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Natchez Ford Lincoln Mercury car salesman Lavan Thompson helps a customer who is interested in purcasing a new truck Thursday afternoon.
Big cars not leaving lots
Published Friday, July 18, 2008
NATCHEZ — As the price of fuel seems to be on a limitless assent local auto dealers are seeing the repercussions — for better and worse.
Brad Yarbrough, owner of Natchez Ford and “Performance Dodge,” said the high cost of fuel has had a noticeable impact on his sales and not for the better.
Yarbrough said though he is not surprised by the decline in sales of trucks and SUVs, he is surprised by how much sales have dropped.
Yarbrough estimated sales of trucks and SUVs have dropped approximately 30 percent over the past three years.
Similarly, the manager of Great River Chevrolet, Cadillac, GMC Eddie Thompson said he has seen sales of trucks and SUVs decline approximately 20 to 25 percent.
“There’s a trend toward passenger cars,” he said. “But people still want comfort.”
Thompson said while he has seen an increased interest in more economical cars and hybrids, many still prefer the larger vehicles.
Thompson said while some buyers have a need for large SUVs or heavy-duty work trucks, many just like the comfort of larger SUVs and trucks.
Both Yarbrough and Thompson both said many consumers still purchase trucks and SUVs for their size and comfort after examining more fuel-efficient vehicles.
“Some people at this point just aren’t willing to give them up,” Yarbrough said.
Though some drivers are not willing to give up the big vehicles, many have.
Thompson said sales of big trucks and SUVs have dropped enough that the lot is stocking fewer to sell.
And those who have made the switch to smaller cars are doing so with gusto.
General manager of East Honda Pontiac Buick, Carl Rogel, said he is having a difficult time stocking enough fuel-efficient cars to sell.
“People are really looking at their mileage,” he said.
Rogel estimated he is selling three times the amount of Hondas from this time last year.
“We’re selling them right off the truck,” he said.
Of the Hondas, the Civic and Accord are top sellers, Rogel said.
Rogel said the high cost of gas has greatly decreased the value of many pricey SUVs, leaving the owners in a bind.
“They want to get rid of them,” he said. “But the value is down on them.”
Rogel said some SUV owners are so willing to rid themselves of big SUVs they will sell them at a financial loss to buy a more fuel friendly model.
And SUV owners are not the only ones losing money.
City Clerk Donnie Holloway said he is confident the decreased sales at some auto dealers have lessened the sales tax collected by the state.
“It’s a negative impact for them,” he said of the state.
Holloway said the taxes not going to the state as a result of decreased sales ultimately equates to money not coming into the city.
Since the State Tax Commission does not release tax records Holloway said it would be difficult to determine exactly how much money had been lost.
But for now some of those bigger vehicles will continue contributing to the state’s tax coffers.
Yarborough said he believes before a substantial number of drivers would stop driving SUVs and trucks, gas would have to hit $6 a gallon.
Comments
Posted by dangyankee (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 1:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
limitless "assent"
Unlimited agreement?
Huh?
Do you mean limitless "ascent"
Posted by dangyankee (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Does anyone really believe that SUV/pickup owners drive those monstrous vehicles for "comfort"? Take a long ride in a big pickup or SUV someday, then come back and tell me about "comfort."
It's all about a feeling of "power," of being bigger and "stronger" than everyone else on the road.
Strip it down, it's all about ego. That's to be expected in the "Bible belt," I suppose.
The ironic aspect, when it comes to the South, is that all these SUV/pickup drivers have lost that damn war again, this time to Madison Avenue (that's in New York City) advertisers. You hate the "north," but nevertheless buy everything they want to sell you. So the North gets richer, and y'all get poorer--high car/truck/SUV payments, higher bills at the gas pump, etc. Who is winning, here?
I kinda hope gas does go to $6 a gallon, or $8. Maybe it would make us all rethink what we are really "about." I honestly don't think that we, any of us, are defined by the vehicles we drive. I hope not, anyway.
Posted by Mucasplug (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dangyankee you need to go back to NY. It's the middle class and poor that are suffering from these prices. And for your information many of us do not buy vehicles made by the United Autoworkers, I being one of them. So my Nissan truck was made in the south, right up the road. You might want to check the unemployment in Mich. and compare it to any southern state. Nissans corp. headquarters is in Nashville. Toyota - CA. Honda- KY. To say the North is running the automotive industry is laughable. Its a fact that the price you pay for a UAW made vehicle, the cost for their health and retirement package is more than the price of the metal in the car. So, buy your union made Chevy and I will drive my Honda. The only thing worse than a yankee is one that lives in the south and brags about where he came from.
