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The Mississippi River completely covers the base of Silver Street. The Isle of Capri has moved closer to land and further south to dock at D.A. Biglane Street.
River is a sight to see
Published Monday, April 7, 2008
NATCHEZ — With flood waters lapping over the base of Silver Street and encroaching the bottom of Roth Hill Road, Natchez has a new tourist attraction.
But this time, it’s the locals, not the tourists, who are most fascinated.
A stream of cars and people has been filing down Silver Street and Roth Hill Road to get a first hand glance for a few days now. Sunday evening, the water stood at 53.29 feet above gauge zero in Natchez. The predicted crest is 56.
Teri Taylor and Walt Roddy were out taking pictures of the river Sunday afternoon.
They moved to Natchez two years ago and have never seen the river so swollen.
In fact, Taylor said when they moved here the river was at an all-time low, and seeing the opposite end of the spectrum is surprising.
“I can’t believe it’s the same river,” she said.
Taylor said she is not personally threatened by the river on the rise, as she lives on high grounds.
“We do worry about business and economic impact,” she said, however.
With Pilgrimage in its last week and the Delta Queen slated for one more voyage, she said she’s worried tourism could be hampered.
On the other hand, she said, the high waters could bring more visitors in just out of curiosity.
Thomas Oliver strolled down the base of Silver Street to take pictures with his camera phone.
Oliver has lived in Natchez for 18 years and has seen this before.
“I’ve seen it once since I’ve been here,” he said. “I am concerned about it getting higher because it can cause damage to the area.”
Oliver said he is worried about washout problems.
Billy Joe Washington brought his wife Roberta down to Silver Street to check out the river.
He’s lived in Natchez all of his life and said he’s seen the waters high before.
But even then, it wasn’t as bad as it is now, he said back then the water only came up to where the sandbags are now — which are now underwater.
“It’s a phenomenon to me,” he said. “To be honest, there are some things a man can do about some things and there are some things a man can’t do anything about. You’ve got to live with the law of nature.”
Kristine Wiley and her daughter Brooke came over from Vidalia to see the water and she feels the same way Washington does.
“It’s got it’s own personality,” she said about the river.
She’s not worried about it being on the rise, she’s lived through worse.
“I’m not really worried because I lived in Jonesville during the ’73 floods,” she said.
Ronnie Blackwell, who’s lived in Natchez his entire life, said he’s seen the waters rise this high before.
“I really didn’t expect it this year,” he said. “It’s just wild.”
He is also among the crowd that isn’t worried about river ramifications.
“It’s handled it before,” he said of Natchez.
Comments
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 12:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sunday evening i put my kayak in st. Cathrine creek near S&T
Tire and paddled up to the indian village and then i turned to go back down streem and it was very peaceful and beautiful until icame around a bend and a lady on top of the bluff saw me...
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
...and got a pistol and pointed it at me and shot (i guess over my head) She then laughed and said she didn't see me. I was in a 12 foot boat with an orange shirt on less than 200 feet from her. I called 911 and started paddeling back and then...
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
... Some men in a motor boat started following me so i paddled harder fearing for my life they got beside me and wanted me to stop i just paddled harder and the guy in the boat got mad and said 'do you have a problen with my wife shooting in the county'
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When i met with the officers that 911 had waiting i was able to ID the lady to them and they found them very quickly. I will pick the report monday and keep the ND informed since they have been doing stories about making the creek floatable.
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 1:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry for spamming this commet section but i want you all to know that along with the dangers of the high water there is also the danger of IDIOTS along the bluff of Woodville dr. That i was informed is in city limits. So be very careful on the water.
Posted by lambchop (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 1:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am glad you posted. I can hardly believe what happened and am glad you are safe. I can't believe people would be so stupid. I guess she wanted to "dead" rather than in the creek behind her house and the husband trying to run you down.
Look forward to hearing more, take care.
Posted by imoonu2004 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
wow, that's pretty crazy.
Posted by ingodwetrust (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
OMG!! At first I thought this was going to turn into a little joke....I can't believe this happened to you! Thank God you didn't have a Heart Attack~~~I would have!LOL!!
I hope the police do more than just give them a slap on the wrist!, that could have killed you and no one would have ever known the truth!
You might want to invest in a bullet-proff vest, that sounded like something out of a horror movie!
Thank God your Safe and didn't get hurt...I guess the high water...bring's out all kinds of nut's!!
Please stay Safe & Bullet-Proff too! :-)
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
After a restless night of trying to sleep with my heart still racing... I've thought... I'm glad i didn't have a gun myself it could have been a showdown. I have never felt that my life was in this much danger.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Whew, LeadPaint. Gooooooodness!!!!! Unfortunately our fair area is infiltrated with foolish freaks who get off on the folly of feeding you a "fear feast".
I'm so glad you called 911 and are safe. Keep paddling and watch out for freakin' fools!!!
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Deliverance at St. Catherine Creek! Yikes.
Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(Leadpaint) Since the subject(S) have been identified, I hope that you pursuit the matter all the way to court?
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Did they ask you if you had a "purty mouth"? LOL
Posted by Negotiator (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm glad it wasn't me... I'd be floating down the creek face down or in jail.
I'm delighted cooler head(s) prevailed... yours. Great job.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lead apint, Natchez has always seemed to be "Flypaper for Freaks" Glad you are Ok. I hope they send her away for a while.
What did her redneck hubby have to say to you after the police got there?
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
People are going to see the river because they do not have to go far to see it right now....lol....it is right at their feet.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Leadpaint- Maybe she was trying to show out some shooting skills so the guys would like her. She needs to be prosecuted for attempted murder. Then she can go show off her skills to a bunch of nice, young ladies. Good luck.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I meant lead Paint...sorry for the typo...I never took typing.
Posted by beammeupscotty (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am surprised the cops even bothered to come.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They may have been hiding something, Leadpaint. You surely had an angel with you. Thank God, you are okay.
