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Teenager stabs, kills man in Ferriday

Originally published 10:26 p.m., August 17, 2008
Updated 12:30 a.m., August 18, 2008

It was reportedly an escalation of a verbal altercation that resulted in the fatal stabbing of a Ferriday man, allegedly at the hands of his step-grandson.

When police arrived at the scene at 320 Iowa St., they found Gregory Conner, 42, stabbed once in the chest.

Conner and his step-grandson allegedly got into a confrontation that led to the stabbing, Ferriday Investigator Johnny Evans said.

Conner was transported to Riverland Medical Center, where he was later pronounced dead.

Conner had reportedly told his grandson to come into the house because there was a conversation going on in the front yard that involved some cursing, and Conner did not want the juvenile to continue in the conversation, Evans said.

The step-grandson reportedly did not want to come in, and the two got into an argument.

“Some words were passed and the juvenile went into the kitchen and retrieved a knife,” Evans said.

No one else was involved in the incident, Evans said.

The teen was charged with second-degree murder.

The Ferriday Police have not released the name of the juvenile at this time because they are still deciding whether or not to charge him as an adult, Evans said.

Comments

Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on August 17, 2008 at 11:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here we go again.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doubling the story doesn't give us any more info than printing it once. LOL

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 1:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok wonder who the female and boyfriend was this time, lol

Posted by toosweet (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lowrider I don't really see a reason to "laugh out loud", and it wasn't a female and boyfriend.

Posted by jammin1 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 1:51 a.m.

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Posted by lookingout (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 2:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well we had one day with just drugs no murders

Posted by Babbiegurl1 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 2:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And they say Ferriday was bad when Gene was in office. It has only gotten worse

Posted by voices_08 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 2:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is sum sad new to hear ....

Posted by bayoubengalsfan (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 3:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That depends on who you talk to Babbiegurl1 as to whether it is worse. Frankly, I think Glen is doing a magnificant job with what he had to start of with.

Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 7:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sad. :>(....14 and his life is off to such a sad thought. Maybe if he did not see death and destruction around him all of the time we would not be seeing this in the paper today....

I guess blaming it on rap music and the like will only get me in trouble, but Your mind reaps what it sows...so if you sow garbage into your mind everyday, your life can only reap garbage.

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

music does have a big impact on our teenage lives. & rap does have some very bad lyrics but no where does it say go kill someone. that i know of anyway.

some teenagers just can't hold their anger that well & this boy's grandfather prolly just kept on him bout stuff. everyone gets mad & just has different ways of taking it out. i'm not sayin murder is the right choice at all. but maybe he didn't have anyone to turn to.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wow this is getting to be commonplace in Ferriday.
That is why when I have to go thru Ferriday --I go THRU Ferriday.

Posted by opinsab (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Put prayers back in the school!! Have really big paddles there too. Punish parents for letting their kids drop out. Out past curfew arrest the parents. Time to stop all this non sense!!! It all started with Prayer! We saw the change and now i believe it might be to late unless we do something NOW!!! Or just stay ock up inside your own house because the kids are out there murdering your neighbors. Do nothing!! I could hit closer to home the next time.

Posted by Lily_Dream (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People, are we reading and comprehending here??????

This is not Gang violence! This is not some alley attack on a person going the wrong way! This is an attack from one family member to another of the same. Many of the crimes that are committed and reported in Ferriday are usually family on family crime. This in itself is sad. One would wonder what happened to the old addage, "Blood is thicker than water, family sticks together like glue on a postage stamp". It seems that many people have forgotten about or perhaps just don't care for what foundation their existence was built upon.

Look at the age differences here. A 42 y.o "STEP-GRANDFATHER", stabbed to death by 14 yo "STEP-GRANDSON". There is a very young mother or father caught up in the middle somewhere in all of this, who perhaps was more of a playmate(in age,that is) to this young man than a parent.

I am not "Low-Blowing" this family at all. I just see that there are so many "young" and "too-young" families that have been created;Yet they lack the full understanding and teachings of life because they themselves had to grow up early.
Gone are the days where you see generations of families taking up a row of seats at church. We need to get out of the streets and get back into church.

I pray for this situation and this family. My heart bleeds for this young man who was taught that the only way to deal with your anger was to act out. I know we do not have all the facts yet, but I am calling it as I see it in print.

