a real nuisance it can be stopped and the court is bound to protect you and the sheriff is as well. The sheriff is our common law protector, as chief law enforcement official in the county the sheriff has more power than even federal authorities if he chooses to exercicse his power like some of out friends in Plaquemine Parish did.

You wouldn't have to be nasty about it, but even politicians should expect to play by the same rules the rest of us are forced to. Of course there is always the fear of political recrimination but that is a criminal act if it can be documented and convincingly presented to a common law jury, which you have a right to in Mississippi in any case involving over $20.00

If I were you I would begin documenting when the nuisance occurs and taking samples of the creek water. If possible, take samples above and below where you suspect the problem is originating, and have two witnesses go with you. There might be an environmental group in the state willing to help collect samples and other evidence.

I'd look up the corporate papers of the company in question and research each of the individual members and look into who they made campaign donations to.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, good advice.

But concerning where it originates, there ain't no question.

:)

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If we are brave enough to climb up the front of that church in Rodney and dig that cannonball out and run the gauntlet between Rodney and Washington, to enter federally occupied territory to deliver that cannonball to Mr. Lincoln, we should be brave enough to engage representatives of our own state, who ought to have some brotherly love for us.

If they do not love us enough to care for our concerns, then we should engrave their names on that cannonball as a treasonous mark of shame to the valiant men of Mississippi and other courageous men of the south who fought external tyranny, giving up their lives and possessions for their beliefs, digging graves for their wives and children, husbands, sons, and daughters.

Posted by damifino (Gale Coleman) on November 3, 2009 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Marty, You need to start a daily (or weekly) column in the ND. I would be willing to bet their subscriptions would double! What a hoot you are! When are you going to write that book? Your talents are being wasted.

Posted by damifino (Gale Coleman) on November 3, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hated to see The Churchhill Republican out of "circulation"

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's coming back damifino. As soon as traceriders.com comes online it will be linked through there. And thanks for your support!

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I intend to make my first advertising account the Democrat.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, you are gonna have to be more clear with your writing. I spent 45 minutes trying to understand your post cuz I figured by "Washington" you meant the REAL Washington a miles west of Natchez.

I'd love for Kevin to get himself an investigative reporter that would be willing to take a little walk with me one day.

:)

Posted by ilovenatchez2 (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I say use Duncan Park more efficiently and affordably.

Here's how - get RID of the old nine holes which are in horrible shape but require large maintenance dollars.

Utilize the new nine holes and have simply a GREAT nine-hole course at Duncan Park with more maintenance dollars used there, but not nearly what it costs to maintain a crappy 18.

Then, use the land where the old nine exists for more ball fields, pool, rec center, etc...

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hehe... No, I meant the one occupied by federalist forces OGD. Not the real one where they hung that poor entrepreneur who shot Hamilton.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ilovenatchez2, I appreciate your desire to reduce the number of golf holes at Duncan Park. But I'd really like to see all of them gone. The news lately has said that American men are becoming more effiminate and they believe that it comes from the amount of female hormones being dumped into our water supplies. Why put a golf club into a man's hands and throw fuel onto the fire?

EnKiKur, Oops. He didn't get hung.

Posted by grewupnatchez (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

southernbelle, what does pollard being a used car salesman have to do with anything? The man has to make a living too. And he sells new cars also. contrary to popular belief, he's an honest man and just likes to put everything out there on the table. at least he had the kahunas to tell that person on the phone the reality of the situation that taxes will go up. wake up people, where do you think this money really will come from?! YOUR POCKETS!!!!! duh.

Posted by grewupnatchez (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"County supervisor Mike Lazarus is convinced the county can pay for a recreation complex’s construction on its own provided the city and school district agrees to pay for the upkeep."

My next point here...how are they expecting the school district to pay for all of the upkeep when NASD is already making huge budget cuts. From West to NHS, they lose a little more money every year. The high school is still using textbooks from the 80s in some classes. Get real here people. The school district won't be able to afford this. They can barely afford what they've got now.

Posted by time4change (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear Mr. Enki, I'm afraid I have injured your feelings, while it was never my intention to do so. The location of your house makes it very valuable and sought after, so I'm sure you can get what you've got into it. I wish you the best of luck on selling your house, but my house hunting is now in a different area.

The Epic of Gilgamesh is a very fascinating tale.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are right OGD, there I go rewriting history already in my zeal to show how victimized we Democratic-Republicans are. I guess I've been hanging around too many Democrats.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No, time4change, you didn't hurt my feelings. I understood your meaning- I was just informing anyone who might be watching that might think I am going to give my house away that that is not the case. Plus, you were right, 305 North Magnolia is a portal for annunakii and that makes it worth about $20,000 more. They don't mind paying a toll charge, and it's steady revenue as they come and go frequently.

Posted by niderbip (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lose 9 holes at Duncan Park?

NO WAY. Remember how we were told way back when we needed to add 9 holes to attract all those conventions ?????

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 3, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, that northern aggressor Jerry Yonkman has challenged my supremacy in the scooter market by inviting me to a group 50cc ride Nov 8, departing from his store at 12:00 noon. I don't know what he's up to, but I'm sure it's something tricky. Do you want to ride with me that day and help keep an eye on him? We are going to be examining a rally course for a later race- I'm not going to show him the shortcuts we'll use in the race but I suppose it's only neighborly to show him the course itself beforehand.

Posted by tiredoflosers (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THere is room now!!! Get ride of the old CHOO_CHOO! And make a field. The parking is already paved. Move the fence back at the back field and they will come!! From all over!!! 4 regulation fields is all you need for $ touriments $

Posted by NatchezBooster (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Face it people, the City can't pay for the upkeep and maintenance of CITY HALL, let alone an entire recreation complex with an INDOOR POOL. You've all lost your minds. If you don't believe me, go to City Hall and take a look around. It's filthy, the upstairs restroom is out of order (as is the water fountain by the planning department), there's so much mold upstairs that people with asmatha can't go up there, the software and computer systems are unbelieveably out of date, there's so much junk stacked everywhere it looks like a dump.

Do you REALLY think this administration can pay for UPKEEP? Keep on kidding yourselves.

Posted by OldGrandDad (anonymous) on November 3, 2009 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

EnKiKur, the offer is much appreciated but I'm in the position of preparing for hunting season. I read recently that Mississippi has too many deer and I'm figuring to help do my part.

But I'm also trying to get on the committee to help reintroduce wolves to the Homochitto forest. That should help. They (the wolves) have done wonders for the Yellowstone country. I figure they would help cut our deer numbers considerably and then I could conserve my lead supplies for the inevitable war.

I hope your race doesn't go through Jefferson County. Your road signs on your gravel roads are non-existent. I was up there a few weeks ago. And I'd be up there still if not for my little tomtom gadget.

Posted by EnKiKur (Marty Ellerbe) on November 4, 2009 at 4:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OGD, we don't use road signs up there for a very good reason- federal revenue agents. Why make it easy for them? If there is someplace in Jefferson County you want to go, please just call Brer Rabbit and we will send a guide out there to you.

Have you visited the new Presbethanol Refinery off White Road up there? The Sisters of Cannonsburg Presbyterians for Progress are running it.

"Feeling lost, without direction?"
"Don't know which way to go?"
"Put a litte Predestination in your tank"
"Presbethanol"

Just follow those signs and turn at the arrow if you want to visit the refinery. You'll have to stop and the cattle gap and honk your horn 3 shorts and 2 longs- they'll come out and unlock the chain. Just stand in in front of your truck with your hands up while you receive the blessing to enter.