Posted by Maat_Kheru (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
LeadPaint, are the creeks and waterways open to the public for kayaking ? Or were you on her private property ? Even so, it is hard to understand why anyone would shoot at a person without provocation. A gun being fired at a another person, even in the county, could be justified only in self defense. Can't figure the husband either ! Glad you escaped harm. I hope you will update us on how this turns out. Kayaking could be another tourist draw as well as a wonderful sport for residents.
Posted by emimag2 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That is a really crazy situation.. Glad that you survived to warn all of us about it!! You should not let the cops forget about this incident. She could have been shooting just to be shooting or she could have actually been aiming at you.. Maybe you will never know, but just be glad that you are safe and make sure that she gets more then a slap on the wrist.. Maybe next time it will make someone else think to look just a little more closely before they start blind shooting.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lead paint, your the idiot. My wife was shooting at gar in the creek. RIGHT BELOW HER. The bullet was never anywhere near you. And she did not laugh. She said she was sorry she did not see you. If you would not have been such a panzy about talking to me in the boat I would have explained it to you. But you had to blow it all out of porportion.
You were not 200 feet from us. More like 350 yards in the shadows. Remember it was late in the evening.
Anyone of you posting about us being idiots. come to my house and I'll show you the whole senerio. Just come to the end of woodville dr.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lead paint you were also tresspassing. But that is no concern for me. People ride fourwheelers (when the water is down) and boats when the water is up past our house. Never bothered us before. Til now when a drama queen pasted by on a nice sunday evening.
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Isn't woodvile rd in the city limits?
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
natchezbum no offense as I shoot gar as well, but if you live in the city limits as leadpaint claims then it is illegal for your wife to be shooting a gun in the city limits. If this is so maybe you could find her a better venue to do such as this. Please correct his errors in his story for all of us if you will.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
redusmfan he would not talk to me. and the cops would not let me see him. Boy you people really jump to conclusions. One lunatic hears a 22 shot and stirs up the whole community
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
incidently quess why the cops didn't arrest anyone. They go with the side they believe to be telling the truth.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My foot really tastes good!.......Not! My apologies to you and your wife, Natchezbum1.
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm still waiting on an answer to my question....
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
fired i have about 12 acres. got annexed as i found out today awhile back. No nieghbors. and the other side the creek is county. A wopping 40 yards away and it is county. come see. You would understand
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks drawspainting
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ha ha I never have understood the city/county lines. I'll just take your word for it. I am just trying to see both sides of the story before I form my opinion.. Thank you for answering me. I'm just glad that your wife did not accidentally shoot him since she did not see him. That would have been horrible. I bet she will be more careful next time! I know I would be!!!!
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
my wife is very safe with fire arms. She has hunted all her life. and prides herself on safty. A man in a kayak coming around a corner 400 yards away in the shadow of trees and not making it know he was there is the problem. he got around the corner about 50 yards when she shot. All he had to do was make his presence known and everything would have been fine. But like I said he was a drama queen!
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am fairly sure that land is part of the city thats why I asked. I am still confussed on why you went after the guy in the boat, you say it was to talk to him, but why didn't your wife talk to him when the shooting happened? I agree this story was stretched from what really happened, but you have to be careful when shooting. I have been on other bodies of water and people like to come out and shoot on water for some reason. Its not fun being on the other end of a "gun range" on the water, especially when bullets ricochet.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mike the shot was staight down from a 25 ft cliff. Me and a friend were already in the water on the boat. I went to explain to him what happened and he would not talk to me. My wife also tried to talk to him and he would not. I decided to quit trying when he shouted at me PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME. There were not even any firearms in the boat. I did not get mad. I just know you can't deal with ignorance.
Posted by RackyBobby (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was there also with natchezbum. The guy wouldnt stop and talk to us. We just wanted to tell him that she was shooting at the gar and not at him. Plus she was shooting straight down off the cliff. If there would have been bullets flying around like LeadPaint had said then good old Racky Bobby wouldnt have been there. I think hes been sniffing lead paint too long!
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sounds like leadpaint is a fruitcake....if he is that scared of people in the woods then he should take up another hobby...maybe something indoors so he want be scared of his shadow....what a loser to accused these fine people of this
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And by the way the cops were very professional and courteous. Thanks guys. You are not given the respect due to someone that has to put up with what you do.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
thanks shedevil
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i bet he was wearing floaties on his arms
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no just a ron paul stick on his kayak
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 6:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
meant sticker
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I know the lady that was .the gar and if she was shooting at the guy that had to many lead paint chips, he wouldn't be whinning on this web site. I know this because my father taught both of us safety first and then how to shoot and she is an excellent shot and very knowledgeable about firearms. all this is BS hang in there sis we luv u, buck
Posted by Greenfields (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ha! I knew there was more to the story than what Lead was saying. I was actually thinking that it was probably something along the lines of what natchezbum said. Leadpaint probably wears a speedo! But, about it being trespassing, I am almost positive that if he stayed in the water and he was in water that was backed up because of the river, he was perfectly legal. Where the river floods/backsup that area becomes an extension of the river. I'm feel sure that this right, if not, feel free to correct me!
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
green, has to be a navitagable stream year round. My buddy at the fed wildlife agency says so. I can't argue with him. He has the ticket book!
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I KNOW EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE SITUATION EXCEPT LEAD PAINT AND I KNOW FOR AFACT THIS LADY WOULD NOT DO WHAT SHE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF LEAD PAINT NEEDS TO STAY OFF THE WATER IF HE IS THAT SCARED A GAR MAY GET HIM
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i kinda figured he had an obama sticker on his canoe
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There are a bunch of crazies in this town.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
how so not from nat?
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree fully with leadpaint!!!!! (shedevil))as soon as the 911 call is released we'll see who is the fruitcake.
There is no way on earth a sane woman would fire a gun towards a creek with a 40 ft. kayake in it. If her eye sight is bad she didn't need to be shooting the gun.
((leadpaint)) has kayaked ever creek around & has never encountered someone shooting at him.
((CEIDT)) if your Daddy taught the safety rules of firing a gun did he mention never to shoot it when there is someone that could possibly be shot?
