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Reputed Klansman's cold-case conviction overturned
Published Wednesday, September 10, 2008
NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A federal appeals court on Tuesday overturned the conviction of a reputed Ku Klux Klan member serving three life sentences for his role in the 1964 abduction and killing of two black teenagers.
A three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said it agreed with arguments by James Ford Seale's attorney that the statute of limitations in the case had expired.
Seale was convicted in June 2007 of kidnapping and conspiracy in the abductions of Charles Eddie Moore and Henry Hezekiah Dee, both 19, who disappeared from Franklin County in Mississippi May 2, 1964. Their decomposed bodies were later pulled from the muddy waters of the Mississippi River.
The 20-page ruling noted the alleged crimes occurred in 1964 and the indictment against Seale was issued in 2007.
"The more than 40-year delay clearly exceeded the limitations period," said Judge Harold R. DeMoss Jr., writing for the panel of judges that included W. Eugene Davis and Jerry E. Smith.
"The district court erred by failing to recognize the presumption that changes affecting statutes of limitation apply retroactively, even without explicit direction from Congress."
Defense attorney Kathy Nester had argued that a 1972 congressional act that abolished the death penalty for kidnapping, also imposed a five-year statute of limitations.
Defense attorneys "identified this statute of limitations problem as a legitimate issue early on in the case," she said in a telephone interview Tuesday.
Nester said prosecutors could ask the full appeals court to hear the case.
The decision was being reviewed by the U.S. Department of Justice's Civil Rights Division in Washington, D.C., said spokesman Dean Boyd.
Nester said she had not spoken with Seale and did not know when she would be able to.
Seale was convicted largely on the testimony of Charles Marcus Edwards, a confessed Klansman who, for his testimony, received immunity from prosecution for his admitted role in the abductions.
Edwards testified that he didn't participate in the killings, but Seale told him how Seale and other Klansmen bound Dee and Moore with tape, put them into a car trunk and drove them through part of eastern Louisiana to get to the area where the young men were dumped, still alive, into the river.
Seale was arrested on a state murder charge in 1964, but it was later dropped. Federal prosecutors say the state case was dropped because local law enforcement officers in 1964 were in collusion with the Klan.
Seale is serving his sentences at a federal prison in Terre Haute, Ind., according to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons. Seale was sent there so his health needs could be met, officials have said. He has cancer, bone spurs and other health problems.
Charles Moore's brother said that despite Tuesday's ruling, he still felt the truth about his brother's death had been uncovered.
"This (ruling) doesn't take one ounce away from me," said Thomas Moore, of Colorado Springs, Colo. "James Ford Seale has spent more than a year in jail. I know I have disrupted his life."
Seale's case was among many unsolved civil-rights-era crimes that state and federal prosecutors across the South have revived since the early 1990s.
Comments
Posted by itsmemame (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 5:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is a surprise, I thought the statute of limitations did not apply to murder charges.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He didn't murder anyone..He kidnapped them...
Posted by padlock (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
KLANSMEN
MURDERS
RACIST
No matter how old this case is he should be behind bars. I am sure he doesn't have long to live anyway, so just as he killed those kids he should spend the rest of his life in prison or better yet give him the death penalty!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder what made the Klans feel as though they were the rulers of the land, going around be ignorantly racist, burning crosses, killing and beating blacks.
This day and age, I assure you they won't try it now.
Posted by draworks1 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Seems to me that Charles Eddie Moore and Henry Hezekiah Dee drown while being held against their will. Thats murder.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ITSME,
He was not convicted of murder, he was convicted of kidnapping. There is a statute of limitations on kidnapping. I do not completely agree with this decision, but I have to put my trust in the legal system that we have in place.
Padlock,
You are right about one thing, the klan would not try that today. The klan did not kill as many young black males in their whole history as have young black males killed each other in the last 15 years. Black on black crime in America kills more kids in one year than the klan would have ever dreamed about. All the klan would have to do today is turn on the evening news and watch and react...
Just something for you to think about for a while today.
Posted by kpage (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You've done more than disrupt his life for a year, Mr. Charles Moore! You've helped in exposing the true Mr. Seale to the entire world! Now we know the truth about your brother and Henry Dee. Even if they let him out, Seale remains partly responsible for the deaths of these two boys over 40 years ago.
Always a loophole. Damn!
Posted by mowen (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
He dumped them,bond, into a river alive, there isn't that many outcomes for that scenario. The article says he was convicted of bduction and killing.
Posted by BeautifullyDefined (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
NO COMMENT!!
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Edwards testified that he(Seale) didn't participate in the killings, but Seale told him how Seale and other Klansmen bound Dee and Moore with tape, put them into a car trunk and drove them through part of eastern Louisiana to get to the area where the young men were dumped, still alive, into the river.
He did not actually commit the murders. He was convicted of kidnapping and conspiracy, not murder. That is teh whole reason he is going to get out.
Everybody remember that he will be judged, not on earth, but he will not get a commuted sentenced or statute of limitations when he gets judged in the afterlife. I know we all want justice here on earth, but some crimes are better left to be judged in heaven......and I guess this will have to be one of them. His health will kill him before he goes back to trial.
Posted by aak1972 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If the boys were white you wouldnt even know who Seale is!!
Posted by vidalia1 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Padlock and others, well stared all youth should exposed to this part of history and I also thought there was no statue of limitation on murder.
