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Chase involves shots
Originally published 01:00 p.m., August 4, 2008
Updated 12:00 a.m., August 5, 2008
NATCHEZ — A 10-minute car chase led to an arrest and five deputy-fired gunshots in Downtown Natchez Sunday.
At 12:30 p.m. Sunday, Natchez Police Department patrol officers saw a Ford F150 running stop signs on Commerce Street.
Police Chief Mike Mullins said the officers caught up with the driver on Canal Street and signaled him to pull over using blue lights and sirens.
When the driver, Marcus Lorenzo McDonald, 32, 19 S. Sunflower Road, did not pull over, the chase began.
At that point, sheriff’s deputies joined NPD officers in the pursuit.
McDonald turned on John R. Junkin Drive and crossed the Mississippi River Bridge into Vidalia.
After traveling approximately one mile, he turned around and crossed the bridge back into Natchez.
While in Vidalia, one Vidalia Police Department patrol car joined in the pursuit, as well.
From the bridge, McDonald traveled down John R. Junkin and, near the Natchez Mall, ran over stop sticks placed by Natchez police officers.
The sticks, which contain spikes, were successful in deflating the front right tire, Adams County Sheriff Ronny Brown said.
Mullins said this slowed the car down significantly but McDonald didn’t give up his flight.
He then turned onto Lower Woodville Road, where Mullins said he threw what officers presumed to be narcotics out of the passenger side window.
Mullins said they were unable to recover any narcotics.
McDonald continued on Lower Woodville until he turned right on River Terminal Road, he then turned right on Lewis Drive, then turned on Providence Road.
From Providence, he traveled back onto John R. Junkin which he took to Canal Street.
He was headed in the direction of Madison Street when sheriff’s deputies decided to take action to finally stop him.
Two deputies fired three shots at the vehicle and were successful in taking out one of the tires on the left hand side of the car.
Mullins said since McDonald was moving toward a residential area, it was imperative to stop him in whatever way possible.
“At that point, he’s driving a deadly weapon,” he said.
Brown agreed.
“We had to stop him,” he said.
The loss of two tires was still not a deterrent and McDonald pressed on, taking Madison Street up to Martin Luther King Jr. Street.
From Martin Luther, he turned left on St. Mary Street, then turned right on Union Street, then took another right onto Lincoln Street.
Sheriff’s deputies fired two more shots and took out the other tire on the left side of the car.
McDonald chugged on for a few more blocks, turning right onto Claiborne Street and then right on Martin Luther King Jr. Street.
In the 900 block of that street, he pulled over and ran into the bayou.
“When the officers were trying to get him to come out, he yelled, ‘Come and get me MF’s,’” Mullins said.
He resisted arrest and was finally disabled when a deputy used a taser gun to get him under control.
He was handcuffed and transported to NPD where he received charges of felony fleeing a law enforcement officer and unauthorized use of a vehicle in addition to reckless driving and no driver’s license.
Mullins said the unauthorized use charge was given because the truck did not belong to McDonald, it was a family member’s.
A total of two deputy cars and two police cars were involved, as was the VPD unit.
Mullins said the chase was not high speed, that McDonald slowed down at intersections and only got up to about 60 mph and that was when he was crossing the bridge.
“If it had been 100 mph, it would have been called off,” Mullins said, because at that point, the lives of police officers would have been endangered.
Though no bond has been set, Mullins said he hopes McDonald receives strict punishment.
“This individual endangered the lives of several police officers and many citizens,” he said. “He should pay a high price for his actions.”
Once NPD has charged and arraigned McDonald, he will be charged with aggravated assault of a law enforcement officer by ACSO.
McDonald has a criminal history.
“He is familiar with law enforcement,” Brown said.
In September 2007, he was indicted by a grand jury for burglary of a storehouse.
“He’s alleged to have driven a vehicle into a business and stolen an ATM machine,” Mullins said.
March 3, 2000, he was charged with armed robbery which was reduced to simple robbery.
He was sentenced to serve 10 years, but was released on parole after serving half that time.
He also has numerous misdemeanor charges, Brown said.
Brown and Mullins both agreed this was a good example of the police department and the sheriff’s office working together.
Though it initially began as the police department’s chase, Brown said his deputies were nearby and got the call to help out.
“We work fine together,
Brown said.
Comments
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow! What on earth possessed him to run that way?
Posted by GopherBaroque (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
With all the flashing lights he though aliens were after him.
Posted by cchat123 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good one GopherBaroque!!!!
Posted by ljd517 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I saw the chase and they are withholding information because there was a passenger and he jumped out the truck. While the truck was rolling. He was then arrested by a NPO.
Posted by jack (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
go sheriff deputies lock up all the bad guys happy no one got hurt again good police work
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
it doesn't matter what policeman david says keep the bad guys off the street sheriff deputies (the blue is just jealous of you men in brown doing their job) NOW JUDGES YOUR TURN
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NO sheriff brown has not lost control HE HAS CONTROL AND HE IS DRIVING AND BLOWING THE WHISTLE
Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
next time aim for his head.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What did policeman David say?
Posted by iluvntz (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Look like to me it was three people in the truck but whatever. And to ML if all those police officers where behind you because you didnt stop at a stop sign thats crazy. I am so glad didnt anyone get hurt Natchez hasnt ever had a chase to happen like that, they didnt know what to do. Shooting and no one in the truck had any weapons. Whats really going on?
Posted by ITSME (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wanna see some video
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was standing on Canal St. when they came by and for them to say the shooting happened when no one was around they are wrong, I was at Canal and State St. I saw with my own two eyes a deputy shooting out of his passenger window. Im glad thy caught this piece of crap, but I think deputies should have used more caution when they were shooting, bullets dont have names on them.