There is more to this story, but it is NOT ((leadpaint's)) story it's the pistol packing idiot that is irresponsible & should be held accountably for endandering someones life.
((natchezbum1)) you defend your wife all day, but like I said the truth will come out on the 911 tapes. You are also guilty of intimidating the man when you saw he didn't want to talk you should have left it at that.
((RackyBobby))He didn't say there were bullets flying around only that she shot once. I think you & you friends need to get your stories straight. As far a sniffing something I would come nearer thinking the three of you sniffed something because of the way you were behaving. Or else you're plain STUPID & DANGEROUS!
Posted by Greenfields (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I want one of those 40ft 'Yaks!
Posted by dixiemama (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((OHARA)) very stupid comment. I don't think ((leadpaint)) was afraid of a gar getting him, only a woman with a gun & two maniacs trying to make him stop.
As for you knowing the lady & saying she would not have done it, how many people are in prison for killing one person? This could have easily been her first.
Who can honestly say they would have stopped to see what they wanted especially when one let him know he was her husband? I admit I would have been scared of what their intentions were.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overthehill take your pills your lost again. forty foot kayak lead paint said it was twelve.
play your 911 tapes, they will hear me trying to talk to this idiot in a sain and rational way. then he hollars please don't shoot me.
What is he your son, you must be proud of chicken little.
This is so blown out of proportion it is unbelivable.
And lead paint has still kayaked and not been shot at.
You all need to move back to the north.
Posted by Greenfields (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
natchezbum, Thanks for the info. I guess I've never had anyone official tell me that it's legal to go into flooded areas, just something I've always thought. I probably won't stop boating up creeks, just will pay heed if anyone tells me I'm trespassing.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dixie mama you have no idea what you are saying. Why are we going to shoot someone in the creek. You don't know us. Lots of people in town do. and they know better. Its great to think you know the story. But in realty you don't. Ok we're n the city, the county line is 40feet away. My wife shot a gun and the coward in the kayak was at least 350 yards away. (walk it of and see what you can see in the shadows) she did not see him and that is that. he was never in danger. soon as she saw him she apologized, but he hauled ass and would not acknowlegde us. With numerous attemps to contact him very politely I left. Noone tried to run him down. He is in a paddled boat, we were in a power boat. If I had wanted to run him down we would have. Tried to make contact is all. It's amazing the police believed us and you don't. Go figure!
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
greenfield most people don't care if you go and ride. Just like us, I know people look for some thing to do. I don't care if people ride by in a boat or fourwheeler like I said earlier. This is just a case that someone is screaming wolf and it ain't so. Come up st catherine and wave at us when you pass by. Love to see people have a good time. we all need some where to play.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I realzed my mistake, I meant 12 ft.
Speaking of pills is that why you are in such a secluded place with guns laying around? Maybe you have a little business going & have to protect it. Just a thought since you brought up me needing to take my pills.
You stupid moran when someone yells "please don't shot me" what does that tell you? If nothing more you sickos got a thrill out of frightening an innocent citizen.
As for him being my son maybe he is & maybe he's not, but I would be much prouder of him than I would the three of you. As for him being chicken little what does that make you the big bad wolf?
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This whole thing sounded flakey to me from the get-go, and isn't it strange how everyone went from loving leadpaint and feeling sorry for him to the opposite side. Notfrom is right, there are some strange people in this town. (Of course Dixiemama, you know I am not talking about you or me! LOL)
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DIXIEMAMA YOU HAVE JUMPED ON A BAN WAGON YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU KNOW EITHER PARTY INVOLVED AND I SAY AGAIN THIS LADY WOULD DO NOTHING TO HURT ANYONE DONT SAY THINGS ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DONT KNOW
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no over the hill i'm not the big bad wolf, just a business man that likes the fact i live in a country where morans like you do not rule.
When the little coward yelled at us i left him alone, like i said you can't deal with ignorance. We tried to be rational and all he could do was not talk to us. Teach your son better comunication skills. He might get alittle farther in life.
I wish you could have talked to the police here at my house. Then you would have a different point of view. Course you living in tx probably doesnt help
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I stand corrected... instead of a bunch of crazies in this town I should have said a bunch of hateful bullies in this town. Shame.
I mean, what would you do if you would have been in his situation -- quietly floating down the creek, then BAM. Yep, that's right... every single one of you (with any sense) would have hauled butt out of there. Period.
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:22 p.m.
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Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no not from natchez the sain person would have said hey i'm over here. and everyone would have gone on their marry way. You haven't been around hunting or guns much have you. Rule one is know where your bullet is going and what lies beyond it. SHe did. Nothing but water. Straight down shot from 25 feet. The bullet is going nowhere but down. No skips or ricochets.
Posted by Greenfields (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Overthehill's comments are so out of whack that I'm starting to think that he/she is just having fun with us?
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That's not the point I am making. It doesn't matter what your wife's intent was, the fact of the matter is someone heard a gun shot and got the heck out of there. And now you are calling them a coward. I don't see how that makes him a coward.
And yes, I have been around guns...not to mention, mortars, sniper fire and IEDs...so don't give me your redneck rules of gun safety.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
and not from natchez i'm not a bully, excuse me for trying to set the record sraight by talking to this man. No mean words, i was very polite, and he would not talk to me. I hope I'm there when old f--t 60 hears the 911 tape. Then I could get his appology.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
not redneck rules, you should take a gun safty course. They give them free of charge at the sherriffs shooting range. You could learn something
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I hope a car doesnt back fire outside his window tonight. Or someone else will have to talk to the cops, and the cops will have to make another report for nothing
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
did you read my comment? I am around guns. I know all about gun safety.
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NOTFROMNATCHEZ YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE AND YOU ARE A WANT A BE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN AROUND GUNS AND YOU DON'T KNOW ANY BODY INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER BEST KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT OR PEOPLE WILL KNOW HOW STUPID YOUR REALLY ARE
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
apparently not, you called one of the top ten rules to gun safety a red neck rule!