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The charges were CONSPIRACY to murder and kidnapping. Either way, you mean to tell me, the prosecution had NO idea of this "statute of limitations." These kangaroo proceedings have done NOTHING but caused the family of thie undeserving victims MORE pain. But God knows. I don't care what man's law says, God KNOWS ALL, trust me on that. And though you may get away with man, there is NO getting away with God! Mark my words.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Red, you are correct. Also think of the genocide going on in Africa everyday! Africans murdering whole villages, children and all, simply for being in a different tribe. Talk about hatred, look there.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Vidalia 1,
The charge was not murder that he was convicted of. The person that could have been tried for murder turned state's witness and got immunity. That is a big problem in our system.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Freedom,
I completely agree with you on that. Genocide is awful hienous crime. It has happened in our time way too many times. Look at the former Yugoslavia state and what happened there. All over Africa and in eastern countries as well. China has some of this going on now, but we will never know the extent of it. Our granddkids will look back at our history and wonder why we did nothing to slow or stop all of the crime we see daily. The greatest generation in our country is dying off and their spirit or "righting-wrongs" seems to be dying with them.
So Sad...
Posted by Krogers (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I cannot understand this
he kidnapped them, threw them bound into the river and they drowned, that is murder
No statute of limitations on murder
Seale should be on death row, or at least more time for kidnapping
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Krogers, I agree. The article is on Seale and his hand in the murders etc., not the genocides in Africa. I guess the genocides of the Balkan countries were just as digusting. Genocide on ANY level is, however, THIS article is on James Seale.
Posted by SIOUXLADY (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
HE WILL GET A CHANCE TO REAP THE SEEDS THAT HE HAS SOWN.
GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Teach and Krogers,
I agree with you that this guy got away with a slap on the wrist for a crime that he was a party to.
BUT, he was not charged with murder, only conspiracy and kidnapping. THOSE laws have a statute of limitations and that is why he is going to come back to Roxie in the next few weeks.
BUT, it is not over, HE WILL BE JUDGED!
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
EVERYBODY,
HE WAS CONVICTED OF KIDNAPPING AND CONSPIRACY.
NOT MURDER. That is what the whole story is about, and he is not getting away with it. He will have to pay for it sooner or later. He will wish that he had paid for it here on earth when he meets THE LORD that I serve. He will wish that he had spent 50 years in year instead of eternity in HELL!
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
50 years in jail....sorry.
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RED, we have said this already. We KNOW what the charges are/were.
Posted by cchat123 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
My mother, grandmother,grandfather, uncles, aunts, and other relatives was born, lived or still lives in Franklin County. It's not a farfetch notion for families to later in life ----people in small towns were related to each other somehwere down the family tree.
To this end, death occurred in 50s and 60s in all parts of Mississippi at the hands of racism and bulldogs Klansman.
I vaguely remember a conversation among adults in my mother's kitchen during the height of the civil rights era and the daily marching in Natchez that someone had gone missing in Franklin county.
I am not sure, but I believed they (adults) were speaking of their brother(my uncle) or a cousin or even a family friend. I do remember some specific words from that conversation in my mother's kitchen. Those words were bridge, water, Klansmans, car, a truck and logs.
To this day, that conversation riddles me!
So you see....there is possibility that people are dead in rural Mississippi and noone cares.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This guy is like 100, what does it matter he is released from jail? One less person to fill the jail cell, of course, I am sure it will be filled instantaneously. He was judged, by the judge.
Posted by Gimmeabreak (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is absolutely disgusting. It makes our state legal system look like a joke, oh wait-it is! I dont know how anyone could defend this man being released.
Posted by livelaughlove (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I know James Seales personally. God has reached him, and he has repented. Therefore, he will rise to Heaven.
Posted by Gimmeabreak (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
One more thing, I whole-heartedly agree that if the boys had been white, we would have never heard of this man. I am at a loss with this one.
Posted by Gimmeabreak (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Are you justifying the Klan's actions by comparing them with black on black crime? Its murder in both cases and they are both wrong.
Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It wouldn't matter to me if he were a Klansman or a member of the NAACP . Murderers should get the death penality .
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It was 40 years ago, what proof is left? All that matter is "Is this man dangerous to today's society?" IF he did do it, I am sure he has had to pay for it in some way.
As for the victims, could have just been their time to go, everybody has to die. That is no secret, or at least shouldn't be.
Our state legal system already looks like a joke, especially if BB gets in there (no experience and a rich relative).
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If James Seales was truly repentant, he would tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and would not be afraid of the consequences. Repenting does not excuse a Christian from having to abide by the laws of the land, it just gives them the strength to endure and the mind to set themselves straight in time to stand before God's judgement. Wash yourself with the truth James Seales. Do not be afraid of admitting the truth. You're old, get yourself cleaned-up. God already knows, but he wants you to set yourself free from your burdens prior to the day that will be your last on earth.
Posted by Gimmeabreak (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What a thing to say, "it was their time to go." So anyone can just decide when its someone else's time to go? Are you gonna let someone else decide when its your time to go? I sure hope not. Sounds like your justifying murder, I dont agree with you on that one, buddy. I dont think that James Seale and the word Christian belong in the same paragraph, just my opinion.
