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Security Supervisor Dietrich Woods keeps a lookout after a new dress code was instated at the Natchez Mall. Parts of Woods’ job includes keeping an eye out for saggy pans, hoods and children roaming without parents.
New rules in place at Natchez Mall
Published Friday, August 8, 2008
NATCHEZ — After a 6 or 7-year-old-child was dropped off at Rivergate Bowling Lanes and not picked up until after midnight, Manager Ann Hash had seen enough.
Hash wanted change, because while this may have been the most glaring example of a growing problem, it wasn’t the first example.
“Parents drop them off on the front door and leave them,” she said of young children.
And a lot of the times, she said parents don’t adhere to normal operating hours of the business.
She said in one situation employees had to ask kids to leave, but no one came to pick them up.
“They stayed outside the building for hours,” she said.
With not knowing whom to call, the responsibility suddenly becomes that of the manager.
So, about a month ago Hash instituted a policy that mandates children under 14 be supervised by a parent or legal guardian on Saturday nights.
Natchez Mall Manager Marie Lofton was soon to follow suit and upped the ante.
While the mall has had rules requiring children under the age of 16 to have parental supervision past 6 p.m. daily, Lofton said she felt it necessary to repost the words on brightly colored fliers on the main entrance doors.
“It had gotten a little lax,” she said.
She’s experienced much of the same — children are dropped off and the mall is used as a babysitting service.
Lofton said a lot of times the kids would be crossing back and forth on the highway, hopping from the mall to the bowling lanes.
Or, older teenagers in charge of supervising younger siblings, would dump them in the mall to go watch a movie at the theater.
“If one got hurt, you wouldn’t know who to call,” Lofton said.
Plus, she said the mall isn’t a place to hang out and goof off — it’s a shopping center.
“It’s a family shopping place,” she added.
Hash said she’s run into many instances where kids will come and basically use the bowling alley as a clubhouse.
“They were hanging out and creating problems,” she said. “We had a small drug problem one night.”
So now, a security guard stands at the door and asks for the patrons’ ages.
“It’s working out great, it’s much better now,” Hash said.
If patrons are breaking the mall’s rules, there parents will be called to come pick them up.
Another rule to abide by now at the mall is a dress code of sorts.
Sagging pants are the main target.
“I’ve had so many people tell me that they’re glad we’re enforcing the droopy pants,” Lofton said.
She said it’s indecent, and that kind of attire isn’t allowed at school, so why should it be at the mall.
Finally, hoods pulled over heads and bandanas are not permitted.
“That’s a gang-type thing,” she said. “I know everybody who wears them, they’re not in gangs, but it’s just not good to do that.”
Security guards are stationed throughout the mall to uphold the rules.
She said breaking these rules would never result in banishment from the mall.
Comments
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 7, 2008 at 11:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Awesome job security. I am astonished that someone would drop off a 6-7 year old at a bowling alley with all that second-hand smoke. They should be ashamed. In my humble opinion, I think that people who drop off kids 10 and under at the mall for hours should be arrested for abandonment and neglect and should have their children taken from them. You don't deserve them. They could be kidnapped by some sadistic pervert who could do who knows what to them. I don't even want to think about it. Sorry, but this upsets me very much.
Posted by grrbrts (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Parents...my gosh...what are you thinking? Again, I must say, do you know where your children are?
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree 150% Swap! These days, you just can't be too careful. How one could EVER drop off a child that age (or even a few years older) is beyond me. I live on a relatively safe and quiet street, but still feel too nervous to let my children play in the yard without me with them. You just never know what danger could be lurking around the corner.
Just as you, it makes me ill to think of what could happen to these unsupervised children mentioned in the article. We can't be with our children at all times, but we certainly must remain vigilant to protect them as much as possible.
Posted by kernel (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm glad both places are putting age limits on the kids who are just being dropped off. But I am especially glad to see that the Mall is going to do something about the sagging pants! My fear is that they will let go of the pants they are holding on to and the pants will fall to the floor!! With or without boxers, I don't want or need to witness that!! Get a belt and put it on!!
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just the other day, my small daughter and I were at a gas station. She said, "Mommy, that man doesn't have any pants on!". I had not noticed anyone nearby, but horrified, I quickly looked around. I saw a fellow putting air in one of the tires on his car. His pants were so low, they were literally below his rear end.
He had on boxers, but my child could not understand why a grown man would not have his pants on out in public. How do you explain this to a 5 year old?
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
eye out for saggy pans, hmmm...ok..
With not knowing whom to call, the responsibility suddenly becomes that of the manager
You call the law...That's who you call..
What in the heck are people thinking i would say parents but,these are not parents..What if someone would have taken one of these children??
scarlettohara ain't it a shame?
Posted by scarlettohara (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why the "no bandanas or hoods on heads" rule?
Honestly, I just want to know. Is it some 'gang' type thing that is considered to be undesirable, or is there some other reason?
Posted by girlscout (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjfdTrElE...
Posted by texasranger (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It,s about time.......Good work
Posted by MayJay (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Child protective services (or the police)should be called when a parent leaves a child anywhere with no supervision. It is not a business owner or managers job to care for an abandoned child. The authoritiets should be notified so the proper actions can be taken.
If breaking the rules does not result in banishment what does it result in? A warning? A fine?
It's kind of funny to get carded going into a mall...but if that's what works....I can't knock it.
Posted by texasranger (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Rules should be at the discrection of the management and owners. If you didn,t have rules they would be bringing machetes to the mall before long..they would keep on and on getting worse and worse
Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great new rule at the mall....that clothing is ridiculous.
Maybe boot out the stores in the mall that sell that crap too?
About the children being left alone, I agree with someone above that said dont babysit, call the police.
That guardian needs to be charged with neglect.
Posted by ntzmom (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who does that? I mean, God intrusted you with a child to raise, and that is how you treat it? Anything could have happened to that baby...do these people not watch the news?
Man that makes me angry.
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:47 a.m.