Posted by ILOVEME08 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)
From what I understand it was two men in the truck and when they went in Susie B West apartments one jumped out and a police officer jumped out and caught him. I was on Woodlawn when ML wrecked the truck and it did not have any tires. He jumped out the truck and ran down into a deep ditch behind the carwash and police officers and deputies ran after him. Bout five minutes later they was dragging him out in handcuffs.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yes sheriff and police you did a good job someone has to make a move on this kind of person, sorry goldie you were around, but glad no one was hurt police know when and where to shoot, i am sure they knew or at least hope so that the bullet would not hit anything. i was told the bullets hit the tires and that is what made it possible to stop it . yes dangerous, but these men do a dangerous job everyday we should give him a medal now the citizens should thank our law officers for stopping this man. it is not their fault this man is on the street. he is out on a bond from a felony charge last year when will we get enough i thank you mr policeman or deputy that shot this mans tire out before he killed someone I CANNOT DO YOUR JOB, AND SOMEONE HAS TO DO IT FOR US AGAIN THANKS
Posted by vanluna (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
iluvntz this didn't all happen because MLM didn't stop at a stop sign, he was in a stolen vehicle.
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why wasn't he charged with anything more??? I am glad the police and deputies could get their adrenaline fix for the week, especially putting so many lives in danger. Would have been different if a tourist was killed. Speaking of national headlines.
Posted by iluvntz (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
O yea good job NPD for making a big screen like that. I thought ML had did something terrible this whole thing would have been avoided if yall wouldnt have harrassed him at the stop sign being that no one really stops anyway they only pause at those stop signs downtown.
And he was only charged with two things Great Job!!
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with you Andy i hear a lot of people saying they were driving to crazy and they should have just him go and pick him up another day. Well if that were done what type of message does that send to these scumbags, they can do something and not stop for police and deputies and get away with it. I can say that was like watching something off TV lets start paying these brave men and women for what they do. Just think if that idiot would have had a gun, we could be reading a totally different story today. NPD ACSO YOU ROCK!!!!!!! And I dont doubt he knew where he was shooting I was just scared out of my mind.
Posted by rattlesnake (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Don't the sheriff's office have a shooting range to practice at. Sounds like someone needs to use it.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here come the negative comments. Iluvntz if he were innocent and only pausing at stop signs why did he run the way he did. How was he harrassed? The article says he's charged with fleeing, which is a felony. I do beleive it said he's also being charged with aggravated assault, a felony. And I research it, this is the same idiot that ran a vehicle into cellularsouth last year and tried to steal the money machine, but didn't get jack. Oh yeah was't he also charged in Florida for Grand Theft. Lock this fool up! Real news we don't know if he was pausing at stop signs or running straight through them God forbid if one of your family members had been around and got hurt by this fool. Then you would be singing where were the police. Damn if they do, Damn if they dont.
Posted by vanluna (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If the sheriff's deputies or police would have just let this thug go when he didn't stop they would have been criticized for not doing their jobs and sending a message out to the other thugs to run if the cops try to pull you over because they will not pursue you. Instead they pursue this guy and are still blamed for putting so many lives in danger. This thug MLM is to blame, had he pulled over like the cops wanted him to do in the first place no chase would have been necessary. The cops were doing there jobs and MLM was the one causing people's lives to be put in danger. Think of all the thugs and crime that would go in the area if the thugs new they could run from the cops and the cops would just let them go.
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let's have a shoot out every day. Yeah, that's the answer. City of Jackson here we come....
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Realnews since you don't think they did the right thing let us all know what they should have done in your opinion.
Posted by iluvntz (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I dont give a damn if they do or a damn if they dont (Just had to say that) it doesnt matter what i say its my opinion. He gonna get what he got coming to him Str8 up. I wont see him for a while. Im sorry this had to happen but o well i mean he had it coming. Everybody know theses police officers dont care
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we shoot anyone who jaywalks across the street or speeds on the highway (oops, I do that all the time) Hope I don't get shot by the police. I guess I better watch out.
Posted by BHillyer (Ben Hillyer) on August 4, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
PLEASE NOT CORRECTION ABOVE: Adams County Sheriff Brown now confirms that five shots were fired — three on State Street and two on Lincoln Street.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
rattlesnake sounds like they can shoot have you ever tried to shoot a moving cars tires pretty good shooting guys i'm still with you maybe next time do shoot for the head and some of these fools will be glad of that
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ND why you keep adding lines to this story just write your article for tomorrow this is old news now deputies you did a good job that is the bottom line
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like someone doesn't like the truth being told.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ben sounds like they are still investigating this or your reporter cannot get the story straight leave law enforcement alone and let them finish investigating, if this is what they are doing everyone knows reporters screw up stories get all your facts ND before you write in here, so we or others donot have to just get pieces I am sure the whole story is not told here just do one good one for real in the paper sounds like your reporter does not the facts right before they print things
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There is NO excuse for gunfire downtown......none.