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mucasplug I'm with you!
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You know it's bad when mid-sized to economy cars are costing way too much to fill up, not even mentioning the SUVs and trucks. My sports car used to take about $25 from empty to fill, it's a Mustang. Now, from empty, it easily takes near $50 to do so and this is regular unleaded, not premium petro.
Posted by GopherBaroque (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Do a little math before you dump your big engine transport. Suppose you have a vehicle with a big engine that is worth $10,000. You trade that for a little engine that cost you $20,000 minus your trade. The difference is of course $10,000 dollars. Now, how much gas could you buy for the big engine with that extra $10,000 you just spend on the little engine. Sometimes its just not economical for your wallet to go that route. Just a thought for the day.
Posted by generoberts (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh MAN!!!! You have a Mustang?!?! You are awesome!!!
Posted by NoWireHangers (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DangYankee:
I agree with you. I hope that gasoline goes up higher. I know this is not a popular opinion but I feel that Americans waste fuel and when the price goes up they are more conservative and make wiser choices. I travel frequently to Europe and the U.K. and everybody there drives small to very small cars. It is hard to do that here while there are large SUV's, trucks, and large sedans on the road that will wipe you out if there is an accident. We need more scooters and bicycles in use, but again it is hard to do that when the big vehicles are still on the road. We need to make Natchez and other areas more bicycle friendly. We were in Amsterdam recently and everybody there uses a bicycle.
Of course mass transportation such as subways, tram systems, etc..need to be added to cities, but if everybody would drive a small car and dump the large vehicles, we'd all be better off.
Posted by generoberts (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gopher.... You are SO wise!!! Good advice!
Posted by GopherBaroque (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Of course you can always buy a scooter or small motor bike and get 100 mpg.
Posted by kilabe (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Right on Mucasplug! I brought my SUV b/c I have 4 children. They don't make cars like they did when I was a kid. My parents 4 kids could sit on the back sit ( Buick) and still not touch one another. These day if you have a child or two in a car seat or booster sit, that right there will take up the whole back seat. your'll be lucky to get two grown people back there. They do not make cars anymore for a family over 4. So Yes I drive my SUV for comfront, other wise I would be in jail for driving my child in my lap just b/c there is no sit for him. Rock on SUV.
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gopher - What do you do when you trade in your old $10K SUV for a new $30K SUV?
Your comparison made no sense at all. SUV's almost always cost more than compact cars, thats just common sense.
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think also that because countries like China have basically replaced their cycling citizens to those who are car owners, this is also placing a burden on the plentifulness and availability of oil. More and more countries that did not rely as heavily on oil, now are importing just about as much as America. I think we are fooling ourselves if we think we can just dig our way out of this. I do think more areas should be explored, but this is not the one way ticket out. Oil is a resource and resources can dry up. There should be a concerted effort amongst the scientists to harness power through various means, that's AFFORDABLE to the average Joe. I have listened to and read the ethanol story and I am not totally sold, for one, it is VERY expensive to make and the quality of that gas reduces mileage.
Posted by 77shovel (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I can only speak for myself, not all southerners. I do have a large truck, a diesel. I have it due to it's towing capacity. I definitely don't feel the need to be bigger than anyone else or have a "feeling of power". I do leave the diesel at home more these days and take my motorcycle when possible. Sounds like you are the one still fighting the war yankee.
Posted by NTZglasshouses (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yankee -
So southern SUV drivers are in them for the power, meanwhile northern SUV drivers are in it for all the right reasons? And what does the "Bible Belt" have to do with anything here?
Over the last 10 years, SUV's have outsold passenger cars almost 2 to 1. Why? Gas was cheap...nationwide, not just in the south. So, if you are at a stoplight in your Tahoe, and there are 9 other SUV's at that stoplight, how do you feel more powerful?
UAW makes your Tahoe, Yukon, Hummer, and most of your other gas guzzlers. Look around.
Your agenda is based on the fact that you hate people from the south. Your opinion is yours, but blaming the south for the SUV poplulation is ludicrous. And we dont buy everything that Madision Ave throws at us. (That is in New York right? - that place in the North where everyone is miserable and won't make eye contact for fear of being murdered/mugged/beaten?)
Park Avenue - Thats great that they can drive very small cars in England. The entire country is 300 miles from the Northernmost point, to the southernmost. I agree that we need to commit to conservation, and all do our part, but you cant compare the driving habits of a country the size of the US to the driving habits of an entire country with less land mass that many single states in the US.