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Posted by An_Observer (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The truly sad thing about this situation is, that these business owners / managers are not really upset with the indecency or unattended children so much as lack of the money. Most kids are dropped off with a little cash from their parents. It’s only when the money runs out and all the kid is left to do is “hang around”, that’s when the owner or the manager wants to complain. As long as their raking in the cash, they don’t mind.
Don’t start thinking I’m defending the idiot who abandoned their 6 year old, but come on, that would have been all over the Democrat’s front page. That’s if the business owner did the responsible thing and called the police. No police officer in Natchez would have let that incident slide. I’m a firm believer that the root of the problem is with the parents. I don’t treat my children this way. I’m sure the other readers don’t either. I’m just tired of businesses wanting the public to support their decisions on what we think is based on integrity. Most of the time that is far from the case. They’re out to make a dollar, first and foremost.
As we all know, both of these establishments have security. Some even off duty Police Officers and Sheriff’s Deputies. Why the fuss now? If you don’t want teens hanging out at your business, stop catering to them altogether. Teenagers having be crowding at these places long before sagging pants were in style. And about the clothing? What good is it going to do, to set a rule that will not be penalized when broken? The point is they’re not going to use one of their new rules to kick the kids out as long as the kids are spending money. Like it or not, we will still be looking at saggy pants for long time.
Posted by southernlady1776 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 6:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Those managers of the bowling alley and other businesses should have called the police about those children being abandned because thats what it was... underage children alone all day at a bowling alley or any where else for that matter is in fact child endagerment and abandonment and the parents need to be brought up on chrages for that... they have been doing the same thing at wal mart and other places...
Do these people watch the news? I mean everyday you hear of a child thats abducted and never seen again molested and killed....does any of this ever ring a bell? those parents do not deserve children!
It is bad enough you have to worry when they gone to school or to friends to play under supervision let alone something like this.... I know times are hard and babysitters dont come cheap but as a parent you have a reposnisbility to the welfare of your children above any and all else...
If you cant afford to a babysitter ask a friend or family member to watch them or else you need to stay home and do it yourself.... I also know the argument about not having family close by and everyone has to work... I am well aware of all that... but.... if you have a child then you have a responsibility to see that child is safe at all times regardless !!
As for the dress code at the mall.... about time now i wish everywhere else would enforce that because i do not want to see someones butt or other things exposed simply for the sake of fashion.. get a belt it just looks stupid to start with as well as wearing a hoodie in 110 degree weather...
i dont think it is the argument with kids no money but the fact that children wandering around a store and getting into mischief is more like it... I know at the Alexandria mall the same thing was happening and kids were getting into fights inside the mall as well as with adults... this kind of action leads to criminal behavior simply out of boredom and there just isnt that much to do at any mall to start with. The business owners are trying to run a business not babysit someone elses children.
Posted by pbnj (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The mall in Baton Rouge is awesome.
Posted by wifetoone (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gator)) Actually in came from a white rapper, Marky Mark( aka Mark Wahlberg), in 1991.
Posted by diamonds4u71 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i say call the law parents don't watch their kids they don't have time it's time to hit the club. if they pay more attention to them they can see things before it get to far. i think kids should be in they house by 9
Posted by pbnj (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks for the link to U Tube... That makes everything so much more clear.?.??!!!!?????
Posted by mike8427 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Excellent job Ntz Mall, now if we can only start enforcing that dang sound ordinance. I can't stand riding around in town b/c there is always some idiot playing his radio as loud as he can.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I refuse to let my kid leave the house without "who are you with, who are the parents, where do they live, etc, etc." I couldn't just sit up in my house watching Jeopardy while they're doing as they please. And I'll be dammed if I drop them off and run off with my own party. What is wrong with parents today?
I don't know what to say about the droopy pants and hoodie thing. Their mamas know their behinds are showing but let 'em buy it anyway. It's like letting your 14 year old daughter prance around in a halter and tiny shorts. A 14 year old child's body is not to be dressed for and ogled by men. Shame on this world today.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The problem with many parents today is that they did not have an example of good parenting when they were growing up, so they just repeat what they saw .....
I am tired of seeing boys with their pants down around their a-- too. I think it shows a total lack of respect for everyone when they do it, including themselves. But they do not have anyone at home showing them the proper way to dress and they do not have dads standing at the door daring them to leave or come home looking like trash..
It comes back to MTV raising these kids instead of parents.
Posted by Pixieview (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Does it strike anyone as strange that you have to take a test to get a driver's license but anyone can be a parent?
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pixie,
I understand what you are saying, but they will never allow our country to be like China, a place where you have to get a written permit to have children. I do not agree with many people that have children just because they forgot to get their prescription refilled last month, or they wanted another child because they thought it would save a marriage or help them to get more government assistance. These excuses for having children have helped to lead many children into one parent homes. And it does not take a rocket scientist or Dr. Phil to see that this problem is destroying our youth.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
red, not only is it destroying our youth, it's shredding any moral decency we have left in this country. It's socially acceptable to be immoral these days, I guess. Heck, that's the only way to get rights...commit crimes and be uncouth.
Posted by leona (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i just found out the other day, and i assume it is true, that the baggy pants thing originated in male prisons. men would walk around with their pants lower to signify that they are available...charming. while i really don't care or consider it any of my business who someone has sex or a relationship with, i think some of these kids would. since someone said earlier that mtv raises our kids, maybe they could do some fyi about that and educated the kids as to what baggy pants below one's rump really means. i'll bet we would see these tough guys pulling up those pants pretty quick!
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Leona,
Now it has become a "cool" fashion to have your pants hanging down. It does not matter where it origintaed, it has become some kind of fasion icon and now they all think they are cool....
It is sickening to see all the children today with noone at home to help guide them at al. Some mothers are working 2 or 3 jobs to take care of them because they decided to have children with no father in the home...many have children that all have different fathers.....They get a call from police saying there 13 year old has been arrested and they cry and scream....but nothing changes because they are not there daily to guide the child.......Only in America and Africa is this considered to be acceptable behavior.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Haaaaaaaaa leona!!! I can't wait to tell my 12-year old this story. She's gonna love it! That's the best piece of info to spread around on the first day of school!