Posted by BHillyer (Ben Hillyer) on August 4, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy: We talked to Ronny Brown and Mike Mullins this morning. Brown then called us back to give us more info. He called us. We made the changes at his request. We make mistakes all the time and try to correct those we make. We want to get the facts correct as they are told to us. So when Brown called us with more info we corrected our story as soon as we got the information. If we are wrong we will correct it again.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
thanks ben sounds like the sheriff wanted the story right more power to him, I can never get him to blog, he is smarter than that, but I donot blame him you can never win on a blog but anyway again whether it was the city or couty that stopped this man, he needed off the street this is nothing new, happens everywhere everyday. I remember when sheriff brown took over and the county chased a car 50 miles in louisiana and brought that man back. this was the same type thing, that man tried to run over a deputy and he ended up in the pen, maybe this one will or at least they know the adams sheriff will chase you, run you down and bring you back. (lesson needed to be learned by criminals)
Posted by vanluna (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Goldie remember if you try to argue with ignornace you can never win, they will only beat you down to their level. It's ashame that sometimes someone has to act up on here when others are trying have discussions and argue their opinions. It's nice to hear other people's view points on serious matters. But just like the outside world, the net has it's fair share of ignorant people. Some things we can't escape.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy I agree with everything you say, but you sound pro sheriff you can give the PD a little pat on the back. Give them credit for pursuing this guy and ultimatley both our law enforcement agencies coming together and getting this scumbag.
Posted by mirage (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
FOR WHOEVER REALLY WANTS AND CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH.I WAS NOT NEAR THE CHASE BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TO BE TO KNOW THAT THE DEPUTIES DID EXACTLY THE ONE OPTIONTHEY HAD LEFT. THE CHASE HAD TO END. THE LONGER IT WENT ON THE MORE DANDEROUS IT WAS TO OUR CITIZENS. I'VE KNOWN ONE OF THE DEPUTIES MOST OF HIS LIFE.HE IS MORE THAN QUALIFIED TO MAKE THE DECISION HE MADE.HE HAS HAD MORE TRAINING THAN PROBABLY ANYONE ELSE ON ANY POLICE OR SHERIFFS DEPT. IN THIS AREA.I THINK WE SHOULD BE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT SIT IN THEIR CARS JUST TO DRAW A CHECK. I WOULD TRUST THIS DEPUTY WITH MY LIFE AND TRUST ME ,HE SHOT EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS AIMING FOR. HOPE TO SEE MORE OFFICERS OF THIS CALIBER ON THE JOB SOON.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
goldie I did in a earlier post yes both are great and just did a good job also vpd was in this good for them also thanks goldie i'm pro law enforcement
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good I didnt know VPD was in it also. Thanks VPD!!!
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SHERIFF RONNY BROWN HAS NO CONTROL OF THAT OFFICE. IT IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE FOR DOES BIRD BRAIN DEPUTIES TO SHOOT TIRES OUT ON A VEHICLE AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA OR ON A BUSY STREET LIKE CANAL. I WANT TO KNOW ONE THING ,WHERE THEY GIVEN AUTHORITY TO USE DEADLY FORCE? BY ARE IDIOT SHERIFF OR HIS PUPPET CHEIF DEPUTY CHARLES SIMS. ANYTIME YOU USE DEADLY FORCE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IT MUST BE JUSTIFIED.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
why don't you take this to the grand jury since you are so smart on the law
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The cops were hanging out of the windows shooting in downtown Natchez! Even in Los Angeles when there is a car chase they are more careful and mindful of their citizens....NO shooting should be downtown of Natchez or ANY town.
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
IN MOST ORGANIZED AND PROFESSIONAL DEPARTMENTS IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS YOU MUST GET APPROVAL FROM A SUPERVISOR.
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sayitloud yes you are on brown and sims, but they are in office and won by 80% of the voters why don't you run for sheriff and sit in his seat just for one day
i like the part andy about going to the grand jury I think if these deputies or police did wrong or broke policy and procedures, they would be punished sheriff brown has had his own employees and chief mullins has also arrested his employees for committing crimes I think this proves my point I do not see any favors given out by either department do you want criminals to think they can just do anything or just run from police after committing a felony and get away with it sounds like you wouldn't be a good candidate for either one of these mens job I AGAIN THANK ALL THE AGENCIES FOR GETTING THIS MAN OFF THE STREET. LOOK AT HIS CRIMINAL RECORD AND DO YOU WANT HIM STILL RUNNING FROM POLICE AND THEM LETTING HIM GET AWAY WITH IT WHAT IF HE KILLED A KID WITH THAT TRUCK AND WONDER WHAT HE THREW OUT WHEN RUNNING FROM POLICE THIS MAN HAD TO BE STOPPED AND THE LAW WAS RIGHT
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
APPROVAL POTTERS WAS ON DUTY AND THE POLICE ASKED THE SHERIFF TO HELP AND ASSIST THEM FOR YOUR INFO I HEARD SIMS WAS CALLED DURING THIS CHASE AND YES BOTH DEPARTMENTS ARE PROFESSIONAL WHY DON'T YOU MOVE ACEDOG IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT HERE IS IT SAFER IN JACKSON OFFICERS YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB I AM FOR YOU ALL
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey I'm just as glad as the next person that they got the dude.....I'm trying to say THERE SHOULD BE NO SHOOTING IN DOWNTOWN ANYWHERE USA!
where are we, Bagdad?
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
natchez500 you noticed not one natchez police officer fired a shot because they have structure over there , they have a supervisor on duty at all time, like most professional and organized departments do. someone must be held accountable for the complete disregard of human life by these bird brain deputies. the chase started off with misdemeanor charges not felony. you don't put the public at risk. a bullet truly doesn't have a name on it! i want to see the bad guys off the street as much as the next guy
Posted by pimpmrcadillac (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
what color was the person or persons in the truck.