Posted by sunkitty (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who is this "dangyankee"? Your comments are absolutely absurd. If you live here in the South and you dislike us SO much - then GO BACK from whence you came! As someone asked earlier "What does "Bible-belt" have to do with this article?
Posted by John (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have a bicycle, but find it dangerous to use in Natchez, to same nothing of the cobblestone streets, we have here. And for all you Vidalia enthusiasts, yesterday I saw someone riding a bike in the inside lane right down the highway in Vidalia!! Talk about dangerous!
As for contempuous northerns, why do you stay here? Enlighten the rest of us? Perhaps its because we don't use that very expensive heating fuel in winter.
Posted by npc (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You hit the nail on the head glass. You can't compare these small countries to the U.S. It is very easy to put a train track across one small country and the towns are very compact. Here in the US, we on land that people work. We have plenty of land that people can spread out on, which doesn't require us to drive small vehicles to fit in these very compact cities. Also, while I agree that seat belts are a great idea, I have always called that a rich mans law. My father asked me one day why all of my friends were buying these big SUV's. I explained to him that every kid in the car know has to be in a car seat. He said that he didn't even think of that. With the seat belt laws, their are families that can never travel legal. I know several families of 5 and 6 members and don't have the income to purchase a vehicle that has enough seat belts or room for 3 or 4 car seats. The seat belt law created a big demand for SUV's. With our family, we never have enough room to take any of my kids friends along on a trip or even give a ride home from school. When I was a kid if you could get 10 people in a car the size of a nissan sentra, you were good to go. Know they will put you under the jail for child neglect. Don't get me wrong, I am for wearing a seat belt, but when you put laws like this in place it has unseen effects. You will have a hard time getting large families to come down to smaller vehicles, they will be breaking the law.
Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have a bud in San Diego who was a car salesman until just recently. He said take a Civic and a Civic Hybrid. Civic EX costs 19K and gets 30/40 MPG. Hybrid gets 48 and 52 and costs 24K. If you drive 350 miles a week it will take 6.3 years to make up the cost of the Hybrid. Then again it is a 6 month waiting list for a Civic Hybrid or a Prius and you will likely pay over sticker.
Bang for your buck? V8 SUV, they are so cheap right now you will never save enough gas on something fuel efficient to make up the difference.(again this is San Diego)
He also said for a large used suv or pickup to look up the Kelley Bluebook price. Then offer half of that. That is what the vehicle is worth on the market right now. For instance the KBB might say a 2006 is worth $20K, you should be able to buy it for $10K. And you probably could anywhere but Natchez.
Also, who is going to buy a vehicle in Natchez? I have never found a deal with the dealerships here. Anywhere but Natchez.
yankee go home
Posted by geauxtigers (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
npc you make a great point. Some families really need SUV's...the same way that families back in the day had to have station wagons or mini vans. And when you saw those station wagons and minivans, you automatically knew that the person behind the wheel was a mom or a dad. The serious problem with SUV's is their appeal to the 18-30 year old singles crowd who have no spouse and no children. SUV's have been the cool thing to drive for the past 10+ years. Parents want their kids to be "safer" so they send them off to college in brand new SUV's and since they are so used to the size, what do you think the kid buys when they graduate from college and land that first job? Yep...Stupid.
Posted by james (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(dangyankee) GO HOME AND TAKE (DahlingILuvUButGiveMeParkAve) WITH YOU!
Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I recently gave up my V8 Escalade for a V6 sports car. Gas Mileage is better, 14 MPG vs 21 MPG. I just cannot bring myself to give up the powerful motor. I cannot image putting around in a 4 cylindar electric hybrid car...YIKES!
I wish the damn yankee would answer y'alls questions...what on earth does the bible belt have to do with gas guzzlers? I'm curious about the rationale...where'd you go yankee???
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My car doesn't leave the carport unless it have to!
dangyankee & DahlingILuvUButGiveMeParkAve
You both sound like a match made in heaven. As a matter of fact do either of you even come from planet Earth? I don't know what gives you your far fetched ideas, but it sure isn't common sense.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
James and overthehill60 y'all said a mouthful there lol...Well i will be waiting on there response:)...
Posted by iceman_32 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i just bought a brand new chevrolet z-71.... pretty pricy truck but the way the economy is right now you can get a 40k truck for 29k but you wont find that kinda deal in ntz....
Posted by Bobaloo (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
buying gas guzzlers because they are cheaper now and the math works out to waste gas is not the answer.... it's the problem.
Please....... use some common sense.