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Democrat decides to remove my comment because someone didn't like my comment regarding slouchy , saggy pants . Anyway good job Natchez Mall for taking a stand . I agree with a previous poster . Some of us find this exposure offensive and lude . It's not normal looking at all . I saw a kid running from the police recently , sagging like crazy . He didn't have sense enough to pull his pants up . Had he done so this would have increased his speed . If I had my camera that day it would have been on youtube for the world to laugh at . I still have my friends tripping on that crazy event . Be a man and pull your pants up . Or petition some clothes manufacturer to make half-rump pants and really look strange .
Posted by NoWireHangers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well done Natchez Mall! Tightening up your rules is going
to save a life one day. And I agree with the other posters,
If someone breaks the rules and drops off their child, you
need to call the police and have the police explain to them
why it is not good parenting to leave your child unattended
at the mall. Kudos to management for enforcing the dress
code as well! The Natchez Mall is headed in the right direction!
Posted by leona (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i thought so too, kpage! i told my daughter and i thought her head was going to spin off of her body. now she turns her nose up at people who wear their pants like that. it is such a rediculous fashion trend.
hi redusmfan, i don't think the kids that are dropped off unsupervised are those that belong to parents who have 2 and 3 jobs. some maybe, but i think it is more kids of parents who just don't want to be bothered. i think the authorities should have totally been notified.
Posted by leona (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
gator, your story totally cracks me up. it looks so stupid! so many times i just want to walk up and yank them down.
Posted by nascarbabe29 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My thing is I can agree on the saggin pants rule...but I think their should be something done about these girls wearing short tight shorts and short skirts and shirts that show off what they think they have! I've talked to many security guards there and the girls report that they are being harassed by guys....girls open your eyes...look at the way your dressed!
Posted by meluvcookies (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"She said breaking these rules would never result in banishment from the mall." Why not?? Just another way of saying if you do break the rules, nothing will (ever) be done about it. So, what good is it to have rules with no consequences? Did I miss something here?
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I know a man (in his 50's) that told his young son that if he ever caught him with saggy pants on, he would pull them down in front of anyone. I guess the son didn't believe him, because the Dad kept his word (in front of a large group of girls). He never had a problem with that again. O know young people will wear what they want when they think their parents aren't looking, but these parents should not allow them to buy such crap. I would not have been walking around with saggy pants or short, tight shorts. What's also bad is the short, tight t-shirts these young girls wear and they don't even care if the have rolls! I'm not picking on anyone for being overweight at all, but if you are, know that is not an attractive look!
Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:11 a.m.
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Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good one, southside!
Posted by mcmy (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
im so glad these rules are being enforced....especially the saggy pants. im sick of seeing mens underwear. my child goes to cathedral and we see enough of that right outside the school...is there a law against that? parents... if you dont want the responsibility of taking care of your children than stop having them!
Posted by Pixieview (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
redusmfan,
I know our government will never restrict the number of children we have. I unfortunately cannot have children and it really angers me when those who do abuse, neglect and abandon them. I would love to adopt but do not have thousands of dollars to do so. If everyone including teeneagers went through all of the rigorous training, inspections and testing that the adoption agencies do for parents looking to adopt, the children and parents might be better for it.
As for the baggy pants: it is tacky and it did originate in the prison system and if the kids today knew what it meant they would all be wearing suspenders like Steve Urkel.
Posted by destiny (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I wrote a blog six months ago how some parents used outside facilities for free baby sitting services. Most of them are not 'working moms'. They are lazy, trifling people who care less about the precious lives they bring into the world. They do not have any shame in what they are doing to their children. They do not want the responsibility of raising children. They only care if the welfare check or food stamps make it on time. They will sell their food stamps for pennies on the dollar to anyone who will buy them. The government thought they could put a stop to that act by making them electronic but they should know by now that crooks are gonna figure out a way to get around that. All the recipients have to do is tell them their pin # and the person can use the card. It should be mandatory for picture id to be used when paying by food stamps and all stores not following these rules should lose the right to accept food stamps as payment. I have to stand in line behind two sometimes three buggies full of groceries and then watch as food stamps pay for the purchase. This is your taxes at work people. It's time for the public to wake up and stand up to this ATROCIOUS MISUSE of YOUR tax dollars. Show these trifling, no good bums that you have had enough of it.
Good job Natchez Mall, keep it up. It's high time someone enforces rules for these kids now-a-days. The parents certainly do not.
Posted by humorme (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Natchez mall should take anyone they can get.
Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
No saggy pants allowed at the Natchez Mall??
That'll clear it out.
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Alright!!! I am so glad to see this, I've been fighting the same behaviors for years and it can be very aggravating
I have talked with the aldermen about making such rules citywide.
I have gotten in fights and had to escort out many guys that do not take kindly to being told they must pull up their pants or GET OUT!!
Also parents that will not control their children are very disturbing and upsetting. Some parents will get downright nasty and beligerent and come close to starting a small riot or boycott at the mention, however polite, of please controlling their kids. I have had to call the police for several out of control "ladies" in the past.
Not to mention how upsetting it is to witness parents leaving their young toddler age kids unattended in the car with the engine running.
I hope this will empower other small business owners, and the management of chain stores around town, to expect and enforce decent behaviors within their businesses.
Now if we can get Walmart to tighten up perhaps we can instill in youngsters minds around town that thuglife, gangster type behaviors will not be tolerated in Natchez.
In order to clean up our streets we must take such action as a unified community to enforce such ethical, moral, and decent social behaviors without exception.
Posted by ericstratton (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Leona , why do you throw Africa in there with America, because you're stereotyping blacks?I dont think I've ever seen pics coming out of Africa with kids running around with there pants down.Lets also not allow all these people with tattoos and there fat guts who think they arew sexy in the mall
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
scarletohara
well for one thing video cameras are useless in identifying a suspect if they have a hood on and the face is concealed
that's one good reason
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
An Observer-
you make a good point
we should do the right and decent thing regardless of the profit factor
a kid unattended with money or without money should not be allowed, it's an invitation for a tragedy
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
this is a true story and funny
A while back I witnessed a guy trying to cross the highway, he had a drink in one hand, his cellphone in the other, as he went to cross the busy road, his pants dropped and he couldn't walk, it was so funny, he almost got run over, he dropped his drink, managed to get his pants up some and waddled on across the road. I couldn't help but laugh.
Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Funny that my comments about guys exposing thier backsides gets deleted, and yet people walk up and down the street exposing them?
Is there not some sort of disconnect here???
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Was just watching the news and heard that 3 teenaged boys near Atlanta have been arrested for car bombings. They told police they learned how to do it from the game Grand Theft Auto. But "experts" have said there is no connection to violent games and music, and violence on the streets.
Posted by pbnj (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's not just the mall though. Same thing happens at wal mart which is why I don't shop at the mall or wal mart now. They're both flooded with unattended children and teenagers and it's stressful enough standing in check out lines without listening to all that.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The police LOVE to see the thugs try to run from them with their pants sagging low...key word there...TRY! lol!!
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow. I'm surprised at the number of people who agree with the mall implementing a dress code. Whether or not you dislike sagging pants is not the issue -- the issue is a restrictive dress code policy is being implemented in a place where people go for leisure activities.
What's next? Burqas for all women in public? Last time I checked, we Americans were all still entitled to our First Amendment rights.
Is is the clothing that's being banned or the behavior of the people who wear the clothing? If it's the behavior, then that should be addressed, not the clothing.
Posted by muleman (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If something did happen to a child at the mall we would see their "parents" on TV with their lawyer, screaming, crying and pointing ther finger at the mall owners, security etc.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
indecent exposure...ever hear of that, whoa?
Posted by starla (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Plus, she said the mall isn’t a place to hang out and goof off — it’s a shopping center."
And not much of one at that!
Posted by rattlesnake (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You can go to Angola prison rodeo and see just how many prisoners you see with saggy pants.(none) That style came from gangsters and hip hop . The young thought it was cool and tried to imitate it. When my daughters was young and dating they was not allowed to bring boys home that wore saggy pants or their hats on backwards.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Um, yes I've heard of indecent exposure, Noneya. What sort of question is that? Nevermind.
So who should determine what is indecent or not? You? Mrs. Blue-haired lady? 50 cent? Who?
Posted by Qtip (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, pbnj, Wal Mart get the teenagers when the mall closes. I have heard that they go to Wal Mart to run around and hang out.
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
" No saggy pants allowed at the Natchez Mall??
That'll clear it out. "
I don't think so . All these saggers will do is pull their pants up and enter the store . They like shopping and hanging out more than women . It's weird .
Sagging is not a fashion statement . It's lude and almost indecent exposure and there should be a law against it . Some of these young men know this is a rediculous way to dress but they refuse to be their own self . Instead they just go with the crazy flow . Man it's some powerful brainwashing going on with this generation . You have to be out of your mind to think that this stuff looks good .
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gee Destiny, I thought you had written on this forum that you were on assistance? Why is it ok for you to be on Gov. assistance and post comments all day long? Looks like you could get a job too, and then you wouldn't need assistance either. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As long as they have on boxers, I don't care if the pants are baggy. I know some people are proud that they own boxers, and just want to show them off. Some boxers are pretty colorful, and I've seen women wear them as shorts. I'm sure the police hope that criminals keep wearing them strapped below their bottom. That way they will be easier to catch. I went to the bathroom at the mall once, and got behind a guy with his belt strapped beneath his bottom. I thought he looked funny, because he had his shirt tucked in, and that made his body look real long with short legs. Each step he made, his pants got lower, lol... I just knew any minute he was gonna loose them.
What on earth is wrong with turning a cap around backwards, isn't that what some fishermen do when running their boats to keep the wind from blowing off their cap?
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The managers at the mall and at the bowling alley should call the police anytime a child (under 13) is left unattended and report them.
What age was the mother of the 6 year old child left at the bowling alley until after midnite? Was the mother just a teenager?
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
whoa nellie
your first amendment rights have nothing to do with this issue
you come to my house, you go by my rules or GET OUT
private business has every right to set standards for their patrons safety and orderly visitation
At question are the behaviors and the clothes, which as worn are a behavior found offensive by most
If you want to test your first amendment rights go ahead, but you should make sure that you do that in the appropriate place, and get a permit please, not in my business, or not in my city's/county's courthouse, police station, fire station, school yard or classroom, etc. YOu can do what you want at home, anywhere where 2 or more people won't testify against you (the lewd/profane ordinance of MS is an excellent precedent for that). That law is in place, we just have to use it and demand enforcement.
communities have every right to determine what is socially acceptable, or shall I say socially unacceptable
you can do what you want as long as you do not infringe on other's rights to their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
The behaviors at question are found offensive by most people. So don't go hollering FIRE! in a crowded theatre when there's not a fire, that is free speech that is not tolerated, same as NOT wearing your clothes in a decent manner, and NOT tending to your children.
Oh, and ffor berkas, muslim women may not wear them in certain places, per the safety of others, such as in a bank or when receiving a picture I.D. or when a cop pulls them over to check them out, etc.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, if someone owns a business, it is their right to require people to dress as they see fit. If someone doesn't like it, they can shop elsewhere. How is that any different than a sign saying, "Shirt and shoes required"? It's not infringing on our rights as Americans, it's all about respecting one another. I don't want to look at anyone's underwear and can't for the life of me understand why anyone wants to show them in public. Why exactly is it appealing to reach for your wallet at your ankle?
Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We, society, don't allow women to walk around Malls in a bra and panties. Why should we allow men to walk around with their underwear exposed.
If you are in public dress accordingly. It is a matter of good taste and class.
No one at IBM or Microsoft are hiring people with their underwear hanging out.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Very true! Schools require a dress code, alot of restaurants require dress codes - why not the mall?
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well what about women showing cleavage? Shouldn't that be outlawed as well? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlotte-...
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you, Krogers for that rousing lecture on your strong opinion.
Who are we to tell others, besides our own minor children, what's inappropriate clothing outside our private homes?
