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Obama, VP choice to campaign together Saturday

Published Wednesday, August 20, 2008

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Barack Obama and his newly named running mate will campaign together Saturday at the place where the Democratic presidential hopeful formally launched his White House bid.

A senior Obama adviser told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity Tuesday that the Illinois senator and his choice for vice president will appear in Springfield, Ill., at the former state Capitol where Abraham Lincoln once served.

The last time Obama appeared there he announced he was running for president.

Obama strategist Anita Dunn sidestepped the question of whether the event would be Obama’s first appearance with his vice presidential pick, but suggested the two wouldn’t necessarily be related. The campaign’s announcement Tuesday said only that Obama would begin the trip to his party’s national convention at Saturday’s event. The Democratic convention begins Monday in Denver.

‘‘We could pick up the VP. any time,’’ Dunn said.

The campaign has said it will announce the choice via cell phone text message to supporters.

The list of possibilities, meanwhile, is believed to be down to Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, who planned to campaign in his home state Thursday with Obama.

At a town-hall meeting Tuesday night in Raleigh, N.C., Obama repeatedly said ‘‘he’’ when discussing the qualities he sought in a potential running mate, even as campaign officials cautioned reporters not to read too much into his choice of pronouns.

‘‘Let me tell you first what I won’t do: I won’t hand over my energy policy to my vice president and not know necessarily what he’s doing,’’ Obama told the audience. ‘‘My vice president ... will be a member of the executive branch. He won’t be one of these fourth branches of government where he thinks he’s above the law,’’ he said, an apparent reference to Vice President Dick Cheney’s handling of the office.

Those thought to be on Obama’s short list stayed mum.

Biden coyly told reporters staking out his Delaware home, ‘‘I’m not the guy.’’ Sebelius, in an interview with the AP before stumping for Obama in Michigan, professed no inside knowledge of when word would come.

‘‘A week from tomorrow we will all know,’’ she said, referring to the running-mate acceptance speech set for next Wednesday at the convention.

Only Obama, his wife, Michelle, a handful of his most senior advisers and his two-member search committee know for certain who has made the cut.

The running mate decision also looms large for McCain, too.

In hopes of grabbing the post-convention spotlight from Obama, McCain is considering announcing his choice in the few days between the end of the Democratic convention in Denver and the start of the Republican gathering in St. Paul, Minn.

McCain’s top contenders are said to include Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Other possible choices are former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, an abortion-rights supporter, and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential pick in 2000 who now is an independent.

Underscoring how seriously McCain may be considering Ridge or Lieberman, Republican officials say top McCain advisers have been reaching out to big donors and high-profile delegates in key states to gauge the impact of putting an abortion-rights supporter on the GOP ticket.

But conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh warned that the GOP base ‘‘will totally turn on McCain’’ if he picks an abortion-rights running mate and predicted such a move ‘‘will ensure his defeat.’’

Comments

Posted by reb1843 (anonymous) on August 21, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Messiah O'bama could select Howdy Doody as his Veep and the sheeple will still vote for him. As we say here in Texas, he's "all hat, and no cattle." Without a teleprompter, he doesn't have a clue about anything. Which tells me a lot about the people who would even consider voting for him. Sure, he's an eloquent, preacher-man speaker that can stir up the crowds, but so have been a number of other leaders [sic] of the past, namely Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, ad nauseum.

Posted by kpage (anonymous) on August 21, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Blah, blah, blah, bibbety, bobbety, boo. Snickerdoodle. Sassafrass. Supercalifragilisticexpealidocious.....see how ridiculous these words are? Just like the rhetoric spewed by Osama bin....I mean Obama sin Ladin...I mean....what's that guy's name? Obama. The Muslim dude.

Posted by Kaintuck (anonymous) on August 21, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, what we need is another man like George Bush. He knew what to do after September 11th. Within 24 hours of that barbarous atrocity, he had ALL of Osama bin Laden's huge family here in the United States rounded up - and quietly flown back to Saudi Arabia. No need to waterboard them, what could they possibly know about Osama bin Laden? And he didn't let Saudi Arabia off the hook either, even though nearly all of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis; no sir - we attacked Iraq. "W" created Homeland Security to oversee our borders, and deliver help at a time of crisis. What's that? After spending hundreds of billions on security since September 11th, we now have an additional 18 million illegal aliens residing here? But wait; at least the Federal Emergency Management Agency performed well. What's that? What do you mean the Royal Canadian Mounted Police arrived on the Gulf Coast days before FEMA showed-up. After 9/11, "W' appointed the former head of the Arabian Horse Association to oversee FEMA. Now that's smart thinking pardner... Who cares if the USA has run up more National Debt under George Bush than all of the preceding 42 U.S. Presidents combined? Yes, we need another man cut from the same piece of cloth as George W. Bush to lead this nation. Who could argue with that? Incredibly, I used to be a diehard Republican; but King George cured this good ol' boy...