Posted by MayJay (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DahlingILuvUButGiveMeParkAve
Scooters & bicycles are not practical in Natchez
Alot of people don't live in "town" they live in the country... alot of people have children & elderly parents they have to get from one place to another... Alot of people have at least a 30 minute drive to work...others have to drive more than an hour.
Have you been on any MS highways...I feel much safer in my SUV than I do in my Civic... 18 wheelers, deers and bad drivers...
Posted by sunkitty (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Several people in my neck of the woods have purchased motor scooters and motorcycles. Of course, where I live these modes of transportation are pretty safe (not much traffic here). Our priest at the church rides his motor scooter that was given to him after Katrina. It is an amusing sight - his helmet has FLAMES on it!!
Where are Park avenue and that Yankee fellow hiding out?!?
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I drive a truck or an Explorer, depending on what I'm doing and where I'm going that day. My husband just bought a BIG truck with diesel. All my kids drive trucks. AND we are darn proud of it. So there dyankee and dahliing whoever you are. We work hard and play hard and we need trucks to do so. And MayJay is absolutely right - we are a lot safer on the highways around here than in a small car.
Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I drive a chevy lowrider truck, full size at that. Being low does improve on the mpg and handling some. I just can't seem to make it through the mud holes anymore, lol.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by dangyankee (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:04 a.m. : "I honestly don't think that we, any of us, are defined by the vehicles we drive. I hope not, anyway."
Dangyankee must drive a heap of s*#& ! He obiviously does not realize that "losing the war" doesn't make him/her superior to we Southerners....not by a long shot. We Southerners buy (and drive) what we darn well want to buy (and drive)for our own pleasure and comfort. We don't need anyone telling us how we should conserve. Like someone said earlier, we don't have to use all that expensive gas/oil to heat in the winter. So I guess "dangyankee" you are going to try to tell us you don't use gas or oil to heat your abode in the winter? I KNOW a tree-hugger such as you wouldn't dream of cutting down our valuable trees to heat your home!!! Does anyone else smell a hypocrite?
Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Its nice for the bulk of us to finally agree on something, D-Yankee your an Idiot...
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SUV's are convenient. Did I spell that right?
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
18-wheelers are to SUV's as SUV's are to Sedans. I'm trying to see what point Dahling was making about the large vehicles being dangerous to the small ones.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I like to play hard too, Freedom. When I realized that a Chevy Corsica can't cross a ditch, I had to buy a Blazer. LOL!
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Agreed, Csguidry. That was the point of my so called "equation". No matter the size of the vehicle, they all can be dangerous. Safety sees no size.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Y'all have a nice weekend. No matter what you drive, be safe.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I quit buying any new vehicles in 1996. After I did the math and looked over all the numbers and depreciation, I decided that buying new was a bad financial decision. I know many will argue, but it is my personal decison. I have a 2003 Dodge Durango that my wife and I bought 3 years ago. It is a good solid vehicle and I cant complain. We got it after it had been traded for a bigger vehicle(hummer) and we got a deal I could hardly believe and we got it for $1500.00 below the wholesale price. We have a 1988 Honda Accord that we use for short trips around town and my wife uses to go shopping and to school in.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
iceman - you can find that deal in Natchez. We found one at Heritage Dodge, very sweet!
Posted by NatchezEnema (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is still America. If you can afford to drive a big suv, Drive it. If you want to drive a scooter do it, no one is stopping you. Ride a bike or get a horse. But don't try to tell me what to drive. I will decide that, NOT ANYBODY! I don't care what the people in Europe drive. We saved their butts in two world wars. How much gas money did that cost us, the American tax payer. Dahling I luv u Drive what you want. Maybe you should have rowed a boat to Europe instead of flying in that gas guzzling jet. I have said this before. You worry about your little red wagon in your backyard and I will worry about mine. Don't worry about mine unless it rolls in your yard. And I won't worry about yours unless it rolls into mine.
Posted by ProNatchez (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I love my Lincoln. A tank of gas lasts me a month, so I think I will keep it. If I were to buy something more fuel efficient, it would take years to make up the money I would lose in the trade.
Posted by sunkitty (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, folks, I guess our Yankee friend and Dahlin' are layin' low. Haven't heard from them in a few hours.
Hope everyone has a great weekend. Be safe and conserve the fossil fuel - whatever your ride is!
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Natchezenema - You asked that all should mind their little red wagon and you will worry about yours, and in the same entry reference the World Wars. Do you think we should have just played with our wagon during the World Wars and turned a blind eye to Europe? We can't keep turning the blind eye to this energy problem. We in America are all in the same back yard, wake up man.