Posted by sobeit (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I stand corrected. Too early in the morning and not yet enough coffee.

Posted by sobeit (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lily Dream - The article states the man that was stabbed was the STEP-FATHER not the STEP-GRANDFATHER. Still really sad.

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Step-GRANDSON sobeit.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sorry, Sobeit, but the first sentence of the article says that it's his Step-grandfather. I agree with you. This is really sad. This world is getting crazy. People are going the way to solve things, now-a-days. I just hope the Lord will have mercy and grace on the teenager. That's all I'm worthy enough to say.

Posted by MARIE (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

to everyone that is posting comments this man was noway at all abusing this child or anyone else in the family

Posted by chevytuf (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It says step grandson so it would make him the step grandfather....

Posted by MARIE (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

these times are not right because i posted after sobeit in ref to swapmeet

Posted by Firstldy98 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My heart goes out to the family. Just pray and ask god for forgiveness, because he's the only one that can help this young man now. No one know what happen are why it happen: but we should all keep this family in our prays.

Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sayitloud, we all know you are racist, you should not even try to give your opinions concerning anything from Ferriday.

As for Mr. Conner,Poor guy, wonder what motive was behind this, 14 years old is pretty young. Was abuse involved??

Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is really sad. I hope the family can find some way to recover from this tragedy. I've already seen comments blaming everyone in this situation. The reality is that it's no telling what went on. This step-grandfather could have been abusing this boy or someone in the family, or this teenager could just be one cold-hearted killer. The point is we don't know. I'm sure we'll know more tommorrow.

I do want to respond to the rap music comment. Someone said that rap music is bad but it doesn't tell people to go kill others. It's been probably ten years since I listened to the trash as a young'un, but I know that some rap music advocates violence as a way to accomplish some things. I'm not saying that this has corrupted our kids (although I believe it does), but that's a debate I'll leave up to the rest of you all.

Posted by sobeit (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what happens with the post time on these comments? It is only 9:31 and there are already 9:58 post times. My 9:30 post was - I stand corrected. Not yet fully awake.

Posted by dottie (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Could we wait for some facts?

Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sad, sad, sad. Period. Sad how some people think on this, too.

If I was getting beat or witnessed my mother getting beat, I'd tell every cop I met about it. What if this kid HAD told everyone he knew and no one would help him? What if the kid was bad bad and the parents tried all they could do and no one would help them? We just don't know, do we? The story is filled with empty spaces that we can only fill in at our whim.

Posted by babygirl77 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The best thing to do is pray and keep the families of these terrible incidents, in our prayers.

Posted by lambchop (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Babbiegurl1 -- what does having Gene or Glen in office have to do with a family murder? Why do some of you always go after whomever is in office?

Question: Since you blame whomever is in office for this and other crimes, who do you blame for what goes on behind your closed doors?

Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NTZ DEMOCRAT PEOPLE.....WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE POST TIMING ON THIS THING? i JUST POSTED AND IT CAME UP TOTALLY BACKWARDS.

NTZ DEMOCRAT PEOPLE...WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE POST TIMING ON THIS THING? I JUST POSTED AND IT CAME UP TOTALLY BACKWARDS.

NTZ DEMOCRAT PEOPLE...WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE POST TIMING ON THIS THING? I JUST POSTED AND IT CAME UP TOTALLY BACKWARDS.

Posted by Hardcorps (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

XXBeautifulDisasterXX said:

Some teenagers just can't hold their anger that well...and the boy's grandfather prolly just kept on him bout stuff...not sayin murder is the right choice... but maybe he didn't have anyone to turn to.

So murder is a choice huh???? A teen ager better learn to hold their anger???? That was the stupidest post I think I have ever read in over 10 years of blogging. This shows a mentality that is primitively frightening.

lowrider they "prolly" were argufyin' over the same female.