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
CEIDT--How can you call me stupid? Do you even know what punctuations are?
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NOTFROMYOUHAVETOTIPEEVERTHANGLIKETHISSOHEUNDERSTAND
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ITHINKYOUARECORRECTELVISSSITHINKIWILLTYPEALLMYPOSTSLIKETHISFROMNOWONANDNOTPUTANYPUNCTUATIONS
Posted by LeadPaint (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow bum, it looks like you've been hitting the refresh button all day long!
After seeing all the cocky and arrogant comments you have made above, it should illustrate to everyone exactly what kind of demeanor you had when you were pursuing me in your boat.
WHY would I stop to chat with two guys who were following me, asking me if I had a problem, right after one of their wives had just aimed a gun towards me and fired it?
Bum - how do you even KNOW what happened when you were DOWNSTREAM, around the bend??
You are going to say whatever you want about how close I was but I was close enough to identify the woman to the police. I SAW her look RIGHT AT ME and then stand up from where she was sitting and GO GET her gun, from about 10 ft. away from where she had been sitting. She came back and pointed it right at me and fired it! That quick!
If she could see the gar in the water, she most certainly should have been able to see me, in my kayak AND in the BRIGHT ORANGE SHIRT that I was wearing! I KNOW she HAD to see me because she AIMED right in my direction. Whether she hit me or not, she was aimed right in my direction, at about 200 feet away from the bluff's edge.
Bum - it looks like the most you have to your defense is namecalling and acting like a bully and knowing people in high places.....
All I was trying to do that day was enjoy a day on the water. Not get shot at! How is someone "supposed" to react to getting SHOT AT for no reason???? By the way - NO - I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMEONE DISCHARGING THEIR FIREARM. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMEONE DISCHARGING THEIR FIREARM IN MY DIRECTION!
You're obviously just the type people who manipulate truth to their favor and will attack anyone who doesn't look, act or speak the way you'd like for them to.
By the way - I don't know where you're getting your "information" from, but I was BORN AND RAISED right here in the MISS-LOU.
You know, your wife knows, I know and God knows what happened.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
notfrom natchez in the time you were around mortars and ieds you must have been able to sprint like Jesse Owens with all that running
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey lead, maybe you should have just yelled, "Hey, I'm over here!" like he suggested in one of his earlier posts -- haha... yeah, that's what I'm going to do if someone shoots at me and misses... yell "Hey I'm over here!"
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Elvisss--Maybe I should have done that when I was around mortars and IEDs.
For some reason, I don't think Natchezbum would last long.
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LEADPAINT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT MY SISTER SHE WOULD NEVER POINT A GUN IN ANYONES DIRECTION OR PUT ANYONE IN HARMS WAY IF YOU EVER TOOK THE TIME TO TALK TO HER OR HER HUSBAND YOU WOULD UNDERSTAN HOW WRONG YOU ARE . IF YOU AINT FROM NATCHEZ YOU DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lead you are crazy. There was never a gun pointed at you. Number one my wife is a better shot than that. The bullet went straight in the water below her. you where in a silent boat making no noice. You ever been snuk up on. That is all that happened. Sorry you happened around the corner when she shot. But send someone over if you dont want to come yourself ( bring the cops to) and I'll show you the distance with my lasar range finder. It is not any 200 feet. More like 350 yards. I shot it myself.
I figured you were from somewhere else because the cops said it sounded like you you were. I don't know because when you where in the cop car at my house you would not talk to us. Again any of you can come and check out the site on the grassy knole here at our house. Please come and see. I have nothing to hide, as the police found.
and who do i know in high places? don't remember that one.
You started the name calling, read your first posts!
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Your wife...your sister...it's all the same.
And by the way...thanks for the PERIOD you used. It must have been a typo.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm still wondering what the motive would be for my wife to shoot at someone in a boat in the creek. People pass by here everyday in the back water. WHY ARE WE NOT SHOOTING AT THEM? I quess she just hates kayaks.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
as for my demeanor lead, your right, I don't take someone saying things about the person Iove lightly. Do you?
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NOTFROMNATCHEZ GO TO BED THIS IS LOCAL HERE IS A PERIOD FOR YOU . YOU ARE IN SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, YOUR JUST NOISEY AND OHARA SAYS GONIGHT. STAY WITH SOMETHING YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT LEAD PAINT IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You are right CEIDT...I think it is time for me to go to sleep.
And for all the kids on here...take a lesson from CEIDT...
STAY IN SCHOOL!!!!
Posted by CEIDT (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i wish i knew where you were from probably here just to chicken to say so
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no takers on the scene of the crime?
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am not from Natchez. My wife is from Natchez and she warned me about people like you...I didn't believe her, but you are proving her right.
By the way, you must have pressed the caps lock button. by mistake ..it is on the left side of your keyboard...right above the <<shift>> key.
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Elvisss--you should be safe...that is unless you show up with a kayak strapped to your back.
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No thanks. Don't want to get shot.
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You got that right, and his wife shoots at people.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:34 p.m.
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Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ya'll dont get it. The police came and found we told the truth. I'm offering the opportunity for you to see. I welcome you. smart ass' and all!
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NOTFROMNtchez it is like we are battling with in each other and not talking about the problem at hand again i will say until you know the family we are talking about please dont say anything else negative again i will say this lady would not do what she has been accused of
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Be very, very quiet...it's Kayak hunting season.
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW,,,, what a story. Not trying to make light of either side of this. But I live out in the country. And during hunting season. I have bullets whiz over my head all the time. Pellets fall mysteriously out of the sky. I know they are not aiming at me. Just not paying attention, that there are houses scattered about in the area. Yep scares the heck out of me each time. I worry more for my family and critters.
I know everyone is emotional right now. And I know it scared this guy. But I still don't think she was trying to shoot him. Well that would just be kinda dumb. Even if she was aiming toward him and had seen him. What if she had missed and hit him. I just think maybe she didn't see him. And even if she did and meant to shoot in his direction. Why apologize for it. If I was shooting to scare somebody, I would just laugh and walk off.