Posted by tolduso (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
James Seale will pay for his sin. And all those like him must answer to a higher judge.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, in your opinion, does molestation and the word Christianity go in the same sentence? It has before in the real world. Ever think that maybe he did not do it? Maybe he was the easiest suspect who was still alive. I do not glorify murder at all. I am sure than none of the million of Americans who lost their life for our country glorified murder either. But it happens. The actions of these people that were murdered has spoken, just as war casualities. We live, we learn. Lives are lost, times goes by. By bringing up the past like in this case, does nothing but put stress on everyone involved. The lawyers who probably have trouble finding adaquate evidence, the families of the victims, who have all of this surface all over again, and of course the accused. Why not just let the 100 year old man out, and get on with current issues?
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
He did answer to a higher judge, her podium sits 25" higher than the floor he was standing on.
Hey livelaughlove, if you knew Seale personally, was he a good father? Did he teach his kids in a moral manner?
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Everyone in prison now, who has had a HAND in murdering someone in the past, (not actually murdering them) let me make that distinction, let's just let them free because after all, it's in the past. Time goes by.
Posted by sideline (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Get ready for a war of races. Adams and Franklin County especially. The courts screwed up big time.
Posted by buttercup26 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
((redusmfan)) AMEN!!! YOU MADE A WONDERFUL FACT IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT!!!!! :)
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
redusmfan:
I don't know what God you are serving but the God I serve is a forgiving God.A sin is a sin no matter if it's murder or cheating on a spouse in God eyes it's all the same. We cant say if this man will go to heaven or hell that's not for us to decide.The comment that Gimmeabreak made how can you say that Christian and that mans name should not be in the same paragraph? How do you know that man has not seeked God forgiveness? You can not judge someone for what they done 40 years ago people change. I think that some of you people need to know the facts in this case instead of going by what Edwards said because that man is just as guilty.When Edwards testified all he done was got the heat off his back.AlSO some of you need a history lesson on the KLAN they did not just kill blacks they also killed white people too,but that was never talked about wonder why that is? Answer? because they where white.It's about time for Mississippi to start dealing with the crime we have now and stopping adding fuel to an old fire that has been out for years.
Posted by Serenyd (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This shouldn't be about black or white. It's what one human did to another that is so reprehensible and cold-blooded ... and it should have been punished when it happened a long time ago.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
now i guess we will have a boycott
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
sideline,thought that was already going on,i hear you gimmeabreak, obamayamama i agree with you on, easiest suspect who was still alive.still waiting on justice for my brother.
Posted by southernwoman (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"black on black crime" justification stinks - please give it up.
Posted by andy (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
southernwoman seales is white how can you say black on black crime
Posted by dottie (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If you know Mr. Seale and his cohorts,
or followed his trial, you will remember
many of them were involved in the church. Their words, not mine.
My opinion?
None of these people were born with a conscious.
Posted by stormie527 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Correction...He's "72" not 100. Just thought you would like to know.
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
(TO Serenyd)
I agree no this should not be about black and white,but guess what when you bring up something a klan'man done 40 yrs ago it's going to be a black and white issue because that's how the media want to betray the situation.I would say if he had murdered those boys it would be cold blooded.James Seale was never convicted of murder.My opinion I don't think he killed those boys and there is no evidence saying he did.
Posted by realdeal1150 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have read all this and it amazes me that whenever something comes up between black and white someone has got to play the race card. That's why we can't get past the mentality of the past. If I remember right God doesn't talk anywhere about a white soul and a black soul, a yellow soul and a red soul. We are all human beings who were put here on this earth, each for a different reason. Sin is what corrupted us then and it's still at work today. It's not our job to say who is saved and who isn't because none of us know for sure what is in a man's heart. Only God knows and he isn't telling you, me, or anyone else. I don't always agree with what our judicial system does but it's the best we have and ultimately God will make the final decision. We need to let this rest for the families sake. I saw something about a race war and that really got to me. Isn't that the continuation of what most of us are trying to end? Let the legal system do it's job and God will take care of the rest. To the families of the two young men I believe God has both of them with him today and whoever did that to them will face his wrath one day if they aren't truly saved before they die. Just my opinion.
Posted by Barrister (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
@ freedom42 - While you look at what's going on in Africa, don't forget to look back over history and atrocious murders and genocide committed by white people. You racist creep.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hah! that's funny barrister. Why dont you look at the atrocious murders committed now, what race holds the highest number of murderers? I am not sure of the answer, but can google it.
I know freedom42, and he is not a racist, he was only talking about Africa and their people, said nothing about race, unlike you.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://blog.nola.com/times-picayune/2007...
Why Barrister Why?
Posted by southernwoman (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Andy, I was responding to some of the posts above about how more blacks kill blacks here and how blacks are killing blacks in Africa.
I believe some are saying this to try to justify (to say it's okay) that the klan killed black people and some saying the klan was okay because they also killed some white people.
My opinion is that nothing could be further from the truth.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sassy,
Yes, he may be christian now, that would mean that he would confess TOTALLY his sins and asked to be forgiven. If he did this, then he would have to pay the price here on earth for his crimes. That includes his involvement in a murder(conspiracy). He never admitted this, therefore, did true Repentance occur?
Barrister,
Genocide has no color boundaries. if you will read all the comments entirely, you will see that I pointed out black, white, and tan genocide in my comments. So I guess your racist remarks were aimed elsewhere and just missed there target?