Posted by ujusdontno (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The more you bash law enforcement and punish officers for stopping thugs like this the more they get the idea they can run ,get away and committ more crimes. So all you bashers keep up the bashing and you will bring the officers down to your level.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 5:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pimp why? Black, white, mexican what does it matter. They were the new race, it's called idiots.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Let me get this straight. The ND said this man led them on a ten minute chase. He took off from Commerce, went down Canal, onto Hwy 84, over the bridge into Vidalia, u-turned and went back across bridge into Natchez, got road-spiked on John R. Junkin, went down Lower Woodville and River Terminal Road, then back down Canal, onto Madison, all the way to MLK. And this took only ten minutes? This guy must have been bookin' it. It's a wonder there wasn't a wreck and that no one got killed.
I've been saying it on here with the rash of crimes last week that Natchez is getting just as bad as Jackson and Baton Rouge when it comes to crimes per capita (and I do stress the per capita part). It's getting worse and worse.
Good job NPD, ACSO, and VPD.
Posted by sayitlouder (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sayitloud, how would you know what it like in LA> have you ever been shot at in LA. The town is out of touch and has been out of touch since Mike Mullins has been the police chief. We have a mayor who can't find Canal street and the people always run to Martin Luther King. What is down there on that street that we don't know about. Where the heck is Lincoln Street?
Posted by dottie (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
With his criminal record---what does it matter how
he was stopped. As for drivers in town slowing for stop signs, rather than stopping, SAY IT ISN'T TRUE.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sayitlouder i'm confused what does the mayor finding Canal St. have to do with this and who always runs to MLK St.
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
oooohhhh sayitlouder.....hit a nerve did I?
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think you two guys are sparring because of issues with franching-rights of your username. Help us if a "sayitloudest" comes to town. LOL. (Just messin' guys)
Could anyone go read my 6 pm post and answer my question about the time frame that the ND reported on the chase? Thanks.
Posted by ladybuggs (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WELL THIS MAYBE DELETED AGAIN,BUTI WAS THERE AT THE END OF THE CHASE.SHOTS WERE ALSO FIRED AT THE CORNER OF PRINCE AND PRENTISS ST. WHILE PEOPLE WERE OUTSIDE INCLUDING SMALL CHILDREN. THAT MCDONALD PERSON DRIVE THAT TRUCK ALMOST INTO THAT PLACE WHERE RICKY GRAY WASHES CARS AT,HE JUMPED FROM THE TRUCK AND RAN INTO THE BAYOU WHERE HE WAS CAUGHT BY THE POLICE.I HOPE AND PRAY I NEVER WITNESS ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. I TRULY BELIEVE THE POLICE COULD HAVE DID BETTER TO STOP HIM WITHOUT A SHOOT OUT....MAYBE A ROAD BLOCK.....THIS WAS SO SCARY!
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ladybuggs I've been told that a cop car tried to block his path in Vidalia but he sped up and tried to hit it.
Posted by stateofnatchez (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
crackhead is as crackhead does.......
Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lincoln street is off North Union.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Back to my 6 pm comment, did it really only take ten minutes for this chase to happen in its entirety?
Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
who knows Swap.
Posted by ujusdontno (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no it took 35 min
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NATCHEZ DEMOCRAT PLEASE GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS, BECAUSE THE PUBLIC DESERVE TO KNOW WHOM AUTHORIZE THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND ON A BUSY STREET WHERE CITIZENS OF NATCHEZ FREQUENTLY VISIT AND TOURISTS AND THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. HOW STUPID CAN YOU GET!
Posted by diamonds4u71 (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
yes u must get approval before any actions are taken when it come to gun fire or pit a car or truck. in the atl that officer would be at home now under investigation if he did not get approval for actions. but who knows it may be on cops. bad boys bad boys what ya gonna do what u gonna do when they come for you?
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ONE MORE THING ITS LIKE OUR SHERIFF OFFICE HAS WENT FROM SUGAR TO YOU KNOW WHAT, OVER NIGHT! UNSOLVED MURDERS, SEVERAL DEADLY ACCIDENTS BECAUSE LACK OF PATROL, DEPUTIES RIDING AROUND WITH SUSPENDED LICENSE, AND NOW DEPUTIES GONE WILD! WHATS NEXT? .......... I HATE TO SAY IT BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE STUFF LIKE THIS GOING ON WHEN TOMMY FERELL WAS IN OFFICE!...............I GUESS THIS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU VOTE ON POPULARITY INSTEAD OF QUALIFACATIONS! WAKE UP ADAMS COUNTY! WAKE UP SOMEBODY HAS TRICK US AND HIS NAME IS RONNY BROWN.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
who knows Swap.
Posted by ujusdontno (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no it took 35 min
I was just curious. The ND said ten minutes, and I thought that this guy sure did go a lot of places in only ten minutes. It made me wonder if he was going outrageously fast (say 90 mph) down JR Junkin. Could put into context why the law used the type of force they used. That's all.
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
IT SEEMS LIKE DON'T NOBODY WANT TO SAY IT! CAN I SAY IT? I 'M GONNA SAY IT ANYWAY! RONNY BROWN DO NOT KNOW HOW TO RUN A PROFESSIONAL ,ORGANIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE.THERE IT IS! ......... ALL JOKING ASIDE WE GOT LIVES ON THE LINE AND THIS MAN HAVE NO IDEA OF HOW SERIOUS OF A JOB THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY HAS INTRUSTED HIM WITH. AND SO FAR HE HAS FAILED US ALL.......... HE NEEDS TO RESIGHN!
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Acedog,
You might be able to start a recall petition. If you feel he's that highly unqualified, you should do it.