Posted by dangyankee (anonymous) on July 18, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sunkitty, I have to work and I have to sleep, among other things. I'm not 'layin' low.'"
Somebody above said I hate Southerners. How that person "understood" that from my post, I'm not sure. I do NOT hate Southerners, and in fact do not hate anybody, not even my a-hole neighbor to the north. Fact is, I'm way too lazy to hate anybody. Hating takes a lot of work.
I confess that I will occasionally "tweak" certain attitudes, for instance, "the South will rise again!", because they are, um, kinda dumb. The "South" ain't gonna rise again because there really is no "south" anymore, and hasn't been in at least two or three generations. Like it or not, all y'all are a piece of that "main," the United States. The "South," as an entity, no longer exists. And I think that's a good thing.
Somebody else up there said I thought cars were all made in Detroit or something. I didn't say that. I said SUV drivers were buying into what Madison Avenue has been trying to sell them. Madison Avenue = Advertisers. Marketers. Madison Avenue doesn't manufacture anything but hype of one kind or another.
Y'all need to work on your reading comprehension skills. (More in a minute)
Posted by iceman_32 (anonymous) on July 19, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)
freedom42-you got a damler chrysler thats why..... not saying herritage is not a good dealership, i get alll my maintainence on my jeep done there and my mom just bought a jeep from them last year. ill never buy a vehicle in natchez. my jeep came from houston and my truck from memphis. no big deal.
Posted by sunkitty (anonymous) on July 19, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My dear sweet Yankee man/woman,
Perhaps you need to brush up on your writing skills so that anyone reading your post can glean what you REALLY intended to say.
I am glad that you do not hate anyone; however, you compensate by copping this little "South" and "Bible-Belt" attitude/tirade which really has nothing to do with the above news article. Perhaps you do not hate Southerners, but you definitely think you are better than us or you resent us and you feel the need to speak very condescendingly to us.
I am now getting into my Jeep with its 8 cylinder engine and going to work.
Tootles!
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on July 19, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
DahlingILuvUButGiveMeParkAve
Not sure if you are familar with the the saying:
Born in America
Born in the south by the Grace of God!
But I'm sure you have since you pretend to be so smart, but yet write so stupid. If the truth were known you probably live in the scums of Narchez, making & selling drugs, eating at the Stew Pot & going to the Salvation Army for free hand outs. Or maybe something that looks like Lisa & Oliver's home in Hooterville.
But then this is all just speculations.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on July 19, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I always knew yankees were different...they must think with the other side of the brain. That being said, in reference to this statementmade by dangyankee: The "South" ain't gonna rise again because there really is no "south" anymore, and hasn't been in at least two or three generations. Like it or not, all y'all are a piece of that "main," the United States. The "South," as an entity, no longer exists."....ARE YOU NUTS?!! The Confederacy may no longer exist, but the SOUTH always has been here and always will. Deal with that fact, sir/madam, or YANKEE GO HOME. :-) I'm sure you have enjoyed watching (reading) the reaction you stirred and that being said, ya'll have a good day now, ya hear? Thaaat's niiiice.
Posted by hossfly (anonymous) on July 20, 2008 at 12:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The reality of the matter is so clear that is it unclear. It is so in that it is out. It is so cold that it is hot. Don't you see that? It is so much in the dark that it is in the light. Is is so big that it is small. It is so northern that -- no nothing out of the dumb a#$ north could ever be anything worthy of being in the south!!! Take that dangyankee and shove it in your stupid weird sounding voice box. The irony is that you northerners know nothing about nothing except that ya'll (you all) are left winged liberals who are full of liberal ideas and are politically inept but just don't know it.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on July 20, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just a thought, if yankees hate the south so much, why do they come every spring to spend their yankee money on the scenery & pilgrimage? Is the north so boring there's nothing to do
noneya
I agree there is no Confederacy BUT the south will live forever & the D*** yankees can't take that away from us proud SOUTHERNS!
So let them come soak up our southern sun & laugh at out southern drawls which we are extremely proud of.
As the The Clampetts always said "Well that all folks, ya'll come back now, ya hear"
Posted by GopherBaroque (anonymous) on July 23, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To: mike8427 - My comment was based on the idea that someone who wanted to save money on gas would buy a smaller engine, not a bigger one. Of course it wouldn't make sense if you go out and buy an SUV with a giant engine. However, if you can afford it then go for it. Personally I don't like my gas bill and I think quite a number of others would agree.
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