Obama,
The amount of murder committed by race would only be counted if it was a crime, not wartime, then right?. If this is the number you are looking for, I guess the Middle East,i.e. sand and desert areas, would lead the list over the last 4,000 years or so. This would include those that killed JESUS too. So, it is not white or black, but tan.....what a picture.
Posted by happybunny (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by sideline (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Get ready for a war of races. Adams and Franklin County especially. The courts screwed up big time.
What year is this? I am not naive enough to think that racism does not still exist in the south, but you find it more so on the reverse (black versus whites or mexicans) throughout the country.
Was the KKK wrong? ABSOLUTELY but that was years ago. The fact is the court system released this man because they had to based on the laws of this country.
This is no reason to riot and I only hope that doesn't occur, does anyone remember Rodney King, or the fires in St. Petersburg FL, how ridiculous to burn down your own community.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Southern Woman,
All killings by the Klan were wrong. AND all murder since then and before then was wrong. All colors included. The only killings that are justified are self defense and military shootings during wartime. Otherwise, murder is murder....plain and sinful.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am hardly a racist or a creep. But you are certainly an idiot.
Genocide is committed in many countries, even today. Africa came to mind because the "adopted" child of a friend of mine was recently killed in an attack on her African village and we were talking about black on black killing more young people than the klan ever did. We are all still trying to deal with that. IF Seales is guilty of murder he should be on death row. You need to read all the comments before making yours.
Posted by theduke (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Murder is a sin no matter what the color is.
I can't understand black people they can kill one another & call one another the N word, but you let a white person do it & it's racist.
Posted by humbleone (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To obamayamama, how in the world could you have brought yourself to type that "it could have just been their time to go, everybody has to die." If you read your Bible, you would know that not everyone dies "when it's their time." (Walk in all the way that the LORD your God has commanded you, so that you may live and prosper and prolong your days in the land that you will possess. Deuteronomy 5:33) Prolong is the keyword here. So it is true that some people die early, either by someone else's hand or by some fault of their own." To me, it sounds like you are justifying something that you believe in. It's obvious that you are not of the African-American culture, the tone of your comments suggests otherwise. I don't care what color you are, murder is murder - and no one deserves to have their life taken away from them. Your comments are cruel and should be removed!
Posted by Teach4Peace (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Duke:
"I can't understand black people they can kill one another & call one another the N word, but you let a white person do it & it's racist."
Do white people want to use the "N" word as freely as some blacks do today? I mean, your comment sounds to me like if it is okay for blacks to use it, then why can't whites use it without being called racist? Where was the coin termed from in the first place? If this does not matter to you, why bother with what blacks call each other. What does that do to you personally? Not all do that and those who do are ignorant just like some whites who call each other names are ignorant.
Posted by commoncents (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
oh well. OJ; got off on technicalities.kkk.naacp,ms13,skin heads ,rude boyz,bloods,gutterpunks,crips,black panthers,ariyan brotherhood,hellsangels, and whoever and whatever supremicy groups,are still active can all answer for stupidity.Just like this man will,as well as I will.
Posted by obamayamama (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh dear humbleone,
I look at life AND DEATH in a more realistic POV (as I can see you do not after spitting out all those biblical WORDS). You preach what you believe in, and so do I. I believe that death comes just as life does. And if someone dies due from someone else's actions, accidents, old age, disease, or suicide, that is reality. I am in no way saying murder is right. But who is going to stop a murderer? It's not possible. Accepting it is the only thing we can do. Putting this old and fragile man back in jail is not going to solve anything. Go spit that religion giberish in someone else's direction. Come back to me when you have some proof of what you state. UUUHHH
redus, I was basically referring to the South having the most crime in the United States.
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To Redusmafan
Just so you know we do not have to admit our guilt or sins to anyone here on earth.As long as we admit our guilt and confess our sins before God you do not have to pay for your crime on earth. Don't get me wrong if you commit a crime I think they should be punished no matter if your black or white. And only GOD knows his true Repentance that's not for you or me to deceide.
Posted by southernbelle (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Face it ,our judicial system is not impartial . I have personnally known judges who are more inclined to judge before facts are known . I think more are that way than not . It matters if you are white or black in most cases here in our part of Mississippi. Sometimes its a power trip and sometimes its prejudgeness. On the sides of black and white . I can't help but wonder how God will judge the judges . I wouldn't want to be in their shoes on judgement day .
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You right about that southerbelle....Just look at the ones who have been slapped on the wrist..And the ones who a judge removed there drug charges off there record for them...
Posted by natchez500 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
well it is the court system in which i am part of, but it is the best system in the world all other countries wish they had a system like we have in the usa sometimes it doesn't work for us like we like, that is one reason i do very little criminal work i hate robbers, murderers and drug pushers too much to help one get out of trouble with a loophole in the law i gripe maybe too much about sanders and johnson, but all in all they are here to do a job and they do it without a lot of people stating they are not right in a decision, that why they are judges most of us in real life will not even call law enforcement and tell them what they know or what they heard. even some lawyers love beating the system at their own cost a example is the murder of jacklyn kelly, even the family will not tell the authorities what happened that night and got a high price lawyer to help them including two local lawyers, but we all know that story sorry for saying it again
Posted by Hambone (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The trial was all just for show from the beginning. Dunn Lampton and the judge in this trial should have to repay the money it cost to have this trial. They knew the statue of limitations was up when they started into this. All this was done to try to shed a positive light on MS and appease black people.