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I mean no disrespect to anyone, but I think there is a time and a place for exposing too much skin! If you go to a beach or swimming pool, you could expect to see cleavage, cheeks, etc. The mall is not the place for it.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually, natchezsouthside, companies like IMB and Microsoft as well as many other creative businesses have very liberal dress codes. Maybe a better example might have been lawyers or bankers.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, does your aversion to guys in baggy pants with undershorts showing apply also to low rider jeans on females with the thong peaking out?
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm always amazed at how some people look when they leave their house. Don't get me wrong, I'm no beauty queen, but I don't go to the mall (or anywhere else) in my pajamas, house shoes, curlers in my hair or in my underwear! Everytime I go to the mall, I see several people in some scary attire. I'm not offended by anyone dressing in clothes that aren't perfect, but I do think people should cover their behinds in public (whether it's a guy that wears pants around his knees or a girl that wears too short shorts).
Posted by firered (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace007,
I normally like you and agree with you. But something you need to know about Destiny is she is getting on up there in years. She is not physically able to work. I believe she was referring to people who are more than capable of working but sit at home and let all the other tax payers support them.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, peace. Again, I don't mean to offend anyone, but how many years have people been making fun of "plumbers cracks"? When did it become cool to show it? LOL
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Baggy pants with boxers and hoodie sweatshirts don't show skin.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree w/eagles. There's a time and place for every type of clothing. However, I think the mall's policy is not appropriate because it hasn't been very well developed. I mean, what exactly does "no sagging pants" mean? Will an obese man wearing his size 32 Levis be in violation of the mall's policy because the only place he can button his pants is below his gut? There are lots of men like this around town, and the seats of their pants sag and show plenty of skin. Is this okay?
Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I really expect this to get deleted, but oh well. Can the mall get some real stores back, just about the entire mall is catered for thugs and wanna be pimps. New logo for the Natchez Mall, if you want $3,000.00 worth of shoes, a pimp suit, and some really cheesy looking, fake gold come see us.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm glad you mentioned that eagles, once my nephew gagged and almost vomitted when witnessing a plumber's crack.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
True, but they show underwear. I still can't figure out why anyone would want to wear pants around their knees. Why not just wear shorts? I will never understand it.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree. lowrider! Our mall is NOT what it used to be, but I will give them a thumbs up for trying to get started with the dress code. I don't think it means anything at all towards a man whose pants are saggy in the behind because he has to wear them below the stomach. Below the stomach and knee level are entirely different!
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes peace, that is pretty gross!
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
But eagles, that's not what the policy says. The policy just says, "no sagging pants."
That applies to a lot of people. Not just the bad behaving kind.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That's true, whoa. Maybe it's going to be at the manager's discretion? I guess the whole point is that if you are exposing your undergarments, it's too saggy.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Heck, I even had a dress code at home. I wasn't allowed to walk around showing my underwear when I was growing up. It's disrespectful and rude. If I had that dress code in my own home, my parents sure wouldn't be letting me go in public looking like that.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eagles, we both know very well that's not the point of the policy. If it was, there would be many people of both genders and all ages and backgrounds in violation of the policy. Now why would a for-profit entity implement a policy that affected this many of their paying customers?
Posted by firered (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If they wanna go to the mall they gotta pull their pants up. Its that simple. Why is it so hard to do that, or such a big deal. Its not like they can't pull them back down when they leave the mall.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The point of the mall's policy is clear. The policy is attempting to target a specific group of individuals that most of our community find undesirable. If that's the case, then why don't they just say who they want there and who they don't?
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I mean, are they going to give my Dad a hard time when he goes to the mall? He's 60-something and his pants always sag.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It doesn't matter to me what background, ages or genders people are, the mall may gain more business if they enforce this dress code! There are people (I am not one of them) that won't go in places because of this. I remember how much nicer the stores were back in the 80's and the mall was always packed. Nobody was wearing pants around their knees then! I'm not saying that is the reason our poor mall has such bad stores now, but it's not what it used to be - for some reason.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And I feel positive they will not send some guy out just because he has no behind to fill the pants out. I know what the sign says, but we all know it means the waist of the pants pulled below the behind.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whoa_nellie, you answered your own question about your dad. They are targeting a group of people that most of the community find undesirable. That means your dad is safe.
Posted by humorme (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I went to Wal mart this morning and saw a bunch of black kids stopping there on their way to school, all wearing "uniforms". It wasn't what they had on but how they wore it, loose and baggy. There is no way you will get kids to stop wearing clothes the way they want to wear them! Haven't we learned anything?! The more you complain and try to impress what you think the more popular it will become.
Don't be so foolish and quick to forget what they were saying about your generations styles way back when.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That's true, humorme, but the parents go and get these school uniforms for their children. Why do they feel the need to buy them three sizes too large? My mom wouldn't have.
Posted by whoa_nellie (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Remember back in the 70s when the controversy started over men wearing sideburns and long hair? You would have thought the school system would shut down if male students were allowed to grow their hair and sideburns.
Same thing here. Different generation.
This policy intends to do away with something that isn't necessarily disruptive... we just don't like it or understand it and we think it looks dumb. So get rid of it, right?
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
There is a huge difference! We are talking about exposing underwear. That's a far cry from some bushy faced guy!
Posted by firered (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'd rather see facial hair than someone's underwear or butt crack.
Posted by humorme (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Haha exactly nellie! I am guilty of not liking it but then again who is it really hurting? Now if the trend morphs into getting rid of the boxer shorts, then we have a problem!
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hehe, fire - that's what I meant!
Posted by notfromnatchez (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Facial hair isn't that bad, but if they have hair showing from their backside...well that's just not right. LOL.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hey whoa: I'm not a blue-haired old lady! lol! :-) But I do think it's indecent to show your undergarments! I, along with MANY others, don't want to see that! Dress how you want IN YOU OWN HOME, but not in public.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
next thing, we'll be having to look at "skid marks"!! No thanks.
Posted by eagles (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, noneya! That's what I was thinking!!!
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another thing, if I'm not mistaken, those boxer shorts have a slit in front, right? What do we get to see when those baggy pants fall down or some prankster pulls them down? Again, NO THANKS!
