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Racing may have led to crash
Published Wednesday, May 21, 2008
VIDALIA — Illegal racing on the Mississippi River Bridge likely led to Sunday’s early morning crash, Vidalia Police said Tuesday.
But even though there were five wrecked vehicles, all of those vehicles were not involved in the same accident.
The first accident, a single-vehicle incident involving a silver Ford Mustang that collided with the bridge, resulted in only minor injuries to the driver and passengers, Vidalia Police Lt. Delayne Bush said.
It was while police were responding to that accident that someone flagged the patrolman down before he arrived on the scene to inform him that a second, larger accident had occurred.
“It was just past the hump on the eastbound bridge,” Bush said. “That was where the real danger was.”
The second accident, involving a grey Dodge pickup, a green Chrysler four-door sedan, a silver Dodge four-door car and a black Ford Crown Victoria, resulted in two fatalities, one serious injury and one arrest.
The two fatalities, Terrence Johnson, 20, who died on the scene, and Kelvin Keys, 22, who died Monday at University Medical Center, in Jackson, were in the same vehicle, which Bush said he was not able to identify at this point in the investigation.
The third victim, an unidentified person who was seriously injured and transported to a Jackson hospital, was also in the vehicle with Johnson and Keys.
The police would not release the names of those who were driving the vehicles at this point in the investigation, Bush said.
However, the driver of the pickup, Cedric A. Hunter, 24, of Natchez, was arrested and charged with first offense DWI Sunday. He was later released on a $696 bond.
The second accident may have involved alcohol, as all of those involved had reportedly just left a bar in Vidalia, Bush said.
The second accident apparently began before the vehicles involved reached the site of the accident involving the Mustang, but came to a rest at a point beyond it, Bush said.
The police took blood alcohol tests on all of those involved in the accident, including those in the Mustang, but the results have not come back from the state lab, Bush said.
“Any time someone is involved in a major accident, that gives an implied consent to blood alcohol testing,” Bush said. “It’s a safety factor. People can talk about how they had these drugs in their system or they were drunk, but when the test comes back, they either have clear blood or alcohol (in their) blood.”
Others were reportedly in the vehicles, but left the scene in other vehicles that were following them.
The police sent a notice to all local hospitals to report any accident-related injuries that came in for treatment, but they have not received any reports at this time, Capt. Arthur Lewis said.
However, people who witnessed or were involved in the accident are still showing up at the police station, Bush said.
“We are still gathering witnesses,” Bush said.
The state police are assisting in the matter, and will provide scale drawings to recreate the accident, Lewis said.
It may be a while before the Vidalia Police get those drawings, though.
“The local state police troop covers 10 parishes,” Bush said. “They had four major accidents (last weekend), and when they left here they had to respond to a fatality. They have to take things as they come to them.”
When one of the cars was found to have bullet holes in it, rumors of a gunfight preceding the accident began to circulate.
The Vidalia police were able to confirm the vehicle was involved in a shooting incident in Natchez several months ago, and that the bullet holes were from the Natchez incident, Bush said.
While police investigated the scene from approximately 4 a.m. until approximately 2:30 p.m. Sunday, traffic was diverted to two-way driving on the westbound bridge across the Mississippi River.
The matter is still under investigation, and Police Chief Billy Hammers said Monday more charges would likely be filed in the matter.
Comments
Posted by NCSugaBowl (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Install cameras on that bridge and this racing crap will stop.
Posted by sorry4ya (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
does anyone know if the driver of the car in which the fatalities occurred lived.
Posted by sorry4ya (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 12:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
was he/she under alcoholic influince
Posted by myfairy (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 12:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think there is a lot of cover- up going on, the story has changed so much per vpd and nd now it WAS some people racing the earlier article said nothing about racing now it was racing this whole situation is fishy and confusing no wonder there is so much speculation.
Posted by rushinghjr (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Only God Knows what really happened unless you were there also!