Posted by mrsdcc (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People are aways critizing our young people saying rap music is the reason for them doing bad things. Thats not always true. Some times children feel as if they don't have any one to talk to about their problems. If they go to the counselors office at school, the counselors calls their friends and tell them what the child has told them and the childs confidence is thrown out of the window. Sometimes its best to get to the bottom of things before you start to say what caused a child to do whatever it is he/she has done. While working in the school system, I have found out if you show a child respect they will show you respect and do just about anything you tell them without any hassel. It has gotten to the point where everybody is always talking about other peoples children and their children are getting away with murder. Especially teachers and preachers children. Stop talking about the children and try to help them. As the old people use to say, "it takes a village to raise a child". Parents please listen to your children when they are trying to tell you something. This day and time we have a lot of young teacher in the school system that are just there for the pay check and not to help the children. Teachers get your life in order and stop talking about the kids and what their parents did in the past and help them and maybe we want have to hear about our young people getting into trouble.

Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

plenty of facts

grand dad is dead, needless death, they got the kid that did it, and it's easy to figure that the kid was rebellious to the discipline grand dad wanted to enforce, grand dad didn't retaliate with enough and didn't want to kill the kid............. that's the way I see it

Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mrsdcc,

okey dokey. .......I can't believe what I read on here....Have a great day.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's called crack....

Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what a tragedy

what can you say

crazy kids

kinda puts a dent in the gun-control theory, that controlling guns will cut violence, all these stabbings goes to show, a violent person will pick up whatever weapon they can, it doesn't matter - club, knife, gun, bottle, baseball bat, etc-

14 yr old will probably get off pretty easy, but I hope not, lock him up for a long time and figure out what's going in in that family- probably a soft mommaletting this little punk run the street and ole granddad trying to straighten him out, so the kid figures he can get away with disobedience and one thing led to another..............

I know this is politically incorrect to say, but -- is this a black thing? all these stabbing are by black on black people?? I pray that the black community will try to activate a moral upheaval and stop these crimes somehow.

Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

amen Hardcorp

this kid had lots of people he could have turned to

how about the local preacher, social services, sheriff, police, his mother, a neighbor, ....................

Posted by aak1972 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow so many conclusions so little facts!!!!!

Posted by aak1972 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didnt read anything about granddad disciplining or any other motif. So how are you coming to any conclusion??

Posted by overthehill60 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Really sad. Let's not jump to any conclusions until we learn more facts. This may be another case where the young boy had to put up with constant abuse while his Step Grandma allowed it. Just a theory. Killing him was not the answer, but we don't know what went on, the Step Grandpa may have tried to kill him. So let's just wait for this one to unfold.

As for rap music just imagine 20 years from now it will be considered the oldies goldies. THAT'S SCARY!

Posted by sayitloud (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

to the comment that rap music advocates violence such as this....WTHell happenend to common sense??

Posted by mzlouisiana (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i knew the name killed and the young who killed him. i just want to send my praies and love out to both families.

Posted by emissary (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Someone who commits murder in today's society does not deserve a second chance other than reincarnation. Execution at high noon the next day will speed a murderer toward a better life.

Posted by mrsdcc (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's correct lets not jump to conclusions. No matter how we raise our children we cannot stop a persons mind from clicking. We all have children and all we can do this day and time is pray. We all need to stop critizing and pray everyday that every child gets the help he/she needs. No, I am not saying he should not be punished for what he did but lets get the facts.

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 3:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

& countrygurl2010

you're right. this is very sad.

Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what i would like to know is how old is this young boy is,to think that this young boy showed no respect,how can people say we need not to jump to conclusions, this is an under statement. what drug was he on,cause if his temper was this bad someone had to have seen it before. this is a sad thing that happened. does anyone know who he was argueing with outside the house. what is this world coming to. GOD help us all.

Posted by forgottenone (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think we should not jump to conclusions we don't know all the details and true he was wrong to let his temper go that far but lets know the whole facts of the story before we past judgement. Or better yet those who don't have kids or don't keep their kids shouldn't be trying to tell people how to be a proper parent.

Posted by countrygurl2010 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is Sad ='(
gah.

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hardcorps...

I said in my comment that some teens can't hold their anger very well but that doesn't make murder right. wanna go read it again?? i'm not tryin to be mean but you just turned everything i said into something its not.

my comment wasn't stupid. it made very good points bout rap music & hwo the kid could have possibly had no one to talk to bout this. seriously go read it again & if you're still having problems I'll be happy to help you with them

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you're right countrygurl2010

this is very sad

Posted by countrygurl2010 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah some teens have anger issues but they shouldn't go and stoop that low to go and do that to a relative. that is the most worst thing that someone can do is go and stab someone.

i think your right XXBeautifulDisasterXX

yeah kids do need someone to talk to when they know that they are havin probs b/c they result to those things.
NO ONE wants that.