This is our Constitution at work. We have it for a reason.
Lampton and the judge should be fired. No telling what this cost taxpayers.
Posted by redusmfan (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Enough already,
Good Night all...
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That fragile old man is the same age as John McCain that you folks would like to be elected president. So what's age got to do with it now? You do the crime, you do the time. He won't have many chores in prison. But those kids he kidnapped and threw in the river sure didn't get to live the long life that he has gotten to live.
On the other hand, since he has been let off, can't he admit to it now with no consequences?
Freedom is a male? Seems that in many comments we've been led to think of Freedom as a female grandma and a Spartan moma. Must be my reading comprehension.
Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
redusmfan...this is for you since you were trying to make the point, but I don't think it got through.
Mr. Seales was indicted, tried and convicted in FEDERAL court for kidnapping and conspiracy. Federal law has no murder charge nor does it have a death penalty for a murder charge, that is reserved to the States by the Constitution. The feds tried him for the largest crimes they could and I think they knew it wouldn't stick long, but did it anyway.
If Mr. Seales truly repented and confessed to murder then the State of Mississippi would almost certainly have to prosecute. He would almost certainly be convicted and quite likely might get the death penalty or spend the rest of his life in jail...now Christians aren't supposed to commit the mortal sin of suicide are they?...and unrepentant Kluxer's would be just down right stupid to open themselves up to that...which one it is doesn't really matter, the effect is the same. Unless there is additional evidence sufficient for Mississippi to try him for murder he will be set free.
It's one more tragedy added to the ones already gone before in that era...don't let divisivness get us back to that point.
Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Come to think of it, wasn't the conspiracy charge part of a RICO action brought forth by the ACLU to the DOJ?
Posted by BOBCAT1974 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I know if someone was involved in killing one of my loved ones, or knew who done it, or was involved in one way are another, i would want justice.I know it would'nt bring them back, but it would be some kind of finalization on this earth.I think it's a shame weather it was a 100 years ago, yesterday, today, to think it's ok to take a life out of meaness,are because you don't like their color,religion,or they have more money than you do,or whatever reason.There's hatred and meaness in all races not just one.He knew back then what his involvment was and the extent,my opionion he should pay the price!
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on September 10, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Do you think if someone like CERN could come up with a time machine and go back in time, and hit undo on 62, things would be changed when they fast forwarded back to today? Like for example, if President Kennedy hadn't been assasinated, don't you think things would be much different today?
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 12:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Freedom42, you certainly baffle me. Were you the record keeper for the KKK during their reign of terror? If not, then how can you definitivly know how many blacks the klan killed? Did you or someone you know keep records of the incidents? Of course not !! You have the audacity to compare the rate of murders today with the rate of murders commited by the Klan !! The FACT is you, nor I, will ever know the amount of black men hanged, drowned, shot, beheaded, cut open, castrated, burned alive, mamed, beaten, gaged, tortured, kidnapped, or assaulted in any manner by the klan because the people commiting these acts were the people who were supposed to protect black citizens from these acts. Please do not insult me or the black race by referring to the actions of today's black youth with the actions of the klan. Quite frankly sir, madam, or whomever, you only know of black on black crime because that is what your dear sweet Natchez Democrat and other media wish to feed you and just as a hungry dog you open your mouth for more. See, white people commit crimes too!! Instead you all have fancy names for it. For example, white on white murder is often referred to as involuntary manslaughter or neglegent homicide. You see, it is the same as murder only a more sophisticated adjective for the same verb. Stealing for blacks is commonly referred to as robbery or theft. For whites, it is embezzelment or larceny. Same damn thing, prettier words to fit. I will agree that blacks kill far too many blacks. But please, save some of the blame for some of your folks too. Just because we don't hear about it or have to wait 40 years to finally hear an "admission" from born again Klansmen doesn't mean you all don't do your share. God bless you. Have a good evening.
Posted by fire39212 (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 5:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You right natchezlady1 there is no comparison to the kkk and todays black youth killing each other....Glad you made that point...
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am a female, I do read history - not just the Democrat - and murder is murder. I never said anything about kkk being better or worse than black on black or white on white for that matter. I merely mentioned that more blacks have died at the hands of other blacks, including whole villages wiped out in Africa. As there have been whole towns wiped out in Bosnia. Read the world news people. There is more to be concerned about in the world today than the klan ever invisisoned. And yes it is alive today - stirring up more trouble of a different kind. Research, other than utube, is a wonderful thing.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Natchezlady1, you are correct. This situation has nothing to do with how many blacks kill each other, or whites or whatever. Justice needs to be served. If it isn't, so what. It happened 40 years ago. We have lived good lives, and we will again. We forgot about it before, and we will again. When I say "we", I mean all Americans.
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
the only thing that never die's is history,u can't make wrong right, one thought i have is WHY ARE PEOPLE TODAY PUTTING FUEL TO A FIRE THAT NEEDS WATER INSTEAD. JUST A THOUGHT............:)
Posted by ericstratton (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dragonflyday, since you are so concerned about forgetting the past, should we forget about Osama bin Laden on this 9/11 anniversary? Sometimes you need to keep the fuel on the fire, to remember the past.