Posted by justayappin (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So many story will change even when the investigation is closed, b/c a story changes every time it passes someone elses mouth. Racing related was mentioned in the comments earlier and it was from a very reliable source. The only reason all this sounds fishy is b/c so many people have heard so many different stories and posted it here. The VPD were trying to gets facts - we, the readers and comment posters were not patient enough to wait on what the investigation has revealed. That is where all the confusion is!
Posted by justayappin (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 1:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We want to know the news and we want to know it when it happens. That is why we read it here, so we know first! RIGHT?
Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 2:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think cameras on the bridges is an excellent idea. Maybe Natchez can pay for cameras on one bridge and Vidalia can pay for the other.
Posted by SimpleSimon (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 3:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually I cant think of any constitutionally given rights that say we the people have to know every little detail about every little thing at any given time... sounds a bit like gossip mongering to me. Perhaps we should wait until the whole story is completed by the accident investigators and released to the public before we go spouting out suppositions... I have heard so many theories on this site and people saying we have a right to know. No, you have a right to know when the police release the information. Then and only then will you get the facts. As of right now they probably have a good idea of what went on but remember they are still piecing things together from all these people whos stories may or may not be all together the same.
I would go for cameras on the bridge... especially the west bound its too narrow for the 70 some folks want to drive in rush hour.
Posted by adamstanton (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
a rush hour in Natchez hahahahahha
Posted by gnikmas (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 7:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The bridge pile up is liken to a very complicated puzzle and what is complicating that "puzzle of a wreck" even more are the missing pieces. The missing pieces are those individuals that left the scene of the wreck or made the choice to remain silent once the police arrived.
Whether it was racing or alcohol. a lot more will be revealed once the results from the state police are returned to the police department. The police department is simply trying to figure out what happened on that fateful morning and they are being critized by some as trying to hide or plant information on someone.
The only objective of the police is to work diligently towards the truthful conclusion of what happened. There are several more people whom could assist in this matter and it sad so many made the choice to remain silent although one individual died in their sight, another died the next day and another is critical condition.
The police can't release all of the information because this is an ongoing investigation and we should be grateful they give out as many details as they did. As well, numerous individuals are still coming forth and other story given may reveal even more missing pieces.
Posted by hellcat (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There has been racing since I moved here 18 years ago, it just used to be kept in the county, Pine Ridge Rd to be exact. They lined up, placed their bets, and the race was on. If you were from out that way you knew it was happening and to stay out of the way. Maybe instead of cameras we need to fund some kind of quarter mile racing strip so innocent people don't get hurt when these kids want to race. I was recently on the bridge coming from Vidalia and several motorcycles passed me doing at least 80, popping wheelies. It startled me because they seem to come from nowhere. We have lots of elderly drivers and had it been one of them it may have startled them so that they may have wrecked. Also, that bridge is like passing in a curve, because of the hill you can't see what's coming, like a wreck ahead of you. Sounds like a good case of ego v/s intellect to me.
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
myfairy - what cover up? I guess you kow the whole story including the cover up right?
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 7:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Was there a vehicle going the wrong way on the bridge, or not? Were they racing in the wrong direction?
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hellcat, there has been a group of people who have tried to open a drag strip out near the airport and the surrounding neighbors threw a fit over it. I don't see how it could be nay more noisy than the airplanes, but it was nixed. I thought it was a great idea and would keep this sort of thing from happening all over the area. (Or at least minimize it). There are alot of residents that travel out of town every weekend to drag strips. It could be a great draw for our community. But, it looks like it won't happen.
I'm not choosing to believe any of this story until the final report is released. I think the VPD is doing what they can to investigate this and it seems the story keeps changing. I do believe they are doing their best, but keep getting conflicting information. Maybe the ones involved in all of this knew they were doing something wrong and don't want to get themselves into trouble. I think if you are adult enough to drag race on the bridge at 4:00 AM (assuming that's what happened), then you should be adult enough to own up to your mistakes. No one is perfect.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why does it take days for witnesses to trickle in? Maybe there's someone out there who knows exactly what happened but won't tell because it would incriminate themselves and others. How sad.