Posted by molove (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SHOTS WAS FIRED AT THE CORNER OF BISHOP AND MARTIN L KUNG STREET ALSO.,AT THE TIME THE SHERIFF WAS SHOOTING A CHILD WAS PASSING BY ON A BICYCLE.I SAW THAT WITH MY OWN TWO EYES.
Posted by molove (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
SORRY KING
Posted by mscoody (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Damned if they do and damned if they don't! You guys wouldn't know a dangerous police chase if you ever saw one. It makes no difference what the law officers do, ya'll are never happy. I am sure they get in their police cars and ride around everyday waiting for someone to do something stupid so they can give ya'll something to talk about. Good for ya'll. One of these days, one of you will have the mishap of a crime commited against you, and you will be wondering where those police you call clowns are. They risk their life every time they get in their car and ride down the street, the sad thing is they want to do it for all of you unappreciative law abiding citizens. Live a week in Albuquerque, NM or Los Angeles, CA then when you know how many lives are endangered in a real police chase you will have something to talk about. What would you do if there were no police officers? All those innocent criminals would take over you sweet Natchez. This crap ya'll write is only good for nothing but a laugh. It used to be interesting to read what ya'll had to say, but now it's entertainment! There is a murder here every single day, everyone here is very happy to see their police on the street. Good Job NPD, ACSD, CPSO, VPD. Congratulations Kenneth Hedricks!
Posted by justthefactsman (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Shoots should not have been fired in a populated area to begin with. That is to risky. People live in houses and bullets can travel into houses. Should have tried to pit the vehicle before firing shots. Come on now this ain't the wild west boyz. Glad bystanders weren't injured.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mscoody:
Your point is well-taken. I agree with everything you have to say. I don't think people should slam the police like they do unless they have had to walk upon a vehicle full of unknown persons at 3 a.m. on a dark, deserted street.
The only thing I believe should be asked is whether or not pit maneuvers were attempted prior to shots being fired, and subsequently, was supervised authority given (if required) for shots to be fired? I think those are fair questions to be asked.
Posted by mscoody (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
These men and women are TRAINED police officers, sworn to uphold the law. They are doing their best to serve and protect. Does the criminal ask for permission before attacking, killing, raping, kidnaping. No I don't think so, why can't anyone give the peace keeper the benefit of the doubt. I would bet money that every move they made was supervised. If you have ever ridden in a police car you would know they call in every single thing they do, just because we the citizen don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. A car ran a stop sign here in Abq, there was no wild moment for the police officer that stopped him, the car pulled quietly to a stop. As the officer approached the car, the criminal driving the car shot him point blank in the face with a .357 magnum, that simple stop was supervised, monitored, and allowed that murderer to be brought to justice. The streets of Albuquerque were lined with grieving citizens. If you could witness this (thank goodness you don't have that privilege) it would make you appreciate the men that risk their lives for you. Sure they make mistakes, but ...everybody does. I bet there is not one person that can say they don't make mistakes while performing their duties in their own occupation. These men are TRAINED NOT TO MAKE MISTAKES. It makes me so angry for people to sit back and point fingers. I grew up in Vidalia, there is crime there, but nothing like here in these big cities.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mscoody: I have ridden in a police car and that's why I said I understood exactly what you were saying. I agree with everything you were saying. I only said that I wondered whether or not any pit maneuvers were attempted before shots were fired and whether or not clearance was given to fire shots in a downtown area. We can't just assume that the answer is "yes", clearance was given. I don't believe these questions are unreasonable to ask.
Posted by ThornInYourSide (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The cops should have just shot him in the head and dumped him in the mississippi river and saved the tax payers some money on having to feed and house him
Posted by mscoody (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Swapmeet,
Your right, it is fair to ask these questions. Asking the questions is not what makes me angry, it is the stupid ridiculing that makes me so angry. I am happy no one was hurt, I am glad the officers did their job, no matter what. I know there are corrupt people every where, I have the utmost respect for all law enforcement officials, I felt defensive for them. Sorry!
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
BRAVO Mscoody!!!!!!!!! I couldn't have said it better myself. I hope this punk sits in prison until he's old and grey. Judges how many crimes does he have to commit before he gets what he deserves or are you waiting on him to kill someone. Personally besides scaring me to death I think NPD, ACSO, and VPD did a damn good job. Also the supervisor for NPD that let his men do what they are trained to do and go get this punk GOOD JOB.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by mscoody (anonymous) on August 4, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Swapmeet,
Your right, it is fair to ask these questions. Asking the questions is not what makes me angry, it is the stupid ridiculing that makes me so angry. I am happy no one was hurt, I am glad the officers did their job, no matter what. I know there are corrupt people every where, I have the utmost respect for all law enforcement officials, I felt defensive for them. Sorry!
You don't have to apologize to me mscoody. You haven't said anything to offend me. I was just wanting you to understand where I was coming from. I am not one of the people who are on here slamming the police. I have the utmost respect for police. I feel they are highly underpaid for the work, no service, they provide to the community. I just had a couple of thoughts after reading the article and was expressing them in questions. Sorry if I made you upset. Not my intentions. (The only reason I feel you are upset at me is b/c of the ! at the end of your post)
Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mike good job of trying to help ronny brown clean this mess up, but your contradicting yourself, first you say the vehicle wasn't going that fast or your officer would have terminated the chase for safety reasons, then you say its a deadly weapon. come on mike. they screwed up and someone needs to be held accountable. thats the bottom line.
Posted by padlock (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thorninyourside, this statement was truly uncalled for this is a human being who happens to have a lot of issues, sometime we fail to realize that narcotics take over your mind and body, your are under a deep spell, and reality of one's actions are uncontrolled, have you ever watched Intervention, if not you should.