Posted by southernwoman (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Has Mr. Seales issued a public apology or apologized to the victims' families? If he hasn't it might be a good time to do so.
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
what is it with you ericstratton,are you so blind that there are some people that are sh.. starters like your self, i didn't say forget history , i'm just saying you can't change the past, how is this nation supose to move on and change for the better, if people want to keep fueling the fire then be my guest go on ahead and do so,but you'll be giveing them what they want.i say help heal this nation not keep it down. oh,by the way ericstrat ton i didn't see your thought on here,so why you judgeing me.
Posted by nascarfan20 (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sassygirl - I agree with you!
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dragonflyday
I do agree with you.No we should not forget about our history but we should not keep dragging up all the bad memories of what happened. I have one question to all of you who think this should keep getting brought up. Can you drive your car looking in the rear view mirror? I can't and I don't think anyone else can either. The point is you can't go forward if you are always looking back. It sickens me that our goverment can spend all this money on cold case files and they are broke when it comes to taking care of our old people and children.
Posted by ericstratton (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dragon: Um, thanks I know you you can't change the past but society can't(or should'nt be able to) pick and choose who goes free and who does'nt based on emotion. If he is guilty and the statute of limitations has run up on him let him go if not send him back to jail.I know that if my family member had been murdered and the murderer set free by his chronies I would push for justice til the day I died,take your hood off and keep seeing things black vs white but right vs wrong
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
AMEN SASSYGIRL WELL SAID.ERICSTRATTON, I KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO HAVE A LOVES ONE TAKEN FROM YOU AND NO ONE WILL OR WANTS TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO YOU NEED AGAIN TO STOP JUDGEING PEOPLE WHO SEE DIFFERENT THAN YOU. BY THE WAY I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW,THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW.
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
OH , SASSYGIRL, I THINK THE REASON WHY THE GOVERMENT HAVE COLD CASES IS FOR THE OLD INVEST. TO HAVE A JOB LOL.. BUT REALLY THEY COULD SPEND THE MONEYS BETTER ON CASES WE HAVE NOW,BUT DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH...
Posted by ericstratton (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
dragon-give me a call
Posted by sammohon (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ericstratton...let me compliment you on your courage for stating your views with your real name associated...it is quite refreshing for someone else to decide not to hide behind anonymous monikers.
Posted by getalifenatchez (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dragonflyday: I have to agree with Ericstratton---its quite obviously a white/black thing with you. If I lost a love one---i don't care if it was 40, 60,or even 80 years ago, I would still press to see justice served.... I know this is a controversial topic, and everyone is going to have a different opinion....... You and Eric, however need to cool the back and forth insults....
Posted by fccitizen (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Its sad that people like james seale and charles edwards are able to walk to streets free for so many years and pretend to be the good neighbor. What a joke. The true people of FC know that james seale got what he deserved and Charles Edwards will get his sooner or later.... He ratted out James to keep himself out of jail they need to throw him and his entire racist family in jail...... They all need the lord in their life. It is sad how many people will never see the gates of heaven just because they hate someone because of the color of their skin. We are all Gods children ALL of us. He said he loves ALL of us as if There was only ONE of US. But maybe it was overturned...My God said "Vengence Is Mine" ......
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 11, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
freedom42, You seem to be the official record keeper for black on black crimes and the KKK. You DO NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL COUNT OF BLACKS MURDERED EITHER BY OTHER BLACKS OR THE KLAN! The only way you can make the comparison, dear, is to obtain a figure for the killings of one group and then compare that number to the numbers of murders commited by the other.These are, however, figures in which you do not have. Forgive my arrogance, but my education extends far beyond The Natchez Democrat and certainly beyond Youtube. I am educated enough to know that there is NO comparable number for either slayings. Yet, I am not so nieve as to assume that one group has killed more than the other. I believe in FACTUAL data. This means researched, analyzed, and provable results. Quick question, do you have a number on how many NATIVE Americans whites killed? Or possibly a ballpark figure on those mutalated by Hitler? Tell you what, research that and get back to me!
Posted by dragonflyday (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
getalifenatchez,ericstratton- i'm not black vs white,nor have i ever been.eric you seem to have a problem with me for what ever reason that maybe. let me inlighten yaw to on some things first i don't believe in slavery or the kkk. secondly yaw seem to think it's okay for yaw to say how yaw feel on matters,but lord and behold if someone else doesn't see it yaws way. if i was a black vs white type person i would judge a book by it's cover,people these days have to much book smarts but not enough common sence. yaw to should be the poster people for that one,cause it shows. ericstratton,by the way you and getalife would make a dorn good couple maybe yaw should hook up,best of luck...
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey, I'm not the one who originally brought this up, I did not defend the kkk or any other hate group, and I am certainly not racist. You natchezlady are the one who wants to keep on aggitating - so go right ahead, by yourself. I won't argue with stupidity.
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Everyone can talk until your blue in the face and most of us will have our own opinion. I have read a lot of you talk about justice.He may not get the justice everybody is wanting him to get behind bars but I can assure you unitl this man dies he will suffer. Cancer does not discriminate and it's a very painful death. everything in life happens for a reason,whatever the situation maybe.There are just somethings in life we can't change and never will be able to change it,so we deal with it the best way we know how. Everyone who has made a comment on this page why don't you sit down and say a prayer for this man,and all the familes involved and I can assure you PRAYER WORKS.