Posted by girlscout (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This "conversation" has gone waaaayyyy too far. Simply disgusting!
Posted by natchezsouthside (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
just say no to chest or backside cleavage
Posted by motown (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i think it is hilarious to see somebody with "gangsta jeans" and "tee's to the knee's"...it looks like they just robbed a severly over wieght fella... me and everybody i know laughs out loud everytime we see this... so "gangstas" please keep amusing us.
Posted by missmuzeum (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A friend of mine who was an electrician was once suffering from a severe case of "plumber's crack." I couldn't resist-- I had a dime on me, and deposited it in the "available slot." He leapt up and whirled around to see me laughing hysterically, and always kept his pants pulled up (around me, anyway) after that!
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They gonna hire a fashion police at the mall?
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Never in the history of pants have they been purposely worn hanging off the buttocks . Even the caveman attempted to hide his private parts . There's something freaky going on here when so called young men want others to view their butt .
Who is your leader ? Thug half-rump !
Posted by celty (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I find it hilarious that these thugs think they look sooo cool when actually people laugh at them.They don't even know how to speak the English language.By the way I saw the word lude several times, I think you meant lewd.
Posted by ladybuggs (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A FEW MONTHS AGO I SAW A WHITE BOY CLEANING HIS CAR OUT AT THE MORGANTOWN GAS STATION WITH HIS PANTS SAGGING,HE HAD ..... STAINS IN HIS .HIS GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE? STOOD THERE WATCHING HIM BEING JUST NASTY!
Posted by ladybuggs (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
WHAT ABOUT THOSE BIKER BOYS WEARING THOSE TACKY CHEAP LEATHER PANTS WITH THOSE AWFUL DIXIE FLAG BANDANAS WILL THEY ALSO BE BANNED FROM THE MALL ?I HOPE SO!
Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Celty that was me with the incorrect spelling of lewd . I knew it was spelled wrong but , what the heck . Thanks for the correct spelling .
Posted by jandc1983 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I can read them and say White, black or other. Here are some facts for all races:
The number of blacks in prison is twice as much as other races, simply because the court systems and punishments are different. How many times do you see a white male or females face on TV for committing crimes?
If a white male goes to jail for Coke, and yes I said if, he is usually given a slap on the hand or probation whereas a black male with a crack rock is given 5 to 10 years. How is this fair?
When a White male kills 35 or 40 children at a high school or college, what do the media ask? Oh my, He must have been disturbed. What caused him to break down like that? And then for weeks,we analyze his life from birth to the incident and come to the conclusion that he broke a nail at age six and his mother did not hug him so he must not have felt loved.
When a white pedophile rape or molest kids in church, it's brushed under the rug and he is swept away to another domain to continue raping or molesting some one else’s child. And what is said, NOTHING. Pay the families off. What about the kids who were raped or molested?
When a 19 year Black Army soldier is raped and killed while in Iraq, her Doctor Father and very prominent mother are told, she killed herself by the Army. When her body is returned to the states and an autopsy is performed the father finds out that she was raped multiple times, acid dashed on her body and private parts, face beaten, two front teeth loosened by the beaten and make up was applied to cover the bruises. Oh, did I mention the F-16 she reported killed herself while was actually too long in length for this to occur, because her 4 feet 10 inches frame and short arms made this impossible. She was also reported to have been at the barracks, yet in all actuality, she was murdered at a contractor’s site in IRAQ.
Yes, the saggy pants originated in prison. No it's not just a Black thing. Have you seen the young suburban white kids lately?
Single parents are always given a bad report. If the system was not designed to keep the black man out by making it against the rules for low income mothers to have the fathers live in the home while receiving welfare then, maybe, just maybe, more fathers would be there for their kids.
Have any of you ever visited Kentucky? Per resident, there are more welfare and food stamp recipients in that state than any other state in the country. Oh and I did mention that these recipients are white, many live without running water, no dental or health insurance, and many are mothers before age 15. They have no education past the 6th grade and have multiple kids by age 19.
So, I hope that you all can see that this is not a Black or White thing. Parents should be more responsible for their kids. My son was not allowed to wear sagging pants; my daughter is not allowed to have any piercings and must wear clothes that are respectable.
Oh, by the way, I am a White female who lives in Ohio.
Posted by justthefactsman (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you..I think that the saggy pants should be banned around the world. I am tired of looking at boxer shorts and crack. Thank you. I still can't understand while these people like to walk around with there pants saggin down. If they only knew that that trend was started in our prison system to let the other inmates know there were "Available" to the other male inmates. I bet they wouldn't walk around with their booty cracks hanging out!!! Thank you Natchez Mall..Way to go..
Posted by ProNatchez (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why don't they just wear buttless chaps? That would be about the same as they wear now, but they wouldn't trip over them and get run over when they try to cross the road.
Posted by 3on23 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"If the system was not designed to keep the black man out by making it against the rules for low income mothers to have the fathers live in the home while receiving welfare then, maybe, just maybe, more fathers would be there for their kids."
I really have a problem with this. The system wasn't designed to keep the fathers out but the system figures that if there is a man in the house then he is, or should be capable of providing for his family. I know many mothers who milk the system by not getting married and not naming the fathers so that they may sit at home, have babies and wait on a check that is made possible through my hard work. Oh and by the way I am a single mom.
A lot of these kids fuss about disrespect and people dissing them. Well respect has to be earned and I find it really hard to respect someone who runs around showing their underwear like they are still two years old.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 8, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
People are talking, talking about people, they're busy looking and pointing fingers, but people clearly can't see in the mirror.
This one says that one did, or those did, but they do too, so wassupwiddat
A rich man says those lazy, sorry, no good people are getting food stamps and welfare on the American people's dime, but when his daughter (who's still living at home) gets pregnant, and she gets benefits too, he doesn't think of her as sorry, lazy, or no good, but thinks that she deserves those benefits, because of the taxes he's paid.