As for mscody, you sound very uptight about the citizens of Natchez comments on THEIR police officer did you get it THEIRS, no sorry this isn't Cali, Chicago, New York or Albuquerque, this is a small town where almost everyone know everyone especially the boys and girls in blue.
Just in my opinion, other measures should have been taken in residential neighborhoods where this incident occured, that required these officers to open fire, bullets have no shame and carry no names, wouldn't it have been sad if some innocent bystander would have been struck, accidents are unfortunate, so maybe the head person in charge, should have thought about the ok to fire and the FAT @## law suit that would have followed if someone was struck.
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Super job and Thankyou to all law enforcement officers involved. Oh and by the way. I am very happy that none of you were hurt during this. As far as the idiot no one crammed drugs down his throat. Therefore I don't care what happens to him. If you hadn't of caught him. Next week he would be robbing someones home and possibly hurting them in the process. So Thankyou again for a job well done.
Posted by lookingout (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 1:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
padlock the drugs is no reason for what he done who really cares about his issues he couldhave hit someone and killed their baby.......he needs to deal with his issues like everyone else deals with theirs
Posted by An_Observer (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 2:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Alright. I have an obvservation so to speak. Acedog, this is directed at you. If you were offered a job at ACSO, would you take it? Or just perhaps, you did have an interview and you simply failed it? It honestly sounds like you are disgruntled and angry on a level that is unhealthy. You should seek professional help. And honestly, typing in all caps, is really bad etiquette.
Posted by asandbb22 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 7:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(acedog) What's your problem with Sheriff Brown and the ACSO, it sounds personal? If you are so big and bold to call for his resignation, how about giving your real name....Waiting.
Posted by MSviaTN (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You have GOT to be kidding me - I do not have time to read all of these comments but the few I have hear just makes me so glad I do not live in that town anymore!!! BRILLIANT!!! The bottom line - the guy was running stop signs and HE decided to run from the cops!!!!!! The cops did not stage this event - they did a GOOD thing - got this idiot off the streets - no one got hurt and hopefully he is off the streets a LONG time now! It really makes me angry when people like to criticize police officers for the quick decisions they have to make - I sure don't see YOU out there trying to protect anyone!!!! YOU go do their job for the amount of pay they receive - maybe then you would SHUT your mouth! Yeah - there are crooked cops but there are crooked people in all lines of work - that's life - deal with it or go live in a hole!
Posted by padlock (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lookingout I am not saying he does not need to deal with his issues so what are YOU talking about, read my post over again if you wish. My POINT was the fact that the cops had a shoot out in a residential neighborhood were there are CHILDREN playing OK, and other measures to apprehend the subect COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN!!!!!
If you are not in the medical profession, then please explain to me how you would know the effects that drugs have on a person.
Of course no one cares about his issues, you pay your time when you commit the crime easily said.
Posted by padlock (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Edit from last post.
Both the officers and Marcus put lives in danger, so I hope that this was a lesson well learned by the police and Marcus, and for whomever wants to act as if they are shooting a video for the top 100 police chases or cops!!
Posted by opinsab (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
just think if he was drunk!! Acedog your comments are pathetic!!! Ronnie Brown is doing a great JOB!!! If my child was three blocks down on canal street, nevertheless crossing the street with his big brother and some stupid fool with five cops cars behind him hit my children and i can see that not one of these cops actually tried to stop him I be looking for an imbecile like you behind the wheel or calling the shots i would literally take you down with the actual driver!!!
Posted by ericstratton (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Two blown tires and still going sixty? Why not use a pit move to disable the car or box him in ? This was
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
acedog why don't you go see sheriff brown I am sure he would love to see you in person than a person hidding he is our sheriff and won by 80% so if you have a problem I am sure he would help you correct it I don't see the sheriff running behind anything come on out in the open acedog
Posted by An_Observer (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I know that pit manuevers look pretty on television but they are more dangerous than a bullet in the tire when a vehicle is going at high rates of speed.
Also, if it had been attempted and several city or county units had been totalled in the process, there would be some that would scream about money for vehicles.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
bottom line sheriff brown and chief mullins are running these departments i did not see them making excuses acedog natchez500 you are right in your post if anyone has a problem with these two men, they should contact the mayor on the chief and the polls on the sheriff. i donot see sheriff brown worried abut you acedog and i am from fayette i am glad to see the two departments working together something that never happened when the ferrels were in office some fools like to try to start things you are wrong here and eye in the sky chief mullins needs to fire you for putting out police business in the street even in fayette officers do not do that
Posted by babev1 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB YALL WHINE WHEN THEY DON'T CATCH THE BAD PEOPLE AND YALL WHINE WHEN THEY DO WHAT IS IT YALL WANT? I THINK THE NEW MAYOR NEED TO LET PEOPLE RIFE WITH THE NPD ON THE WEEKENS AND SE WHAT THEY DO THROUGH THEN YALL WOULD QUICK WHINNING!
Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Ronnie's and Mike's people did great.
Most, not all, of you posters can't read, write, punctuate, or spell. Did you not go to school? Do you know what the 'caps" key is for?
Folks from out of town will think we're all illiterate.
It's a shame.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like this guy is not the fastest car on the track, if you know what I mean....dumb as a brick.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If you can't rehabilitate them, get rid of them! Why does he continue to break the law? Because there is not enough room to keep him in jail. They should have off'ed him when they had the chance, although I am sure the officer enjoyed the tasing.