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Johnny Reb has a bigger bone to pick with Obama, methinks.

http://www.natchezdemocrat.com/users/reb...

Posted by Reb1843 on February 19 at 2:39 p.m.

1. No - white people and black people are NOT equal, except in protection under the law.
2. No - white people and black people will NOT get along, because of their inherent anthropological differences.
3. No - black people have proven over the milennia that, left to themselves, they are incapable of 'greatness.'

+++
PS: Did you just learn that "all hat, no cattle" phrase? That's very clever!

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsB...

This is the guy I would vote for!

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why thank you, Happybunny. I love that in the modern era, kooks like this are no longer relegated to passing around their crappy little pamphlets at fairs and on the streets in tinfoil hats. Now they get to dress up in funny outfits and go on YouTube.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He may be a little kooky but he makes a lot of sense. He is not party specific, he simply makes excellent points about what is wrong with our government. He even agree's with Obama on a few points.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sorry for these white people who write in hating Barack so fervently. I know it's got to be hard having all the advantages, faith and good parents then see some half-white black dude make so much of himself.

Did you ever think that folks who never made much of themselves at all in business, or education or government should be the last people that we should listen to on who would make a good leader?

Posted by bombingeight (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sentas - regarding reb1843, well done!

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It has nothing to do with him being black, but that was very very racist for you to make that statement. It has everything to do with his lack of knowledge, his ridiculous plans.
It is also very racist to assume that every white person had "all the advantages".
I would vote for this man over Obama also...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RyOPTtzTvI

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Happybunny, I would love to see the bookmarks in your browser. Thank you again for sharing. It must be fun in there.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad to oblige!

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well happpybunny, I'm sorry I made a racist comment. I just wrote something to pull your chain. I'm white as snow.

I have listened to southern white people whine like babies ever since I was born, acting like the 15% of black folks out there threaten their very existence. Now, with BOrock so electable and the other side having embarrassed themselves with bad character, maybe they are worried but they will call it socialism instead of race.

Why, I wonder with this big fine world do white people whine so much and roll their eyes about race relates issues, like welfare and political correctness? Most people aren't really prejudiced, they are just lazy thinkers and they didn't care to deal with black problems then or now.

During most of my life black folks worked twice as hard for half as much, but if you listen to white folks a few tax dollars to try to blow some smoke in the black sails is a crushing killing burden. I just don't buy it. My tax burden though aggravating is a deal compared to what the rest of the world has to pay.

And anyone with a brain will have to admit that the last 50 years has made leaps and bounds of progress compared to the previous 150 that were run on what sells today as Republican free market ideology.

I have come to the conclusions -- even with today's undeniable progress -- that blacks as a culture, bear their burdens far more gracefully than rednecks. Just my opinion. But I was raised with the rednecks and know their hidden flaws. I know how easy they hate and with little reason. Maybe I AM prejudiced, but it looks like for centuries at least blacks had a historical reason for their angst.

And that renegade black shock jockey you Youtubed is just another of the FOX mentality, selling himself and his solutions by being shockingly anti - PC. He's no magician, but he has a place and he is making a living the easy way -- by saying things too crass and obvious for most people to say out loud. It only has a limited appeal.

We all have to work and think and be self-reliant to get better. B+W rich and poor. We all live by conservative principles or we flame out, and political conservatives don't own those methods of living -- but they will claim them if you're weak minded enough to let them.

Democrats don't try to get people to stay on welfare -- Clinton did more than any president in recent history to make folks work. And if the Republicans had the spine to eliminate it they just blew their chance.

YES WE CAN! Borock is a step up. Let's vote for a change. If we can survive 8 years of a Bush with guns and our checkbook we can survive Obama. McCain is not respected enough by his party to even be obeyed, and his party is the biggest threat to freedom in the modern era.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I make up MY OWN MIND concerning the person I choose to vote for, and guess what...IT AIN'T OBAMA! I don't vote ONLY BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF A CANDIDATES SKIN. Anyone that does is no more than "sheeple" I believe the term above was used.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, you wouldn't by any chance have moved here to Natchez from N.O. would you? And aren't you the one that calls herself a "Psychologist" and rallies for the black race?

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just asking...

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guess again noneya. I defy all stereotypes. I'm not a woman, and nothing more than an amateur psychologist.