I don't normally look into other people's grocery carts and think...my what a large load they've got, let me make sure to get behind them in the check-out so I can see how they pay for all that. Nope, I'm not like that at all, I look for the carts in the checkout line with the least amount of groceries, so I won't be standing too long in the checkout line. I don't ever follow my fellow grocery shoppers out of the store to see what kind of vehicle they are placing all those groceries into either. No, I'm having enough trouble finding my own vehicle after spending hours in WalMart grocery shopping.
But, I have gone to WalMart and bought groceries for someone with a new baby "with her food stamps card" and put the groceries in "my new vehicle" and then carried them to the new mommy's home, so she wouldn't have to take her new baby in WalMart.
Posted by Whisper (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 12:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I find the sagging pants just as disturbing, as a woman that wears low cut blouses. And the thong thing someone mentioned earlier. I resent having to be put in the position to look away. What about the little kids that have to see all of this too? Can anyone remember the day when a womans slip showing caused a stir and a rush to the bathroom? Come on folks, just cover up, theres time and places for such exposing attire. If at a young age kids think it's ok to expose themselves like that. What will they be like as adults.
And one last thing. For those folks that play those booming radios going down the road. You are nothing but rude idiots. I have ear problems. You cannot know the pain I suffer when I hear one of those. And the longer I hear it the tenser I get. Where I find myself wishing that your car will blow up with you in it.
Posted by leona (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 12:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ericstratton,
i did not say "africa" in my comments. redusmfan did when he was posting. i have seen this snappy little trend used by all races and ethnicities. my whole frustration with this is not what color the kids are that do it, but how dumb it is and how stupid it looks. what logical purpose does it serve? none.
Posted by hopefloats (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 1:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I feel almost embarressed for the guy that wears his pants down below his butt when i walk behind him, he would feel the same way if he saw what we saw...and the ones that keep pulling their pants up..that has to be annoying to them to keep doing that over and over and over. I will be glad when that fashion trend ends. The loud music annoys me...i don't care to hear the words to your songs...you'd pbl. hate mine too...I esp. don't like the ones with the cheap speakers. I agree that the mall caters to bad fashion. Why can't we get good shops in there? Have they ever tried to get something good in there?
Posted by pbnj (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
whoa_nellie
How would you explain to a child you obviously don't have, that you have always taught that it is inappropriate to grab at your private parts, about the men (black and white) that are actually holding their d_ _ _s to keep the pants that are already showing his butt from falling to the ground. Just wondering, since you are so wise, you could suggest an explanation for me to use next time my child asks this.
Posted by NtzRiver (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The reason these uneducated idiots sag is b/c they see what these prisoners do. The prisoners sag b/c it takes away the time when they have jail relation behind bars. So when you see these kids and men showing their butt, it only tells everyone that like to swing on the other side of the fence. I'm not bashing people of the homosexual group, its just what I observed and discovered. And when they grab themselves it only tells everyone that their is nothing but voided space.
Posted by NtzRiver (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Natchez Mall needs a makeover. For one thing their are too many fake gold stands. Also, whats with the small clothing shops. The only store to goto is Belk and JCPennys. I wouldn't even call it a mall, more like a flea market. New name "NATCHEZ FLEA MARKET". If I was Belk or JCPenney I would shut down and relocate. Needs to be like the one in Pearl with the outside shopping center. The mall manager either needs to set standards or find another career. Also, their should be guards at every enterence. If parents leave theirs kids their they have to give them a contact number and sign in sheet. If they try to sneak them in from parking in the back then our police dept would be happy to take the kids home and write a HUGE fine to the parents.
Posted by NtzRiver (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets reach to our aldermans and mayor and lets ban saggy pants for this city. If caught pay a fee which would go back into the city. Hit these people where it hurts, in their wallet, wait they dont have anything b/c they are not working and hanging around the mall wasting time and not looking for a job. But still Natchez needs to upgrade and catch up with the times. Also, I think it would be great if Natchez ban smoking in public places. Their would be more places to sit in resturants.
Posted by humorme (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lets ban everything. Ntzriver should be crowned supream leader and we will be in a utopia. No saggy pants no smoke. Heaven
Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(Posted by NtzRiver: Also, I think it would be great if Natchez ban smoking in public places.)
I agree NtzRiver. Or put them in a place where you can't smell it. Case-in-point: When I go to Shoney's, I get on the side where you make your salad, and all of the smoke makes me just about lose my appetite. I also feel sorry for the children who parents drag back into that carcinogen infested section. I've seen infant to 2 yr. olds back there having no idea the damage that is being done to them. It's about as bad as them being caught in a car with cigarette smoke.
Posted by peachpit (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
HORAY FOT DIXIE! And the leather pants aren't cheap.
Posted by destiny (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace007, I have no idea who pulled your string for you to write such comments but I am free to voice my opinion whenever I so chose just as you do. I am not on public assistance. I worked from the age of 14 until illness prevented my continuing work at age 67. I am now 70 so if you can find me a job where I do not have to stand and can be allowed to recline my body every two hours because of pain I would surely appreciate that great gesture from you. I could use the extra money. Was that your daughter you took to Wal-Mart to shop and then took her home in your new car? If so then maybe you will allow me to extend congratulations, best wishes and God's blessing on her new precious bundle from heaven. I haven't at anytime ever in any way belittled anyone who needed public assistance. That's what it's there for and it is a great blessing when needed. BUT PLEASE NOTE THE WORD NEEDED. It's a great difference than DEFRAUD, which many lazy, shiftless sub-humans specialize in.
Posted by destiny (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
>>>>firered<<<< Thanks much, you always help brighten my day.
Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I remember the day the mall opened. I stood in line with four kids (two in strollers) behind me. I along with everyone was excited that we would be getting a nice decent mall. But look at it now.
As for the saggy jean they probably buy them at the mall. I think it's terrible that parents allow their teens to go out of the house looking the way they do.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Destiny, don't you live in section 8 public housing? And didn't your granddaughter buttercup say her mother was on drugs and raised them on welfare, food stamps, and embarassed them at Christmas by making them go to the Santa thing in Natchez for Christmas presents, and then went on to insult all the business people who sponsor that function by saying she hated to smell the alcohol on their breath?