And the poor people who owned the truck, this guy did not even care about them..
Posted by firered (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh Hardcorps! Thank goodness I'm not the only one that was bothering! I feel brain dead now after reading all this garbage!
Posted by ljd517 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He was not related to the owner of the truck.
Posted by MSviaTN (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You are so right Hardcorps-although I did make a typo in mine-I read these posts all the time and wonder how many people in that town actually know correct english - it really does make Natchez people look a bit "not so smart" - but it is entertaining :-)
Posted by jack (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i am not blowing the horn for sheriff brown, but it seems like he has both the police and sheriff dept working together something that never happened and no one can say different on that in more than 40 years good for sheriff brown and chief mullins we should all give them credit for that seems like the wheel turns better when you work together something concordia parish needs and maybe tapper and sheriff maxwell can do it also the public gets the best part of the deal when agencies work together good job aso and npd for getting this bad guy in jail and i hope he cannot make a bond this time seems like he has had his chance
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
what did eyenthesky say i missed it?
Posted by xfloodman (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with southside, go for the head next time and end it quickly. Why waste all of that gas on this crackhead.
Posted by neverunderstood (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was coming from work when the blue truck that he was driving like to ran smack over me. Something really needs to be done. He like to took my life acting with stupidity. And the police lady that was following him was not a safe driver herself she come right behind him and was about to hit me. She needs to be more care herself.
Posted by squeetlebomb (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks to all of the law enforcement officers involved. Sounds like you did the best job possible. I just want to know what this scumbag was doing out on the streets to begin with. What happened to 3 strikes and your out. Also, I can't believe some of the idiots that post on here. All you are doing is showing your vast amount of ignorance.
Posted by fatherof4 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What difference if shots where fired? They didn't hurt anyone, and the car was stopped. So everything worked as planned. Why all the gripping? All this "could have happened" didn't, so why complain?
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
way to go local law enforcement
I guess they couldn't shoot McDonald as he didn't ram any of the squad cars, or try to run over an officer
Glad they used force to stop him and get him
I'm not for letting them go, even at 100 mph, I say get em and lock em up, and if they resist arrest, beat the hell out of em
McDonald will go away for a long time this time and hopefully without parole this time.
Amen, squeetlebomb, got some true morons taking up for these mini-terrorists
neverunderstood- you need to get the hell out of the way when you see blue lights stupid
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sayitloud - tell that nonsense you are spewing to the criminals
I say shoot em law enforcement, wherever you have the opportunity, it'll save us a lot of red tape, court costs, and time, not to mention tax dollars paying for incarceration. In the county, in the city, if the bad boys want to play rough and won't obey- then give em what they're asking for, a quick ticket to their Maker for judgement. Save us all a lot of anguish, continued violence, and fear on the streets. Take em out and clean up the garbage that seems to be piling up out there on the street. I don't see any point to cutting the bad boys any slack and taking any risks, the officers have their personal safety at stake as well as innocent citizens so any punk that wants to to play rough should get it right back in his face, but even rougher.
Posted by MSviaTN (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeah fatherof4 - kind of what I am thinking - the people complaining are just showing their ingorance
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Krogers, I agree with sayitloud. I only know what I have read from this article, but if they were shooting out the window of a moving car THAT IS NOT SAFE. I am not sure what expereince you have with firearms, but a shoot out a moving vehicle is very hard and can miss very easily. If this was done in a residential neighborhood it could be borderline wreckless.
Posted by RobinBrownHayes (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The way I read the article was that they were trying to shoot the tires out, which is what they did. Bravo!!!!!! I'm glad they have the nads to do what has to be done. Although I no longer live there, I do have family there and want to keep idiots like this guy off the streets whatever it takes.
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike- maybe you can't hit the broadside of a barn when you shoot, but some of us can hit what we're aiming at, whether standing still or from a moving car. I can hit a gallon jug at 50 yards with my .45 handgun (5 in barrel) so I feel confident that NPD or ACSO can hit a car tire at 20 - 30 yards which is what I am guessing the range was. They were shooting DOWN at car tires you know, not UP at the suspect's head, (which may have been a better choice all things considered). But I do appreciate the police's restraint in being patient and only shooting at the tires as the chase wore on and it became quite evident this guy was NOT surrendering without a fight.
and I know the officers have to train with their weapons, so I trust them, and applaud their action (clapping of hands and hoooorrrraaahhhh!!)
Shoot em up GOOD GUYS, take em down HARD!!!!!
I say it's a lot more dangerous to let the bad guys get away and allow them to do more stealing and killing than to take a measured risk and GET EM LOCKED UP OR DEAD!!!
I'm getting tired of you pansies not wanting the punks put away in this town, there is too much crime going on and the only way to stop it is to get tough on the bad boys and I mean tough as nails, make em hurt bad, of course not police brutality or anything, but justified self-defense only.
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Krogers - I'll challenge you to any shoot off you want to have, been shooting all my life, and 6 years in the military. I have shot from the ground, from vehicles and from helicopters and I know how hard some shots can be. Shooting from a moving car, on the terrible roads in Natchez in a residential neighborhood would not be worth the risk.
Posted by caresaboutnatchez (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Great job. Shows what working together as a team can do. These officers involved should all recieve an award for a job well done and thanks for living up to your code to "serve and protect". These officers get paid so little to do so much.
As for "RealNews" and "acedog" maybe both of you should move to Jackson where they have more crime and you can complain how their police/sheriffs depts handle crime there. We are lucky to have both Chief Mike Mullins and Sheriff Ronnie Brown running our law enforcement here in Natchez!! We have good leadership in both depts.