So I just feel this was an accident all the way around. Very glad no one got hurt. I'm sure it scared everyone involved.
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry, but I'm not going anywhere near your house. I mean, would you go walking around Holiday Apartments? Same difference. You could easily get shot at either place.
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
thank you whisper you know what some of us are talking about if you are as i am a hunter you know all of us have taken hunter safety and we are not out to harm anyone
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well sure I would walk around Holiday Apartments. I took a load of gifts and food to a poor family there one xmas. Most people that have seen me post from time to time. Know that I am a very simple thinking person. So If I want to go somewhere I will go. When your time is up, it's up. Not trying to sound flippant. But you just don't have control over everything. And if you try, then you forget to live.
Posted by BurningStar (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe she was shooting in his direction to scare him, for the fun of it? It sounds like some "house of 1000 corpses" scenario.. I keep expecting to hear that the guys had on clown makeup and the girl was wearing daisy-dukes & laughing incessantly.
Anyone can see from the way this woman's husband is acting, that they probably weren't very friendly. The 'victim' was obviously terrified. I SURE WOULDN'T stop to talk to people who were acting like that.
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ohara's nanny lived in Holiday apartments and went there everyday many days no problems all of this is getting out of hand the problem is one sissy hearing a gun shot and freaking out because he is wanting to stir a stink thats all there is to it leave it alone it is over no one was hurt, quit all the stupid stuff.
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
burningstar you are in the dark too stay out of it smoke another joint and go to bed
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Now that we have moved on. I don't hunt but I sure like to fish. Can't even find a place to sit on the bank anymore. Not making fun, but did anyone else laugh. When a few days back the front page picture showed them stacking those sand bags. Ok, maybe it was just me. The next day they were under water. And today gone. They might as well stand back and let the river do what it is going to do. And hope for the best.
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
whisper i cannt believe you cant find a place to fish there is water every where
Posted by sparky018 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmm, I don't know the real story, but it seems like it was an accident and they tried appologizing! Thank God noone got hurt! I just think he should of brought attention to himself when the accident occured! Like you said earlier, if they were after him to harm him, well, he was in a kayak and the other was in a motor boat! Wander who would of actually won that one if they meant harm him? Hope all of this gets settled soon cause our officers actually have REAL problems they need to be solving and working on!
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah, it's not that I am cheap. But I hate buying those expensive license. Plus I can't launch a boat myself anymore. Sometimes I just want to get my cane pole and can of worms. And just sit on a bank somewhere. I usually throw them all back anyway. Hubby want eat nothing but catfish fellet anyway. I just love sitting there, with my own thoughts. Taking in the scenary.
Posted by BurningStar (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OHARA - you don't know if I'm in the dark or in the light or whether I smoke dope or not, so do the world a favor and go gnaw your fingertips off. Then I'll go to bed.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 11:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This story just aint right. I mean cmon...where would you put in a motor boat or a kayak near S & T Tire? If this story were true, the wife with the gun would be appologizing along with her spouse instead of calling leadpaint a coward and acting all ugly about skeering him half to death. And also, if this is a true story, Natchez may need to reconsider turning that area into a water park with all those gar shooters up on the cliff.
Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is Saint Catherine's Creek considered a navigable stream today?
Posted by OHARA (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BURNINGSTAR I KNOW I AM IN THE LIGHT AND I DONOT SMOKE DOPE YOU ARE WAY OFF OF THE SUBJECT
Posted by Username (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I personally know LeadPaint i never knew his username on here though but i have paddled with him before he is a great guy and fun to paddle with(and YES an avid Ron Paul supporter). I believe that he was doing nothing wrong he's the guy that wears the orange and always has a life jacket in his boat no matter how deep the water is.
He told me his story today when i saw him and i was shocked to hear it.It does kinda sound odd,like he told me he didn't think the lady was trying to murder him he thought they were just trying to scare him into leaving.
what he told me was that when the people come after him he became even more scared.He said that he was on speakerphone with 911 and they were instructing him to not speak or to stop. he said that the 911 call is recorded and it will prove everything.
I cannot belive that you people on here are basically taunting and calling him a chicken for telling other boaters about safety concerns in the area. it's not like he gave any names or any exact address to anyone,he just said along the Woodville drive bluffs.
He told me the names of the people and alot of you would be shocked if you actually knew who this careless gun shooting woman and her husband are, they are local names that alot of you know.
if i see him tomorrow i'm gonna see if he wants to float the creek,lol.
I told him that i paddled in from the river last week and went past where this happened at it's right by the sign on the creek that says something about if you tresspass you will be "HURT". i think they mean business!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by ijohnson (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 1:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, my . . . maybe LeadPaint should replace the "Ron Paul" sticker on his paddle with one that's more palatable. Or, stay out of places posted with signs like the above-referenced one because they just might put some lead in his pants! But seriously, this is not a laughing matter. I'm so glad LeadPaint was not injured or killed -- we all know how quick things can turn ugly and escalate into an uncontrollable situation. I don't know who the waters flowing down St. Catherine Creek belongs to, or the water behind these folks' house, but I don't think it should be used as a shooting gallery when other people use it recreationally.
Speaking of guns, gun safety, etc., I was saddened to hear that Charlton Heston had passed away. He was a wonderful actor and human being. I loved him in almost every movie I've watched him perform in. However, I think his greatest feat and biggest accomplishment was his ablility to maintain a happy marriage for over 60 years . . . in Hollywood; he should be bestowed with a Medal of Honor for that alone. May his soul rest in peace!