So, why are you looking into other people's grocery carts and checking to see how they pay? That's what you wrote in your above post. You don't know whether or not they are scamming the system, just because they pay with food stamps...like your granddaughter's mother did. And just maybe judging from some of buttercup's comments, you didn't do so well as a parent yourself!
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace you are one crazy sorry person. The only reason I see that you attack others is because you are totally insignificent yourself. You have no right to say anything about anyone on here. We are all equal, until you make yourself less so by your stupidity which is shown in every post you make. All you like to do is talk bad about people, especially those you don't agree with. I suggest you get a grip on reality and get a life. BTW did you see your hero Osteen's wife was arrested for assulting a flight attendent?
Posted by squeetlebomb (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thank you Natchez Mall and Rivergate Bowling for standing up for YOUR rights.
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
well, if you like sagging, go ahead and wear them that way, but you will get thrown out of my store
and the mall
and most decent places around town
if you don't like it, that's tough, do something about it, cause a disturbance in my place, you're going to jail
and I think you will find that the security guys in the mall will do the same, arrest you and hold you till the police come. Get over it, and behave, or suffer the consequences fool. You can go naked in front of your children at your own home if you want, but that sort of indecent behavior will catch up to you.
Posted by ThornInYourSide (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Everyone Guess What I Just Heard? The Natchez Mall is hiring MICHEAL JACKSON as one of their security guards!!!! That should cut down on the amount of little kids left at the mall.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Probably not thorn, these parents who leave their kids just don't care.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
freedom coming from you, I accept your comment as a compliment.
I was only pointing out to Destiny that for her to bash others for being on food stamps is like the pot calling the kettle black. She's the one who said she lives in a section 8 apartment and gets food stamps. Click on her name and read all of her post if you don't believe me. But, she must be jealous of those who receive more than her measley $10 in food stamps, since she's bashing folks who can buy a whole buggy or two. And her son or daughter was a receipient of assistance too, for buttercup to have been raised on handouts, and buttercup is the one who told that. I was only asking why she feels the right to look into other people's grocery carts when she gets a little peice of the pie herself.
And as a matter of fact, the person I was speaking of aiding by going to grocery shop for her, was a black neighbor friend of mine who had a newborn baby and a five year old son Her husband had run off and left her while she was pregnant. I also babysat her baby and son for a time when she went back to work.
I've gotten assistance myself years ago, back when Bill Clinton was in office, and I know for a fact that he began a program that was to help people get off of assistance. It wasn't easy to get assistance and every 6 months I had to recertify and show proof of my income and my children's, if they had income. And if I knew for a fact that a person was abusing the system, I would report them.
Posted by dixiemama (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
(Peace007) (destiny) has never been ashamed to tell about her hardships so why do you drag her through the mud. Not only did you belittle her you had to bring her granddaughter into it. That's shows what a little person you are. Maybe you should read back on your comments instead of destiny's & see how see what ignorance really is.
I'm sure there is a lot of smut that we could find out about you if we took the time to read all you silly comments.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 9, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, it is time to move on from this subject people..I congratulate the Natchez Mall on trying to control the young people coming in and out of their doors. Call the police and bar them forever if you really want to make a point.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 1:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
oh dixiemama, you're a fine one to talk...pffft. I thought it would be more fun to read YOUR comments, so I clicked on your name...seems you've given destiny and buttercup waaaaay more mud dragging time, than me. Click on yourself cp.
LOL. You and destiny have both revealed way too much private information, and should changed nics, especially when making such nasty comments to bring attention to yourselves. I hope neither of you jerk the wrong chain. Really, go back and read your nasty comments to buttercup and a few others.
Posted by destiny (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
007, you are just a small minute particle of what is wrong with our great America. You are one of the of the minority groups that think the world cares what/who you hate/think. Your despicable hatred for others is very clear. News flash for you! The universe does not center itself around you and your kind. I will not waste my time or intellegence with you anymore. Your attitude and hatred for others are just not worth it.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Listen, children, to a story
That was written long ago,
'Bout a kingdom on a mountain
And the valley-folk below.
On the mountain was a treasure
Buried deep beneath the stone,
And the valley-people swore
They'd have it for their very own.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.
So the people of the valley
Sent a message up the hill,
Asking for the buried treasure,
Tons of gold for which they'd kill.
Came an answer from the kingdom,
"With our brothers we will share
All the secrets of our mountain,
All the riches buried there."
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.
Now the valley cried with anger,
"Mount your horses! Draw your sword!"
And they killed the mountain-people,
So they won their just reward.
Now they stood beside the treasure,
On the mountain, dark and red.
Turned the stone and looked beneath it...
"Peace on Earth" was all it said.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.
Go ahead and hate your neighbor,
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of Heaven,
You can justify it in the end.
There won't be any trumpets blowing
Come the judgement day,
On the bloody morning after....
One tin soldier rides away.
Posted by dixiemama (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Peace007 I hope you read the poem well because you could learn a few things from it.
"Go ahead and cheat a friend."
You cheated a friend when you told personal things about the neighbor you so "gracefully helped" You should have never bothered looking up the lyrics to a song that you do not live up to.
I admit when I first started commenting I made some personal comments, but it didn't take long to discover there were vultures like you lurking in the dark.
(destiny) you could not have said it better. We should put this parasite away & forget about her she's not worth getting in an uproar about.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
One Tin Soldier (song) is a ‘60s era anti-war song written by Dennis Lambert and Brian Potter. The Canadian pop group Original Caste first recorded the song in 1969. The track briefly reached limited popularity locally and reached Number 34 on the American pop charts in early 1970.
Always give credit where credit is due.
I copied the credits from Wikipedia.
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on August 10, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh no, I miss yall already. I didn't know I was commenting to the opinion police who only allow their own opinions. Is this really the soviet union?
The neighbor doesn't live in Natchez, Dixie. It was years ago, and I didn't give her name. I was using her story, as a parable, to prove my point about food stamps.
put this parasite away? Sounds like a cyber threat. Why does the Democrat allow cyber threats?
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