I don't quite rally for the black race as a hobby, either, although I have lived in a few places that gave me special insight.

The reason I feel the way I do about black folks and rednecks, about the Republican Party and the Democrats, is that I have known and loved members of all those groups enough for them to tell me their secrets. I love to talk with judges, senators, prosecutors, preachers, priests and peons and ask them prying questions about what they really think.

And from that I'll say that I have come to accept political conservatives as the most hypocritical of frauds, rednecks as lovable but unsophisticated brutes, blacks as bearers of a heroic history with profound up sides and down sides, and Democrats as a party that is well-meaning but not nearly smart enough to consistently win against the other side's ability to lie. And any of these groups would go too far if left to their own devices.

But I will say that no matter the outcome of this election the left has won by degree, and for sure there will be no mandate from the public.

Just a few months ago Republicans were loathe to elect John McCain. They still don't love him but they will act like they do rather than lose power. He is the most liberal of Republican candidates and has a history of privilege and ineptness and in choosing him they have come toward the middle far faster than their instinct or wish. He is weak, but realizing a personal dream and by proxy his party is weak and may be facing a nightmare.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

While Manning may be an extremist, I like the way he thinks. The black people have a lot more advantages now than the white race, many just chose not to take advantage of their opportunities. I was raised in the North until I was 11, then in Vidalia. The culture was shocking to me but I became accustomed to it. I am not predjudiced by any means I just call it like I see it.
There is no white college fund, no white colleges, no white chambers of commerce, no white affirmative action.
The fact is, there are many black people that are incredibly ambitiuos and make something of themselves, they work hard and make a good life for themselves. They are educated and good citizens. Then you have the other side of the table, they stay in the slums, get involved with drugs, drop out of school, have babies and we pay for all this with our taxes. (I understand that there are white people that also live that way) These uneducated people will vote for Obama simply because he is perceived to be black. They don't understand the issues, it's becasue he is black.
I don't think McCain is the best Republican candidate for the job because he is so liberal, but he the only option that doesn't scare me to death.

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It always comes down to this one, doesn't it Yeahuhuh? "Black people have more advantages than white people," blah blah blah, "I am so oppressed as a white person," blah blah blah. Blech. It's ridiculous. Actually, I wish you were a psychologist, so you could diagnose this uniquely Southern reaction to the state of things. It is completely lacking in reason, and yet it persists.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please explain what would happen if somebody started a white college fund...there would be outrage in the black community. If everyone truly wants equality, then everyone should have the same opportunities without being called a racist. Now that experiment would be an interesting study in human behavior. I find your failure to see the obvious completely fascinating.
I never said I was oppressed, nor am I a true Southerner, I have spent half of my life in the North.

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A year spent in Vidalia qualifies as a lifetime of being Southern.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Still, you failed to answer my question. What would happen in such an instance?

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Black people have more advantages than white people,"

If you want a government job, or a government grant, I think that there may be a tiny case that the black applicant may have a tiny advantage in a few places and with some types of grant. But on the way to driving to that place a white applicant would see better treatment in a thousand places, and I feel that is true north and south. In millions of small majority race businesses the chances are a cousin, a friend or a son will get the jobs or the good jobs, and this situation is what spawned affirmative action.

In all the states I lived in you could get admitted to a college if you had a high school diploma and you could get help with the costs. The only schools I ever saw that excluded any race were white schools before 1964. If some private benefactors create all-blacks schools then so what? State sponsored black schools have historically been created just to keep the other schools whiter, and that's the truth.

It is not the place of government to mirror society's standards -- government can correct them and still be legitimate. Plenty of time people ask government to do things the private sector cannot pull off.

And it is not the place of an affirmative action program that seeks to change a social outcome to perpetuate it in the name of colorblindness. That would be senseless -- flawed logic.

For white people to consume the advantages their majority status gives them, then to demand that government payola works for them by the same proportion, too, seems crazy to me, and a bit whiney.

In fact, why depend so much on government jobs???? They always held me back and invaded my freedom. The striving for government jobs you see in our culture from CCA to law enforcement to sanitation to military to all of it is a tiny faction of what enterprise offers. The health and retirement benefits are nice but not worth the confinement -- a job you pick will not only pay your way but will cap your ambitions. IMHO

If you're black you do stand to be stopped by police more often, hounded by store security more often, sent to prison more often and you will make up more of the military than your percentage of the population.

Go figure. It's easier and cheaper to give a poor or undereducated person a job and some training than it is to put him up out at the CCA facility or imprison them so they can pick up trash on a road gang. Unless someone with more options demands the job or training for themselves on grounds of race alone.