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace007, that's what has been stated in the beginning, and from the description of the accidents SO FAR, seems to me someone had to be going in the opposite direction on that other bridge.
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's my guess, the witnesses are trickling in, because they don't want to be investigated as accomplises, even though they may or may not be.
Installing cameras on the bridge is a great idea. Just be sure they work!
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
True kpage, but it seems there were so many witnesses, that someone surely could give an accurate story. I read one comment the other day that said there were 20 people surrounding the car that Johnson was in. If that's true, there must have been quite a number of witnesses. One or even several may not be willing to talk, but out of all of those people, surely some will. That's what I'm hoping, anyway. I'm sure the families would like to know how this happened to their children. I hope all involved will do the right thing and speak up.
Posted by MamaC (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My heart still goes out to the families of the kids who were involved. No matter how it happened, we still have 2 deceased young men and they are someone's son. I hope and pray our other young people will heed to this warning and refrain from racing, especially if they've been out partying. I know I've lived here all my life and we used to race too, but now that I'm older and have children and grand-children I see how irresponsible and dangerous it is. We, as the adults of this area need to plead with our Youth and communicate the dangers of racing, drinking, late/early hours of the night. It breaks my heart we have had so many fatalities lately. I hope-n-pray this will wake some of them up.
I feel the VPD & State Troopers are doing an excellent job. This wasn't your every day minor accident and it takes time to put together all the pieces. As for the story changing, I'm sure it will continue to change as the witnesses come forth and they put this accident puzzle together. I'm sure those that fled are scared to come forward, but the quicker they do the better. I'm sure all names will leak out eventually. Until then........May God comfort these families who have lost one their loved ones.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I just can't imagine anyone purposely going the wrong way on the bridge, and especially racing while going the wrong way on the bridge. I know on movies they show that kind of stuff, racing and dodging traffic on freeways, in tunnels and bridges, and causing multi-car pile-ups. Are movie scenes influencing kids to pull these kind of stunts? And was that teen, who recently drove his 4 wheeler into an on coming 18 wheeler, attempting to drive under it like they do on the movies?
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with what MamaC said.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace, I understand what you are saying, but I don't think we can blame movies for this. There have been movies for nearly 100 years. Unfortunately, this day and time, they can get ideas from the internet, video games, tv, movies, books and even school. We can't take away all of those things, but we can hope that they are raised to know the difference in reality and tv. I'm not blaming parents here - or the tv, video games, etc. I think that sometimes people just don't make wise choices in life, but NEED to take responsibility for their actions.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MamaC, you are right!
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I would hope that all involved would take back what happened that night, if they could. Make some different choices if they had to do it all over again.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It can't be taken back froggie. Some things can't ever be undone. That's why it's so sad. But, perhaps there will be some who will learn from the mistakes made which resulted in devastation on the bridge that night (or the wee hours of the morning).
Posted by josey (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with what Mama C said as well. Lets let the VPD & the State Troopers do their job and when everything is placed together then they will release their findings and we will know. This is not a 1 hr CSI show, it is real life and it takes time to piece the puzzle together.
With all of the tragedies having taken place recently we as a community need to rally around the families of the victims and hold them up in love and prayers .These tragedies should be a wake up call for our youth. Graduation and summer break is coming up and we need to keep a close eye on what our kids are doing. I know I will be keeping a close eye on my teens.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sometimes, maybe it wouldn't hurt to allow your children to see you cry...tell them why you are crying...say to them...I am so afraid for you that I don't know what else to do, and then just give them a hug, because it may be your last chance to hold them...pray often asking for strength and place your children in God's hands...and trust him to guide them.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You are right, peace! That is excellent advice.