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thank you for agreeing with me. i wasn't tryin to say "ok you have no one to talk to. go kill whoever is bothering you"

teenagers really don't have many ppl to talk to. school councelors don't help, they tend to make things worse. no offense to anyone on here who might be one. & parents either don't take you serious or don't know what to say. thats how my parents can be.

i'm just goin off personal experiences here. but i understand if no one agrees with me =]

Posted by countrygurl2010 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah they don't help sometimes.
but then there are your friends.
i know that i have great friends that i can go to when i have a prob with someone.
so make sure that you have great friends that you know won't say anything behind your back and that you can talk to about anything.
but yeah he needed someone to talk to and to lead him to the right thing.

this just makes me rly sad though just to think about it.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The poor grandfather was probably raising this brat because his momma's on crack and there is no baby's daddy.
He killed this man because he didn't want to come inside the house...good grief!

Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just listen to yourself you pathetic enablers

you're trying your best to make excuses for this punk killing his grandfather

that's what's wrong

that's what's allowing these kids to get away with this visciousness

you want to find a way to give them an excuse for it

you refuse to see the truth right in front of your face

so many of you pathetic loosers don't understand how the little things,-- small episodes of disobedience and disrespect-- build and escalate into out of control violence and tragedy

you need to go back to your prayers and NOT SPARE THE ROD, there has to be an answer and we all know where that answer is

Posted by gator (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We need the old Mosaic biblical laws for this crazy society we live in . That murderous kid should be tried as an adult . An eye for an eye . If you kill , you should be killed . He ran into the house , retrieved the knife and used it on his grandfather . I hope this punk get what he deserves for killing his grandfather . This is a disgrace !

Posted by acedog (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

another sad case of domestic violence, i beleive every murder in the miss-lou so for this year, all were domestic violence except one.i think with the econmy so tight its causing a lot of tension in homes.making existing family problems worse.

Posted by Swapmeet (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

(Posted by acedog: i think with the econmy so tight its causing a lot of tension in homes.making existing family problems worse.)

I'm sorry to disagree with acedog's comment, but anytime there is a crime, be it theft, murder, or drugs, invariably someone says that the economy plays a role in it.

Now I am not tooting my own horn, but my wife left me in May. She had me quit my full time job nearly two years ago so I could concentrate on school full-time. I have had my daughter, who I have been the primary caretaker of and love dearly, taken away from me every other seven days. I had a little substitue teaching job but was encouraged to keep doing that and not drop out of school so I could continue on to graduation. I took 25 hours of school this summer, am taking 12 this fall, and will be student teaching before I graduate in May of '09. I am living off of college loans because my little bit of substituting teaching doesn't even pay my gas bill. The point is that I have been sad at moments, financially strapped, and have just had a hard time emotionally and fiscally. I sometimes wonder where money will come for my groceries. One thing I have not done is resort to violence or stealing because I know better. Beyond that, I haven't even looked for government assistance of any kind in the form of welfare checks, food stamps, medicaid, or federal housing (I probably wouldn't qualify anyway because of our joint filed tax return from last year). The one thing that has been solid through all of this is Jesus, but most of you know where I stand on that.

To put it simply: Hard times are not justification for violence or crime. I still have a roof over my head, clothes on my back, running water, food, a truck, and internet to do research for school. Probably 75% of people elsewhere in the world do not have what I have. We need to put it all in perspective and realize how much we really have. Sorry to get on a soap box but I feel strongly about this.

Acedog: this wasn't directed at you. I've seen a ton of people on here take this a lot further than you did. Hopefully no hard feelings.

Posted by dfbrown68 (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THIS IS SO SAD. PENNY WAYNE WAS HIS NICKNAME AND HE WAS A GOOD GUY JUST TRYING TO GUIDE A CHILD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. HE LOST HIS BEST FRIENDS RON(SHORTY) AND WILLIE LEWIS. LORD THIS IS SAD

Posted by JENNYB (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 12:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My prayers and deepest sympathy goes out to this family that has lost both of their loved ones a son to the system and a stepgrandfather to the hands of the son. It is not our place to judge or lay blame only GOD has the authority to do so. Look to the LORD in this time, is the only advice that I can give anyone in this family don't turn your back on each other and stay strong for one another. My families prayers and sympathy is with all of you.

Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 1:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

to forgottenone,how can you be so blind,i agree with krogers,these kids today don't get their backends whipped at all these days,cause of parents are afraid of having law called on them or parents just don't care. i have kids and they know what respect means and if they get out the way,they know they are looking at their as.. being tore up.my kids know i love them,or i wouldn't take time to teach them better. now as for this boy,no i don't know the whole truth,but he did kill his g-dad and didn't think twice about it,so i say try him as an adult don't let him slide,cause if that happens then the law isn't doing their job or jobs.

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 2:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hate to say it but i have played some violent games, listened to rap, rock, metal, and a few other things that my parents may or may not have opposed of. Yet, I have never killed anybody. Its all a matter of how a kids was raised. My father and mother, hell the whole family kept me and my cousins all in line. They showed us everything we needed and that even included discipline as much as a pat on the back. The problem IS when the government took discipline out of schools they took away the only discipline that some kids ever knew. I remember when I got in trouble in school, the teacher would paddle me, the pronciple would be waiting to issue licks to me, and they still called the house. I thank god for every little lick that I got or I might have wound up like some of these wanna be thugs. I graduated in 1995 and the crap went down hill from their. Think about it how many shootings, stabbings, and other violent crimes were around back pre 1995. What parents need to do is spend time with their kids, discipline their kids, and give them a that a boy, when they do right. But the truth of the matter is that most parents today worry about themselves and could careless what their kids are doing, as long as they leave them alone. PARENTs wake up when your teenager is driving a phat ride, sitting on rims, and does not have a regular job, he's up to something. Therefore you might want to step up and try to do something, before someone else does something for you...

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 2:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

About the above post, I know that there are probably grammatical errors, and I really don't care. Its too late at night to be grammatially correct.

Posted by XXBeautifulDisasterXX (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 7:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 18, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The poor grandfather was probably raising this brat because his momma's on crack and there is no baby's daddy.
He killed this man because he didn't want to come inside the house...good grief!

so if this just so happens to be true...then there is no tellin what was goin on in this boys head. i wonder if there is a journal or something that tells how he was feeling on the inside. i'm not defending him in any way. i think he deserves what is coming to him. from what i keep reading this "grandfather" was a great guy! & there should be more ppl like him in the world! =]

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bravo - Drawspaintings

Posted by vidalia1 (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If we had been cursing n the yard we would have gotten our butts beaten if he was so bad, why didnt he attack the person that he was cursing???????No he took the life of a man that was providing him a better life! This man was simply talking to him.Not abusing him as many here have indicated.Maybe grandpa should have grabbed a belt. I most recently turned down a chance to have a grand child come to live with me.Sorry. Love them to death but I am not the one.My sympathy to all family and friends of this man.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on August 18, 2008

"I know this is politically incorrect to say, but -- is this a black thing? all these stabbing are by black on black people?? I pray that the black community will try to activate a moral upheaval and stop these crimes somehow."

Krogers, there are two ways to take your comment, and I must agree with you. Our young community as a whole has lost it's morality. Our young women are taught that their bodies define them and their worth. Our young men don't respect themselves enough to pull their pants up and act like men. Some of our priorities are out of line. There are good Black people, and there are good young Black people. The good of us take the time out to teach out children the values and standards in life. We teach our daughters how to dress and carry themselves as women. I'm talking about the ones who don't know morales. But what are we to do when things have gotten so bad, to where we are afraid to approach some of these young people. You can't pull everybody to the side and talk to them now. I would usually get offended on comments like that, but it's the truth. I love my Black men, but some of them don't understand why some of our women won't give them an opportunity to date them. Our community has lost the unity, respect, and love for one another. We need to stop blaming other folks, and get our morality and dignity back. I can go on and on about this, but i just wanted you to know that somebody will take this wrong. I admit that I did, but the more I thought about it, I realized it is true. Like I said, it's two ways to take your comment. Some may disagree with me, but it's the truth. I know this, because I've been exposed and experience all of this.