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Natchez - where the police shoot in the streets. Could be a tourist attraction.
Posted by Preacher246 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think I will sell tickets. Any takers?
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If people dont like the way our agencies are run or think they can do better than our policemen and deputies, I hear they are hiring.
Posted by caresaboutnatchez (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Realnews, everyone shoots in the streets of Jackson. I think you need to be there. If you think you could do better job as a Policeman of Deputy maybe you should apply. It takes real guts and real heroes to be in law enforcement. Of course you probably wont make it through the acadamy and the training.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike; I am not here to start an argument. That being said...SAFE? How safe is a doped out ex-convict driving around town in a stolen vehicle, ignoring law officers signals to pull over and blatantly evading and running from them? What else was this character planning for the evening? I agree with another poster that pointed out that the shooting was done at a downward angle towards the tires...a typical police action. Good going officers, and thank you.
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Noneya, I know you aren't trying to argue, and I am not either. I stated when I started this discussion, I only know what I read from the article. I don't know what angle or what distance these shots were made. I do know that a firearm is for taking out people. If they were close enough to use a firearm, then they could have used their vehicle to stop them right? We are all making alot of assumptions, but I think we would all agree that shooting a weapon in a residential neightborhood is dangerous. That was my point.
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
lets all be gald no one was hurt and the bad guy is in jail now again Judges District attorney its your turn looks like law enforcement did theirs for us SEND THIS THUG TO PRISON FOREVER
Posted by gottabehappy (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sounds like another one of our New Orleans Katrina
residents.
Posted by ghostrider (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike , I have also served my time in the military and taken shots from the ground , vehicles and helicopters in combat. Many of the comments I have seen posted here are made from assumptions so I would like to state some facts. The first deputy to fire shots on Canal St. fired one shot at the rear driver side tire. The shot was fired not from 20 to 30 yards but from 5 to 10 yards with a Hydroshock round at a downward angle while he was right beside the truck. The shot reached the objective. The next two shots on Canal St. were fired in the same manner at the driver side front tire and also reached the objective although it did not deflate the tire. The second series of shots were fired while the sqaud car was stationary and well aimed shots were taken and the passenger side rear tire was disabled. Yes , the pit may have been sucsessful at some point but keep in mind this was a large pick up truck capable of tearing right thru a crown vic (especially with out push bumpers). The driver also attempted to strike police cars several times. Under state law deadly force is authorized to stop the suspect , gun or no gun , so the way I see it the Deputies were merciful. This will be my only post , I hope this information has been helpful. God Bless.
Posted by GOLDIE (anonymous) on August 5, 2008 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Which Deputy are you? You sure know alot. If you were involved God bless you and thanks.
Posted by ice (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
while reading earlier i noticed that mscoody mentioned a few cities that are plagued by crime and just wanted to note that she left out the worst....new orleans....i happen to live and work there and can tell you from "hands on experience" if you will, that it is much worse and the people such as acedog havent a clue. the citizens of natchez should be grateful to live there and not have to worry about being robbed mugged raped or even murdered just for being in the wrong place and trust me it happens daily. the deputies acted in good faith and i believe had the safety of the citizens in mind when they took action...there was no malice or intent to harm anyone....if crime in natchez is not stopped now you will no longer be spoiled but will be subjected to the element that i see each day in the big easy....violence out of control...and citizens begging police to do somethin about it instead of critisizing their every move....acedog should spend some time in my town and see what happens when he walks up to a new orleans cop and says, "youre doin a lowzy job". POP!!
Posted by ice (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
O YEA
Posted by ice (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Also ace dog you dont have to call in and ask permission to use deadly force. So let me get this right, if a criminal pulls a gun on a police officer he must say, " wait let me contact my supervisor and see if i get permission to shoot you". No No i dont think so. You got a chip on your shoulder im guessin cause you cant get a job at the S.O. youre prolly a security gaurd at Ilse of Capri drinkin cokes and pretending youre at Broward County S.O. with the white shirts like you saw on cops. By the way a vehicle can be alot deadlier than a bullet.
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I didn't see the end of the discussion in today's article. Why were the comments disabled?
Posted by andy (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 5:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
acedog is so smart thatis why he doesn't know things like he thinks he does
again good for both agencies for taking down a bad guy
what do you want law officers that turn their heads and let criminals take over our town
Posted by VillageIdiot (anonymous) on August 6, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This post was intended for the more recent/updated article on this incident, but as the comments have been disabled, I'll post my comment here.
The headline reads, "Top Officials: chase, shots OK"
Then everything must be OK? Right? Sorry, but what else would these folks say? "I did not have sex with that woman", "I'm not a crook", "I have sinned"...
What's wrong with questioning the actions of our law enforcement officers, when deadly force is applied in the narrow confines of downtown Natchez? There's more than one way to skin a cat isn't there? What's with the "Yer either wid us or agin us" mentality?
If no one voices concern over issues such as the ones surrounding this case, then this simply becomes the status quo. No questions asked - business as usual - shoot first and ask questions later. It wasn't all too long ago that young people died in an accident, the result of a car chase through Natchez. How often do these situations have to occur before law enforcement officials come up with a new strategy or alternative course of action to deal with individuals who seek to evade officers of the law?
This is a small town. Couldn't the perpetrator be picked up later? Are these cruisers equipped with video cameras? Wouldn't video footage suffice for a transcript of the alleged crime?
I do support our law enforcement officials, but I am entitled to ask questions too. That's a right guaranteed by our constitution... and if you don't use your rights, then you are apt to lose them.
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