Posted by Syoung (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who was driving the vehicle with the two deceased? I wonder if it was the victim that is in Jackson seriously injured. I hope he wasn't drinking. This sounds just like the July 4th incident where the boys were fighting and run off the cliff. It's usually the driver who lives.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So true peace.....
syoung you are right...
Posted by gator (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was halfway across the east-bound bridge and I saw this driver just entering the bridge behind me . Anyway this clown passed me before I got off the bridge . He had to be doing no less than 90 miles per hour ,probably more . This type of driving is a favorite activity of some drivers . It gives them a chance to test the performance of their sports cars . Natchez/Vidalia just don't realize how popular that one mile expanse is to the local drag scene . They definitely need to put cameras on both bridges or more people will lose their lives .
Posted by jnarts (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I live in Ferriday & know these families,My heart & prayers go out to them.I would like to ask all the people posting comments to not make any comments on this site for one day in order to give the families time to grieve and not think of all the details.P.S. let the investigators finish thier job.
Posted by MARIE (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
syoung u r right the one that was driving is the one in jackson it seems like the driver always b the 1 2 live. as far as jnarts u can forget that people is going 2 comment more now. peace07 good advice wonderful!! WE ALL DO NEED 2 PRAY FOR THESE FAMILIES AND MY FAMILY ALSO BECAUSE I HAVE TEENS 2.
Posted by opinsab (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
God please watch over your young children involved bring them to do the right thing. And God please take these greiving families hold them tight. Let them know that this is your plan and Good can come out of this. We love you. Amen
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The most puzzling part of the article is this: they say the second accident happened before the first accident, but ended up past the first accident. If four vehicles were involved in the second accident, how did they get past the first accident without causing a pileup there? Just real confusing to me.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"The second accident apparently began before the vehicles involved reached the site of the accident involving the Mustang, but came to a rest at a point beyond it, Bush said."
This is the part of the article I said was confusing (see previous comment).
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
From what I have read over the past several days, it seems that most of the people who have posted have repeatedly expressed their condolences to the families. And we will continue to pray for them.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Swapmeet, from what I can gather, the first accident only involved one car and it stopped against the wall of the bridge (it wasn't actually IN the road). I'm assuming that is how they were able to pass it up without crashing there. I could be wrong, though.
Posted by butterfly (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MY SYMPATHY TO THE FAMILIES. AND, JNARTS, THE "SILENCE" SHOULD NOW BEGIN................
Posted by dovechase (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
People race on the bridges all the time. If you go to the riverwalk on any evening, you will see it. It's not just cars that are racing. Motorcycles (crotch rockets) race regularly too. Unfortunately, this fool decided it would be fun to go the wrong way. Maybe more attention will be paid in the future to racing on the bridges.
Posted by vidalia1 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
peace007 A good daily practice for all no matter what.I like the idea.
Posted by ITSME (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The people that left the scene should be arrested cause by now sure they have there story together and are telling plenty of lies.
Posted by texasranger (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Same ole who shot John. We will never know the truth. Same ole same ole in the sleepy southern town with the same click running it all.
Posted by srob (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
possibly that the single car accident happened AFTER the multicar pileup because the driver swerved to avoid the four car accident?
or if the single car accident happened BEFORE the multicar, they might have all seen the single car and swerved to avoid the grey car, and hit each other.
i guarantee the incidents are interrelated, one of them caused the other one. it isn't that confusing to figure out how they all wrecked, no matter which accident happened first.
Posted by srob (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
um guys, this isn't CSI. it doesn't take less than a week to solve a crime/incident like on TV. This could take months, even years, considering there are likely people coming forward who werent even there, trying to "help" or telling stories they've heard, or just making up stuff to be in the limelight. you have to realize that this is going to take longer, and even then, we may NEVER know what happened. just because there is an investigation doesn't mean it will ever be solved. there will be many theories, but no one knows what happened except those involved, and the key bits of info may have only been held by those who have passed because of this. don't be so impatient, and give the cops the time they need to solve a case. would you prefer they jump to conclusions and blame the wrong people? i wouldn't! these things take time, people, and they are not required to tell ANYONE ANYTHING until they feel like it. we are lucky we have been told all that we have.