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW.....this is just crazy...if leadpaintpaint needs a shoulder to cry on i will lend him mine...ive been in the woods in the water & have had bullets pass close to me..but i understand that i am in the woods & everbody does not know where i am at all times...this looks like an honest mistake that has been blown out of proportion...these are good honest hard working folks leadpaint...an by no means were you ever in danger by these people...i think its time that you might want to take up tennis lesson...something else i was wondering about leadpaint...did you have to change your drawers before you got into the police car
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 6:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
username what do you mean careless? As for the sign I have no idea what you are talking about. That is not on my place. And as I stated earlier we do not care if people ride by our house ( in a boat or on a fourwheeler). And I welcome you to come by today and talk to me. Since you know me it would be nice to see who you are. I aleady told these people where I live and invited them to come see. As for the name calling, your probably right. But this idiot makes us out to be half wits running around shooting at everything that moves. Remember shooting is a sport and some people like to shoot like some people like to kayak.
And I will say it for the last time, if he would have listened to us this would have never happened. I did not try to bully anyone, both my wife and I tried to apologize to him and he would not talk to us. I'm done with this.
Posted by 3on23 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I loved the comment about "she looked right at me". I ride motorcycles and can't tell you the times I have had drivers who "looked right at me" still either pull out on, or turn in front of a 600 pound motorcycle with a headlight on bright. It's been a few years since I have been to this location but I do feel that the time of day, sun on the water, bend in the creek and foliage growth could all have played a part in her just "not seeing ", leadpaint. As a kayaker myself I do know that the perspective from a kayak is extremly different than the perspective from the bank.
Posted by justthefactsman (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That is awfull close to the city limits to be shooting a gun in the first place. IMO. BUT I ain't James Justice Law Dog so. ... Hope you guys get all this straight. I would like to get into Kayaking and after looking at Google earth and the Creek, it looks like a fun place to take a Kayak.
Posted by AverageJoe (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bum if yall were doing nothing wrong ,shooting guns on your property in the 'county' and at the time yall didnt know he was saying she shot in his area what exactly were you going to explain when you followed him? And yeah i've seen a sign in that area about tresspassers getting hurt. 2nd point : how is this creek project going to work if you are tresspassing the whole time? Sounds like the gov will end up using eminent domain and take your backyards!
Posted by GopherBaroque (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Did you know that even in the county there are ordinances against shooting in a residential area?
Posted by rocketman (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
why is it okay for OHARA to accuse Burningstar of smoking dope, but not okay when Burningstar accuses her of the same? Sounds like CEIDT, OHARA and natchezbum think they are ABOVE doing the safe thing and reserving firearms for protection OR hunting IN SEASON at a hunting camp!
Posted by rocketman (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And NO, leadpaint, you are not a coward for leaving the area in a hurry....any SANE, unarmed person would have done the same. These people are the type that ONLY THEY are in the right...known ALL of them all my life.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It would be a tough shot to hit someone 300 yards away with a 22 rifle. Besides, why would she use a 22 when she could have used something more powerful (if she wanted to kill someone). This whole thing was blown WAY out of proportion.
Is this a supposed kayaking waterway? How many people kayak through here daily? Is this in city limits?
I really do not understand why someone would try to shoot someone else when they are
1. standing on their own property
2. using a 22 rifle
HOWEVER, natchezbum was making threats ON THIS WEBSITE earlier about coming to his house if anyone had a problem. That sounds to me like we are dealing with a bunch of lunnies.
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There are a bunch of CRAZIES in this town.
Posted by 3on23 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I disagree, it is very UNSAFE to reserve firearms for protection or hunting season. Keeping yourself familiar with your firearms by using target practice is safe. I really feel like this has been blown way out of proportion. Like they say there are 3 sides to every story yours, theirs and the truth. I really hope this all gets resolved and we do get the creek project in place for those who enjoy kayaking.
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't think that natchezbum was intending to make threats. I think he was just inviting anyone over to his house to see for theirselves their point of view from the site at which the incident occured. However, if I am incorrect then by all means I have no problems being corrected!
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well then let me correct you firered...
THEIRSELVES is not a word, it is themselves.
Sorry, had to do it!
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
my bad.. English was my least favorite subject in school.. I'm pretty good with grammar but sometimes those words just slip on through! Guess its all my Southern roots getting to me! LOL
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah, them durn southern roots, getcha every time!
Posted by Oracle (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It may not have occurred to Mr. Lead Paint that St. Catherine Creek is not a navigable waterway and therefore he was "TRESPASSING".
Get caught boating across the St. Catherine Creek National Wildlife Refuge during this flood and learn the hard way about "TRESPASSING".
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
Tell em ORACLE, but you are probably wasting your finger strength. LeadPaint believes he was the victim, so let's just all sympathize with him. Yesterday, he had all of us believing this horrible near death experience occurred while he was just minding his own business.
Yet, today, natchezbum has called to our attention what has really happened (some innocent fun on private property). Leadpaint was in the wrong place at the wrong time. If he wants to go Kayaking, go to the trace.
Posted by rocketman (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
obama-ask those kids that got shot in Baton Rouge last year by a stray bullet if they were innocent victims. Yes, they were...they were just out having fun on the Riverwalk, just minding their own business while some IDIOT was out shooting a gun and they got in the way of a stray bullet. Guns have no business being fired in a residential area (unless for protection). Go target practice at a target range.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If it were not a navigable waterway why wasn't ((leadpaint)) given a ticket for trespassing? Also why was ((natchezbum1)) riding in a motor boat if it is not a navigable waterway? Maybe it's just another example of how above the law he thinks he is.
((natchezbum1)) is now saying it was "Innocent fun" I don't call firing a gun at someone innocent. Makes you wonder what he will say next. He has several people that didn't even have an account until yesterday make one where they could post their stupid comment.
((natchezbum1)) just keep your stupid comments coming you are proving by each one what an idiot you, your wife & friend are. I have a feeling you had a very restlss night worring about everything closing in on your wife.
Posted by justthefactsman (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oracle, I thought that only MOTORIZED boats where prohibited on the refuge after the Natchez river guage read 30ft or higher. Didn't say anything about Non-Motorized boats. At least that is what I thought the 2007-08 St. Catherine creek wildlife refuge regulation booklet stated.