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
freedom42, I do not wish to argue. But my point to you is do not make statements that you cannot defend. There is no need to become defensive. You seem to have a ball arguing with numerous others on other topics but you back away from people who put you on the spot. Typical. Anyhow, since you know that you opened a door that you couldn't close, I would advise that in the future when you decide to make statements regarding any topic, be sure you have your information and facts straight. That is not stupidity, this is what educated people do. God bless you.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Actually it is your attitude of attack on me that I was calling stupid. The first statement was made by redusmfan:
The klan did not kill as many young black males in their whole history as have young black males killed each other in the last 15 years. Black on black crime in America kills more kids in one year than the klan would have ever dreamed about. All the klan would have to do today is turn on the evening news and watch and react...
Just something for you to think about for a while today.
My reply to him:
Red, you are correct. Also think of the genocide going on in Africa everyday! Africans murdering whole villages, children and all, simply for being in a different tribe. Talk about hatred, look there
Now why does everybody want to jump on me? I have not agitated or spoken ill of anyone. As far as Native Americans, they fought each other to, and there are no records showing how many were killed by other tribes or by those trying to take over the lands and move west. Nor would I guess there are records of how many black tribes have been totally wiped out by other tribes. If I have something to say, I will stand my ground. IF you really think you know me, you know I am not ashamed of anything I write or think. If I am proven wrong I will admit it. Read the WHOLE blog and then make your comments - bring it on.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
http:/White KKK vs. Black KKK (kudos to Jason Whitlock)
5 December, 2007 | Kipita
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:42:54 AM by kipita
From 1866 to 1965, less than 6,000 black Americans were lynched in America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in...
In currently times, the approximate number of blacks and whites killed by “black on black” and “white on white” crimes is equal to about the same number.
Blacks = 6,000 per year; Whites = 6,000 per year
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/ra...
Therefore, about 5,000 black Americans are killed each year due to failures in black America.
The questions becomes, “who’s responsible???”.
/www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1934937/posts
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
But Kenya's violence, which has left more than 300 people dead, has crossed an invisible line. For the first time, Kenyan newspapers are raising the example of Rwanda, where about 800,000 people died in tribal killings in 1994.
This week's atrocities, dubbed by the Government as "ethnic cleansing" of Kikuyu, are unexpected and deeply shocking to Kenyans. "We didn't think that they could burn them in the church. It is a terrible thing. I've never heard of that thing before," Mwangi said. "They did something which we can't imagine."
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/out-of-...
According to the HRC statistics, 21,000 people died in political violence in South Africa during apartheid - of whom 14,000 people died during the six-year transition process from 1990 to 1994. The book lists the number of incidents, dates, and those involved.
This includes SA Defence Force actions, for instance the 600 deaths at Kassinga in Angola during the war in 1978.
Of those deaths, the vast majority, 92%, have been primarily due to Africans killing Africans -- such as the inter-tribal battles for territory: this book's detailed analyses of the period June 1990 to July 1993 indicates a total of 8580 (92%) of the 9,325 violent deaths during the period June 1990 to July 1993 were caused by Africans killing Africans, or as the news media often calls it, "Black on Black" violence - hostel killings, Inkatha Freedom Party versus ANC killlings, and taxi and turf war violence.http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/321.htm
Enough, or want more?
Posted by Peace007 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
posted by the cat in the hat, "If Mr. Seales truly repented and confessed to murder then the State of Mississippi would almost certainly have to prosecute. He would almost certainly be convicted and quite likely might get the death penalty or spend the rest of his life in jail...now Christians aren't supposed to commit the mortal sin of suicide are they?...and unrepentant Kluxer's would be just down right stupid to open themselves up to that...which one it is doesn't really matter, the effect is the same. Unless there is additional evidence sufficient for Mississippi to try him for murder he will be set free."
How is being prosecuted and going to jail committing suicide? Even prisoners on death row, most often, get to live there for 20 or more years. You are thinking more like an attorney than as a repentant Christian. When I made the above statement that James Seales should tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and confess to the crime "if he is guilty"...he should do it for his own salvation before he dies. The same thing applies to anyone guilty of murder. Our days on earth are very limited as compared to God's vengeance.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Native Americans killed in service for the United States and killed defending their Indian country is listed below in rough estimated numbers. A likely total of 100,000-500,000 Native Americans in the U.S. have died since 1776. The high end would be around a million. Native Americans are the have the highest mortality rate of any U.S. minority because of U.S. action and policy.
Indians Conflicts & Removals 1776-1973
(1973) Wounded Knee II - 2
(1890) Wounded Knee - 178
(1864) Sand Creek Massacre - 200
(1862) Dakota War of 1862 - 38 prisoners executed
(1876) Battle of Little Big Horn - 136 (high estimate)
(1838) Cherokee Removal - 4,000
(1817-58) Seminole Wars I,II, & III - 1475 (likely high as 10,000)
(1831) Choctaw Removal - 2,500
(1812) Red Stick War of the Muscogee or Creek- 3,000
(1791) Battle of the Wabash - 21
Statistics on Native Americans killed by civilians is unavailable.http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_Native_Americans_were_killed_by_the_US_government
I don't usually use wiki but I will continue to search for mind fodder for you.