Posted by itsallaboutme (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
everyone just need to stop commenting because yall begged for them to give the updated story or information they had but then when they do your still not satisfied with it...these ppl know their jobs.. if you think you can do a better job than they are go apply for their position then you'll realize its not as easy as you thought..
Posted by Babydoll601 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I give my sincere condolences to the grieving families but I have to draw attention to all that posted comments on previous stories. srob....These accidents are not interrelated. One happened in due time before the other. The police was responding to the first wreck when they were told that the second accident had occured. The mustang was on the shoulder not in the road so no way possible they could be interrelated. Anybody know that if you see a car on the shoulder you should move into the other lane if possible. Now on another story you said you saw the second wreck occur, did you actually? Did you actually take pictures. I read all comments, your story is just as confusing as the democrat. I make inferences off of your above comments and I take it that you were not there. Going off by what others say is what we are all doing. We know what they say and some of us know what those that witness say. People race on both bridges all the time because 18 wheelers pass us like we are doing 35.
Posted by Babydoll601 (anonymous) on May 21, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by srob (anonymous) on May 19, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
first off, i took photos of the vehicles as i was crossing to Natchez across the old bridge, and the damage that was done to those vehicles, it seems very unlikely that the grey mustang would have been able to drive away from this
Posted by mommieof2 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 12:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
well.... i heard that the truck and one of the cars where going to play "chicken" so the truck went across the bridge and turned around. One car passed the car playing "chicken" and thats when they crashed. So that would explain why one of the vehicles was traveling the wrong way on the bridge.
Posted by mommieof2 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 1:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i strongly believe that EVERYONE involoved in this tragic accident should go to PRISON!!! Two ppl lost their lives and the other cowards involved have not been caught, when VPD finds these other ppl they should be punished. Cody who was involved in the wreck on the 4th of july is doing time for his mistake, so they should do time for theirs.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mommieof2
DITTO!!!!!!!
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Every day and ever article gets more confusing.
Even the boy's obits are very sketchy & incomplete.
There has got to be more to this than we the public are being told.
I do know the bullet holes were in the gray Mustang. It sounds the driver of this car is use to dangerous actions!
This article didn't mention anything about a red mustang. What is that all about?
I have a young gradson driving & I want him to be able to spot & dodge any of these maniacs on the road!
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I thought someone said the driver of the gray mustang was an older lady. Surely that was wrong. If I'm not mistaken, it was a "witness" that said that. Why would an older lady have bullet holes in her car? These stories are jumping around a good bit, but I think it's because several "witnesses" are posting their sides to the story and the poor cops are probably getting 20 different stories. I'm sure once the investigation is complete, the facts will become clear. That is - IF they ever get the whole story. What I can't figure out is why people are afraid to talk when something happens. You read about a shooting or burglaries and nobody saw a thing. What are they afraid of in this case? I can almost understand it in a murder/shooting, but not this.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And maybe they are getting everyone's story. I assumed since they said witnesses were still coming forward, that they don't have all of the facts. Maybe (and this is just me speculating) when the first wreck happened (with the single mustang), the plans were already in the works to race. Someone went ahead to the "finish line" so they would know who won and spotted the wrecked car. They then turned around (going the wrong direction on the bridge)to warn the others and that's what caused the second crash. I'm just guessing, though. I guess I'm really trying to make sense of the whole thing, because none of it seems to be making sense to me. I suppose we will all find out in time.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When I saw the gray Mustang being towed away it looked look a convertatable. Does anyone know anything about that car? Or the red Mustang?
Everyone concerned is going to protect one another. There was one person that was there and knows what exactly what happened, God. These young people better remember that, because if they don't confess & do the right thing they will have have to confess to their Maker.
Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This has gotten way out of hand with the speculation, don't ya think???
Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
and the judgements.....
Posted by thetruthhurts (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
haha froggie..... you are full of "what ifs" aren't ya.....
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yep, that's me!
Posted by lsutiger21 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
froggie,
i heard that there was an older lady in a mustang too.
and that where was another truck involved...but there was only that dodge truck that i saw at the police station
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, lsu. I thought I had read that somewhere. I guess we will find out when they complete the investigation.
Posted by hardworker (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 6:28 p.m.
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Posted by jnarts (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This tragedy has torn all of us up, let's not let it tear us apart.I don't think God took these young men's lives to fuel a conflict.Let's all join together & show some love & send up some prayers for these families in their time of need.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 22, 2008 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Every day this gets more complicated. Is it confussing or a cover up?
It's beginning to seem cars were going picking victims up to avoid trouble.
Can't cell phones be confisgated for data? Of course once the call were made they could have easily thrown them in the river. I have a feeling this will never be solved to everyone satisafaction.
Posted by ItsMe2008 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Now this is really working my nerves....These 2 recks had nothing to do with each other didnt you read that? And the fact of the matter is the gray mustang was not racing a red mustang!!!!!And there wasnt an older lady in the gray mustang! And Froggie you are always thinking negative...Plus the gray mustang dont have any bullet holes in it to my knowledge.....if you wana now so much please go help the police find out what really happened!!!!For all we know u couldve been driving the red mutang
Posted by Babydoll601 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Itsme2008 I have 2 agree. If you wasn't there so be it. Leave it alone and the police handle their job. Or maybe some of you should take their job and find out what happened for them. Froggie i give you your props we will find out in time. But all this unnecessary blaming is not called for. if you wasnt there then don't assume anything.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There are so a many unanswered questions unaccounted for in the horrible inncident.
I. From what I've hear no cameas on the bridge
2. Speeding & drinking is more than 100% the reason. A gun is probably the third factor. (If the gun wasn't found it's in the river now more than likely). Also with cell phones.
3. Speeding past a police who had stopped to assist the gray Mustang. Why didn't the officer take in after them when he saw the passergers were not in immediate danger?
4.Possible too many in the cars (more than likely not using seat belts)
5. People leaving the scene of the accident (cameras could have caught that)
6. Bullet holes WERE in the the gray Mustang old or new is what we would like to know. As for the woman only a few have mentioned her so that seems questionable.
7. Were cell phones confisgated immediately.
I have a feeling because of the mass destruction this is a extremely blotcher crime scene which is really going to hurt the victims families.
This "froggie" character is making me have a lot of suspecious about her.
Now I see were another lady died in a car wreck in Cranfield. WHAT NEXT!!!!!
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I promise you, I was no where near that bridge and I am entirely too old to be out that time of morning! I have been very quick to not judge, but to ask questions. That's not being negative. I have not blamed anyone for this. Someone is taking my comments out of context.
Posted by dixiemama (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Whatever happen there are going to be some young people with a heavy burden to carry the rest of the lives. Remember two of your friends died because of your little playful games on a dangerous bridge. You guys will live in fear someone "a so called friend" will break & tell the truth & the world as they know it will come crashing down on them. So maybe now is the time to step up & tell the truth. IF a gun was involved I'm sure they are all scared & for a very good reason.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way, overthehill, I don't think I've said anything much different than what you've said. And I did say (very clearly) that it was only MY speculating. I have been very fair and have made it clear that my comments are only my opinion. I don't even know anyone involved in all of this mess.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((froggie)) I've been reading back over some of your comments in the past. Mostly about the man killed in the street & someone throwing a brick. Both violence. I did notice you like to "chat" alot so why not find a dating chat line since you regret not being married & not having children at 36 or maybe move back to Oklahoma. You give out way too much info about yourself true or false.
Then keep your nose & opinions out of the Natchez/Vidalia area.