I'm having a time with my 9 year old son, because some of his male classmates have cell phones, grilles, earrings, sagging pants. He actually think it's cool. I've been going through this with him for about two years now. Part of it was my fault, because I dated a guy would was caught up in all of that. My son was trying to be like Him. I left him and I'm wiser now. My son is extremely smart, almost to where he don't have to study much, but he would have been influenced by that, he would become an educated fool. It took me a while to realize that, and when I did, I left that guy. I tell my son he is very smart and intellegent, but who will know that when you look a certain way. He is very influential. I don't want him to grow up and disrespect women, have a bunch of babies scattered out everywhere. I want him to respect me when I get older, and respect is wife. Yes, I said wife. I also want him to fear and honor God. I have to stay on him. I've said enough. I got so much to say about this, and what I've said may not make sense. I hurt for our youth. It's time to stop playing.

Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 1:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Unfortunately, Incognito, you didn't understand my post, and if you would have read my post from yesterday, I am really sorry. I feel for this young man and his family. Maybe, it's best that I leave my two cents out from now on, because no one ever understands. I am black, and I am tired of what's going on in my community. Others may discuss there point of views interms to criticize the black community, but what is the point of trying to justify myself. Just let the teens live there lives the way they want. I was wrong.

To the family of the teenager, I was not talking about your loved one. I was only expressing how I felt about something that another blogger said. My condolenses are with you all, and to the family of the victim as well. I hate when situations like this happens, and no one else cares, but each other. I pray that God will mercy and grace on all of your hearts, just like I said yesterday. That's what I should have said in the first place.

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amazing the comments, not by any means suprised by the most of them. Many lives have been greatly impacted and the best that can be said and done consists of discussing the ills within the black community. No one has mentioned going to visit the family, well, I guess the would be to much like right.

Posted by BeautifullyDefined (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK FIRST OF ALL IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NTZ IS STILL RACIST. I AM A 24 YEAR OLD BLK AND EDUCATED WOMAN, OH I KNOW WHAT THIS CITY IS ABOUT. SAD TO STAY I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE ALL MY LIFE AND I KNOW WHAT A RACIST IS. SEEMS TO ME THAT "YOU PEOPLE" WANT TO GET ON LINE AND TALK ABOUT BLKS LISTENING TO RAP AND SAGGN PANTS. HAY GO TO THE TRAILOR PARKS AND YOU WILL EXPERIENCE THE SAMETHING FROM THE WHITE COMMUNITY. WHITE BOYS WANTING TO BE BLK AND WHITE GIRLS WANTING BLK GUYS. CRYSTAL METH COMPARED TO SMOKING WEED?????? SO DONT COME AT ME WITH THIS RACIST MESS UNTIL YOU LOOK AT ALL SIDES.

YES I'M GONNA POST THIS IN EVERY SECTION I READ!!!!

Posted by lowrider (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

**BeautifulIdiot - post as many times as you will, that way everyone can see how much of an idiot you are. For one not everyone is racist in the way you think. Yes it does exist to a point. I am a Racist, not against skin color but about these wanna be thugs, and other people who choose not to do for themselves. I never once have held anyone back, heck I would like to think that I might have been a postive influence to some. Not saying I'm great or flawless by no means, but I have taking the negative things that I have done in my life and passed them on to others that were not so fortunate, in order to aid them down the not so straight and naarrow path. What have you done, besides started screaming I've been oppressed, white folks are all racist. Get over it, only the strong survive, so get up and do something.

Posted by cooper3k1 (anonymous) on August 19, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think every teenager(and adult) needs to read the book called "A Child Called It" It is a true story about how a boy overcame child abuse and neglect from his mother. She made him sleep in the garage on a army cot and called him "it" as if he were not a person. I cried at the things this woman did to this child. This child is grown now and has done remarkable things. I recommend it for everyone to read.

Posted by Incognito (anonymous) on August 20, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

drawpaintsing, I mentioned most of the comments in which I wasn't surprised.

Posted by BeautifullyDefined (anonymous) on August 20, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lowrider, lol did I strike a nerve!!!!!! I just love it keep up the name calling!!!!

Posted by cooper3k1 (anonymous) on August 20, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

drawspaintsing, your prior post was wonderfully said.

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