I will have to do somemore reading about the navigable waterways of Mississippi. I never knew you could not be on St Catherine creek. Heck we played there alot as kids.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
rocket man you know me but I don't know you. Care to elaborate on who you are? Should not matter since you have known me all my life. Do you think my wife would shoot at someone for no reason? And it was not a stray bullet, straight in the water like i said. Not in the air. And I will state it for the last time, anyone who wants to come see where we live and how it happened come with my blessing. It's in the city but in the country. County line is in the middle of the creek. 40 feet away. No neighbors just woods and creek
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
overhill sleep like a log. No tresspassing ticket because i haven't pressed them. I can ride in the steam, I own the land. and I didnot call it innocent fun. You connecting me with someone elses blog
Posted by dixiemama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((natchezbum1)) everyone you say seems to know you. I don't see anywhere ((leadpaint)) has given any names. Maybe this is not the first time this has happen & you feel people will take it for granted who you are.
I have a feeling your constant invitation for people to come see where the incident occured will not happen, only your so called friends would probably trust either of you. Any woman sitting on a bluff with a gun nearby is not looking for gar. She was giving this man a warning to stay away or just for the sheer sick reason to scare him. I'm sure half the population would be afraid to go there anymore. It's people like you & your wife that that put a damper on water sports.
She may be making comments under a username, but we don't know. I have some advice for you I would sleep with one eye open you may be her next gar target.
How do you know what she was shooting at when you were in the boat & she was sitting on the bluff?
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((natchezbum1)) you havn't pressed trepassing charges because he was not trespassing!
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A 22 rifle bullet would just leave a mere flesh wound, would barely scratch leadpaint.
Posted by Oracle (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Be assured Mr. LeadHead was trespassing, and knew it.
People like him will push that envelope while writing their poetry and smoking or sniffing whatever then become outraged because someone interferred with their PEACE.
He has blown this silly/nothing matter into something huge and likely will face trespassing charges, which he deserves. Obamayamamma is correct, go to the trace, or better yet, Kayak out across the refuge. I did it once, its pretty expensive.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A crime like this (if it were a crime) would have made the front page of the ND, not in the comments!
Maybe the woman didnt see him due to his long hair and ti-dye shirt!
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A few questions here:
1. How can he be trespassing if he is on a public waterway?
2. All of the city is still in the county, but I thought there were some different rules for fireworks and guns within the "city" limits?
3. I always have heard that if you shoot at something in the water, the bullet will have a richochet effect when it hits the water and without a lot of practice you won't hit what you shoot at. So was she just practicing, maybe?
4. What will the natchezbums do when/if the lakes are formed on the St. Catherine Creek?
Anyone out there care to answer?
Posted by triscuit (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Although the natchezbums do argue convincingly that it was a misunderstanding, there are some holes in their story. For instance, where is their property line? In the creek? Or top of bank? Did they say? And they didn't know their property was in the city limits? That annex is pretty old, isn't it? I'm not buying that one. I feel bad for leadpaint. They may not have been trying to kill him or even scare him, but what happened would have scared me. How reassuring to call 911 and have them wink and pat the back of the locals violating city ordinances. That must have felt like an episode of The Twilight Zone.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Or just a bad trip from sniffing leadpaint!
Posted by firered (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow oldmoney I'm so impressed! You own most of the land in Natchez... Give yourself a pat on the back! Oh wait you already did.. surprised you can reach your back with your big head not getting in the way.
Posted by southern_bell (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If only alot of you on here knew who this woman was, you would be laughing asking yourself,"" Did she shoot the gun before or after she had her evening cocktail !""
I have met this woman a couple of times when she would give garage sales and anyone who knew her would laugh.
I don't know (( Leadpaint )) but I have seen him on the river banks with his Kayak getting ready to go down the Miss. river and my kids would ask him questions and this guy seems to have a good head on his shoulders about safety. He said he and some friends have been doing this for years and camping out on the banks and I would trust him with my kids if they were ever invited to go with him.
I heard about what happen to him and I think it is a crying shame that a person can not enjoy a trip down a creek without some woman with a few drinks in her to shoot a gun at a ""gar"" in the water, when I heard from a police friend of mine it was suppose to be a "beaver"". Sounds to me she couldn't tell what is was. Was she planning on eating what she killed or killing it for fun?
The point to all this is, why was she shooting A gun in the first place? It would of been different if it was a BB gun, but a 22 is considered a "weapon". And if shot in the right spot it can do damage to a person. She needs to lay off the drinks and be more careful.
I'm just glad he was not hurt and "LEADPAINT" keep doing what you do oneday you can write about all the adventures you take and the CRAZIES you meet along the way!!!!
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
southernbell, you are a lowlife.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Telling the truth makes you a lowlife? Maybe in your life, but not in mine.
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
southernbelle you must be talking about someone else. Never had a garage sale and never will
Posted by tcauthen (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dixiemama, i saw her shoot i saw the splash. Believe it or not some women like to shoot. Some people do it for fun. And I still ask all you smarty pants why is this the only complaint from the creek. Surely we must have tried to shoot other people. I mean the water has been up for about three weeks. Its amazing the way you people judge us and you don't even know us. Are you lives that pathetic?
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Natchezbum,
I wouldn't waste your time trying to make these folks understand. Your wife is one of the sweetest people anyone could meet. Those who are attempting to trash her or you are merely making themselves look stupid.
It's pretty clear that they do not know you, else they would know that she would never be capable of hurting another person. That's what burns me up more than anything else about this whole story. She really is one of the most kind-hearted people you could ever meet.
As far as Southernbell's comments, she should TRULY be ashamed! There are outright lies in her comments. I will never ever understand why people feel the need to do that...lie, that is.
Also, the really nutso comments are coming from leadpaint and his kayak buddies. Try to ignore them. The rest of us who know you and your wife know that y'all are great folks!
Posted by coastgirl00 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You know with all the flooding maybe they shouldn't be boating around people's property. If it is flooding, how do you know where the property line starts and ends. I know people who have camps at Deer Park that can't see their property lines. I realize this is a little different but right now people are skeptical about strangers near their property. I don't know any of the people involved and thankful noone was hurt. We should as adults realize maybe it is just all a misunderstanding and try to learn from their experience.
Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Perhaps everyone should just stay inside and keep their collective heads stuck in the sand, as the drive-by (kayak-by) shootings, drug-related shootings (not to mention dice games?!), armed robberies, school shootings, hunting accidents, and other gun related crimes and accidents continue to exponentially increase in the US. This is just another good excuse to push for tougher gun control laws, nothing more.
Posted by ntz143 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm confused....exactly where on Woodville Drive did this occur? I used to have family that lived on that street and it runs into a dead end..the last house on the left side does not have direct access to the creek (land in between). And the man living there now is a widower. So where did this happen?
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
all i can say is all of this is getting crazy....natchezbum and his wife are great people.....dont know anything about leadpaint..but from what ive read so far he sounds like chicken little with a screw loose
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think you have forgotten that chicken little ended up being the hero!
Posted by shedevil (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
not in this story...
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
shedevil, I may not have agreed with you on many things in the past, but you and I are in wholehearted agreement here. The whole thing has become completely absurd. What was merely an accidental incident has become a feeding frenzy.
I shouldn't even post any more on this, but when an innocent person is attacked (Natchezbum's wife, NOT Leadpaint!!)and it is a person I know to be a good person, my dander gets a little riled!
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Even good people sometimes do stupid things.
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You're right, Freedom. But, I truly don't think this lady did anything wrong.
Do you know her? I can't believe that if you do, that you believe for even one second some of the things posted here. I've known her many years, and I can tell you one thing....this is hurtful to her.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh my, I did read in the paper edition of today's paper that the police answered a call re: a shot being fired in the city limits on St. Catherine Creek...so, I've come to the conclussion that this was the first correct statement:
Posted by elvisss (anonymous) on April 7, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Deliverance at St. Catherine Creek! Yikes.
Yall just a bunch of hillbillies with IAD aiight! But then, I read this story and yall's pailed in comparison.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080409/ap_o...
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know the woman involved, but I do know the mother of leadpaint. She believes he is telling the truth, you believe your friend is. I think everyone is right, and everyone is wrong. It is just a mixed up mess, and may never be settled for either. She may be hurting over it, but think how scared this young man was to think someone was shooting at him. And you must admit in this day and age, we cannot be too careful when we feel threatened.
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on April 8, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Freedom, I certainly do agree with much of what you say. I DO believe that he was scared...I would have been to. I'll admit that. But like I say, it all just got blown way out of proportion.
I just wish that others would not "feed" on this story like a bunch of piranahs and throw in things (on either side of the story) that are either untrue, guessed or assumed.
I respect you for responding to me, and not attacking or ridiculing, like some others have.
Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on April 9, 2008 at 7:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WHAT A GREAT BLOG!!!!!
It just goes to show you that a little innocent fun trying to kill fish with a rifle in your back yard can go to a nightmare when folks is around other people. He,he! When the Bible says thou shalt not kill it doesn't say a thing about whether that's gars or people. Maybe this is just part of the wages of sin. LOL!
And I don't put much stock about trespassing from a guy who was riding on the same water in another boat to a guy who was paddling in a boat. And why was that even an issue if the lady was really remorseful about the shooting?
US law on the use of navigable streams has been updated in many areas to the concept that "navigable in fact is navigable in law".
What this means is that if public waterways spill over onto land you can try to keep people from passing over the public water, but that at least some courts would disagree with you.
Many states have come up with their own idea of how to please their constituents. "Ordinary high water mark" etc. Once upon a time in Mississippi if a stream wouldn't float a certain amount of cotton bales on a steamer then it wasn't navigable, and you had to pay to float public water. That reading protected landowners at the expense of others.
Go figure on the recent US court ruling that said there was no right to fish above the navigation channel mark on navigable streams, which means almost everyone that ever fished the willows at an oxbow lake is a criminal any time the sheriff wants to look at it that way.
This incident? The kayaker shouldn't be so ticky. The lady shouldn't be shooting close to others. The lady shouldn't be shooting in town, and maybe not shooting fish just for the joy of saying she hit one. The husband shouldn't use rationale that made it look like he thought the kayaker was in the wrong for being there.
But what I suppose this also means is that anyone can kayak down St. Cat now and the shooting should be abated.
Posted by LocustStorm (anonymous) on April 9, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe the lady could learn how to "fish" with a rod and reel...
Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on April 10, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Amen to her learning how to fish with a rod and reel.
After reading this whole thing, it is obvious that Leadpaint probably heard some confrontational tones in the husband's voice, and if I talked to him it might have been with me still paddling.
And if Oldmoney is correct and the shooter was on his property without permission shooting in the city -- there should have been an arrest. Maybe there should still be an arrest if he choses to file charges. That is one thing that nobody can claim to be a little misunderstanding.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on April 10, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((leadpaint)) only printed what had happened (no names) it is the media that has continued posting. Some for some against. It's very clear who's for who.
All I know is I'm glad ((Leadpaint)) is ok. I hope the next time this pistol happy lady decides to shoot a "gar" she will look all directions before shotting! Carelessness with a loaded gun is a number one killer & even an experienced shooter make careless mistakes.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on April 12, 2008 at 7:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm still trying to figure out how and where the boats were put into the water, especially the motor boat. At normal times, in the areas mentioned in this story, the cliffs along St. Catherine Creek are very steep and it would be difficult to carry a kayak down to the water, must less a motor boat. The only way, I can figure, to get a motor boat in that water would be to put in at the river, or find a neighbor somewhere along the creek with a lower bank, and boat back to the Woodville Dr area. This would mean that if the kayaker was trespassing, the motorboater had also trespassed at the time he originally put his boat in the water. But from what I've always heard, laws governing water say if you can get to it by water, you aren't trespassing. Maybe laws governing waterways is a subject that needs to be better clarified for us readers.
What really concerns me most here is the target practice going on off the cliffs above St. Catherine Creek when there are plans in the works of expanding that area for public recreation.
Is it ok to shoot above people's heads when they are boating by your pier on a lake?
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