Then you would not have to worry about being suspected by your comments anymore.
As for 36 being too old to be out in the wee hours of the morning that's funny.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How sweet of you, overthehill. I have not directed one negative thing at you or any other poster and I think it's rude of you to single me out. I have every right to my opinion, just as you do. And as far as that "information", it is false.
Posted by mommieof2 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
omg i feel like some ppl on here are taking these comments too seriously. if you dont like what ppl are saying then maybe you shouldnt read them!! FROGGIE has not said anything out of the way from what i have read, he is just curious as to what happened just like alot of the ppl on here. so if you cant handle all the opinions and speculations on here then maybe you sould not read them!!! another thing i have lived here my whole life and in the ferriday, vidalia, and natchez area ppl talk alot and someone who knows what happened will tell someone and it will all come out one day!!
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way, if I have offended you in some way, overthehill, I am sorry. I never meant to step on your toes.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you, mommieof2. I do appreciate that.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((froggie)) I still believe you know more than you are saying & I think you know what I mean. Especially about the woman.
If by chance you don't, you sure are offering alot of unnecessary opinions.
Sometimes slip ups open a crime case wide open so everyone should be careful.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Are you the older lady in the gray mustang?
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, overthhill, I don't think you should be casting stones here. The comments that I got my information from were from "itsallaboutme". I didn't make those things up about the car having bullet holes or about them saying it was an older lady driving that car. I don't like to point fingers at anyone in particular, but your comments seem to. Again, I am sorry for stepping on your toes, I have never said anything to you to be offended by me. Think what you like, if you knew me, you'd know your allegations about me are way off. Try not to be so quick to judge.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
By the way, some people may feel your opinions are unnecessary, also, but I haven't read anyone telling you that. Most people have more respect than that.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((froggie)) That's a funny one me in a Mustang. I did have one in 1966, but that was over 40 years ago.
I've decided to lay off you, you're nothing but a whinner. I don't know aything about an older lady, but I do know about the bullet holes either old or new. All you had to do was walk by the VPD before it was removed & you could see the holes.
As for (itsallaboutme)) they made a complete fool out of themselves after the first few post.
Posted by froggie (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You and I aren't that different. We are both (along with many others) just trying to find out what happened. I don't whine and I think it's a shame that after this horrible accident, you choose to pick on me. I don't know who "itsallaboutme" is, but whether their comments were true or not, that's what I based my opinion on. I don't take every comment I read to be true, but I also have not picked on any one poster on this story. I don't know what I ever did to you or what exactly makes you think I am whinning, but I will continue to post as I wish. Sorry if I bug you.
Posted by itsallaboutme (anonymous) on May 23, 2008 at 10:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
first off how did i make a complete fool of myself the natchez democrat proved everything in my comments to be proven facts 1- the accidents were two seperate accidents 2-the bullet holes in the car was from another incident not related to this.. Right or Wrong....so if anything your makin a fool of your self.. continue to comment on the hear-say i knew what i was talking bout. i was there remember yall was not.. how would you ever know the truth when someone tries to tell ya u call them a fool "shame shame shame"
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on May 24, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((froogie)) & ((itsallaboutme)) where were the two on you early Sunday morning at 4:00AM to have so much knowledge about what happened?
I was where I was suppose to be in bed asleep!
IF you are different people & not the same username (which I doubt)you have nothing to worry about.
I picked my granddaughter up at the Jr. High & that's how I saw the bullet holes, it was not speculation.
Posted by srob (anonymous) on May 31, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I did take photos of the wrecks as I drove by, and the gray car and another darker one looked so banged up there is no way they could have driven away. Maybe I'm mistaken about how vehicles work, but I liken it to the way you can't take a crumpled ball of paper and put it through a printer. Doesn't work. If you think I am lying, send me your email address and I will email you these photos. I never said I was there when it happened, I said I took photos as I was driving across the From Natchez side of the bridge heading TO Natchez. Aka, after this accident happened.
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