We're not colorblind and we never were.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Would someone PLEASE sugar-coat "I have never been proud of my country until now" so I might better be able to digest that a little better? I mean, after all, everything else has been sugar-coated and explained away (at least in the Obama ring). He still stinks. McCain NOR the Republican Party at this time would be my initial choice, but AT THIS TIME, he is the lesser of the two evils.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The issue of racism would have diminished long ago if the black people would let it go. We now have reverse racism. Do you see white people marching around demanding special rights? Does Al Sharpton come a running when a white man is beat by a black cop? Do white people burn down their community when they feel a social disjustice has occured? Nope. I know there are many people in the South that will always be racists simply becasue of their redneck heritage but this is a problem nationwide.

Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess sentas chose to let the white guy argue for his race.

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The issue of racism would have diminished long ago if, say, they had been allowed to vote and share the same water fountains before the 1960s. Which wasn't so long ago.

Not sure what "chose to let the white guy argue for his race" means. But I'm quite sure it's ridiculous.

For a "highly educated bank executive," you sure do have a lot of time on your hands.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If the lady had not been proud like she was at that moment then go figure.

Pride is the first of the seven deadly sins, but I know a lot of people think that doesn't matter for countries. I never could understand why someone would want to require folks to commit a sin in the name of their country. But I'm not a Catholic and that's their rule.

Yes I do see white people going around demanding the rights they get socially as a majority and the rights to equality from the government even from programs designed to even out the differences.

White people don't burn down their neighborhood when an injustice is committed by a public agency. Usually they are well represented by the agency and the injustice is not to their race.

They do put as many people as possible in jail when there is an injustice according to the congress. They say the primary testimony in Congress that was used to make marijuana illegal was the certainty that if it were allowed there would be black men raping white women all over the country. That's history. Look what that has led to in incarcerations.

Al Sharpton is just one of the folks that stands up for blacks. You might not likehimbut nothing requires he stand up for anyone except his constituents. You got a problem with that?

You have a little reverse racism in a few places and all the places I have mentioned that is still is real racism. Both are happening at one time.

Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is something you should be
>> aware of so you don't get blind-sided.
>> This is really going to catch a lot
>> of families off guard. It should
>> make you worry.
>>
>> Proposed changes in taxes after 2008 General >> election:
>>
>>
>> CAPITAL GAINS TAX
>>
>> MCCAIN
>> 0% on home sales up to $500,000
>> per home (couples) McCain does not
>> propose any change in existing
>> home sales income tax.
>>
>> OBAMA
>> 28% on profit from ALL home sales
>>
>> How does this affect you?
>> If you sell your home and make a profit, you
>> will pay 28% of your gain on taxes.
>> If you are heading toward retirement
>> and would like to down-size your
>> home or move into a retirement
>> community, 28% of the money you
>> make from your home will go to taxes. This
>> proposal will adversely affect the
>> elderly who are counting on the income
>> from their homes as part of their retirement income

Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DIVIDEND TAX
>>
>> MCCAIN 15% (no change)
>>
>> OBAMA 39.6%
>>
>> How will this affect you?
>> If you have any money invested in stock
>> market, IRA, mutual funds,
>> college funds, life insurance, retirement
>> accounts, or anything that pays
>> or reinvests dividends, you will now
>> be paying nearly 4 0% of the money
>> earned on taxes if Obama become president.
>> The experts predict that 'higher
>> tax rates on dividends and capital gains
>> would crash the stock market yet
>> do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
>>
>> INCOME TAX
>>
>> MCCAIN (no changes)
>>
>> Single making 30K - tax $4,500
>> Single making 50K - tax $12,500
>> Single making 75K - tax $18,750
>> Married making 60K- tax $9,000
>> Married making 75K - tax $18,750
>> Married making 125K - tax $31,250
>>
>> OBAMA
>> (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
>> Single making 30K - tax $8,400
>> Single making 50K - tax $14,000
>> Single making 75K - tax $23,250
>> Married making 60K - tax $16,800
>> Married making 75K - tax $21,000
>> Married making 125K - tax $38,750
>>
>>

Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Under Obama your taxes will

>> more than double!
>> How does this affect you? No explanation
>> needed. This is pretty
>> straight forward.
>>
>> INHERITANCE TAX</ SPAN>
>>
>> MCCAIN 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
>>
>> OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax
>>
>> How does this affect you? Many families
>> have lost businesses,
>> farms and ranches, and homes
>> that have
>> been in their families
>> for generations because they could not
>> afford the inheritance tax.
>> Those willing their assets to loved
>> ones will not only lose them to< BR>these taxes.
>>
>> NEW TAXES BEING PROPOSED BY OBAMA
>>
>> * New government taxes proposed on
>> homes that are more than
>> 2400 square feet
>>
>> * New gasoline taxes (as if
>> gas weren't high enough already)
>>
>> * New taxes on natural resources
>> consumption (heating
>> gas, water, electricity)
>>
>> * New taxes on retirement accounts
>> and last but not least....
>>
>> * New taxes to pay for socialized medicine
>> so we can receive the same
>> level of medical care as other
>> third-world countries!!!

Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

www.phforamerica.com

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Try again, yeahuhuh...that statement still isn't palatable to me. Sin or no sin, I, along with the majority of Americans, am still proud of my country and would take her over any other in the world. Even with all her problems, America is still the greatest country in the world, although I sincerely feel it will make a fast spiral downward should Obama take office. Believe it or not, I would rather have seen Hillary in there than Obama. (did I really just say that?)Where did Obama come from to begin with....the woodworks? Who is ACTUALLY behind this brainstorm of his to run for president in the first place? He was just a local yokel that seldom showed up to even vote in Congress and now his face is plastered all over the place! WHO HAS BEEN POLISHING HIM UP IN PREPARATION FOR THIS??? No, yeahuhuh, you certainly can't surgar coat that turd up enough for me to ingest.

Posted by noneya (anonymous) on August 22, 2008 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and Sentas, you hate is shining through again. How do you really expect the black people of this country to ever be on equal footing with the white people when the personalities of your type taint the very ideals you wish so badly for your people? How can you expect white people to put aside their predjudice when you can't even do it? Do I sense a great deal of hyprocity here?

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 25, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Noneyah your pride in America is just fine, but your message is kinda nuts. Maybe you're just bad at writing, I don't know.

You obviously are just bristling with some kind of loathing, like what, just because you haven't read Obamas writing or heard him he didn't exist? Like if something isn't familiar enough to you it is illegitimate? Therefore you are offended? Like you want some change in Washington but you want someone who caused the old problems to lead you because you need a familiar face?

And who is Sentas "your people" that you refer to. I don't know what race Sentas is, do you? Happy bunny made the same assumption.

And noneya, you mean that after 200 years of white people being racist and victimizing them, that black folks should not be racist BEFORE you think white folks should be expected to NOT be racist?

I'll tell you how it works. The oppressing majority stops being racist and stops oppressing. 30 to 100 years pass rehabilitating the discriminated minority during which time the blacks realign to face equality by feeling the difference and seeing it. They get training of the sorts that confident optimistic parents give them over generations. THEN nobody is racist any more except for the stupid, the selfish and the folks that expect the other guy to bend more.

I have been around stupid rednecks all my life that figured that 10 years after 1964 the blacks should have forgotten the previous 200 years. It just ain't going to happen that way.

Some respond quickly, some respond slowly, some get left behind for a while and then after three generations or four there is profound difference. In the meantime the racists rail on them claiming they are already equal, already rehabilitated, yet the numbers for income and incarceration show the undeniable truth.

Posted by Yeahuhuh (anonymous) on August 25, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's sum up the election this way maybe there is a common ground.

Republicans have been betrayed by GW Bush. He ran us into unbelievable debt trying to make his Reganomics thing work and it was a dismal failure we are paying interest on now. He did unbelievable giveaways to industry, oil and we are all really well screwed now. Jobs fled the country as businesses took their tax cuts and invested them in China instead of US jobs.

Nearly all of the congressmen who were supposed to keep him honest fell in line behind him and just fought for him and his big spending.

Most of the supporters who never do know what Bubya is up to ever acted like they were offended, and evidently if they did call their congressman then they weren't listened to.

So the entire other 50% of us that didn't want Bush have been totally betrayed by the entire GOP. And most of that 50% of Republicans who were offended by Bush and now disapprove of him were betrayed by the party, their congressmen, and the administration.

So now a weak Republican that held even less power than Bush wants the helm, and we are supposed to elect him???? A man disrespected by his party? A man who openly says he will continue Bush's giveaways that have bankrupted us? A man who is as old school Washington as it gets?

I'm sorry. I have some guts. Obama is not any more a socialist, a muslim or a terrorist than Bush. If I were to elect the same old same old it would be out of fear and confusion.

I got cahones. Black or white I will not send the same crew back up there with even less supervision than the last 8 years. Get another bunch of crooks in there to find out what damage has been done.

Posted by sentas (anonymous) on August 26, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's a good point. McCain would be worse than Bush - because he'll be inheriting such an awful legacy, guided by people who thought Bush was a lightweight. This would be an even darker period in our history.

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