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When I read the headline for this article it stated " Reputed Klansman's cold-case conviction overturned" Nothing that i read in the article had anything to do with Africa. I think if you want to talk about what goes on in AFRICA Oprah would be glad to have you on her show.Get back to the actual topic here.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry sassy, when I get questioned about my actions I have to reply. However, you are right, and Mr. Seals should stay behind bars. However, the law is the law for everyone, and the reasons he was released is in the original article.
Posted by drawpaintsing (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What the XXXX does all of this has to do with what happened 40 years ago? You all need to grow the Hell up. People like you all are also one reason why things won't change. If a white man killed one of my family members, I would want the same justice, as if a black man did it. Get over it. If this man killed those boys, then he should be punished. If he did it, and for some reason the laws and courts won't convict him, then so be it. What can all of you do about it? I guess keep arguing over why blacks are killing each other and why whites did in the past, will make you all feel better. All of this arguing and fact finding won't solve $H!+! My goodness people, the Klan killed and black on black violence is a growing epidemic. When it all boils down to it, lives have been lost, in a sensless matter.
Posted by sassygirl (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
Freedom42 no need to apolize I understand you replying to a comment. I just about fell out of my chair when I read your comment cause I'm like dang you doing your homework. The law may have failed those boys 40 yrs ago but it's nothing we can do about that now. By the law now James Seale really should have never been put in jail in 2007 because of the statue of limiations for kiddnapping,and conspiracy ran out long ago. I just can't see how our state didn't know that before hand. Now we have spent all this money on the case and he is getting out so what good did it ever do to put him in there besides paying for his medical bills. I think there should be justice for anyone who breaks the law of the land,but folks the man that testied aganist him how do we know he is not telling a lie to keep his name clear. I'm willing to bet he told several white lies to keep himself out of trouble.
Posted by noneya (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As I said in another article, I'm sure glad I'm not Charles Marcus Edwards!
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
freedom42, Congratulations on going to internet websites and finding information on the amount of Africans killed and Indians killed in battle. Two things: Firstly, any historian will tell you that information obtained from any internet site (unless there are publications to assist) is not considered or recognized as a valid research source (i.e. wikipedia) As a matter of fact, that site is prohibited as a source in most college bound papers or thesis, but use what you can. Secondly, I do believe my question pertained to Hitler and early american history (roughly 1096-1500) regarding the numbers of Native Americans slain by the "European" settlers. I have yet to see an answer to these. PLEASE for one minute DO NOT assume that you will make me tuck my tail and run. I DON'T DO THAT !! Now, since you want to play research guru, there is your new assignment.
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Also, to every other blogger on the post, I wish to extend my apologies if this back and forth between freedom42 and I have prohibited you from expressing or reading other points of views. Anyone who pays attentions knows that there are very few issues I blog on because I cannot begin to comprehend some of the down right ignorance plauging our community. Nonetheless, I do believe that I have fallen victim to such nonsense and engaged in a battle of wits that is by far a pure waste of my time. However, if I have posted anything that seemed hurtful by any means, I do apologize, for that was never my intention. I post things to make people understand that nothing is ever any one race or one ethnicities fault. WE ARE ALL HUMAN. EVERYONE IN EVERY RACE has said or done horrible thing to another. Unfortunately, until the end of time it will be that way.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Since I can't get to the library to do any research today, this will just have to wait. And since I AM a college graduate and have written a number of papers I am familar with the protocol. However you have not answered my question of why are you picking on me? I was not the first to bring this up, and therefore I don't feel any responsibility to carry it further. I have no intention of tucking my tail and running either - but in the interest of others - I call it off. This is totally pointless.
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
freedom42, In all do fairness, I was not intending to pick on you. When you mentioned the comments made by others, I honestly did not see them. Maybe I was skimming across the comments and totally missed the others. And for that occurance, I apologize. I do not mean to attack you personally, I don't even know you. I was offended by the black on black crime comment because there is no number indication of the numerous things the klan has done to blacks. And more personably, I have had great-uncles that were kidnapped and never seen again. I have heard some of the older people (now dead) when I was little talk of what they went through and how they were assaulted and harrassed by the klan in their younger days. So forgive me for unleashing at you but this matter is close to home. No one should be killing no one. I wish it were that way but it is not.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You know you sound a lot like someone called ijohnson who used to post on here. I accept your apology, but I will not play your little mind games again. I agree you don't know me.
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i am not ijohnson, freedom42, my log name is natchezlady1. I don't play mind games either. I am a grown woman, I don't have time for any games. Furthermore, would it have been so hard to simply say I accept your apology rather than throw sarcastic remarks in. Quite frankly, freedom42, with all do respect, I am rather glad that I do not know you.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Me to. BTW the word you are looking for is due not do.
Posted by freedom42 (anonymous) on September 12, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
oops that should have been "too" as in also.
Posted by natchezlady1 (anonymous) on September 13, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You know, I learned something from all of this back and forth between you and I. I learned that there are some people in this world that evoke such strong emotion that you really have to pause and wonder: Is this person really worth the energy that is wasted on them? I entertained hating an entire race of people because of you. However, prior experiences with some really good people of your race have prevented me from doing so. If I decide to hate a whole race over people like you, then I become no better than Seale and his bunch which is what I despise in the first place. So hats off to you!! You should be so proud that your ignorance has paid off in a positive way. God bless you. This is the last time I am checking this blog. Please bless others with your venom. I have been poisioned enough.
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